I have a collateral line: a Julia (I think) Golden who married a Detillian in Pike Co. Ohio The Goldens were from Ky. but I don't know much else about her. They may have moved to Oregon or Washington then some of the family moved back to Ohio but to the Seneca Co. Ohio area after WWI. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christi" <vcscovel@earthlink.net> To: <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: [OHJEFFER] [No Subject] > good evening all!~ > > I am new to this list but not to rootsweb lists in general. I belong to > several mailing lists for surnames on my mothers side and for some reason it > just didnt sink in to do the same for my fathers side... the biggest brick > wall in my search > > I am searching the following names > my grandfather > James Robert McCain b. 20 Jul 1916 d. 25 Jan 1989, married Janice Louise > Frantz, my grandmother(living. I have no knowledge of any of the McCain > family past James, I do know that he had a brother John, and sister Katherine > > William Harrison Frantz b. 11 Dec 1896 d. ?married Gladys Myrle Golden b. > 9-Sept 1898 d.6-Apr 1977 I have no knowldege of any of the Frantz family I > do know that William Harrison Frantz served in WWI and fought in France. Last > know address for him was the Vets Hospital in Sanduski, Ohio in 1944. > > John A? Golden b.1830? married Mary Miller b. 1831. John is as far back as I > have gotten on the Golden family > > Joseph Hughes married Margaret Hyatt. This is the only info I have on these > two. Their children were: Emma Leora Hughes who married Arville Adolpus Golden > (my great great grandparents) Marry Mamie Hughes who married a Schell. Will > Hughes, Elmer Hughes, Phebe Hughes. John E. Hughes married ? Jennie Hughes > married a Butler. Nettie Hughes married an Arnold. Ola Hughes married a > Hespard. I have some of their grandchildren's names also but will not post > right now due to length of this email > > Clyde Grafton Scovel the second husband of Janice Louise Frantz (my > grandmother) > > Anyone with additional information please contact me as I am pounding my head > against this brick wall and getting no where. > I know some are probably asking why I dont ask my grandmother who is still > living for the info... I HAVE many many times... and dont get much from her. > > Christi Scove > Elizabethtown, KY > > > CHRISTI > > > > > CHRISTI >

I'm searching for descendants of the children of Philip and Mary CARREL who were John, Mary, Joseph, Margaret, Anthony, Catherine, Henry, Jane and Philip (Jr) CARREL, all born between 1798 and 1813, probably in Pennsylvania. This family was in Jefferson County, Ohio by 1812. The father Philip died in December 1813 while on active duty, 2nd U.S. Artillery, probably stationed at Fort Meigs. His heirs (above) were still in the Jefferson / Harrison / Carroll County area in 1835. Five of these children had a court appointed legal guardian who was James TORRENCE. Eric

In the Probate Records for Jefferson Co. 1803-1838 there is a marriage for JOSEPH ADAMS and JANE STONE ,7 April 1835. Hope this helps. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMurcia7@aol.com> To: <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:06 PM Subject: [OHJEFFER] Adams > Looking for info on Joseph Adams (1810- ) and wife Jane (abt 1814 - ). Kids > William, Laurinda (?), Elizabeth, Mary, Hannah. When did Joseph and Jane > marry? What was Jane's last name? Who were Joseph and Jane's parents? > > I know that Joseph and Jane moved their family to Davenport, Iowa. Joseph > died there in 1876. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Chris in Iowa > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

good evening all!~ I am new to this list but not to rootsweb lists in general. I belong to several mailing lists for surnames on my mothers side and for some reason it just didnt sink in to do the same for my fathers side... the biggest brick wall in my search I am searching the following names my grandfather James Robert McCain b. 20 Jul 1916 d. 25 Jan 1989, married Janice Louise Frantz, my grandmother(living. I have no knowledge of any of the McCain family past James, I do know that he had a brother John, and sister Katherine William Harrison Frantz b. 11 Dec 1896 d. ?married Gladys Myrle Golden b. 9-Sept 1898 d.6-Apr 1977 I have no knowldege of any of the Frantz family I do know that William Harrison Frantz served in WWI and fought in France. Last know address for him was the Vets Hospital in Sanduski, Ohio in 1944. John A? Golden b.1830? married Mary Miller b. 1831. John is as far back as I have gotten on the Golden family Joseph Hughes married Margaret Hyatt. This is the only info I have on these two. Their children were: Emma Leora Hughes who married Arville Adolpus Golden (my great great grandparents) Marry Mamie Hughes who married a Schell. Will Hughes, Elmer Hughes, Phebe Hughes. John E. Hughes married ? Jennie Hughes married a Butler. Nettie Hughes married an Arnold. Ola Hughes married a Hespard. I have some of their grandchildren's names also but will not post right now due to length of this email Clyde Grafton Scovel the second husband of Janice Louise Frantz (my grandmother) Anyone with additional information please contact me as I am pounding my head against this brick wall and getting no where. I know some are probably asking why I dont ask my grandmother who is still living for the info... I HAVE many many times... and dont get much from her. Christi Scove Elizabethtown, KY CHRISTI CHRISTI

I found the neatest thing for your reunion! This company will make logo or coat of arms on cookies for your family reunions and other functions or events. their web site is: http://www.pittsburghcookie.com or you can e-mail them at slheil@pittsburghcookie.com . I loved mine! Carol

I want to wish each & everyone of you a WONDERFUL HOLIDAY SEASON! Carol

Some things never change.....the wish to be 'home for Christmas' and certainly the desire for national peace. I imagine the following sentiments are mirrored by our troops of today, so far from home! Happy Holidays. Sandra. On December 25, 1864, J. C. Williams, 14th Vermont Infantry "This is Christmas, and my mind wanders back to that home made lonesome by my absence, while far away from the peace and quietude of civil life to undergo the hardships of camp, and may be the battlefield. I think of the many lives that are endangered, and hope that the time will soon come when peace, with its innumerable blessings, shall once more restore our country to happiness and prosperity." In a letter to his sister Anna Simpson, Tally Simpson wrote: Dec. 25th My dear sister, "This is Christmas Day. The sun shines feeble through a thin cloud, the air is mild and pleasant, a gentle breeze is making music through the leaves of the lofty pines that stand near our bivouac. All is quiet and still and that very stillness recalls some sad and painful thoughts. The day, one year ago, how many thousand families, gay and joyous, celebrating Merry Christmas, drinking health to absent members of their family and sending upon the wings of love and affection long, deep, and sincere wishes for their safe return to the loving ones at home, but today are clad in the deepest mourning in memory to some lost and loved member of their circle..." "When will this war end? Will another Christmas roll around and find us all wintering in camp? Oh! That peace may soon be restored to our young but dearly beloved country and that we may all meet again in happiness."

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This was part of a featured column in the December 26, 1890 Steubenville Evening Star Newspaper which is at Schiappa Library in book form, and fully indexed or can be viewed on microfilm of the same newspaper. This article is also included in the Winter 1999 Volume 13, Issue 4 of the Jefferson County Lines Newsletter, of the Jefferson County Chapter, O. G. S. - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/ OBSERVANCE OF CHRISTMAS IN STEUBENVILLE, 1830'S Ushered in With the Roar of Games, the Day was Spent in Sports and Social Amusements Christmas is Christmas the whole Christian world over, but its observance in Steubenville in 1830 was a great deal different from that of 1890. Beyond dispute, the Christmas of 1890 was one of the best and most enjoyable ever in the history of the city. They probably thought the same in 1830 but they demonstrated to a different manner. Then it was more like the fourth of July celebration. The merchants made no special effort to sell attractive goods. Gifts were exchanged, but they were mere trifles. Few toys were then made and places like Steubenville did not handle them. Boys and girls were out the day before greeting every person with "Christmas Gift" and were raised to a heaven of delight at the present of a cake, a penny, a sixpence or some sweetmeat. The boys had saved up their pence, but it was to buy powder to raise a grand hurrah with cannons made out of musket barrels. It was a holiday, laid only in so far that men did no work and congregated during the morning at the Red Lion, kept by Squire JENKINSON in the HOIT property on North Third; the Sign of the Ship, kept by Jas. DICK; the Green Tree, kept by Thomas KEHS; the Bush, kept by Mrs. McKINLEY; Washington Hotel with its sign of the Lamb, The Blackbear, and others of the eleven hotels in the town. Here they would "have smuthin" to warm up the cockles of their hearts. It might be matigellum, Armstrong's strong beer, Hobands, Jamaica Rum, a ported Madeira, but was generally straight liquor with hot water and sugar. They would sit around the fire and discuss business or the coming shooting match, raffle or shinny game. Meanwhile the boys and young men were firing Jackson crackers and cannon and the very air was redolent with the smell of burnt powder. The women and girls were busy preparing for a dinner. Turkeys were not then considered such a necessary piece de resistance of a Christmas dinner. Two or three days before, several live bears would be brought to the city and killed; deer was fairly plenty and the game of all sort was in abundance. These were the articles feasted upon sixty years ago. Then there were no Sunday school treats; about the only treat the school boys and girls would get would be when they would lock or bar the teacher out of school and not let him in until he would promise to give them a donation party. A majority of the prominent early settlers were Presbyterians. They were more interested in doctrinal theology and the contest between Calvinism and Armenianism than in giving Christmas any peculiar significance at the present day. There were in 1830 only six churches in the city: The Presbyterian upon the present site of the Third Church and with the late Dr. BEATTY as pastor; the United Presbyterian with Rev. George BUCHANAN as pastor; the Kramer M. E. with Rev. T. M. HUDSON as pastor; the Methodist Protestant, just formed from eighty-one members of the Kramer and with Rev. R. C. HATTON as pastor; the Episcopal church then meeting in the old academy on High Street, with Rev. Intrepid MOORSE as rector, and the A. M. E. The Roman Catholics had no church until two years later, although Father McGRADY did missionary services with Steubenville as one of his stations. So it may be seen that sixty years ago only one church observed the day with any religious exercises, the Episcopal. The shooting matches and shinny game usually began in the morning. For the shooting matches all manner of game, such as deer and wild turkeys, were the prizes. The old time heavy barrelled muzzle loading rifle was used. Steubenville was noted for her expert marksmen and many are living today who will recall the unerring aim of the BICKERSTAFFS, the MYERS, and Barney WINTRINGER. Shinny was played then as now, only instead of boys, men would engage. The shooting matches and other games usually took place in the vacant ground above the present Reliance Engine House, now known as Carroll KELL's addition. The great sport of the day was catching the greased pig. A fine razor backed porker that could run like a deer was captured, shaved and smeared with lard. The man who caught the pig and held it got the pig. Both young and middle aged men entered the lists and what fun the onlookers had: The venerable Wm. RICHARDS, famous both as a butcher and athlete, especially for being a swift runner, made himself still more famous by successfully capturing the pig on several occasions. The men not engaged in the field sports would pitch coppers at a peg and everybody enjoyed the day. But these were not all the amusements. As has been stated before, Steubenville was then a city of 4,000, made up of all classes, but people mingled together with true democratic geniality. Yet there was a class usually denominated as the "nobility" or as we would call them the high social circles. Among the families then looked upon as in the higher social circle were the WELLS, McDOWELLS, COLLIERS, DIKES, MASONS, TAPPANS, WRIGHTS, LARIMERS, HALLOCK, ROBERTS, MEANS, PAGES, ANDREWS, HUTCHINS, GALBRAITHS, SLACKS, HENNINGS, and others. Very seldom was there a green Christmas, and advantage was taken of sleighing to go to Phillipsburg, now Brilliant, Wellsburg, or out to the Forks, at all of which places were excellent hotels or taverns. A messenger would be sent out the day before to notify the landlord of their coming so that a hot supper would be ready upon their arrival. Some would go together to the number of eight or twelve in a big sled, others in double or single sleighs, but it would be a merry party arriving at the tavern. Heavy wraps would hardly be removed when a huge punch bowl filled with steaming hot toddy would be brought in and all partook. The chill taken off, they were ready for a dance, the Virginia reel, the Tucker and the other dances then in vogue. With what zest the old people recall these days when the lights were tallow candles and the music a single old violin! In the intermissions they would gather around the big blazing fires, tell stories, relate amusing experiences. A bountiful supper was spread, as the taverns at all these places were famous for their table. At midnight they were ready for home and with song and jest, away the sleds and sleighs would go and home to bed and pleasant dreams. And we doubt whether they present day can give such pure unalloyed pleasures and enjoyment as they had in 1830. This information is permanently posted at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjefogs/1830Christmas.htm

Please just delete any "ungenealogy mail" that sneaks through rootsweb's filters. I've been forwarding copies of all of the spam type mail we've received on to their abuse system. Wish more people in the world were interested in genealogy...they wouldn't have time for the spamming (grin). Carol

Ann, You can email me directly for costs of back issue newsletters, and YES we do have index copies. The chapter's mailing address to order publications or newsletters: JCC OGS PO Box 4217 Steubenville, OH 43952 Flora VerStraten@Prodigy.Net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Atherton" <asath@earthlink.net> To: <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:35 AM Subject: [OHJEFFER] index > Does anyone who is a member of the Jefferson County Chapter of OGS know if there is an idex to the articles published in their Newsletter: Jefferson County Line Newsletter ? > > Iwould like to order back copies, but would likje to know forst if there are articles pertaining to the BOALS, .FRANCIS or GILLESPIE families. > > > Thanks. > > Ann Atherton asath@earthlink.net >

Does anyone who is a member of the Jefferson County Chapter of OGS know if there is an idex to the articles published in their Newsletter: Jefferson County Line Newsletter ? Iwould like to order back copies, but would likje to know forst if there are articles pertaining to the BOALS, .FRANCIS or GILLESPIE families. Thanks. Ann Atherton asath@earthlink.net

Hello All, Just in case you haven't seen it, here's the link to the Jefferson County, OH's Bicentennial Barn. http://www.ohio200.org/barns/barns/jefferson.asp Oh, . . . . . just to be a young 199 years. Julia

I was wondering if anyone has a copy of this tax list and would you mind looking up Joseph S. Wallace for the years 1830-1832. I appreciate any help with this. Judy Weaver Mark IV Automotive - MRP 731-925-7897

Hello, I hope that you can help me. I am looking for information on Rachel V Quillen who married Loren B Noble. He was born 1924 Carroll Co., OH and died 1997 in Steubenville. That is all of the information that I have. I am following Florence Blazer 1902-1989 who married James Paul Noble 1898-1964. Any assistance will be appreciated. Elizabeth Stookesberry So CA Buckeye

The Ohio Historical Soc, in Columbus has newspapers on film and an online index http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/md/cecil/immigration/nat05221695.txt From: "Kevin & Schannon McCloud" <mccloud2@adelphia.net> To: <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:53 AM Subject: [OHJEFFER] 1926 Obituaries > Does anyone know where I can obtain an obituary for 1926?? Especially since I live in another county...who would be the right people to contact?? > Thank You > Schannon McCloud > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Does anyone know where I can obtain an obituary for 1926?? Especially since I live in another county...who would be the right people to contact?? Thank You Schannon McCloud

I am looking for information on Stella Smith she show's up in the 1900 census with her grandparents Theodore and Annie Smith. Her birthdate is reported as January 1988, father listed as being born in Scotland and mother as being born in Maryland. By 1910 Theodore & Annie are nowhere to be found Stella show's up in another household but I do not have this information in front of me to post with this query. Does anyone connect to this Stella?? The 1900 census was in Steubenville Twp. Jefferson Co.Ohio. I would be so greatful for any help. Thanks Schannon McCloud

Does anyone know of a burial list for Sugar Grove cemetery? Or know the name and number of the person in charge of the cemetery? I am looking for two names: Elijah Crawford, and Elizabeth Crawford. Thanks. Susan Crawford --- --- suec28@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

Just because someone died in "Steubenville" doesn't mean they were buried there... the hospital is located there in that time period you mention. Where is the family member from? Which township or town in Jefferson County? That may lead you in the right direction. How about the obit? Any information concerning funeral arrangements, that may also lead you the way. Flora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin & Schannon McCloud" <mccloud2@adelphia.net> To: <OHJEFFER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: [OHJEFFER] Cemeteries close to Steubenville > Does anyone know what cemeteries are the closest to Steubenville? I believe these one's may be the one;s that contain my Smith's. Family members thinks they are buried in one of them as well. From what information I have on them Theodore and Annie Smith last appeared in the 1900 census. I assume that they died sometime between 1900 and 1920..probably well before 1920. There is a Theodore W Smith that died in 1926 in Jefferson,Steubenville that I believe may be their son. > Their daughter married William Butler and they appear in the 1900 census but we have no birth date for Elizabeth. Would appreciate the help from anyone kind enough to be able to do so. Sorry but this is the only APPROXIMATE dates I have been able to locate. > Thanks > Schannon McCloud > > ______________________________