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    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Rose family
    2. Don Wagner
    3. Beryl ----My searches for parents of Rbt Guthrie(b.1752) and Mary H. (Rose) Guthrie(b.1833)will continue. But tks very much....The Robert C Guthrie you mentioned could be either the sr or jr in my line....Robert m. Eliz Jane Caldwell, or his son, Robert Caldwell Guthrie, jr., who m. Jane Cunningham. tks again for your help. The Rose connections appear to be a stone wall. All I know is in my newspaper obit of Mary H. Guthrie, listed her husband as William L.(Lambert) Guthrie and her father as Charles Rose. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [ohjeffer] Rose family > Hi Don, I wasn't sure if you wanted me to do a lookup in this book, "History > of Belmont and Jefferson Counties" but I did it anyhow, and will share the > results! Hopefully you will receive other replies from family members. > THere is no CHarles Rose in the index, but these names are listed: Alex, > Alexander, Christian, James, John, Joseph, Lizzie, Margaret, Martha, William > Jr, Wm Sr. > For the Guthrie name, the index lists these: A.A., Guian, Robert C and > Samuel. > THere is nothing on Mary Rose nor William Lambert Guthrie. The index lists > under the Lambert name only Henry and Sarah. > Good luck! Beryl Redfield, Salt Lake City

    12/28/2000 06:11:28
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] will do lookups
    2. Glenda, a review of the index shows 4 citations for a Thomas Moore (p187,203,210,559). The 1st reference mentions Thomas Moore in connection with the biosketch of Hon Wilson Shannon of Belmont county; the Shannon family moved onto a piece of government land, "which was entered by Thomas Moore of Loudon county Va, in the following summer (1801)..After Mr. Moore entered those lands he rented them to Mr. Shannon for a term of years. The farm from the time Mr. Moore entered the lands to this day has been known by the name of the Moore farm." The next reference is to a Thomas D. Moore who was a private in Co F 50th Regiment, O.V.I, and again a Thomas D. Moore who was appointed corporal on December 23, 1862 (same regiment), taken prisoner November 30, 1864 at battle of Franklin, discharged May 22, 1865. The next reference is to a Thomas L. Moore a private of Company C 170th Regiment National Guard from Bellaire Ohio, organized May 13 and 14, 1864 to serve one hundred days. The final reference mentions Thomas Moore as one of the early settlers of Wayne Township. There is a Mrs Thomas Moore (p336) who at the time of the writing of this book (1880) is mentioned in Warren Township, and it states "George Shannon settled section 12, and built his cabin on the farm now owned by Mrs. Thomas Moore, a fourth of a mile north of Mt. Olivet." There is no reference for Robert Haxton, his wife Nancy nor Margaret Haxton. hope this helps some! Beryl

    12/27/2000 05:13:27
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Beryl The History of Jefferson & Belmont Counties - ADAMS an...
    2. Aileen, there is a Thomas ADAMS is mentioned in this book on page 578 under the heading of "historical sketches" of Springfield township, and early settlers. It says, "..Thomas Adams, who came about 1810, and settled on section 27, now owned by his son, Jacob Adams." That is all that is mentioned about him, no mention of Elizabeth RALSTON although there are many Ralston names in the index. Beryl

    12/27/2000 04:48:24
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Re: (ohjeff) will do lookups
    2. Hi Beryl, thank you so much for looking. I really appreciate your efforts. Happy New Year, Jeanette

    12/27/2000 02:06:51
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Re: (ohjeff) will do lookups
    2. Jeanette, there is no Polly Brown in the index of this book. There are lots of Brown listings, however, but not by area. Beryl

    12/27/2000 12:15:52
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] will do lookups
    2. Linda, here is what I found. THere are lots of Jones names, and the 2 for William (no middle name) were both civil war vets. There is a William B, WIlliam, H and WIlliam M. No Susan Jones listed, no John Findley Jones. I will quote the biosketch on Lewis Jones, where James Jones is listed, altho I have no way of knowing for sure if he is yours. "Lewis Jones was born in London county, Virginia September 10, 1791. He migrated to Belmont county in 1816 and married Rebecca McPherson in 1817. They settled in Kirkwood township, where he remained and followed farming as his vocation. They reared a family of nine children - Allison, John Mc., Josiah, Amos T., Lorenzo D., William M., Samuel L., Delila and James. Amos T and Delila are deceased. Our subject died, April 21, 1871. His cmpanion is still surviving him and is 83 years of age." ( this was in 1880) Ellen Jones (p.522) is mentioned in the biosketch for John W. Gray as being a wife to one of his sons, but this Ellen gave birth in 1879 and your Ellen was born 1828, so it likely is not the same woman (to give birth at age 51!) This Ellen Jones was the daughter of John Jones. There is no listing for Elizabeth "susan" Jones. hope this has been helpful Beryl, Salt Lake CIty

    12/27/2000 12:10:34
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Look Up
    2. Warrene, the only JEFFRIES listed is for a George W. Jeffries. Beryl

    12/27/2000 11:36:44
    1. [ohjeffer] www address for the 1830 Christmas
    2. Julia A. Krutilla
    3. The permanent www address for OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS IN STEUBENVILLE, 1830'S: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/1830Christmas.htm It's been posted on the Jefferson County Chapter, OGS Data site for over a year.

    12/24/2000 02:57:16
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's
    2. kenneth t h mcfarland
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's > I just wanted Julia Krutilla to know how much we appreciate her listing of > this great article. I've made 3 copies so far with more to go ! Thank you > Julia! God bless everyone in Hancock County! I believe that Owings St. in > Weirton is named after my great-grandfather,so Weirton & Steubenville mean a > great deal to me indeed. Happy Holidays to everyone there! Thanks so much for > the great article! >

    12/24/2000 02:00:32
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] www address for the 1830 Christmas
    2. Thank you--guess I'm a little slow.

    12/24/2000 10:48:06
    1. [ohjeffer] More on 1830s Christmas
    2. Julia A. Krutilla
    3. To All, Thank you for the many kind comments regarding the article on The Observance of Christmas in Steubenville, 1830s. It's heartwarming to see others enjoying glimpses into the past. That article provides an accurate view of our ancestors celebrating the 1830s Holiday in our Ohio Valley and there are many, many more in the microfilmed newspapers. But, if their Christmas Day was as cold as it is here today in the Ohio Valley, they would be spending more time indoors at places such as the Red Lion, the Sign of the Ship, or The Blackbear and all the other Inns around the area - warming the cockles of their hearts with "smuthins". And these low temperatures would 'even' the chances for all - of catching that greased pig! That venerable Wm. RICHARDS, butcher and famous athlete would have to purchase his Christmas dinner for a change. ;) You know the women were busy working back then, too. Wouldn't you dread cleaning the greased clothing of your husbands who tried catching that porker? Time to check the thawing turkey. Enjoy the Day and Season, Julia

    12/24/2000 10:20:11
    1. Fwd: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's
    2. --part1_33.e74ed2b.2776fe3b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_33.e74ed2b.2776fe3b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za04.mail.aol.com (v77.31) with ESMTP; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:19:00 -0500 Received: from lists6.rootsweb.com (lists6.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.125]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:18:50 1900 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists6.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eBO7GZP03665; Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:16:35 -0800 Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:16:35 -0800 X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Sat Dec 23 23:16:28 2000 From: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2000 02:17:57 EST Subject: Re: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's Old-To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/5515 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] Would it be possible to print the article on Christmas in Steubenville again? Sometimes my grandsons get on my computer and I don't receive E-mail like I should--time to put a password on this computer! Thank you very much and Merry Christmas to all. Beverly--searching the Bigger family in Ohio --part1_33.e74ed2b.2776fe3b_boundary--

    12/23/2000 07:22:35
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's
    2. Would it be possible to print the article on Christmas in Steubenville again? Sometimes my grandsons get on my computer and I don't receive E-mail like I should--time to put a password on this computer! Thank you very much and Merry Christmas to all. Beverly--searching the Bigger family in Ohio

    12/23/2000 07:17:57
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's
    2. Thank you for sharing that article on Christmas in early Steubenville. My family did not come there until around 1844, but my great-great-great grandfather, INTREPID MORSE MARION, was named for Rev. Intrepid Morse. A later sibling, Mary Ann CHASE MARION, was named for a later minister at St. Pauls's too. Happy hunting to all, Briana (Marion) Caccamo Munroe Falls, OH

    12/23/2000 12:08:36
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's
    2. does anyone have a photo of the trainstation or the telegraph office from the 1911-1920 era from Wellsville or Empire Ohio. My grandfather worked there actually my great grandfather and I would love a photo Paula Miller

    12/23/2000 07:40:09
    1. [ohjeffer] THE OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS IN STEUBENVILLE, 1830'S
    2. Julia A. Krutilla
    3. THE OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS IN STEUBENVILLE, 1830'S Ushered in With the Roar of Games, the Day was Spent in Sports and Social Amusements Christmas is Christmas the whole Christian world over, but its observance in Steubenville in 1830 was a great deal different from that of 1890. Beyond dispute, the Christmas of 1890 was one of the best and most enjoyable ever in the history of the city. They probably thought the same in 1830 but they demonstrated to a different manner. Then it was more like the fourth of July celebration. The merchants made no special effort to sell attractive goods. Gifts were exchanged, but they were mere trifles. Few toys were then made and places like Steubenville did not handle them. Boys and girls were out the day before greeting every person with "Christmas Gift" and were raised to a heaven of delight at the present of a cake, a penny, a sixpence or some sweetmeat. The boys had saved up their pence, but it was to buy powder to raise a grand hurrah with cannons made out of musket barrels. It was a holiday, laid only in so far that men did no work and congregated during the morning at the Red Lion, kept by Squire JENKINSON in the HOIT property on North Third; the Sign of the Ship, kept by Jas. DICK; the Green Tree, kept by Thomas KEHS; the Bush, kept by Mrs. McKINLEY; Washington Hotel with its sign of the Lamb, The Blackbear, and others of the eleven hotels in the town. Here they would "have smuthin" to warm up the cockles of their hearts. It might be matigellum, Armstrong's strong beer, Hobands, Jamaica Rum, a ported Madeira, but was generally straight liquor with hot water and sugar. They would sit around the fire and discuss business or the coming shooting match, raffle or shinny game. Meanwhile the boys and young men were firing Jackson crackers and cannon and the very air was redolent with the smell of burnt powder. The women and girls were busy preparing for a dinner. Turkeys were not then considered such a necessary piece de resistance of a Christmas dinner. Two or three days before, several live bears would be brought to the city and killed; deer was fairly plenty and the game of all sort was in abundance. These were the articles feasted upon sixty years ago. Then there were no Sunday school treats; about the only treat the school boys and girls would get would be when they would lock or bar the teacher out of school and not let him in until he would promise to give them a donation party. A majority of the prominent early settlers were Presbyterians. They were more interested in doctrinal theology and the contest between Calvinism and Armenianism than in giving Christmas any peculiar significance at the present day. There were in 1830 only six churches in the city: The Presbyterian upon the present site of the Third Church and with the late Dr. BEATTY as pastor; the United Presbyterian with Rev. George BUCHANAN as pastor; the Kramer M. E. with Rev. T. M. HUDSON as pastor; the Methodist Protestant, just formed from eighty-one members of the Kramer and with Rev. R. C. HATTON as pastor; the Episcopal church then meeting in the old academy on High Street, with Rev. Intrepid MOORSE as rector, and the A. M. E. The Roman Catholics had no church until two years later, although Father McGRADY did missionary services with Steubenville as one of his stations. So it may be seen that sixty years ago only one church observed the day with any religious exercises, the Episcopal. The shooting matches and shinny game usually began in the morning. For the shooting matches all manner of game, such as deer and wild turkeys, were the prizes. The old time heavy barrelled muzzle loading rifle was used. Steubenville was noted for her expert marksmen and many are living today who will recall the unerring aim of the BICKERSTAFFS, the MYERS, and Barney WINTRINGER. Shinny was played then as now, only instead of boys, men would engage. The shooting matches and other games usually took place in the vacant ground above the present Reliance Engine House, now known as Carroll KELL's addition. The great sport of the day was catching the greased pig. A fine razor backed porker that could run like a deer was captured, shaved and smeared with lard. The man who caught the pig and held it got the pig. Both young and middle aged men entered the lists and what fun the onlookers had: The venerable Wm. RICHARDS, famous both as a butcher and athlete, especially for being a swift runner, made himself still more famous by successfully capturing the pig on several occasions. The men not engaged in the field sports would pitch coppers at a peg and everybody enjoyed the day. But these were not all the amusements. As has been stated before, Steubenville was then a city of 4,000, made up of all classes, but people mingled together with true democratic geniality. Yet there was a class usually denominated as the "nobility" or as we would call them the high social circles. Among the families then looked upon as in the higher social circle were the WELLS, McDOWELLS, COLLIERS, DIKES, MASONS, TAPPANS, WRIGHTS, LARIMERS, HALLOCK, ROBERTS, MEANS, PAGES, ANDREWS, HUTCHINS, GALBRAITHS, SLACKS, HENNINGS, and others. Very seldom was there a green Christmas, and advantage was taken of sleighing to go to Phillipsburg, now Brilliant, Wellsburg, or out to the Forks, at all of which places were excellent hotels or taverns. A messenger would be sent out the day before to notify the landlord of their coming so that a hot supper would be ready upon their arrival. Some would go together to the number of eight or twelve in a big sled, others in double or single sleighs, but it would be a merry party arriving at the tavern. Heavy wraps would hardly be removed when a huge punch bowl filled with steaming hot toddy would be brought in and all partook. The chill taken off, they were ready for a dance, the Virginia reel, the Tucker and the other dances then in vogue. With what zest the old people recall these days when the lights were tallow candles and the music a single old violin! In the intermissions they would gather around the big blazing fires, tell stories, relate amusing experiences. A bountiful supper was spread, as the taverns at all these places were famous for their table. At midnight they were ready for home and with song and jest, away the sleds and sleighs would go and home to bed and pleasant dreams. And we doubt whether they present day can give such pure unalloyed pleasures and enjoyment as they had in 1830. This is part of a featured column in the December 26, 1890 Steubenville Evening Star Newspaper which is at Schiappa Library in book form, and fully indexed by Ohio Room's, Sandy Day. This article is also included in the Winter 1999 Volume 13, Issue 4 of the Jefferson County Lines Newsletter and posted on the www at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/1830Christmas.htm May your Christmas be filled with Happiness and many Special Memories from the Past. JEFFERSON COUNTY CHAPTER, OGS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/

    12/23/2000 07:21:14
    1. [ohjeffer] Christmas in Steubenville in 1830's
    2. I just wanted Julia Krutilla to know how much we appreciate her listing of this great article. I've made 3 copies so far with more to go ! Thank you Julia! God bless everyone in Hancock County! I believe that Owings St. in Weirton is named after my great-grandfather,so Weirton & Steubenville mean a great deal to me indeed. Happy Holidays to everyone there! Thanks so much for the great article!

    12/23/2000 07:11:29
    1. [ohjeffer] Re:THE OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS IN STEUBENVILLE, 1830'S
    2. To: [email protected] Thank you for send this out! This is wonderful. I have printed copies for my family members to share at Christmas since our 3rd great grandfather, John B. PRIEST and his family lived in Steubenville in 1830. Happy Holidays to you & yours! Peggy

    12/23/2000 05:37:35
    1. Re: [ohjeffer] JONES
    2. Hi List: I've been seeing quite a few JONES names posted this week so I thought I'd list one of mine too, just in case they may fit with any of yours :-). Always looking for cousins! Margaret 'Maggie' Jones 1. Margaret 'Maggie' Jones, born April 1869 in Ohio; died April 17, 1903 in Brooklyn, Wetzel Co., WV. She was the daughter of 2. Daniel Jones and 3. Sarah Ann Wilkinson. She married (1) Walter Earl Priest December 25, 1895. He was born January 24, 1875 in New Martinsville, Wetzel Co., WV, and died September 09, 1930 in New Martinsville, Wetzel Co., WV.. He was the son of George Washington Priest and Caroline Harman. Generation No. 2 2. Daniel Jones, born 1827; died 1888. He was the son of 4. James Jones and 5. Catherine Daips. He married 3. Sarah Ann Wilkinson. 3. Sarah Ann Wilkinson Child of Daniel Jones and Sarah Wilkinson is: 1 i. Margaret 'Maggie' Jones, born April 1869 in Ohio; died April 17, 1903 in Brooklyn, Wetzel Co., WV; married Walter Earl Priest December 25, 1895. Generation No. 3 4. James Jones, born 1800. He was the son of 8. Ephriam Jones and 9. Phoebe //. He married 5. Catherine Daips. 5. Catherine Daips, born 1805; died 1888. Child of James Jones and Catherine Daips is: 2 i. Daniel Jones, born 1827; died 1888; married Sarah Ann Wilkinson. Generation No. 4 8. Ephriam Jones He married 9. Phoebe //. 9. Phoebe // Child of Ephriam Jones and Phoebe // is: 4 i. James Jones, born 1800; married Catherine Daips. ANYONE??? Happy Holidays to all! XOXO Peggy E-MAIL: [email protected] Los Angeles, Ca. Researching: PRIEST, COX, MENDEL, HARMAN, SMITH, GOETZ/GATES, CRESAP, CLARK, POTTS, CONRAD, BURFORD, ROBBINS, LARIMORE, NELSON, HOLMES, YOCUM/YOKUM, WELLS, PRATHER, SNODGRASS: in W.VA., Ohio, VA, PA, MD, Switzerland, England, Germany, etc. ROWE, WOODBURY, MURRAY, KIRWIN: in TX, Calif, Fla, Mass, ME, IN, CT, MD, England, Ireland & Canada. LAUCHU, WATTS, FERNANDEZ, CABALLERO: Michigan, Panama, Cuba, China [Proud member: SCGS, WCGS.] My family coat of arms ties at the back.....is that normal?

    12/22/2000 05:49:27
    1. [ohjeffer]
    2. Phyllis Grover
    3. Hi! I posted a messeage about a Cole death but I'm not sure it was recieved! I thought everyone who is related to the Cole's would like to know that Francis Lautenschlager died on Nov. 30th 2000 in California. linkage to Cole's is as follows: Rebecca Tipton and Farland B. Cole's ggranddaughter, Lucetta Lawrence and Charles F. Cole's granddaughter Katherine Cole and Ludwig Lautenschlager's daughter Not sure if anyone out there may remember her she married and moved to California many years ago. In Memory of Francis Phyllis - --------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/

    12/21/2000 01:38:28