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    1. [OHJEFFER] Jane Graden
    2. jack Shoemaker
    3. Jane was born in 1786 unknown place married John Emroy Henderson Nov.28,1810 in Jefferson Co. Ohio The lived on Bacon Ridge in Ross Town Ship in Jefferson Co. Oh. Jane Graden died in 1882 in Ross Town Ship possiblily on Bacon Ridge She is Buried in Zion M.E.Church Cemetery in Ross Town Ship in Jefferson Co. Oh. Any information on Jane Graden would be very mush appreciated Jack A Shoemaker Sun city Ca. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com

    09/29/2001 10:43:43
    1. [OHJEFFER] FRANCE
    2. Sandra Ferguson
    3. I looked the name up and could find nothing on Nicholas, but pass these on in case it they could prove helpful. The 1810 Tax list for Jeff. co lists a John and a Peter in Buffalo Twp. The only marriages listed 1798-1820 in the Jeff co. courthouse records are of Elizabeth France, who married George Rider in 1808 and John France, who married Elizabeth Myers in 1816. Sandra > Seeking information on Nicholas France who died in Steubenville in 1806 > and his family. According to the probated will he left land, Lot No. 1 > Eleventh Township, Fourth Range, to his grandson John France, son of > Jacob France. He also left the remainder of his estate to son Peter > France , son-in-law Samuel Underwood and grandson John France. Cash > bequests were made to daughter Eliza Ruse (Reiss ?) ( husband Michael), > Margaret Underwood, Mary Shumaker, Barbarey Spunaugle and Elizabeth > Tumbleston ( husband Nathaniel).

    09/24/2001 09:58:19
    1. [OHJEFFER] FRANCE, Nicholas
    2. Allan Tomlinson
    3. Seeking information on Nicholas France who died in Steubenville in 1806 and his family. According to the probated will he left land, Lot No. 1 Eleventh Township, Fourth Range, to his grandson John France, son of Jacob France. He also left the remainder of his estate to son Peter France , son-in-law Samuel Underwood and grandson John France. Cash bequests were made to daughter Eliza Ruse (Reiss ?) ( husband Michael), Margaret Underwood, Mary Shumaker, Barbarey Spunaugle and Elizabeth Tumbleston ( husband Nathaniel).

    09/24/2001 05:58:49
    1. [OHJEFFER] Trussell Publishing on eBay
    2. Has anyone ever ordered the "Family Group Sheets" on eBay from Trussell Publishing? They sure seem to have a lot of "Family Group Sheets" for just about all the surnames I am researching, so I was just wondering if anyone has had any dealings with them and if they are legitimate. I appreciate any input about them. Thanks in advance! LindaB

    09/21/2001 08:23:20
    1. [OHJEFFER] Ancesteries would be proud!
    2. Grover
    3. Hello list I know this is about geneology. I thought maybe in this time of grieving that everyone would like to know that our ancestries would be poud to have a ggggrandaughter that cares at such a young age. Her is her page I think you willl like it. http://www.geocities.com/inlovingmemory1/index.html Hope it goes to the right webpage been having trouble with yahoo lately.

    09/19/2001 11:26:22
    1. [OHJEFFER] Go light your candles and then listen to this
    2. Sandy Onbey
    3. It's time to light our candles....for the satellite picture Then come in and listen to this song... http://home.att.net/~poofycatt/EAGLE.html Sandy

    09/18/2001 04:32:49
    1. Re: [OHJEFFER] Probate Court birth records
    2. Carol Montrose
    3. Sometimes if you look at a topographical map of the area your families lived in, you will get a better idea of why they went to one town or the other... Check the surrounding counties for the birth records also. the tax assessor came around once a year and gathered info to set up the taxes as well as collecting the info on births & deaths for that area for that year..he then sent or took the info to the courthouse... There were "return" forms similar to the birth & death records we know of now that were filled out and the info transcribed into the large volumes. You may check wherever Probate Court records are stored, to see if any of those returns have survived. Most people don't know about them so don't know to look for them. Of course Probate Court workers rarely know either since it was their forerunners who had to deal with the forms...not them. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: Jean Scarlott <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [OHJEFFER] Probate Court birth records > Marilyn, > Sorry to say that all births where no recorded. The doctors, or families > where to turn the births into the township, which in turn they where to turn > them into the county. Or the family could recorded the births when they > where in the county seats. Sometimes I have found the birth one child then > one is skipped and the next one is recorded. > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marilyn Hesse" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:57 PM > Subject: [OHJEFFER] Probate Court birth records > > > > I've just finished reviewing for the second time the microfilm of the > > Jefferson Co. Probate Court birth records, 1867-1894. (LDS film no.900039) > > No luck! My ggrandmother Margaret Robinson had 5 siblings born in Ohio > > between 1871 and 1880. Two of them specified Jefferson Co. (Irondale) on > > their marriage licences., and they are all listed on the 1880 census as > > living there. > > > > Does anyone know why their births would not be recorded? Was this > optional? > > > > The parents were James and Sarah Robinson and the children's names were > > Luella (b. abt. 1871), Harry (b. abt. 1873), Emma (b. abt. 1875), > Elizabeth > > (b. Feb 1877) and Oron Newton (b.Jun 1880). > > > > > > Marilyn Mills Hesse [email protected] Windsor, CT, USA > > > > Researching: > > BRENNER - Meisenheim & Lauterecken,Bavaria,Germany>Louisville,KY > > CRAIGHEAD- Beaver Co.PA > > DENNIS - New Jersey>Bucks Co.PA>Crawford Co.PA > > GLASS - Clausen,Germany>Louisville,KY > > GUNTERMANN-Brilon,Westphalia,Germany>Louisville, KY > > HAMILTON - Killybegs,Co.Donegal,Ireland>Liverpool,UK>Crawford Co.PA > > HESSE - Brilon,Westphalia,Germany>Louisville,KY > > LYNCH - Co. Derry and Co.Antrim,Ireland>Beaver Falls, PA > > McQUISTON -Co.Antrim,Ireland>South Carolina>Crawford Co.& Mercer Co.,PA > > MILLS - Co.Tyrone,Ireland>Mercer Co.PA>Crawford Co.PA > > MOODY - Co.Derry and Co.Antrim,Ireland>Beaver Falls,PA > > MOORE/MOON-Co.Tyrone,Ireland>Mercer Co.PA>Crawford Co.PA > > MUELLER - Munsterburg,Silesia>Magdeburg,Germany>Louisville,KY > > ROBINSON - Jefferson Co.OH>Beaver Co.PA > > WILLIAMS - Connecticut>New Jersey>Crawford Co.PA > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

    09/17/2001 03:55:17
    1. [OHJEFFER] Website For Prayer and Support
    2. Sandy Onbey
    3. Working together is the thing to do. Thanks Sandy One thing is I make links and connect people , John makes facts and links people together , I have been so busy . My Prayer list takes pictures, it also has a 20 meg self posting web site for files and pictures, and the web site has a message board . Glad to have any one sign it,would like to have all I can get . My Prayers are not just for those who died and their loved ones , but for America and all peaceful people and Nations, because we were ALL attacked , world freedoms has been changed because these terrorist have made it clear they do not care about LIFE or NATIONALITY they use humans as weapons against peace and we can not tolerate that , we need to pray for peace and fix this as much as we can with out violence against any <peaceful people> but only the groups involved. Love you all and stop and see my site , its growing I just have had so much e-mail and got so tired when I fell asleep last night at 11 PM I slept right thro to 9 AM and missed a lot of hours , I have stayed up 3 days almost straight doing mail and watching TV , I am glad to be a part of the US Gen Web If any one has a link, please send it to me. Prayer to you all - feel free to spread this message around Please post those people missing or unknown or lost to the message board also ! Dan Site for Prayers and requests to WEBSITE http://www.wvi.com/~wb/FLAG.html --snip-- Letter I had written and sent to Dan... > There has been a page set up by Dan on the Cherokeeprayer list for support > and prayers during this (they are the only one that I have seen that have > been non-stop throughout the whole thing. > John Rigdon is also working with Dan and they have linked to each others > sites) of all the mailing lists I am on right now. > > Dan's site: http://www.wvi.com/~wb/FLAG.html > John's site: http://www.researchonline.net/disaster/index.htm > > If you want to sign up on the list they would welcome you...they are super active though...over 14,000 e-mails so far!) > > In hope and prayer... > > Sandy

    09/16/2001 07:33:07
    1. Re: [OHJEFFER] Probate Court birth records
    2. Jean Scarlott
    3. Marilyn, Sorry to say that all births where no recorded. The doctors, or families where to turn the births into the township, which in turn they where to turn them into the county. Or the family could recorded the births when they where in the county seats. Sometimes I have found the birth one child then one is skipped and the next one is recorded. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Hesse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: [OHJEFFER] Probate Court birth records > I've just finished reviewing for the second time the microfilm of the > Jefferson Co. Probate Court birth records, 1867-1894. (LDS film no.900039) > No luck! My ggrandmother Margaret Robinson had 5 siblings born in Ohio > between 1871 and 1880. Two of them specified Jefferson Co. (Irondale) on > their marriage licences., and they are all listed on the 1880 census as > living there. > > Does anyone know why their births would not be recorded? Was this optional? > > The parents were James and Sarah Robinson and the children's names were > Luella (b. abt. 1871), Harry (b. abt. 1873), Emma (b. abt. 1875), Elizabeth > (b. Feb 1877) and Oron Newton (b.Jun 1880). > > > Marilyn Mills Hesse [email protected] Windsor, CT, USA > > Researching: > BRENNER - Meisenheim & Lauterecken,Bavaria,Germany>Louisville,KY > CRAIGHEAD- Beaver Co.PA > DENNIS - New Jersey>Bucks Co.PA>Crawford Co.PA > GLASS - Clausen,Germany>Louisville,KY > GUNTERMANN-Brilon,Westphalia,Germany>Louisville, KY > HAMILTON - Killybegs,Co.Donegal,Ireland>Liverpool,UK>Crawford Co.PA > HESSE - Brilon,Westphalia,Germany>Louisville,KY > LYNCH - Co. Derry and Co.Antrim,Ireland>Beaver Falls, PA > McQUISTON -Co.Antrim,Ireland>South Carolina>Crawford Co.& Mercer Co.,PA > MILLS - Co.Tyrone,Ireland>Mercer Co.PA>Crawford Co.PA > MOODY - Co.Derry and Co.Antrim,Ireland>Beaver Falls,PA > MOORE/MOON-Co.Tyrone,Ireland>Mercer Co.PA>Crawford Co.PA > MUELLER - Munsterburg,Silesia>Magdeburg,Germany>Louisville,KY > ROBINSON - Jefferson Co.OH>Beaver Co.PA > WILLIAMS - Connecticut>New Jersey>Crawford Co.PA > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

    09/15/2001 08:55:32
    1. Re: [OHJEFFER] In Loving Memory
    2. Cindy Owens
    3. Thank you Sandy! It IS a beautiful site. Cindy

    09/15/2001 08:47:50
    1. [OHJEFFER] Ancestor Poem
    2. The  ELUSIVE ANCESTOR I went searching for an ancestor. I cannot find him still. He moved from place to place and did not leave a will. He married where a courthouse burned.  He mended all his fences. He avoided any man who came to take the U.S. Census. He always kept his luggage packed, this man who had no fame. And every 20 years or so, the rascal changed  his name. His parents came from Europe.  They should be upon some list Of passengers to USA, but somehow they got missed. And no one in the world is searching for this man So, I play genea-solitaire to find him if I can. I'm told he's buried in a plot, with tombstone he was blessed. But the weather took engraving, and some vandal took the rest. He died before the county clerks decided to keep records No Family Bible has emerged, in spite of all my efforts. To top it of this ancestor, who caused me many groans Just to give me one more pain, betrothed a girl named JONES

    09/10/2001 05:39:32
    1. [OHJEFFER] Mrs. Nehemiah JOHNSON, nee Mary BICKERSTAFF
    2. Julia A. Heaton Krutilla
    3. The following is a first installment of an article posted in the recent - Volume 18, Issue 3, September 7, 2001, of the Jefferson County Historical Association Newsletter. Enjoy this morsel shared by JCHL Newsletter Editor, Charles F. Green ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ INTERESTING RECOLLECTIONS OF NINETY YEARS AGO (abstracted from the History of Belmont and Jefferson Counties, Ohio ) Hearing that Mrs. Johnson, nee Mary Bickerstaff, was on a visit to Steubenville, we were fortunate enough to secure a series of interviews with the venerable old lady, who has seen nearly ninety summers up to this date. We found her seated very happily rocking on each occasion of our visit, and were always welcomed to a seat beside her, as the old lady remarked ­ "My sight and hearing are not what they were fifty years ago." Acquainting her with our mission, she smiled a good-natured assent, and taking us by the arm said: "That's right; I'd like well for the world to know how we used to get along when I was a girl. Well, I was born in Pennsylvania, Nov. 14th, 1790, and when eight years old, came here to Steubenville with my parents, who secured a number of acres of land from Bazaleel Wells, located a mile and a half west of Steubenville. It was on the hill where the cemetery fence now crosses. Our wagons were hauled up by oxen, and I will tell you . . . . WHAT OUR LOG CABIN WAS LIKE. Father lost no time in piling together the logs, and with an admixture of mud and wood ashes we soon plastered the rude cot [cottage], which had a roof and doors constructed of clapboards. We improvised wooden hinges, and our door latches consisted of strings cut out of groundhog skins that we tanned ourselves. The floors were laid of split logs, the flat side up, and the same were used for joists; while at night, to keep out the wild animals ­ for there were heaps around ­ we used to pile a big 'back-log' against the door, which, together with a few kindlings formed our fuel for the day, burnt in a large open fire-place, or vacant space left; where it would burn safely. I tell you there was a heap of comfort in it as compared with your damask curtained houses of today. Without questioning the old lady's opinion, we suggested what was . . . . THE LOT OF LADIES IN THOSE DAYS. "Don't say 'ladies', my friend," said Mrs. J.; "we had no ladies in those days ­ we sought only to be women, and were proud of being called WOMEN. And, mind you, we never dreamed of disfiguring our bodies and deforming ourselves with 'Grecian bends', 'Roman falls', 'pull-backs', and long trains dragging in the mud. Finery was unknown to us ­ we carded, spun, and wore our clothing. There was no running to the store for everything you wanted. Our shawls consisted of good, home-made flannel, sometimes colored to our fancy; and our heads knew nothing better than hand-made sun bonnets for summer and warm wool hoods in winter. Our feet were covered with our own make of moccasins or shoe-packs, for which we tanned the leather ourselves. I tell you they were a heap better than your high-heeled, tight fitting fancy boots of to-day. We had no corns in those days, except such as were grown on the ear in the field. But I must tell you about our . . . . OLD TIME HUSKING MEETINGS. Well, the men and women, old and young, would meet on each farm in the season at sundown, and about fifty or sixty of them would go to work in real earnest. Two sides were chosen, and a rail was laid across where the middle of the pile of corn would fall, and each man would place a man at the ends of the rail, when they were through husking, the side that had husked the most would have their man picked up and carried around, amid loud hurrahs, as the captain. Then, while the men were penning up the husks in the field, the women would go to the house, cook turkeys, chicken, pumpkin pies, &c., and we'd have a rousing good supper. In those times we drank out of gourds and had only pewter plates and dishes ­ no crockery or glass. After supper, though it was late, we returned to the field and there enjoyed a good hearty game; we would all take hold hands, with a young man set in the middle of the ring, and we ran round singing: "Sister Phoebe, how merry were we The night we sat under the juniper-tree? Take this hat on your head, 'twill keep you warm; Take a sweet kiss, 'twill do you no harm. " And in this way would frisk about like kittens till all the young men had a moonlight kiss, and we would finish up by singing: "Mamma, who's been here since I've been gone? A pretty young girl with a josey on." A "josey" signifying a jacket. They were rare good times, I tell you; lots of good, solid harmless fun. No rye drinking, no beer or hard cider, though we did sometimes take a little "mafigelum," consisting of sugar, water and hops, which I'll tell you how to mix directly." We asked, by way of a change, "from the ridiculous to the sublime," if she would tell us HOW THEY INDULGED SPIRITUAL CONSOLATION. "Oh! We were not short of that," said the old lady, "but it was good solid religion in those days; not meetings gotten up to show off our clothes and to gossip. We had what we called 'riding preachers' come round; a minister on horseback, who held a service at one of our houses every other week, and every second week we had prayer meetings. Ah! And we put our whole souls into the worship. We did not quarrel and wrangle over all sorts of notions and isms, but united heart and voice in the common plain worship of God. And that reminds me of my dear old father. But, remember, he was no particular exception to the general rule in those days. He never took food, even to the extent of a piece without asking Divine blessing, that he might feel thankful for it. Ah! I think I see his dear white head, and his long, white beard, as he joined regularly in family prayer, and never in my life did I ever know him to retire without committing us all to God's tender care and mercy. My friend, those were days when the heart was lifted to God in earnestness, and we all felt prayer was our common duty to our Maker, but nowadays people seem to fancy they are condescending to approach God, and worse luck, there are not over many young folks that favor Him that much. I tell you, in religion things have mightily changed." We asked her for information on THE FIRST PUBLIC PREACHING IN STEUBENVILLE. When the old lady said that she never remembered preaching here "until 1799 or 1800, when one Lorenzo Dow visited this (then) scattered little hamlet, on foot, for he would not ride from place to place, on his mission for the Lord. A report had gained circulation that a great divine was coming, whom some were not slow to claim a second Christ, which led to 200 or 300 persons gathering here under a large tree that then stood at the end of the market square. Beneath this tree was a bench upon which butchers cut up their meat, and there was also an 'upping block.' When Dow arrived he looked exceedingly seedy and worn out by travel, so much so that he somewhat staggered which led our informant's mother to inquire of her good husband if he did not think the man drunk. The venerable old man simply replied, "Thee'll see directly." The Zealous ambassador of Christ mounted the "upping block" and, Mrs. Johnson states, addressed the people from the following words, which have never since ceased to ring in her ears: "Sent by my Lord, on you I call ­ The invitation is to all; Come all the world ­ come sinner, thou; All things in Christ are ready now." The sermon was one of unsurpassed eloquence and impressiveness, and the delighted audience voluntarily took up a hat collection, handing the receipts to the preacher, who though in dilapidated habiliments himself, sought out the most humbly attired man in the audience, and handing it to him bade him God speed in its use. Mr. and Mrs. Bickerstaff, parents of our informant, entreated Mr. Dow to visit their house and eat and rest with them, but he declined in the words, "I have not the time, my Lord's work must be done and I must go." We next asked for . . . . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (wait for the NEXT INSTALLMENT which will include recipes for tanning hides, and making 'Mafigelum'. Warning, you'll need a large pot to fit about 40 to 50 gallons of sugar water! See if Santa will get you one.) Now don't forget to stop by the Jefferson County Historical Association Museum at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjcha/ It's one of those little known gems which contain local history found no where else. Membership, tours of the museum/mansion, and research in their Vivian Snyder Library is encouraged. Consider calling ahead an making arrangements for family research. All info detailed on their web page above.

    09/10/2001 05:19:45
    1. Re: [OHJEFFER] Land Deed Help/1816-1827
    2. Marilyn Hesse
    3. What's BLM? Marilyn Mills Hesse [email protected] Windsor, CT, USA Researching: ROBINSON - Jefferson Co.OH>Beaver Co.PA ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: [OHJEFFER] Land Deed Help/1816-1827 | How/where do I get a copy a land deed or record for around 1816 for Jefferson | Co.? Robert H. McCoy, Sr. was in Jefferson Co., OH by 1816. I have found | through BLM he was living in Jefferson Co., OH when he purchased land in | Perry Twp. Tuscarawas Co., Ohio. Where he died in 1861. But there is no | listing for him at BLM for purchasing land in Jefferson Co. I need to get a | copy of his land deed for his purchase in Jefferson Co. Hoping it tells we | where he was living before Jefferson Co. I am sorry if this question has | been asked and answered before. Just starting my research in Jefferson Co. | Thanks for any help or guidance and you all have a great day. | | Connie | [email protected] | Keep genealogy free! Volunteer | | "Practice random acts of kindness"...... | | ______________________________

    09/09/2001 11:39:59
    1. [OHJEFFER] 1890 Census
    2. Claudia, There is no 1890 census for Jefferson Co as the 1890 census records were badly damaged in a fire in 1921. According to The Source, only Hamilton County (Cincinnati) and Clinton County, Wayne Twp exist for Ohio. You have to use other records to establish residency and family connections. Kathryn

    09/08/2001 03:00:48
    1. [OHJEFFER] Jefferson Co. grave sites
    2. Romayne Walters
    3. Hi, I would like to go to Jefferson Co. in the next few days and try to find the grave sites of my ancestors. Could someone help me find the following: William Cole died 1912 wife Achsah Roland Cole died ? Joshua Cole 1856 Wife Sarah Talbot Cole 1829 Elijah Cole 1859 Wife Martha Jeremiah Brown Wife Mary Culbertson Brown Thanks for your help. Romayn

    09/07/2001 06:11:48
    1. [OHJEFFER] "Free" Genealogy & Family History Workshops
    2. Bollschweiler
    3. The Wintersville, OH Family History Center has planned a "FREE" Genealogy & Family History Conference, 13 Oct 2001. Several workshops are being offered "FREE" to anyone interested, from the beginner to the advanced researcher. A list of the classes being offered and the schedule are available at: http://home.att.net/~boshy/registration.htm If you would like to attend, please go to the above page for registration information. Thank you, Diane Bollschweiler Wintersville FHC Director -- Family History Center # 740-264-6190 Hours: Tuesday 10:00am - 2:00pm Wednesday 6:00pm - 8:00pm Thursday 10:00am - 1:00pm & 5:00pm - 8:00pm

    09/07/2001 05:57:40
    1. [OHJEFFER] BURDESS LOOK-UP ON 1890 CENSUS REQUEST
    2. Hello, all! Does anyone have access to the Jefferson County census for 1890, specifically for Steubenville? I'd be very grateful for a look-up of the following family: Thomas BURDESS, wife Elizabeth "Bessie", and probably four children, Robert, Jane Ann, George, and Hannah. Any help or advice on where to find this census is greatly appreciated!! Thanks in advance! Claudia Pell-Salvatore in Northern Kentucky

    09/07/2001 04:27:19
    1. [OHJEFFER] Land Deed Help/1816-1827
    2. How/where do I get a copy a land deed or record for around 1816 for Jefferson Co.? Robert H. McCoy, Sr. was in Jefferson Co., OH by 1816. I have found through BLM he was living in Jefferson Co., OH when he purchased land in Perry Twp. Tuscarawas Co., Ohio. Where he died in 1861. But there is no listing for him at BLM for purchasing land in Jefferson Co. I need to get a copy of his land deed for his purchase in Jefferson Co. Hoping it tells we where he was living before Jefferson Co. I am sorry if this question has been asked and answered before. Just starting my research in Jefferson Co. Thanks for any help or guidance and you all have a great day. Connie [email protected] Keep genealogy free! Volunteer "Practice random acts of kindness"......

    09/07/2001 04:34:12
    1. [OHJEFFER] Unsubscribe
    2. Geraldine Allen
    3. Hi Listers: I am unsubscribing this list for awhile.

    09/07/2001 03:48:48
    1. [OHJEFFER] Calculating dates of birth
    2. >From the Platte Co., MO, Historical/Genealogical Society: In the event you don't have a computer close at hand to do the calculating: REMEMBER 8870. That's not an error: It's the number to remember when you want to find the birth date of someone when you only have the date of death and age. How do you figure the birth date? Suppose the person died May 6, 1889, at the age of 71 years, 7 months, 9 days. *Write the year, month, & day as:------------------------ 18890506 *Subtract the age at death:---------------------------------- 710709 *This give the figure -------------------------------------------- 18179797 *Now subtract 8870 -------------------------------------------- 8870 *The result is ----------------------------------------------------- 18170927 Year 1817, 9th month (Sept.), 27th day----- or 27 Sept. 1817.

    09/06/2001 11:18:34