In a message dated 6/1/2004 7:30:00 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Do you happen to know who Israel's father is? I might be able to find him if I had his name or who his mother was. Regards, Cheryl Myers Hi Cheryl...THANKS for your help:-) Here's the little I know on Israel STALEY, born about 1825/26 PA. Married Louisiana (aka Lucy Ann) HELTMAN in Ashland on 3 June, 1827. Children born to this marriage: Joseph, b. 6 Dec 1849; Almyra b. 1851/52; Mary Ann b. 24 Feb 1856; Jeremiah Heltman b. April 1859 (all born in Ashland OH). According to Jeremiah's biography, his father Israel was a "well respected businessman in Ashland, Ohio for many years." I suspect Israel's father MAY have been Joseph as his first born son was so named, BUT Lucy's father was Joseph HELTMAN so they may not have followed "usual" naming patterns! Lucy's parents (Joseph and Catherine HELTMAN) lived in Milton Township for many years. When Lucy died 18 May 1868 she was buried in the Ashland City Cemetery in a lot her parents owned and Israel was NOT mentioned in her obit; also all four of their children were living in the HELTMAN household in the 1870 Federal Census and I have found no sign of Israel ANYWHERE after the 1860 Ohio census!. That is ALL I know of him and he is as far back as we've ever gotten on the STALEY line! If you have any suggestions or sources you would check, I'll be more than grateful:-) Nancy Wood