Just a thought on the maiden name thing, could she have married someone with that name after her husband's death? Perhaps a cousin...that also wouldn't have been so uncommon at the time...Check out the LDS site for her married name to someone of her maiden name... peggy -----Original Message----- From: Kathi and Jim Elliott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Seeking burial site Jane and James JENKINS (1840 and 1885??) Thank you for all the suggestions. The thought of divorce seems unlikely since she was still using the husband's name in two censuses after he died, and then suddenly, 30 years after his death, was using the maiden name. I have wondered if they might have never been legally married, or if she just automatically reverted without thinking about it. (Or if a neighbor gave the information and just used the maiden name... People at my church do that all the time. They'll be telling me about someone and I have no clue who they mean because they are using the maiden names.) Anyway, it's another mystery to solve! If she died after 1867, there should be a death certificate somewhere! Thanks, again, Kathi

Is there a sexton or caretaker of the Horeb Cemetery who would have records of the unmarked graves? If so, how would I reach that person? Thanks, in advance. Kathi

Thank you for all the suggestions. The thought of divorce seems unlikely since she was still using the husband's name in two censuses after he died, and then suddenly, 30 years after his death, was using the maiden name. I have wondered if they might have never been legally married, or if she just automatically reverted without thinking about it. (Or if a neighbor gave the information and just used the maiden name... People at my church do that all the time. They'll be telling me about someone and I have no clue who they mean because they are using the maiden names.) Anyway, it's another mystery to solve! If she died after 1867, there should be a death certificate somewhere! Thanks, again, Kathi

They could be in Horeb, but without stones or the stones have been the victim of vandalizim or old age. If there are extant newspapers in Jackson Co try to find a news article refering to his death. Especially in the columns that are written by a neighborhood correspondent. Obits were rare that far back unless the person was very prominent at the time. Also since she is using her maiden name, don't rule out divorce. Robin Fife ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathi and Jim Elliott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] Seeking burial site Jane and James JENKINS (1840 and 1885??) > Hi, all, > I am still trying to find the place where Jane (Jones) Jenkins and James Jenkins were buried. I know for certain that James was killed by a falling tree in Feb. of 1840. They were settlers in Jefferson Twp., and one of the families that founded Horeb Chapel. Written family history tells me that they are buried at Horeb. When I visited the cemetery a few years back, I could not find their graves. They did not seem to be next to the rest of the family, though there is an older set of tombstones I plan to do an etching of when I return someday. > > I do not know when Jane died. I have found her (using her maiden name!!) in the 1870 and 1880 census. I believe this is her because she is living either next door to or with her sons, David and Edward Jenkins. I cannot imagine why she reverted to the maiden name, though. Any thoughts??? > > Could sks look in the cemetery book for Horeb and see what you might see? If they are not listed, does anyone have another idea? I have found a James and Jane Jenkins buried at Moriah, but instinct tells me that they are possibly not my gr-gr-gr-grandparents. > > Thanks, a lot. > Kathi Jenkins Elliott > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > > >

Divorce. It happened more often than you think. > > From: "Kathi and Jim Elliott" <[email protected]> > Date: 2004/04/13 Tue PM 05:40:12 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] Seeking burial site Jane and James JENKINS (1840 and 1885??) > > Hi, all, > I am still trying to find the place where Jane (Jones) Jenkins and James Jenkins were buried. I know for certain that James was killed by a falling tree in Feb. of 1840. They were settlers in Jefferson Twp., and one of the families that founded Horeb Chapel. Written family history tells me that they are buried at Horeb. When I visited the cemetery a few years back, I could not find their graves. They did not seem to be next to the rest of the family, though there is an older set of tombstones I plan to do an etching of when I return someday. > > I do not know when Jane died. I have found her (using her maiden name!!) in the 1870 and 1880 census. I believe this is her because she is living either next door to or with her sons, David and Edward Jenkins. I cannot imagine why she reverted to the maiden name, though. Any thoughts??? > > Could sks look in the cemetery book for Horeb and see what you might see? If they are not listed, does anyone have another idea? I have found a James and Jane Jenkins buried at Moriah, but instinct tells me that they are possibly not my gr-gr-gr-grandparents. > > Thanks, a lot. > Kathi Jenkins Elliott > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >

Helen, Thank you so much for your informative letter. Will be planning, shortly, to make a trip to Gallia County, concerning methods of keeping records, how to obtain grants, etc. and what has worked for them. At the present time, have been concentrating on ways and means of increasing our local membership in order to accomplish so many things that need to be completed (Ex. Typing the 1930 census records. Have been copying them, myself, from micro-film.) Will make a print-out of your letter, and if acceptable to you, would like to read it at our next genealogy meeting, which will be April 19th, with Judy Aiken speaking on "Learning how to write your family history". Thank you again. Please do not hesitate any suggetions you have, at any time, to improve the Jackson County Genealogy Society. Ruth Ruth H. ----- Original Message ----- From: douglas henry <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Genealogical Records--Ruth > my 2 cents...if you stop to think about it the business and jobs would dry > up if the records are not available.also some people make money doing > lookups . I am sure everybody gains from it. its time to put a little > something back and stop being greedy. genealogy is here to stay. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:51 PM > Subject: Re: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Genealogical Records--Ruth > > > > Ruth, > > > > Congratulations on your new elective office. > > > > Pardon me for butting in on your reguest to Elmer. > > > > Here is one thing you can check on, its about 3 years old, and may have > been corrected. There is a "back" room....maybe on the same floor as the > Register of Deeds or up one floor...where I was directed that the divorce > records (and whatever else is in that category) was stored. They apologized > that it was not organized. At the time, I think?, I mentioned to this list, > that could be something we do. > > > > I was told I was welcomed to go back there. That they just hadn't had > time to organize it. When I looked into the room, it was full of BIG books > (Not labeled as to years or what their contents were. And there were > ladders that went almost up to the ceiling. Putting these books on the > shelf would take at least 2 people---one up and one down. It would be good > to have someone labeling the book "titles" and it would be good to have one > putting the "index" of books into a computer. > > > > Unfortunately, at that time, there would have been room for only a couple > of people because it was all stacked around on the floors, cabinets, chairs, > whatever. There was no way I could have gone through and got the info in > one visit. I "think" I mentioned that to this list. So maybe you can check > if the situation is the same. If so, this is DEFINITELY something the > genealogical society could help with. > > > > Please, let me clarify ONE point. If folks reread my initial letter, to > this list, I was not inferring about "the nice ladies" in the courthouse as > THE problem with Jackson County. Unfortunately, it got very side tracked > and became defensive by some, that the ladies were being criticized, while > the SPACE, PROCESS, POLITICAL issues and LACK of a strategy by Jackson > County to correct and fix the space, preservation and availability of those > records to the public is the main thrust. My heart cries at the records > that are falling apart from repeated zeroxing and lack of good handlng by > the public---(OHS requires white gloves to handle records that old), it's > the attic situation with deterioration and lack of knowing what IS or IS NOT > THERE and the LACK OF JACKSON COUNTY to allow others to assist them > preserve, protect and make those records available for generations to come. > OHS is chartered with this task. Vital REcords in Columbus has just turned > over 5 more years of Deat! > > h Certificates to OHS--Years 1946-1950. These records will be available > for public viewing in about a year...after they are microfilmed and > catalogued. > > > > Yes, Jackson County's problem has occurred over many years (WPA, DAR and > LDS folks weren't allowed to help). Now that I live far away, I can order > copies of Gallia's vital records from the LDS but NOT Jackson County. > Yes,there is a tax problem---but Jackson County can be proactive and apply > for grants. Gallia County does. > > > > Jackson County can organize and raise public awareness to get this done OR > let someone else do it. Those are the issues, not the "nice ladies" at the > courthouse. > > > > Jackson County is BENEFITTING from folks who travel there to get their > ancestry. If "statistics" were taken of folks who visit for genealogical > purposes, you could substantiate how many requests are local, mail and from > out of state. You could ask, in a survey to those who visit the courthouse, > what state they are from, whether they are staying overnight, eating x # of > meals there, etc, etc. Jackson County does NOT realize what an economical > benefit those records present in folks visiting Jackson County. If they > did, they might be able to get local chamber of commerce or someone to > donate space, for a tax writeoff. > > > > For things to change, you EITHER have to turn up the political heat OR > provide an economic benefit. PLEASE reread my initial email. I gave an > example where > > Guilford Co Register of Deeds provides $5 MILLION dollars back to the > County AFTER all of it's expenses are paid for. Granted, Guilford Co, NC is > a lot larger county but those fees can help. Now, I know that Ohio requires > a lot of the $15 to be paid to the state treasury. But keeping the > statistics with a survey (get a college student to do this for school > credit) can substantiate to the STATE the disportionate amount of requests > that Jackson (also Gallia) get because they are the OLDEST counties in the > state. This is what your STATE representatives are for--to get special > appropriations. > > > > Also, try going over to Gallia County (especially if it is your first > time) armed with trying to get a Birth/Death/Divorce/Marriage/Military > records and you will have a totally different and MOST PRODUCTIVE experience > with clerks who cooperate with each other and tell you exactly what they can > and cannot provide. > > > > Good luck Ruth on your new position. Thank you for looking for > constructive things that can be done. Thank you also to Karen for her > involvement. > > > > I look forward to my next visit in town and if there is an organized need > for volunteers, I will help support it. > > > > (The Genealogical Society might want to create a book/phamphlet on how to > prepare for a courthouse visit. You could list what records are available > (years) and which office in the courthouse. Include the GIS office, > address, phone number of the various cemeteries, also let them know about > the $1.00 cemetery map at the library. Maybe you could get the motel, > restaurants to advertise to offset the cost of printing and then advertise > this on websites, library, etc so that folks will come PREPARED for their > first courthouse experience. Also, you could list the dates the counties > were formed and to gently advise folks to look in other counties for their > information if it is prior to this time.) > > > > Hope this is helpful. > > > > Helen > > > > > > > > It would take 3 (or possibly 4) people to SORT, put into some type of > computer index system and then stack those things on the shelf. > > > > > > From: "Ruth Hayth" <[email protected]> > > > Date: 2004/04/12 Mon AM 10:21:27 EDT > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > > > > > > Mr. Thorn, > > > I have just read your letter concerning the problems of obtaining > > > information in Jackson County, OH, in trying to find a person't "roots". > > > Was recently elected as the president of the Jackson County Genealogical > > > Society, and always appreciate any imput to improve methods of finding > > > pertinent information for individuals doing family research in Jackson > > > County. > > > As of this week, I am going to try to set up an appointment with some > of > > > the county personnel that would be able to give us ideas on how the > attic > > > court records could be taken care of. A few years ago, I had spoken to > an > > > employee and was told that shelves were to have been erected, separating > > > each office of the court house, with these dockets. Am certain that > > > individuals that are willing to engage in this project would be willing > to > > > waive any type of liablity insurance that would be involved. > > > Would appreciate any input you might have on this matter. > > > Ruth > > > Ruth H. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Elmer Thorn <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 12:32 PM > > > Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > > > > > > > > > > Richard, if you live close by Jackson maybe the first step is to talk > with > > > > the commissioners and get thier imput as to how they feel about the > value > > > of > > > > these historical records. Then start a grassroots group that will not > > > give > > > > rest until something is done. Yes ,you will get criticsism but don't > let > > > > that stop you. Your ancestors would have never been pioneers if they > > > > listened to the nay voices that will always surround progress. Keep > the > > > > issue hot until action is taken. I suggest finding an organization or > > > > businessmen or a local wealthy citizen that has some influence and > will > > > > help seek a solution to a place for storage of these records. Also > keep > > > > your genealogy group at your right hand. They should be the ones that > can > > > > receive these records. If there isn't a genealogy group there that is > > > active > > > > , form one. Don't let the negative stop you. Some of us out here on > the > > > > skirts will be behind anyone that is trying to preserve history and > our > > > > heritage. Let me know if I can help from a long distance in any way > etc. > > > I > > > > will try to get a letter to the newspapers soon. " Keeping our > history > > > > alive" Et > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "RICHARD LAND" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:58 AM > > > > Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently requested that the Jackson County Probate Clerk send me a > > > copy > > > > of > > > > > my great grandfather's 1831 birth record. The following is her > > > response: > > > > > > > > > > "Our records begin with 1867. The records before that is a toss up. > I > > > > used > > > > > to tell people that they could check in Ross County and then I had > this > > > > > person that came back in here and jumped me good for telling them > Ross > > > and > > > > > they went there and they were not there so from then on I told them > > > > > Columbus, and then I had someone come in and growl at me because > they > > > were > > > > > not in Franklin. So I am not real sure about what to tell you." > > > > > > > > > > She included the mailing addresses for Ross and Franklin County > Probate > > > > > Courts and stated she really hope they can help. > > > > > > > > > > My questions are what about the attic? What should I do next? > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar - FREE! > > > > > http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello, Thanks so much for the note. Any information on improving the arrangement of the Court House books, would certainly be welcome. I believe that there is a Tony Thorne that works at First National Bank in Wellston. Would this be the same one. His wife, Lauren works at the Jackson City library. Thank you again for your reply. Ruth Ruth H. ----- Original Message ----- From: Elmer Thorn <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > Ruth, Congratulations on your new position. Jackson Co is a wonderful area > and very nice people. We visited last year and got aquainted with the > Connie Thorne and Tony Thorne family, which are relatives we never knew > existed. It felt like a homecoming since my Thorn family has been in that > county since abt 1817. Also the Anderson family on my mothers side were > from Jackson Co abt the same time period. I hope lots can be done to > preserve the records that are spoken of in the attic. What I have found is > very few records seem to be in existance inside the courthouse around that > time. Or I wasn't successful in finding them. The staff has been very > helpful though. The county here has made a very large Reords Dept and has > given free reign to the Genealogy Society. They have gone in an indexed and > stored records on shelves that are of easy access . They can find them in > an index and walk right back and pull it from the shelf. I am not totally > aware of how they have done this but could probably get more info if you are > interested. . Again congratulations and good luck in your endeavors. E > Thorn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruth Hayth" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:21 AM > Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > > > > Mr. Thorn, > > I have just read your letter concerning the problems of obtaining > > information in Jackson County, OH, in trying to find a person't "roots". > > Was recently elected as the president of the Jackson County Genealogical > > Society, and always appreciate any imput to improve methods of finding > > pertinent information for individuals doing family research in Jackson > > County. > > As of this week, I am going to try to set up an appointment with some of > > the county personnel that would be able to give us ideas on how the attic > > court records could be taken care of. A few years ago, I had spoken to an > > employee and was told that shelves were to have been erected, separating > > each office of the court house, with these dockets. Am certain that > > individuals that are willing to engage in this project would be willing to > > waive any type of liablity insurance that would be involved. > > Would appreciate any input you might have on this matter. > > Ruth > > Ruth H. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Elmer Thorn <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 12:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > > > > > > > Richard, if you live close by Jackson maybe the first step is to talk > with > > > the commissioners and get thier imput as to how they feel about the > value > > of > > > these historical records. Then start a grassroots group that will not > > give > > > rest until something is done. Yes ,you will get criticsism but don't > let > > > that stop you. Your ancestors would have never been pioneers if they > > > listened to the nay voices that will always surround progress. Keep the > > > issue hot until action is taken. I suggest finding an organization or > > > businessmen or a local wealthy citizen that has some influence and will > > > help seek a solution to a place for storage of these records. Also keep > > > your genealogy group at your right hand. They should be the ones that > can > > > receive these records. If there isn't a genealogy group there that is > > active > > > , form one. Don't let the negative stop you. Some of us out here on > the > > > skirts will be behind anyone that is trying to preserve history and our > > > heritage. Let me know if I can help from a long distance in any way > etc. > > I > > > will try to get a letter to the newspapers soon. " Keeping our history > > > alive" Et > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "RICHARD LAND" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 10:58 AM > > > Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] Records Before 1867 a"Toss Up" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recently requested that the Jackson County Probate Clerk send me a > > copy > > > of > > > > my great grandfather's 1831 birth record. The following is her > > response: > > > > > > > > "Our records begin with 1867. The records before that is a toss up. > I > > > used > > > > to tell people that they could check in Ross County and then I had > this > > > > person that came back in here and jumped me good for telling them Ross > > and > > > > they went there and they were not there so from then on I told them > > > > Columbus, and then I had someone come in and growl at me because they > > were > > > > not in Franklin. So I am not real sure about what to tell you." > > > > > > > > She included the mailing addresses for Ross and Franklin County > Probate > > > > Courts and stated she really hope they can help. > > > > > > > > My questions are what about the attic? What should I do next? > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar - FREE! > > > > http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi, all, I am still trying to find the place where Jane (Jones) Jenkins and James Jenkins were buried. I know for certain that James was killed by a falling tree in Feb. of 1840. They were settlers in Jefferson Twp., and one of the families that founded Horeb Chapel. Written family history tells me that they are buried at Horeb. When I visited the cemetery a few years back, I could not find their graves. They did not seem to be next to the rest of the family, though there is an older set of tombstones I plan to do an etching of when I return someday. I do not know when Jane died. I have found her (using her maiden name!!) in the 1870 and 1880 census. I believe this is her because she is living either next door to or with her sons, David and Edward Jenkins. I cannot imagine why she reverted to the maiden name, though. Any thoughts??? Could sks look in the cemetery book for Horeb and see what you might see? If they are not listed, does anyone have another idea? I have found a James and Jane Jenkins buried at Moriah, but instinct tells me that they are possibly not my gr-gr-gr-grandparents. Thanks, a lot. Kathi Jenkins Elliott --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you

Go to http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjackso/willbka.htm It has the index for Will Book A ----- Original Message ----- From: "joanne gibbs" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Years included in Will Books > I believe that Will Book A covers the early 1800's.

My ancestor listed in Will Book A p. 253 died in 1857.

For those storing their VERY important data on CD for long term records, you should be aware that several tech sources recommend NOT using the sticky CD labels. I personally have decided not to take a chance on losing data faster, so I do not use them directly applied to the CDs. As an alterntive, I mark the top of the Cd with a permanent marker (thin), and make sure that is dry before inserting into a jewel case. Then if you choose, place a sticky label on the "outside" of the CD case. Tests have shown that some CDs have lost their data in as few as 10 years with a sticky labels attached to the face of the CD. The theory is that the composition of the adhesive is penetrating thru the material of the CD, or that the chemicals given off are destroying the data. Considering how photos are destroyed by acidic paper and wood products, it seem plausible. For more detail see... http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2003/2003-11-06.htm#1 http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=15800263 My apologies to anyone who might consider this "off subject", but due to the current line discussion, record storage, I thought this issue was valid. Terri

Charles, Good point about changing technology making data unretrivable...sure which I could retrieve some stuff from a 5 1/2 inch floppy disk I have or some 8 track tapes. OHS has 2 sets of Microfilm. (1) Master copy that they have to remaster, if necessary. (2)And one for the public which gets lots of use. If Jackson Co pays someone to Microfilm documents, those microfilms should be reviewed before final payment because some of the film for early years at OHS are not readable---possibly due to different background lighting for each set of records and not enough adjustment. However, I suspect that camera photography for copying records has changed quite a bit and that should not be a problem but sample checking is still important. Thanks Charles for being understanding regards this topic. If we can help discuss & help solve a problem to preserve our records, this is a good use of the list. One other point, Gallia County did ZEROX their Birth Record #1 and I think one other book, to HELP PRESERVE the originals. Then they make copies for folks off the MASTER ZEROX copy. I think that would help in a couple of the books at Jackson County. I like handling records that are over 150 plus years old but know it's really not in the best interest for longevity of the records. Possibly someone, could look at Birth Record Bk #1 at Jackson County, or whichever one is fraying and growing very dim, and possibly ZEROX it for a MASTER COPY to use for future zeroxing and thus would preserve the original book. Helen > > From: "Charles R. Weese" <[email protected]> > Date: 2004/04/13 Tue AM 09:37:17 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] CD lifetimes, etc. > > This really isn't on-topic, but people seem to want to talk about computer > subjects on all the mailing lists. > > I don't know how long CD-R's or CD-RW's will last and no one really knows > although there have been several accelerated aging tests done. Do some > searching on the Internet. Most quotations that I have seen give anywhere > from 50 years to well over 100 years for a CD-R. CD-RW's are considerably > less reliable and really shouldn't be used for long term storage. They are > fine for routine backups that probably won't be kept for more than a few > years at most. > > The main point that most people never address is the fact that it really > does not matter if they last 100 years. Do you really think the normal > personal computer of 100 years in the future will be able to read a CD? By > that time there will probably have been several generations of storage > media in use. The future will probably belong to some form of crystalline > or solid state storage. Not many people today have the ability to read > media from just 15 or 20 years ago, like 8 inch or 5 1/4 inch diskettes or > cassette tape storage. > > The point is that if you want to keep data alive and usable in the future, > it will have to periodically be copied to new types of media. If that is > not done because of time or money considerations, then the data will be > unavailable even though the old media is still in good condition. > > The best media for preservation has always been acid-free paper. It can > be read by anyone for hundreds of years in the future, but its storage > costs are very high and accessibility is inconvenient. Microfilm has a > good lifetime, but it can deteriorate with age and shows wear and scratches > with usage. Master copies have to be kept under controlled conditions to > periodically replace damaged films and to create copies for new > distribution. This adds expense and inconvenient availability. Of course, > neither paper or microfilm can be electronically searched. > > ======================================== > Charles R. Weese, 4012 Pardee Rd., Stow, Ohio 44224 > > See http://web.raex.com/~cweese/weese/ > and http://web.raex.com/~cweese/vance/ for my family info. > I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: > Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm > Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm > Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm > >

I believe that Will Book A covers the early 1800's. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Years included in Will Books > Lisa, > > I don't know but 1904 is NOT in Will Book A. It would be much later. > > Helen > > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: 2004/04/12 Mon PM 07:11:44 EDT > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] Years included in Will Books > > > > Does anyone know the year span for Will Book A? Also, which book would a will > > from 1904-06 be in? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lisa > > > > > >

Hey everyone, Here is what the experts on Tech TV have found out. As short a time as 4 years ago some experts in the industry decided to start testing cd's for long term storage. The results haven't been very good. The cd's have started to lose their data. So Tech-TV's, show The Screen Savers have suggested that we all take our cd's of data and pictures every year and transfer them to newer cd's. Doing this will save all our data until a stable CD id developed. Now with them saying this, Would you want to put all those records on to today's CD's ? I sure wouldn't. I have been taking their advice and copy my cd's over every year. IF I didn't not only would I be worried about my computer data but all of my digital photos. So this is definitely something to really think about! Cheryl Brandt

Kirk Brandt you are right . microfilm is a better way , under the right conditions it can last over 100 years and more . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Brandt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] Cd' shelf life > Hey everyone, Here is what the experts on Tech TV have found out. As short a > time as 4 years ago some experts in the industry decided to start testing > cd's for long term storage. The results haven't been very good. The cd's > have started to lose their data. So Tech-TV's, show The Screen Savers have > suggested that we all take our cd's of data and pictures every year and > transfer them to newer cd's. Doing this will save all our data until a > stable CD id developed. Now with them saying this, Would you want to put all > those records on to today's CD's ? I sure wouldn't. I have been taking their > advice and copy my cd's over every year. IF I didn't not only would > I be worried about my computer data but all of my digital photos. So this > is definitely something to really think about! Cheryl Brandt > >

Charles is absolutely correct in his solution to storage . the early Egyptians had a good solution and it can be synthetically copied . CD's need to be periodically recopied because of deformity and use over time .it is too new and time untested. Douglas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles R. Weese" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:37 AM Subject: [OHJACKSO-L] CD lifetimes, etc. > This really isn't on-topic, but people seem to want to talk about computer > subjects on all the mailing lists. > > I don't know how long CD-R's or CD-RW's will last and no one really knows > although there have been several accelerated aging tests done. Do some > searching on the Internet. Most quotations that I have seen give anywhere > from 50 years to well over 100 years for a CD-R. CD-RW's are considerably > less reliable and really shouldn't be used for long term storage. They are > fine for routine backups that probably won't be kept for more than a few > years at most. > > The main point that most people never address is the fact that it really > does not matter if they last 100 years. Do you really think the normal > personal computer of 100 years in the future will be able to read a CD? By > that time there will probably have been several generations of storage > media in use. The future will probably belong to some form of crystalline > or solid state storage. Not many people today have the ability to read > media from just 15 or 20 years ago, like 8 inch or 5 1/4 inch diskettes or > cassette tape storage. > > The point is that if you want to keep data alive and usable in the future, > it will have to periodically be copied to new types of media. If that is > not done because of time or money considerations, then the data will be > unavailable even though the old media is still in good condition. > > The best media for preservation has always been acid-free paper. It can > be read by anyone for hundreds of years in the future, but its storage > costs are very high and accessibility is inconvenient. Microfilm has a > good lifetime, but it can deteriorate with age and shows wear and scratches > with usage. Master copies have to be kept under controlled conditions to > periodically replace damaged films and to create copies for new > distribution. This adds expense and inconvenient availability. Of course, > neither paper or microfilm can be electronically searched. > > ======================================== > Charles R. Weese, 4012 Pardee Rd., Stow, Ohio 44224 > > See http://web.raex.com/~cweese/weese/ > and http://web.raex.com/~cweese/vance/ for my family info. > I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: > Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm > Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm > Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm > >

This really isn't on-topic, but people seem to want to talk about computer subjects on all the mailing lists. I don't know how long CD-R's or CD-RW's will last and no one really knows although there have been several accelerated aging tests done. Do some searching on the Internet. Most quotations that I have seen give anywhere from 50 years to well over 100 years for a CD-R. CD-RW's are considerably less reliable and really shouldn't be used for long term storage. They are fine for routine backups that probably won't be kept for more than a few years at most. The main point that most people never address is the fact that it really does not matter if they last 100 years. Do you really think the normal personal computer of 100 years in the future will be able to read a CD? By that time there will probably have been several generations of storage media in use. The future will probably belong to some form of crystalline or solid state storage. Not many people today have the ability to read media from just 15 or 20 years ago, like 8 inch or 5 1/4 inch diskettes or cassette tape storage. The point is that if you want to keep data alive and usable in the future, it will have to periodically be copied to new types of media. If that is not done because of time or money considerations, then the data will be unavailable even though the old media is still in good condition. The best media for preservation has always been acid-free paper. It can be read by anyone for hundreds of years in the future, but its storage costs are very high and accessibility is inconvenient. Microfilm has a good lifetime, but it can deteriorate with age and shows wear and scratches with usage. Master copies have to be kept under controlled conditions to periodically replace damaged films and to create copies for new distribution. This adds expense and inconvenient availability. Of course, neither paper or microfilm can be electronically searched. ======================================== Charles R. Weese, 4012 Pardee Rd., Stow, Ohio 44224 See http://web.raex.com/~cweese/weese/ and http://web.raex.com/~cweese/vance/ for my family info. I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm

Hi Shannon, I would be interested in BOWEN or CULP from the Revolutionary War Soldiers. Thanks. CI -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2004 2:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Pratt - Revolutionary War Soldiers Revolutionary War Soldiers by J.E. Sylvester your welcome Schannon > > From: [email protected] > Date: 2004/04/04 Sun PM 04:39:22 EDT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OHJACKSO-L] Pratt - Revolutionary War Soldiers > > Dear Shannon, > Wow! That's great! Thanks so much! Now what was the name of that source? > Thanks again! > Becky > > ______________________________ This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and or privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed.

Helen - Thank you for your reply. Lisa