-----FORWARDED MESSAGE----- SEND REPLIES TO ALLEN RICHMOND AT SCIOTTRAILS@USA.NET Ok, folks - do we have anyone who has an interest in adopting Montgomery County OHGenWeb? I've posted the adoption notice at the state site [http://www.scioto.org/OHGenWeb/adoption.html], and will start sending out "feelers" to the misc. lists. If you, or someone you know, has an interest, zap a note this way and we'll help make the transfer a smooth one. Help spread the word, if you will, so we can have OHGenWeb back at 100% efficiency so our researchers and visitors can find those elusive ancestors and the connections to others in the hunt. Thanks! Allen -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Researching HUBBARD,LANAGHAN,JAMES,MENZEL,HAMROCK,GEARY, My Family Tree http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1261/family/myfamily.htm Jefferson Co. OH. USGenWeb http://www.geocities.com/heartland/1261 Jefferson CO. OH. OGS site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/

John R. Cassil is my GGGG Grandfather. Name: John R. Cassil[85],[161] --------------------------------------------- Born: 15 Jul 1802 VA or eastern KY[82],[161],[75],[363] Married: 15 Apr 1824 Jefferson Co., OH[161] Census: 1830 Jefferson Co., OH[184] Resided: 1834 Jefferson Co., OH[161] Resided: 1837 Carrol Co., OH[161] Census: 1840 Williams Co., OH[87] Voter List: 1845 Defiance Co., OH[351] Resided: 1845 Buchannan Co., MO[161] Deed (Deed): 16 Feb 1849 Williams Co., OH[216] Resided: 1850 60 miles south of Saint Joseph, MO[161] Deed (Deed): 31 Jan 1853 Williams Co., OH[215] Civil Action: 24 Oct 1853 Williams Co., OH[217] Resided: 1854 Atchison Co., KS[161] Census: 1855 Kansas[79] Left Home: 15 Apr 1859 Atchison Co., KS[363] Died: aft 15 Apr 1859 Kansas[453] Occupation: contractor, builder, cabinet maker, millwrighting[161] Religion: Methodist Episcopal[161] C.O.D.: killed while traveling with a party to Pike's Peak, CO[161] C.O.D.: lost or murdered on the plains of western Kansas[453] Alias/AKA: John Robinet Cassil Father: Joseph Cassil (-1813) Mother: Catharine Robinett Spouses --------------------------------------------- 1: Christina Susan Welday[85],[161] Born: 12 Oct 1806 PA or Jefferson Co., OH [82],[85],[161],[182],[88],[75] Died: 24 Oct 1896 Moniteau Co., MO[88],[363] Buried: 26 Oct 1896 Moniteau Co., MO[88] Marriage: 15 Apr 1824 Jefferson Co., OH [161],[363] Children: Catharine (1825-1892) Mary Elizabeth (1827-1833) Francis H. (1830-1876) Margaret (1833-1889) William (1836-1916) Phillip Ward (1838-1913) Sarah Ann (1842-1886) John Wycoff (1848-) Rose Ellen (1848-1910) Rebecca Jane (1840-1913) Hannah Louise (1851-1929) RESEARCH NOTES FOR JOHN R. CASSIL He was named in the death record of Phillip Ward Cassil; [85] A search of the death records of Wichita, KS from 1887 through 1910 uncovered no evidence that he died in that location.[367] SOURCES 75. CORRESPONDENCE, dated 18 Dec 1997, from Virginia Tuft, to James William Johnson, original in possession. 79. CENSUS, 1855 Territorial, 15th Dist., KS, hand written notes in possession. 82. BOOK, Charles H. Jones, Historical Atlas Illustrated, (OH:author,1979), pg. 179, DCHS, city of Defiance, Defiance Co., OH, photocopy in possession. 85. DEATH RECORD, 12 Jan 1913, Phillip Ward Cassil, city of Des Moines, King Co., WA, file no. 1682, reg. no. 535, Washington State Board of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics, city of Olympia, WA, photocopy in possession. 87. CENSUS, 1840 US Census (Free Schedule), township of Northwest, Williams Co., OH, extracted version in possession. 88. PHOTOGRAPH, oldest date on marker was 24 Oct 1896, Christina Susan Welday's burial marker, taken on 11 Jun 1998, by James William Johnson, identified by Katherine Cassil, original in possession. 161. BOOK, Southern Historical Press, History of Cole, Moniteau, Morgan, Benton, Miller, Maries and Osage Counties, (Chicago: Goodspeed, 1889), pgs. 920-921, photocopy in possession. 182. CORRESPONDENCE, 22 Jun 1997, from David McCalister, to James William Johnson, original in possession. 184. CENSUS, 1830 US Census (Free Schedule), township of Island Creek, Jefferson Co., OH, typed extract in possession. 215. DEED, 31 Jan 1853, John R. Cassil (to Adolphus Rodgers), Williams County Courthouse, vol. 1-2, pgs. 84-85, Williams Co., OH, photocopy in possession. 216. DEED, 16 Feb 1849, John R. Cassil (from Nathan H. Ferrin), Williams Co., OH, Wyoming County Courthouse, vol. 10, pgs. 217-218, Wyoming Co., NY, photocopy and typed extraction in possession. 217. CIVIL ACTION, 24 Oct 1853, Frances Cassil v John R. Cassil, Williams Co., OH, Williams County Courthouse, vol. 1, pg. 151 (FHL 1,299,383), Williams Co., OH, photocopy and typed extract in possession. 351. BOOK, Esther Weygandt Powell, Early Ohio Tax Records, (Akron: author, 1971), pg. 96, photocopy in possession. 363. EMAIL MESSAGE, 27 Nove 1998, Evelyn Partee (JOHuffER@aol.com), information from Hannah Louise CASSIL's Bible, printed original in possession. 367. EMAIL MESSAGE, John Robinett Cassil, 1887-1910 Wichita Death Records, from Bill Pennington, to James William Johnson, dated 03 Dec 1998, printed version in possession. 453. BOOK, Defiance County Historical Society, Defiance County History, (OH: author, 1883), pg. 363, abstracted version in possession. --------------------------------------------- Last Modified: 11 Mar 1999 Created: 11 Mar 1999

In a message dated 4/5/99 3:53:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, breihsen@hotmail.com writes: << I end up with 2 pages of mail and checking each on out that doesn't have anything to do with my research takes me ages, because this hot mail microsort box is limited in strength and is extremely slow. This idea would help. >> I have no idea what this message means!

Another question that I haven't seen addressed is copyright infringement. I looked up the laws and they seem to indicate that it's okay to lookup 1 or 2 names for someone else, from a copyrighted source that you own, , but what are called"blanket" lookups, that is everyone with a certain name, are not allowed. People email me and ask for ALL the Smiths or Jones's on a CD or in a certain book, and sending it to them is actually breaking the copyright laws. I think we need to tread carefully in this respect. We all have a pretty good thing going for us, and if we play by the rules, nothing need change. Original Message----- From: Janice G. Donley <jdonley@bellatlantic.net> To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, April 05, 1999 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Private replies vs. listserv replies >I agree that private-type messages should be sent to individuals, however >I wouldn't want to discourage people from sharing their research with the >group. Also if several people have responded to your message I don't >think it is unreasonable to thank them as a group through the list. > >I have picked up a couple of leads from names hidden in others research >of seemingly unrelated names. Sometimes a member of your family line >might marry into my line and that name isn't an issue for you, but it >shows me where my line is and possibly an unknown family member. > >I think this group is really good about keeping messages short and to the >point. The only things I see that we mess up on (including me) ;-}) are >putting the main names in caps and keeping the subjects relevant. Both >of these things help others to know what to delete and what to keep. > >This is a very generous and active group. I appreciate all the time and >energy everyone puts into it. > >Janice > > >==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from the list. Send an e mail to >ohjeffer-l-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the message body.

I agree that private-type messages should be sent to individuals, however I wouldn't want to discourage people from sharing their research with the group. Also if several people have responded to your message I don't think it is unreasonable to thank them as a group through the list. I have picked up a couple of leads from names hidden in others research of seemingly unrelated names. Sometimes a member of your family line might marry into my line and that name isn't an issue for you, but it shows me where my line is and possibly an unknown family member. I think this group is really good about keeping messages short and to the point. The only things I see that we mess up on (including me) ;-}) are putting the main names in caps and keeping the subjects relevant. Both of these things help others to know what to delete and what to keep. This is a very generous and active group. I appreciate all the time and energy everyone puts into it. Janice

Hello.. Can someone please tell me if there would possibly be a James BATEMAN in the 1900 Jefferson Co. Census, probably Cross Creek (George's Run, this is near New Alexandria and Mingo) Twp.? Thanks so much for any help. Barb carptet@1st.net

Hello List, can anyone answer some questions about the process of obtaining citizenship, for foreigners who entered the country before 1900, and settled in Toronto, Ohio ? When would it be necessary for an adult or a child to apply for citizenship ? After applying, is there a minumum waiting time required by law ? Is it possible that the orignal applications for citizenship are archived someplace that can supply a copy of the applications ? I am hoping that someone on the list can give me a better understanding of the citizenship process. Thanks, R. Greenlees rjg1932@juno.com Searching for information on John Greenlees, born 1875, in Scotland. His mother Mary Jane Greenlees, born about 1842, in Ireland. She may have been using her maiden name (Christie), after arriving in Toronto. They both arrived in the U.S. about 1885-1886. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I was doing research on my family and looking for a publication and came across the name of MERCER. That surname for some reason stuck in my head that someone was researching it. If so, please contact me... I have information on a publication with Your Surname and My Surname in it. Becky MrsBigOtis@AOL.com

<A HREF="http://cicnet.ci.gc.ca/english/faq/ask-an2e.html">FAQ - You Asked About ... Immigration and Citizenship [Annex 2] </A> <A HREF="http://www.grasmick.com/canimfaq.htm#WE HAVE A CANADIAN">FAQ Part I-Frequently Asked Questions: Canada to U.S. Immigration for Businesse </A> <A HREF="http://cicnet.ci.gc.ca/">Welcome to Citizenship and Immigration Canada / Bienvenue à Citoyenneté et Immi </A> <A HREF="http://www.carswell.com/records/L459-53832.html">Canada-U.S. Business Immigration Handbook </A> This would tell you hopefully what you want as I am going throught this to obtain landed immigration in Ontario Canada.

Hi all, this is a great and efficient idea. I end up with 2 pages of mail and checking each on out that doesn't have anything to do with my research takes me ages, because this hot mail microsort box is limited in strength and is extremely slow. This idea would help. Bobbie >From: "David McClain" <dmcclain@bbc.edu> >Reply-To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Private replies vs. listserv replies >Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:29:37 -0500 > >There's a lot of fascinating and helpful information circulated through the >listservs, but also a lot of messages which would be better sent to a >private individual rather than to all of us. I'm thinking of "thank you" >notes, etc. which are really directed to just one person. I'm suggesting >that all of us include our own e-mail address on each message so that, when >appropriate, another individual can send the reply directly to the >interested party rather than to everybody. That means that sometimes, >instead of routinely hitting the "reply" button, we should type in the >specific name of the person who wrote the note. Messages which are of >general interest should, of course, still be sent to the entire list. This >is not said to discourage anybody, but when you get as much mail as I do it >can get to be overwhelming. I really do appreciate the generosity of >listserv members, and I hope my suggestion will help to reduce the load for >all of us. > >Happy Easter, everybody! > >David C. McClain >dmcclain@bbc.edu > > > > > >==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== >Searching for a "lost" place?? Visit > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I am also interested in information on a TAYLOR family who lived in the Steubenville area of Jefferson County in the mid-1800's. Looking for information on Thomas B. TAYLOR m. 25 April 1867 to Lillie MCCRORY in Jefferson Co. Thomas TAYLOR d. 1893, Lillie in 1914. Thomas and Lillie are buried in Union Cemetery in Steubenville with my g.g.grandfather, Joseph GREENWOOD. There are a couple of mysteries involving Lillie which are quite interesting and I would very much like to talk to someone who knows of this couple and their children. Karla staudt@cptelco.net -----Original Message----- From: DEkey68402@aol.com <DEkey68402@aol.com> To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 5:25 PM Subject: Taylors >We too are interested in the Taylors in Jefferson County and have just started >to search this line. I have 2 ggg grandparents who were brother and sister - >Edward Taylor (about 1762-8 Feb 1839) and Margaret (Taylor) Howden >(1766-1841). They were children of Peter Taylor, believed born near >Swanlinbar, County Cavan, Ireland. Edward Taylor married Elenor Hewit and they >are buried in Mt Tabor Cemetery, Island Creek Twp, Jefferson Co, OH. >Margaret married Andrew Howden and lived and died in Washington Co, PA near >Beallsville. Edward and Eleanor (Hewit) Taylor had the following children: >William; James; John; Edward; Thomas; Mary; Jane; Margaret; Eliza; Anna. >Anna (1806-1884) who married James Crawford (1801- 1872) was my gg >grandmother. Would be glad to hear from anyone with connections to this >family. > >Doyle Ekey >

I am looking for the family, parents, siblings of William Wood (b.c.1760) and Mary Smith who married about 1775-1780. Their daughters Elizabeth and Hannah, both married Benjamin Whitehead Ladd (1782-1851). William Wood owned "Prospect Hill" a farm in Smithfield, Ohio, where he and Mary died. Benjamin Ladd was a Quaker from Charles City County, VA. The Wood and Smith families are probably Quakers from VA also. Any information on the Wood and Smith families would be very welcome. Thank you, Bonnie Ladd Hamilton

I forgot dates---DUH > From: Peter <travels@jps.net> > To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 11:46 AM > Subject: KEEVER family sought > > >Looking for the parents and collateral lines from the marriage of > >KEEVER, William (1805-1890) to > >SMITH, Anna b 1803 (from Ireland- family lore whispers) > >Rumor has it that the keevers came from Jefferson Co. OH into Washington > >Co into Waterford Twp, where William Smith KEEVER (1833-1919) married Sarah Jane > >HALL 27 OCT 1853 in Coal Run, Washington Co; Waterford Twp OH. > >Any Jefferson County Keevers anywhere? > >Thanks, Peter

Looking for the parents and collateral lines from the marriage of KEEVER, William to SMITH, Anna (from Ireland- family lore whispers) Rumor has it that the keevers came from Jefferson Co. OH into Washington Co into Waterford Twp, where William Smith KEEVER married Sarah Jane HALL. Any Jefferson County Keevers anywhere? Thanks, Peter

Does anyone have informtion on Richard Evan Roberts, s Ezekiel & Elize Ann, b. 1843, and his wife, Mira G. S--? I am told that Mira is a relative of my Clark family, but have been unable to find that connection. They were members of the Short Creek MM, but the records don't show her maiden name. They lived near Emerson, and married 4-3-1867. Thank you very much. Ruth Edney

We are definetly connecyed. You mentioned every thing that I have. That is my line from Peter Taylor. I grew up near the Mt. Tabor Cemetery and graduated from Jefferson Union. I have been looking for someone on the Ekey line for some time. Let's get together and exchange some info. Sounds like you have quite a bit of material and I do also. Frank Taylor frank.taylor@cwix.com ---------- > From: DEkey68402@aol.com > To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Taylors > Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 1:21 PM > > We too are interested in the Taylors in Jefferson County and have just started > to search this line. I have 2 ggg grandparents who were brother and sister - > Edward Taylor (about 1762-8 Feb 1839) and Margaret (Taylor) Howden > (1766-1841). They were children of Peter Taylor, believed born near > Swanlinbar, County Cavan, Ireland. Edward Taylor married Elenor Hewit and they > are buried in Mt Tabor Cemetery, Island Creek Twp, Jefferson Co, OH. > Margaret married Andrew Howden and lived and died in Washington Co, PA near > Beallsville. Edward and Eleanor (Hewit) Taylor had the following children: > William; James; John; Edward; Thomas; Mary; Jane; Margaret; Eliza; Anna. > Anna (1806-1884) who married James Crawford (1801- 1872) was my gg > grandmother. Would be glad to hear from anyone with connections to this > family. > > Doyle Ekey

I do have a Richard W.Taylor. Richard's dad was also Richard. I don't have any info about this son of Richard, except that he was born about 1837. Could mathematically have a son named William, but I do not have any info beyond the birth date. Did Richard have any brothers/sisters? Could trace it that way. Did your dad have an uncle named Samuel B. Taylor or Alex F. Taylor or William Watson Taylor? Or any aunts named Eleanor Taylor-Elliot, or Jennie Taylor-Montgomery? If so, we could match through this way. Frank ---------- > From: FRANK TAYLOR <frank.taylor@cwix.com> > To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: sugar grove M. E Church > Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:35 AM > > This maybe a distant cousin, but the dates don't match with my names. I > will continue to check though. > Frank > > ---------- > > From: Richard Caldwell <beardog@gateway.dakotacom.net> > > To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: sugar grove M. E Church > > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 5:38 PM > > > > I don't have much except that William's father was Richard Taylor, m. > > Hariett McCutschan (sp?). William was born 9/13/1860 in Belmont Co., d > > 1953 in Martins Ferry, OH, married Val Irene Finney b. 2/1/1864, d. 1939. > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > > > > > At 02:32 PM 3/29/99 -0800, you wrote: > > >I have several William Taylors in my lineage. Do you have any other > family > > >names to go with your grandfather that we might connect? > > >Frank > > > > > >---------- > > >> From: Richard Caldwell <beardog@gateway.dakotacom.net> > > >> To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > > >> Subject: Re: sugar grove M. E Church > > >> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 5:46 AM > > >> > > >> > > >> My grandfather was William W. Taylor b. 1860 from Martins Ferry, OH, I > > >> think its close to Jefferson County. > > >> > > >> > > >> At 07:57 AM 3/29/99 -0800, you wrote: > > >> >Saw the email about this subject. Do you have any of the cemetery > > >records > > >> >concerning Sugar Grove M.E. Church? Several of my references connect > my > > >> >lines there and would love to have some info. > > >> > > > >> >Looking for Taylor connections in Jefferson County. > > >> > > > >> >Frank Taylor > > >> >frank.taylor@cwix.com > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== > > Reminder: Please do not send mail to the list using HTML or RTF > > If you aren't sure, visit > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/listowners/html-off.htm

The Carroll Co. Gene. Soc. has a published Tope History. The family began with Henry Tope of Maryland, the family settled in Carroll Co.; Union Twp. where Henry built a grist mill. A son George Tope b. 1782 d. 1832 had a son John who settled in Jackson Co. Oh. JS _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Dave The John Tope buried in Toronto, Oh. was originally from West Virginia. His first wife was Lucy Nesbit she died June 30, 1895. He did remarry could be to Mary Allen I don't know second wifes name. His children to Lucy were Carl J., Herman J., William Jasper, and Roy Nesbit. He died January 29, 1913. I do not think he had any children to his second wife. Becky ---------- > From: David H. Brown <d_brown@pipeline.com> > To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: TOPE, STRADDLER/STRADLER > Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 2:04 AM > > Sandra and Judie, > Thanks for the look-ups. > Judie: Although that wasn't what I was looking for, it sounds as though > there may be some new info here for me. Does the index have any dates, > locations or other specifics on John Tope and Mary Allen? There are a > number of John Tope's, but I don't have any with a Mary Allen. > Sandra: Elizabeth Bower was George Tope Sr's (b.1761) second wife (side > note: he had twenty-four kids; twelve by each!). George II (b.1782) married > Mrs. Elizabeth Everhart Allbaugh; he was a son of George Sr and Catherine. > George II did have a brother named Jacob (b.1801), but the Jacob that > married Sally Everhart may have been one of his two cousins also named > Jacob. > Thanks. > Dave > > >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 05:12:56 EST > >From: SidandJer@aol.com > >To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <efa318ca.3701f528@aol.com> > >Subject: Re: TOPE, STRADDLER/STRADLER > >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > > >Hi, I looked in the index of the Jeff. Co. Tombstone Inscriptions book and > the > >only Tope is a John and a Mary Allen. that's all I could find. > > Judie > > > >______________________________X-Message: #3 > >Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 08:53:31 -0500 > >From: "Sandra Ferguson" <ferg@wvinter.net> > >To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com > >Message-ID: <000d01be7b7d$e032b2e0$1fc4a2d0@sandra.wvinter.net> > >Subject: Re: TOPE, STRADDLER/STRADLER > >Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >I show a marriage for a George Tope and Elizabeth Bowers on July 3, 1804. > >this is recorded in the Jeff C. marriage book 1, page 24. also one for > >George Tope and Elizabeth Everhart June 25, 1812...(book 1, pg 13). > >Interestingly, Jacob tope married Sally Everhart Feb. 18, 1812.....probably > >2 brothers married 2 sisters. > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David H. Brown <d_brown@pipeline.com> > >To: OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> > >Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 2:39 AM > >Subject: TOPE, STRADDLER/STRADLER > > > > > >>I am searching for information regarding the first wife of George TOPE > >>(b.1761). Her name may have been Catherine STRADDLER or STRADLER. We do > >>not have the date of their marriage, but it probably took place about 1780 > >>and perhaps near Redstone, Fayette County PA as that was where the Topes > >>resided prior to 1800. In about 1800 they moved to a farm about two miles > >>east of Salem, Jefferson County Ohio, and then a year or so later to about > >>a mile and a half west of Richmond. We believe that Catherine passed away > >>within the first couple years of arriving in Ohio and when they lived at > >>one of these locations. We have no information on Catherine or her family. > >> Does anyone have any burial or cemetary records or any other records > >>listing a Catherine Tope in Jefferson County? > >>Thanks for any help. > >>David Brown > > > ==== OHJEFFER Mailing List ==== > This list is archived. To search the archives visit http://www.geocities.com/heartland/1261 > and scroll until you find the search "button". >

Dave, I was going through a newspaper film from the Ohio Historical Society yesterday (#34691) re: Carroll Free Press, Carrollton, OH (Carroll Co.) for October 15, 1841 - Dec 26-1845 and saw a reference that I wrote down: TOPE, John, Monroe Township, Dec. 1844 Recalled the name from the list (thought didn't remember WHICH list). Now, those were the only notes I made...but I THINK it was mentioning taxes due. Since today's post jogged my memory, I pulled copies of Carroll Co. Tax Records... 1833 Union and Perry Township, Carroll Co. TOPE, George (gristmill) 6-14-2 John 6-14-2 George 3 horses 6 cows Jacob 2 H 3 C Elizabeth 2 H 1 C Stephen 1 H 2 C John 1 H 3 C TOPE, John Monroe Township 6-14-29 Jacob l H 2 C Could your Jefferson Co. John TOPE have been in Carroll Co. also? Hope this helps. Katy in San Antonio klmpkm@aol.com Searching: SCOTT, SHAW, BRANDON, CARLILE, YANT