This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: luvzsun Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.unknown/13084.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't believe this is your mother. If I have correctly tracked your maternal grandmother through her 3 marriages and the marriages of your mother's siblings and the numerous mis-spelling of names, then your mother died in Cleveland in 1998. Your mother's mother's maiden name was Goldie MANTHEY. Jennie LEHMAN and William MANTHEY married in Cuyahoga County between August 1900 and April 1901. About 1911 Goldie married George T. GLUTH, about 1923 she married Edward L. TRACHSEL and about 1928 she married Edward ROCK. These 3 marriages produced the following children: Robert GLUTH b ca 1917, d 20 Oct 1968 as Robert W. ROCK Melba GLUTH b ca 1914, d 22 Aug 1953 as Melba MELLENBROOK Alfred GLUTH b ca 1917, d 1 Oct 1979 as Alfred ROCK Goldie GLUTH b ca 1922, d 9 Mar 1978 as Goldie ABRAHAM *Edna TRACHSEL b ca 1925, d 26 Nov 1998 as Edna ZIEGLER As of the 1930 census, Goldie and Edward did not have any children together. Following is Robert Gluth/Rock's obit: Date: Oct 24 1968 Source: Plain Dealer; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #150. >Rock. Robert W., husband of Helen (nee Sampson), beloved father of Georgean Crum, Roberto Naulty, William R., Alfred E., Melba, Terry, Richard and Donald, *beloved son of Goldie M. (nee Manthey) and the late George, brother of Melba Mellonbrook (deceased), Alfred, Goldie Abraham, and Edna Ziegler* and grandfather. Late residence, 1333 W. 76th St. Funeral services Thursday, Oct. 24 at 9:30 a.m. Friends may call at Berry's Funeral Home, 7200 Detroit Ave. Following is Melba Mellenbrook's obit: Date: Aug 25 1953 Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #135 >Mellenbrook, Melba (nee Gluth), beloved mother of Gloria Dell, and Pvt. Kenneth Edward of Germany, *daughter of Goldie M. Rock, sister of Mrs. Goldie Abraham, Mrs. Edna Ziegler, Robert W. Rock, and Alfred E. Rock*, Saturday p. m. at her late residence, 5110 Herman Ave. Services and Interment private. Charles A. Mandley Inc. I believe your mother was born 20 Apr 1924 and died 26 Nov 1998 as Edna ZIEGLER. To get copies of her obit and any other obits, click on this link > http://genref.cpl.org/index.php?q=node/82 Hopefully, this is the correct person. If not, I spent 5 hours needlessly. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.