Nancy, Thanks so much for checking this out, I guess I'm just not going to find these elusive GGGGrandparents. I really appreciate your checking for me. I'll send a contribution anyway as you and your group really help lots of people, and you've helped me in the past. Myrna Singer Casey mybill@msn.com Researching the following: Singer, Underhill, Samsel, Day, May, Swineford, Motter, Bentz, Richard, Mehl, Gristy, McIntosh, Saigaman, Dunn, Stubfors, Bloxham, Personette, Houchins, Hobbs, McDonald, McClellan, Paranto, Webb, Casey