Bobbie, I have transcribed Knox Township from Doyle's book and it is on my web site. http://www.learningdesign.com/family/ You can use your browser's *find* feature to search the page for Thompson. I don't have all the counties done yet but Knox is there. Janice

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I read that your John W. Thompson was from County Tyrone, Ireland. What year did he come over? I have a ancestor who also came over from County Tyrone, Ireland. His name was William Ager and he came over in 1811. The line eventually settled in Jefferson County, Ohio? I was just wondering if you were able to get any information on the trip over from County Tyrone, ship lists or anything else. Or if you were able to find information like census of County Tyrone or anything like that. I am currently stumped. All I know is that he came over in 1811 and He and his father, James, lived in County Tyrone, Ireland before that. I would appreciate any help. Thanks in advance. Becky Thornton MrsBigOtis@AOL.com

Geez, going through different paperwork - one thing lists Ellen A. NOMTZ another Elle A. WANTY. Another lists the mother's married name as Angeline MANLEY. Any of these names ring a bell with anyone? Redddogg1@aol.com

I have a photocopy of a typed page from the Will Book. The edge didn't copy so I'm not sure. I'm looking for information on the grand daughters of Adam C. STEWART of Richmond, Jefferson Co., OH. Their names look to be: Ellen A. NOMTZ and Eliza A. DIXON. Eliza may or may not be his grand daughter. Anyone heard of the name NOMTZ? Or researching either? Thanks in advance. KB

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CB3EFB3E084828E82E7C22F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another good source to find birth records, or at least a date of birth is school records. I had to do this a few years ago for my mother when she had to have her birth certificate, and I couldn't locate it. I wrote to Columbus, Oh first, and they didn't have a record of it, so they suggested I call the county Superintendents Office for any proof of birth, and that is where it was found. Barb --------------CB3EFB3E084828E82E7C22F3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27] by 1st.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id ABDA16A10264; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:30:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06282; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:26:00 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:26:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36F7EB6B.6CC8@cecomet.net> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:28:43 -0500 From: Ed Durbin <durbin@cecomet.net> Reply-To: durbin@cecomet.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Birth Certificates References: <ddff5fa3.36f6932d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"RbxgUB.A.whB.Hr-92"@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2036 X-Loop: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Errors-To: OHJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Sender: OHJEFFER-L-request@rootsweb.com X-RCPT-TO: <carpet@1st.net> This is a good suggestion concerning gathering information about births, etc. Don't forget to check with churches. Often the records are in good shape, but sometimes, like county records, etc., floods and fires have destroyed some. I have frequently known people who couldn't find a birth record for themselves being able to verify their birth through church records. I've issued many copies of baptismal records which are generally acceptable as proof of birth and are accepted by Social Security and other agencies requiring proof of birth. Also, many ministers keep records of people whom they have baptized, married and buried. I always tried to include "maiden names", names of parents, and other such details that might be useful to someone later in life. In later years, I have made it a practice to issue a more than one "original" signed and witnessed copies of baptismal and marriage certificates just in case they might lose one. Sometimes a copy given to "godparents" or "witnesses" of sacred rites assure that the "original" will be found by one of them should another original be lost. One thing that presents a difficulty in finding ministerial records of births, marriages and deaths is that no central depository exists other than a local church or within the minister/priest's family. Sometimes, I fear, they get tossed out when the family member who kept them is gone. I would suggest that these important records be donated to genealogical societies. Does the Schiappa library in Steubenville have any? Could they initiate a program asking the donations of such volumes or files? Ed Durbin Ezeebones@aol.com wrote: > > hi,I am only aware of having certs those yrs. have u tried church records or > baptism? > > ==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Searching for a "lost" place?? Visit --------------CB3EFB3E084828E82E7C22F3--

Helen, I do know that John Thompson's father was John W. Thompson and they both came from County Tyrone, Ireland. A few years ago, Reva Ashcroft looked that up for us. She was excellent. She also found another John Thompson married to a Harriet that had a son with the same name as our John and Marie Ross - Moore Hamilton Thompson. But our Moore left Pa and married Ann Boston in Iowa. That made me wonder if earlier there was a connection between those two families. Was confusing to me so I asked her to stop the seach while I tried to figure out what to do. I never did get the documentation of John W. Thompson from County Tyrone. Guess I should write to her and ask her how she found that, since relatives are asking me how do I know it was County Tyrone. Hope fully this will help. Maybe if we found a church they went to. Thanks, Bobbie >From: plearned@funtv.com >Reply-To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: History of Jefferson County, Ohio >Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 18:38:24 -0800 > >unsubscribe > >Helen Weals wrote: > >> Bobbie - >> >> There are lots and lots of Thompsons in Doyle's history and in the Tombstone >> book, but I see nothing that relates directly to your names. Do you know >> anything of the parents or other relatives? >> >> Helen >> >> Hello Helen, I am wondering how to find out what happened to our John >> Thompson Family after the 28 Aug.1850 Census, Cross Creek Twp. Jefferson >> Co. OH. They were all in it, but haven't been able to get the 1860 >> census. They were dwelling number 1368, family no.1429, page 191. They >> were listed as John age 45, wife Marie age 42, son, John age 20, Matthew >> age18,Mary Jane 17,Moore 11,Nancy 9, Margaret 7, Richard 5, Caroline 4 >> and Thomas 1. Is the 1860 census on line? Sure would love to find >> them. Bobbie > > >==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== >Reminder: Please do not send mail to the list using HTML or RTF >If you aren't sure, visit >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

HI John, Was interested in your Sugar Grove M.E. Church. Could you please look up to see if a John Thompson or John W. Thompson was on the member list? He had a wife, Maria Ross, who may be on the list. Thank you. Bobbie >From: John Sapp <sappjohn@erols.com> >Reply-To: sappjohn@erols.com >To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Sugar Grove M. E. Church >Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:09:52 -0500 > >Joseph B. Doyle's 1910 "The History of Steubenville and Jefferson County >Ohio" contains a reference to a Sugar Grove M. E. Church in Knox Twp >located "...very near the Saline Township line, four miles below the >mouth of Yellow Creek, and two miles from Empire." The Jefferson Co >Genweb shows a Sugar Grove Cemetery and mentions a new Sugar Grove >Methodist Church. Can anyone tell me if these two churches and the >cemetery are one and the same or otherwise related? > >The history goes on to give a list of names, including a John Sapp, who >were in the first class (sometime between 1800 and 1802. Would class in >this context refer to congregation or would this church also served as a >school? If the churches are related, would the "new" church have records >going back to the founding of the original church? > >Thanks for any help. >John Sapp >sappjohn@erols.com > > >==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== >The Bicentennial for the state of OHIO is coming soon. If interested >in helping or just interested, visit http://www.ohio200.com > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Just dropping a note to those who live nearby... Schaippa Library has just received copy of entire 1870 Census of Ohio...it includes Sex, Age, Place of Birth of everyone listed. It is in Six Volumes....For those newbies.. some counties had 1870 completed, but for some reason 1870 for whole state wasn't done...till Now. I was told it is on CD also...

Joseph B. Doyle's 1910 "The History of Steubenville and Jefferson County Ohio" contains a reference to a Sugar Grove M. E. Church in Knox Twp located "...very near the Saline Township line, four miles below the mouth of Yellow Creek, and two miles from Empire." The Jefferson Co Genweb shows a Sugar Grove Cemetery and mentions a new Sugar Grove Methodist Church. Can anyone tell me if these two churches and the cemetery are one and the same or otherwise related? The history goes on to give a list of names, including a John Sapp, who were in the first class (sometime between 1800 and 1802. Would class in this context refer to congregation or would this church also served as a school? If the churches are related, would the "new" church have records going back to the founding of the original church? Thanks for any help. John Sapp sappjohn@erols.com

This is a good suggestion concerning gathering information about births, etc. Don't forget to check with churches. Often the records are in good shape, but sometimes, like county records, etc., floods and fires have destroyed some. I have frequently known people who couldn't find a birth record for themselves being able to verify their birth through church records. I've issued many copies of baptismal records which are generally acceptable as proof of birth and are accepted by Social Security and other agencies requiring proof of birth. Also, many ministers keep records of people whom they have baptized, married and buried. I always tried to include "maiden names", names of parents, and other such details that might be useful to someone later in life. In later years, I have made it a practice to issue a more than one "original" signed and witnessed copies of baptismal and marriage certificates just in case they might lose one. Sometimes a copy given to "godparents" or "witnesses" of sacred rites assure that the "original" will be found by one of them should another original be lost. One thing that presents a difficulty in finding ministerial records of births, marriages and deaths is that no central depository exists other than a local church or within the minister/priest's family. Sometimes, I fear, they get tossed out when the family member who kept them is gone. I would suggest that these important records be donated to genealogical societies. Does the Schiappa library in Steubenville have any? Could they initiate a program asking the donations of such volumes or files? Ed Durbin Ezeebones@aol.com wrote: > > hi,I am only aware of having certs those yrs. have u tried church records or > baptism? > > ==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== > Searching for a "lost" place?? Visit

Hi, I don't usually "advertise" personal sites but Janice Donley just notified me that she has her personal site on-line. I went and checked it out and was impressed with the amount of Jefferson Co. history that can be found at the site. There are early photos, newspaper articles and stories of early settlers. I will be going back when I have more time to spend!! If you are interested in early Jefferson Co, this is a nice site to visit!! The URL is: http://www.learningdesign.com/family/ Terri -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Researching HUBBARD,LANAGHAN,JAMES,MENZEL,HAMROCK,GEARY, My Family Tree http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1261/family/myfamily.htm Jefferson Co. OH. USGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/heartland/1261 Jefferson CO. OH. OGS site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/

Hello, Many pioneers from the Ohio Valley joined the California Gold Rush. You can view some articles abstracted from the Steubenville papers and submitted by Sandy Day at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/GoldRush.htm This abstract is one of many articles included in our quarterly newsletters for members. Hoping you find a long-lost ancestor. Jefferson County Chapter, OGS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs Julia A. Krutilla fkrutill@weir.net

hi,I am only aware of having certs those yrs. have u tried church records or baptism?