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    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Fogarty
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hoosierlady26 Surnames: Fogarty, Brate, Ryan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/935.1008.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Chuck - no idea if we corresponded in past; Patrick Fogarty was my gg-granfather, born 1849 in Cashel, County Tipperary; arrived at age 14 in US. Son of Edmund and Mary (Ryan) Fogarty. Settled in southwest Ohio, then Indiana. Married Delilah (aka Lilah) Brate. Feel free to email me directly - have much more info! Thanks, Penny Hoosierlady26@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    03/27/2015 08:28:27
    1. [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] ohio river valley migration patterns + research methods? (targeting Jones)
    2. Zak Jones via
    3. Hello, I'm looking to learn more about some of my ancestors that traveled from different Eastern states to Missouri and Iowa. For example, I have sources that suggest my paternal line ("Jones", and specifically, Jesse Jones b.1795 in PA) travelled around the 1830's or early 1840's from Pennsylvania to Missouri with his family. Oddly I can't find any information for them prior to their final destinations. Reading this page: [ https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/US_Migration_Rivers_and_Lakes] I can see a logical progression of river routes that my ancestors could have travelled and it seems to make sense given the years involved. I'm wondering how long this route might have taken logistically? What were the means of transportation in these years? What were the logical stopping points? What were the perils involved? What sort of planning was required? What alternate routes were there for migration? And most importantly, what resources might be available to research specific people using these migration patterns? In case it helps, here's my ancestry.com profile for Jesse Jones: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/67935280/person/30213936441 Anyone? ZJ

    01/23/2015 05:24:45
    1. [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Bazel Clark
    2. Betsy Emhuff via
    3. I am searching for information on Bazel Clark who was in the 1810 Kentucky census as having a male child under the age of 10. My 3rd great-grandfather, Presley Clark, would have been under the age of 10 in 1810, and I am wondering if Bazel could be the father of Presley. Presley was born either in 1802, 1803, or 1804, either in Indiana, Kentucky, or Ohio. He got married to his first wife on May 28, 1823, in Floyd County, Indiana. In the 1830 census, he is living in Jeffersonville Township in Clark County, Indiana. In the 1840 census, he is living in Redding Township in Jackson County, Indiana. He last appears in the 1870 census, and is still living in Redding Township in Jackson County, Indiana. I am assuming that Presley passed away sometime after 1870. If anyone can help me with this brick wall on who the birth parents of Presley Clark is, it would greatly be appreciated. Thank you very much! Betsy Emhuff betsyemhuff6010@gmail.com (812) 430-1950

    11/13/2014 01:41:14
    1. [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Presley Clark
    2. Betsy Emhuff via
    3. I am searching for the birth parents of my 3rd great-grandfather, Presley Clark. Presley was born in 1802 in Kentucky – per the 1850 census; 1803 in Indiana –per the 1870 census, and in 1804 in Ohio – per the 1860 census. Presley had four wives: He married Caroline Hendelider on May 28, 1823, in Floyd County, Indiana. (I recently stumbled upon a Caroline Clark who married a Charles Hagan in Jackson County, Indiana, on October 7, 1841, and I am wondering if this was Presley’s first wife, or if it was their daughter). In 1833, he married Eliza Second or Secord in Jackson County, Indiana. (I don’t think Eliza’s last name was Second. I think someone just put that there because she was his second wife. I also can’t find his marriage to Eliza anywhere). He married his third wife, Eveline (Bristow) Coen on October 21, 1858, in Jackson County, Indiana. Last but not least, he married Marcia “America” (Findley) Williams on January 4, 1861, in Bartholomew County, Indiana. Presley first appears in the 1830 census living in Jeffersonville Township in Clark County, Indiana. He appears in the 1840 census living in Redding Township/Jackson County, Indiana. He last appears in the 1870 census, and is still living in Redding Township/Jackson County, Indiana. I am assuming he passes away sometime after 1870. Presley and his second wife, Eliza, had several children: 1. Margaret Clark who was born about 1834 in Jackson County, Indiana. Margaret married James W. Homes on March 25, 1851, in Jackson County, Indiana. She married James W. Brown on March 16, 1869, in Jackson County, Indiana. 2. Cassandra Clark, (you see her name spelled in the various census in various ways, these include: Casdena/Cassandra/Casandra/Cassendra), who was born about 1836 in Jackson County, Indiana. She married John Conrad on April 11, 1878. 3. Samuel T./Tilden Clark, who was born July 10, 1838 in Jackson County, Indiana, and died on June 22, 1881, in Jackson County, Indiana. Samuel married Mahala Jane Tompkins on January 29, 1860. 4. Presley Clark, (my great-great grandfather), who was born about 1842 in Redding Township/Jackson County, Indiana. He drowned in the White River on July 21, 1872, in Jackson County, Indiana. He married Martha Jane Coen on August 23, 1861, in Jackson County, Indiana. 5. Eliza Clark, who was born between 1845 and 1847 in Jackson County, Indiana. She married Thomas or Thompson Hardin on February 1, 1877, in Brownstown, Indiana/Jackson County, Indiana. 6. James Clark, who was born in October of 1847, in Jackson County, Indiana, and died on April 20, 1924, in Brownstown, Indiana/Jackson County, Indiana. 7. Mary Clark, who was born in 1849, in Jackson County, Indiana. 8. George Clark, who was born about 1852 in Jackson County, Indiana, and died March 22, 1876, in Jackson County, Indiana. He married Martha J./Jane (Coen) Clark on August 17, 1874, in Brownstown, Indiana/Jackson County, Indiana. 9. Tommy Clark, who was born about 1854 in Jackson County, Indiana. Presley and his wife, Eveline (Bristow) Coen, had one child, a daughter, Charlotte Clark, who was born in November, 1859 in Jackson County, Indiana, and died May 19, 1878. She married Lafayette Thomas on December 3, 1876, in Brownstown, Indiana/Jackson County, Indiana. *NOTES*: I have somewhat traced some of Presley and Eliza’s children through the censuses. In the 1880 census, Cassandra’s last name is Clark. In the 1900 census, you see her listed as Casander Dancy. Evidently, between 1880 and 1900, she married someone by the last name of Dancy. I can not find a marriage for her and a Mr. Dancy anyplace. I am hoping that someone can help me with this. In the 1910 census, there is a Catharina Clark with James Clark, and the census says it is his sister. I don’t see a Catharina Clark listed as one of Presley and Eliza’s children. Who could this be??? I have also recently stumbled upon a Frederick Hendoliter. I found him in the 1820 census living in Jeffersonville Township in Clark County, Indiana. In 1830 I found him again in Driftwood Township living in Jackson County, Indiana. In the 1830 census, he is listed as Fredrick Henderliter. As you recall, from the first paragraph here, Presley’s first wife’s last name is Hendelider. Caroline was born about 1804, and in 1820 she would have been about 16 years old. In the 1820 census, Frederick has two females between the ages of 10 and 15. She may have been 15 when they took the census. As I stated previously, Presley and Caroline got married in Floyd County, Indiana, on May 18, 1823, and Presley first appears in the 1830 census living in Jeffersonville Township in Clark County; the same township and county as Frederick/Fredrick was living in 1820. Then Frederick/Fredrick shows up in Driftwood Township in Jackson County, Indiana, in 1830, and in 1840 Presley is in Redding Township in Jackson County, Indiana. By 1840, Presley was with his second wife. Sometime between 1830 and 1840, Presley and Caroline went to Jackson County, Indiana. Is it possible that Presley and Caroline followed Frederick/Fredrick to Jackson County, Indiana? Also in the 1820 census there is a John Clark living in Jeffersonville Township in Clark County, Indiana. Maybe he was Presley’s Dad???? Thank you very much!! Betsy Emhuff betsyemhuff6010@gmail.com (812) 430-1950

    11/06/2014 12:36:56
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Voshell/Voshall Research
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mycherieamour Surnames: Voshall Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/380.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello I looking for any information on William P Voshall, George Washington Voshall from Iowa in the 1800's WIlliam served in the Civil War. Bernice Bell Voshall-Duncan was my gr grandmother. I am hoping to trace the Voshall's back to Europe or get any info. on the name. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    07/28/2014 02:12:21
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Steamboat accident on the Ohio in 1824
    2. This book  might help, Ohio River Collection by James T Lloyd -Steamboats Disasters. It's title is also On the Western Waters  Also, Railways And Steamships Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:14:34 AM Subject: Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Steamboat accident on the Ohio in        1824 This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KathyCarney78 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1339.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This tombstone is in Huntington, WV, along the Ohio.   This accident was 1829, but may help someone searching for any information. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvcccfhr/cemeteries/guyandotte/lewis.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/19/2013 07:10:44
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Steamboat accident on the Ohio in 1824
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: keithnuttle Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1339.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have read many accounts of steamboat accidents. They can be found in many of the newspapers that were effected by the accidents. The bigger the loss the more circulation and the longer the stories got. I have seen several in the Fort Wayne Newspapers, and found them in others. If I were looking of a specific accident, I would start checking the newspaper in Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and St Louis. I would also check the large cities in the area like Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, and Columbus where the affects of the accident would be felt. Because of the canals in Indiana and Ohio, the cargoes lost would effect merchants in any town or city receiving cargoes that were on the boat that was lost. This could effect those towns on the larger navigable Rivers in Kentucky, and the areas mentioned. If there was a really large loss, the accidents could also be reported in the commercial sections of the newspapers in New York, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Etc. If there was a really large loss, the accidents could also be reported in the commercial sections of the newspapers in New York, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Etc. Sorry if I can not help with the specific accident. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/10/2013 07:15:36
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Steamboat accident on the Ohio in1824
    2. Nancy & Ted
    3. I realize the message sender may not see this, but I can't read it. Can anyone transcribe this? Nancy -----Original Message----- Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1339.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This tombstone is in Huntington, WV, along the Ohio. This accident was 1829, but may help someone searching for any information. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvcccfhr/cemeteries/guyandotte/lewis.jpg of the message

    10/10/2013 02:39:09
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Steamboat accident on the Ohio in 1824
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KathyCarney78 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1339.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This tombstone is in Huntington, WV, along the Ohio. This accident was 1829, but may help someone searching for any information. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvcccfhr/cemeteries/guyandotte/lewis.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/10/2013 01:14:34
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Weigel's in Washington Co. OH
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shawn_33 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1188.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I assumed my uncle was working a while to look this up for us. But I got on the distant family members that I barely know, and they told me that he passed away. Then because of the damn medical research study I'm in I was called into the hospital a couple times for observation. I wish my tanta hildagard was still alive to talk to her about it. She was my grandma's sister, and her kids Waltraud (wally) and Irene. I have no idea where they're at. They all used to live in Seattle Washington., and then Wally and Irene and their kids moved out here to southern CA. to be with my grandma Waltraud, my mom, and I. One of my grandma's brothers was Eric Schnickmann. He died in WWll. he was training soldiers how to handle grenades. and one malfunctioned, and went off right next to his head. Please take care, and I'm sorry for spelling hildagard wrong. please take care. Shawn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/17/2013 09:10:27
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Thomas Miller Family of Portsmouth, Scioto County, OHIO
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChrisNunner Surnames: Miller, Schroer Classification: death Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1169.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry, I missed this message from 3/2008. Sarah (Sadie) Miller did not die with the birth of her son, George Thomas Schroer, on 7/4/1898 Frankfort, Ky. He lived until 3/21/1979. She died 2/1/1900 from uremic poisoning with the stillborn birth of her second son. They are buried in Greenlawn Cemetery, Portsmouth, OH. Section 9. Her father Thomas Miller and her sister Clara Miller are buried near their graves. Please tell me how I can best send you some other corrections. Chris Nunner cnunner@fuse.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/10/2013 12:56:13
    1. [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] David Miller b. 1787, father of David and Isaac Miller, Pike County Ohio
    2. Jacqueline Gerard
    3. I am looking for ANY information on the elder David Miller, who was born in 1787 in VA and later moved to and lived in Pike County, Ohio.

    07/14/2013 04:36:27
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Ancestors of James Harvey Day
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rddrowley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/268.318/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Herb, You still out there looking for James Harvey and Clementine stuff? Find it already? I have some info. Doug Drowley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    06/19/2013 12:37:39
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Migration along the Ohio River on flat boats
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margepdx Surnames: Bare, Tisher Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/2091.4.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know I would love to hear more about it! I live in Washington state and have never even seen the Ohio River, even though I discovered in the last 20 years that my family lived there for so many generations, and now I can't wait to go. hopefully this fall or next... but would love to hear any updates as it sounds like a few of us have ancestors that made this trip during the early part of the 19th century. Marge Bare Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/28/2013 12:34:16
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Migration along the Ohio River on flat boats
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoEllenFair62 Surnames: Fair, Fehr, Spangler, Maurer, Ivy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/2091.4.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Good morning Marge, Thank you so much for emailing me... it kick started me into doing some more research! I have been very idle for a year....now I am energized! Anyone else in this thread found anything new? My Cincinnati contact never got back with me... I am thinking of making a trip to Cincy and Wheeling and Pittsburgh this summer or fall.... Need some more info before I go though. Anyone? Thanks Jo Ellen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/28/2013 04:47:21
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Migration along the Ohio River on flat boats
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: margepdx Surnames: Bare Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/2091.4.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would love your story. My ancestors came from Frederick, MD or Berkeley Co, VA (now WVa)- still figuring that out, but they settled at what is now Hannibal Ohio and founded Bare's Landing, (changed to Baresville then Hannibal). This area is directly across the Ohio from Wetzel County so would be particularly interesting to read about Lewis Wetzel. The date my ancestors moved is unclear, but i've read they went to Ohio anywhere from 1800-1815. I assume they came by flat boat, as they had all their belongings and several children. They settled in that area for over 100 years. thanks for sharing, i would love to hear personal stories about that adventurous time. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/28/2013 02:36:04
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] grandfather everett chandler 1900s Jackson Ohio area
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hansonsheart62 Surnames: Chandler Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1267.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know much about my grandfather,but at one time he did live in Wellston, Ohio and lived with a George Scurlock when he was a teenager. His aunt was Lena Cartwright and his grandfather was Joseph Cartwright. If this is him please let me know! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/14/2013 08:26:23
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Brumbarger/Indiana
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hoosierlady26 Surnames: Brate, Brumbarger, Sloop Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/935.1009.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have Hiram Sloop Brate as the son of John and Eliza [Brumbarger] Brate, 1843-1921, but I don't find (yet) any other Sloops in either the Brate or Brumbarger line. He was supposedly born in Butler Co., Ohio, and died in Union Co., Indiana; his wife's name was Minerva--. The Brate line may have been in PA; I'm still trying to confirm that, so you may be right that Jacob B. Sloop, b. 1798, could be related. Keep in touch - maybe we'll solve the mystery! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/09/2013 03:23:31
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Brumbarger/Indiana
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 1ancestorhunter Surnames: Sloop, Shute, Howell, Brace Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/935.1009/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for a connection between my ancestor, Hiram Sloop, and the Brate/Brumbarger line. Hiram did have a niece in Logansport, Henrietta Sloop Burch who died around 1851. Henrietta had a son named Hiram Sloop Burch who died as a young child. Hiram had a relative named Jacob B. Sloop born 1798 Redstone, PA. I'm curious if the initial B. could also be Brate or Brumbarger? Hiram 1806-1869 Any information always appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/09/2013 02:12:37
    1. Re: [OHIO-RIVER-VALLEY-FAMILIES] Steamboat accident on the Ohio in 1824
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jdjones124 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.organizations.orvf/1339.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I didn't find answer, but I found this excellent resource on the subject, in case other steamboat researchers pass through this thread. http://genealogytrails.com/ark/greene/SteamboatDisasters.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    04/11/2013 09:48:47