Actually many babies were killed coroners records, town records, quaker minutes, poor house records, the world is unfortunately the same, there are just more of us. Michelle-----Original Message----- From: Wilma <gencon@harborside.com> To: OHKNOX-L@rootsweb.com <OHKNOX-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 12:41 AM Subject: so sad.........Orphan Trains 1850-1929 Thank you for sending this to the list..... makes me cry... no room for two little boys...Guess people didn't have a feeling for siblings and keeping everyone together.. perhaps money and place for them was the reason, but to send two little boys out on a train by them selves ....... so sad. Yet today we find babies in trash bins, garbage pails, bath rooms, so perhaps things aren't so much different...today. At least they didn't murder their babies. [that we know of] I am surprised to see that it was happening as late as 1929! Wonder what made them stop it? Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com ==== OHKNOX Mailing List ==== Listowner Email is 73777.25@compuserve.com or MaggieOhio@columbus.rr.com To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHKNOX for the list name.

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=302 Surname: ------------------------- Researching Ewarts who settled in Knox Co. Family buried in Owl Creek Cemetery.

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=301 Surname: KERR, ARBUCKLE ------------------------- Hello, I cannot say for sure, but I wouldn't rule it out. If I went to Mt. Vernon library,which would be a good reference for your family? If I read the entire biography,I might get a better idea. Here is what I have: My g-g-g-g-grandfather,James Kerr, came from NIR to the Tuscarora Valley of PA. in 1770.It was cumberland co. then. This area is Franklin/Mifflin/Juniata/Perry etc. today. Three years later,John Kerr comes to same community. James m.___? and has one child,(that I know of)James,b, Franklin Co.,PA. He marries and comes to Knox co. -1810 with in-laws, cousins?,etc. They bought property in Clay TWP.Name Kerr is like Smith in Scotland.

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=300 Surname: Kerr ------------------------- W.S. Kerr's grandfather was John Kerr who was one of the settlers of Knox Co. in 1807 by plotting Fredericktown. Supposedly W.S. Kerr's father Benjamin was born in Franklin Co. in 1800 and went with his parents, John and Sarah to the(now)Fredericktown area in 1803. There was apparently another John Kerr about 10 years younger than our John Kerr who was a prominent settler in Franklin County. Not our line as far as I can tell. Does this fit with any information you have?

Jim, If you are talking a telephone listing for the cemetery, no, I am sorry to say. If you don't find anything out, let me know, I can give you some names of people that might be on the town council or the trustees. Sue Jim Humphrey wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a listing for the Brinkhaven Cemetery? > > Thanks > > Jimm > > ==== OHKNOX Mailing List ==== > This list will also be my way to contact you directly with any updates, changes, and other news about this page. > To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHKNOX for the list name. -- Sue Snodgrass "Genealogy is my habit" Addresses: ssnodgrass@millenicom.com or suesnodgr@iname.com or suesfamily@virtualave.net Web Page: http://suesfamily.virtualave.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1st Seven Generations: Ashbaugh * Bauscher * Carr * Church * Cornell * Cly * Close * Conner * Critchfield * DeVore * Dillon * Eley * Engelhardt * Fesler * Hermann * Hoyman * Humphrey * Johns(t)on/Johnstone * Korns * Lux * Minger * Monroe/Munro * Remington * Reed * Severns * Shultzmann * Storck * Swartz ** Uhl * Warner * Wolfe * Workman * Zilles

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=298 Surname: KERR, ARBUCKLE ------------------------- Where did your family live in Knox Co.? There where several Kerr. Patti families in Knox co., but only 3-4 in early 1800's

Thank you for sending this to the list..... makes me cry... no room for two little boys...Guess people didn't have a feeling for siblings and keeping everyone together.. perhaps money and place for them was the reason, but to send two little boys out on a train by them selves ....... so sad. Yet today we find babies in trash bins, garbage pails, bath rooms, so perhaps things aren't so much different...today. At least they didn't murder their babies. [that we know of] I am surprised to see that it was happening as late as 1929! Wonder what made them stop it? Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com

When we think it is hard to trace our family trees , here is something to think about! ----------- Survivors Remember Orphan Trains By ROBERT WELLER .c The Associated Press LAKEWOOD, Colo. (April 29) - It is one of the least-remembered of America's migrations to the West: as many as 350,000 orphan children shipped out of New York on ''Orphan Trains'' from the 1850s to 1929. The trains stopped in rural areas so that prospective parents could look over the youngsters and decide whether to take in any of them. The process wasn't always successful, recalled Dorothy Sharpley, 81, one of six Orphan Train ''riders'' who attended a reunion Saturday in Colorado. Sharpley said she was rejected by her first adoptive family, in Columbus, Neb. ''I was sent back to New York only to ride the train again and end up in St. Mary's, Neb., only 20 miles from Columbus.'' The trains were the idea of Methodist minister Charles Loring Brace, founder of the Children's Aid Society of New York, intended as a means of moving children out of the alleys and squalor of a city overrun by immigrants and the industrial revolution, out to the West and wholesome farm family life. ''It was a major event in migration to the West, where life revolved around the railroad,'' said Tom Noel, a University of Colorado historian. For Sharpley, life before the Orphan Train meant having to beg for food in an orphanage with 600 children. Janet Liebl, author of ''Ties That Bind, the Orphan Train Story in Minnesota,'' said her research indicates the number of orphans who rode the trains is about the same as the number of slaves brought into the United States. ''We don't hear about these people because they were assimilated,'' said Liebl. Less than 1,000 of the ''riders'' are estimated to be still alive. The Orphan Train was a sweet second chance for many, a Dickensian nightmare for others. ''We'd stop in these little towns and get out of the trains and they'd interview us. It was kind of like a cattle auction. If they liked us they'd take us,'' said Stanley Cornell, who joined Sharpley at Saturday's reunion. Cornell, then 6, rode the train twice with his brother, Victor, who was 5. Their mother died when their sister, Eloise, was born, and their father, a victim of a German gas attack in World War I, was unable to care for them. Another sister took Eloise, but didn't have room for Stanley and Victor. On their first trip they were taken in by a family in Coffeyville, Kan. ''They were kind and we liked them, but after a couple of months they sent us back. I still don't know why. Maybe their other kids didn't like us,'' said Cornell, now 80. On their second trip, they met a Wellington, Texas, man with two daughters who had wanted a son. ''He only wanted one boy, but he took us both,'' Cornell recalls. His only question ''was whether we liked farms and animals,'' and when they passed that test, he gave them a bag of jelly beans. Liebl said the nuns of New York's Foundling Hospital were finding up to 1,000 abandoned babies on their doorstep every year in the 1870s. The nuns and Brace's group were the main groups sending orphans on the trains. Brace's faith in farmers didn't always pan out for the children. In some cases orphans were treated as indentured workers, and were sent away once the harvest was finished. ''My mother loved me but all my father cared about was how much farm work I could do,'' said Sharpley. The orphans were told to never try to find out who their parents were, and their adoptive parents signed an agreement not to divulge the information. ''I'm still trying to find out who my real parents are. But the Foundling Hospital tells me the records are all burned,'' said Sharpley. Cornell got unexpected assistance finding his family. While serving in the Army during World War II, he sent a telegram to J. Edgar Hoover asking for help. The FBI director replied within 10 days, telling him where his father lived.

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=297 Surname: ------------------------- I have the Worthy Fair that you seek in my genealogy, but I have no dates or locations for her. I wish I could be more help. I am adding a link that might help you. It is a Fair family web page. I have not looked further into Worthy as she is not a direct ancestor. I wish you good luck in your search. I would be very interested in the Fair information you have if you would be willing to share. Worthy was married to Curtis Ludwig and had 3 children. Lewis, Georgia, and Hazel. She was also married to George Smith. Georgia was married to Charles Miller, and Hazel was married to Stanley Dauber. Link: Fair family genealogy URL: <http://ddi.digital.net/~bfair/index.html>

Does anyone know where I can go to find wills from 1850's in Knox County? If it is the Courthouse, what are there hours and do they let you look up the records or do they? Thanks, Pam Researching: HESS, KNIGHT, BOYLE, HUNT

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=296 Surname: Coffield, Furbee, Yoho ------------------------- I am searching the lineage of the Coffields who might have lived in Knox County Ohio. Massie Furbee married George Henry Coffield. They had a son named Joseph L., and a daughter named Dessie M.

Does anyone know if there is a listing for the Brinkhaven Cemetery? Thanks Jimm

MaizeI am trying to determine the location of Dennis Cemetery; according to several maps on the Internet, it appears to be located at or near where Routes 18 and 74 meet. Can anyone confirm this for me? My grandmother's parents, Lewis SCOTT and Melvia (Wharton) SCOTT are buried there, as are a handful of other relatives; she would like to travel up there (from Cincinnati/Dayton area) and stop at the cemetery. From the maps, it appears that from Mount Vernon we could take Route 229 (New Castle Road) to Esto Road, which would intersect with Route 18 and lead us to the cemetery. Is this correct? In advance, thanks for any information that can be provided. Regards, Mary Carroll, Springfield VA maryecarroll@prodigy.net

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=295 Surname: SMITH ------------------------- Searching for the parents of Amanda Elizabeth SMITH born in Mt. Vernon, Knox County in 1845, married to Francis Alonzo Terpening born in 1849 (IN). Respond to lterpening@aol.com

I have a guardianship for the children of Nathaniel Smith, Clay twp, Knox Co. One of the guardians was a JAMES ELLIOT. This is dated 1832. Mary

Hi, saw your interest in ELLIOTT. There was a John VIAN who married a Lulu ELLIOTT in Coshocton Co...maybe in the 1880's...would you know anything about them? Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeanne &. Lane <GmaLane@msn.com> To: <OHKNOX-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 4:08 PM Subject: Dudgeon - Elliot > Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=292 > > Surname: DUDGEON, ELLIOTT > ------------------------- > > Nancy ELLIOTT was the eldest daughter of Charles ELLIOTT and Jane LEE, > born in Ireland and moved, first to Washington Co., PA and then to Knox > Co., OH. She is the older sister of my GG Grandfather, Andrew ELLIOTT. > Email me if you would like more information. I have quite a lot of family > history. Jeanne > > ______________________________

This is a wild shot. Would you happen to be the Richard A. Miller whose Dad was a Baptist minister in Divernon, IL in the 1950's?? We've been trying to reach him for several years. Wayne Earleywine "Richard A.Miller" wrote: > Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries > Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=294 > > Surname: Elliott > ------------------------- > > i just left Knox County,Harrison Twp there is a grove Cementary there that > has a lot of Elliott's in it you might try Knox's county on Ohgenweb.com > i think ill have to send you the url > > ==== OHKNOX Mailing List ==== > This list will also be my way to contact you directly with any updates, changes, and other news about this page. > To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter OHKNOX for the list name.

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=294 Surname: Elliott ------------------------- i just left Knox County,Harrison Twp there is a grove Cementary there that has a lot of Elliott's in it you might try Knox's county on Ohgenweb.com i think ill have to send you the url

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=293 Surname: Dudgeon, Elliott ------------------------- Yes, by all means email me the gedcom file atr above email address please it fits

Posted on: Knox Co. Oh Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Oh/Knox?read=292 Surname: DUDGEON, ELLIOTT ------------------------- Nancy ELLIOTT was the eldest daughter of Charles ELLIOTT and Jane LEE, born in Ireland and moved, first to Washington Co., PA and then to Knox Co., OH. She is the older sister of my GG Grandfather, Andrew ELLIOTT. Email me if you would like more information. I have quite a lot of family history. Jeanne