Not too far at all Jessie, will be more than happy to get the photo for you. Norma Norma/Ohio Victory in Prayer http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VictoryInPrayer/?yguid=617306 Grass Parakeets http://groups.yahoo.com/group/grassparakeets/ "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride!!!"