Kathlena, thank you ever so much. I was able to pick up some middle initials, for several of them. I had most of the dates, but some with just a year. We were doing find until I reached the Drumm`s. I had Mahala J Kail married to Charles Drumm. And I also had a child of theirs as Emma L Drumm, born 1869. I wonder if Karl Drumm and Charles are the same person ? Anyway, let me give you another one. I have several Harper`s that married into the Kail family. The main one was Daniel Harper and Hannah Kail on Oct. 18, 1857. They are my great great grand parents. I have not been able to find anything on Daniel`s family before he married. Thank you, Dale