In a message dated 6/1/2004 10:57:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj:Re: [OHHURON-L] 1840 Federal Census Look Up Help > Date:6/1/2004 10:57:12 AM Eastern Standard Time > From:[email protected] > Reply-to:[email protected] > To:[email protected] > Sent from the Internet > > > > In a message dated 6/1/2004 7:30:00 AM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] > writes: > Do you happen to know who Israel's father is? I might be able to find him if > I had his name or who his mother was. > > Regards, > Cheryl Myers > Hi Cheryl...THANKS for your help:-) Here's the little I know on Israel > STALEY, born about 1825/26 PA. Married Louisiana (aka Lucy Ann) HELTMAN in > Ashland > on 3 June, 1827. Children born to this marriage: Joseph, b. 6 Dec 1849; > Almyra > b. 1851/52; Mary Ann b. 24 Feb 1856; Jeremiah Heltman b. April 1859 (all > born > in Ashland OH). According to Jeremiah's biography, his father Israel was a > "well respected businessman in Ashland, Ohio for many years." I suspect > Israel's > father MAY have been Joseph as his first born son was so named, BUT Lucy's > father was Joseph HELTMAN so they may not have followed "usual" naming > patterns! > Lucy's parents (Joseph and Catherine HELTMAN) lived in Milton Township for > many years. When Lucy died 18 May 1868 she was buried in the Ashland City > Cemetery in a lot her parents owned and Israel was NOT mentioned in her > obit; also > all four of their children were living in the HELTMAN household in the 1870 > Federal Census and I have found no sign of Israel ANYWHERE after the 1860 > Ohio > census!. That is ALL I know of him and he is as far back as we've ever > gotten on > the STALEY line! If you have any suggestions or sources you would check, > I'll > be more than grateful:-) Nancy Wood Hi Nancy, I could find no earlier record of Israel Staley and family than what you describe, but I did find an Israel Staley/Stealey and family in the 1870 and 1880 Federal censuses that might match your Israel Staley. If he is your Israel Staley, then it would seem that he remarried a Phebe J. ___ (after the death of Lucy Ann Staley on 18 May 1868). Details: 1. 1870 Federal Census (Ancestry.com) Name: Israel Staley Age in 1870: 41 Estimated birth year: 1828 Home in 1870: Joliet, Will County, IL Occupation: Physician Birthplace: PA Wife's name: Phebe J. Age in 1870: 36 Estimated birth year: 1834 Occupation: Keeping House. 2. 1880 Federal Census (FamilySearch, and Ancestry.com) Read name, relation, age, birthplace, occupation, father's birthplace, mother's birthplace: Israel Stealey, self, 54, PA, pedler, PA, PA (estimated birth year is 1826) Phebe Stealey, wife, 50, NY, keeping house, NY, NY James Ford, son, 30, NY, at home, NY, NY Princes Ford, daughter, 24, OH, at home, NY, NY Cora Shreffler, daughter, 6, IL, at school, NY, NY. The home of this Stealey family in 1880 was Morris, Grundy County, IL This Israel Stealey (presumed to be the same as Israel Staley in the 1870 Census) seems to match your Israel Staley in terms of birth year and place of birth. If true, it would indicate that both his parents were also born in PA. Perhaps the children here, with the different surnames, are childen of Phebe's from a previous marriage. In comparing the 1870 Israel Staley with the 1880 Israel Stealey, the estimated birth year for the 1870 Israel Staley is a bit off, and the occupation is different (physician vs. pedler), but the birth place is the same (PA).for both. In both 1870 and 1880, the wife's name is given as "Phebe (J.)." Also, from a map. I see Joliet, Will County, IL (residence in 1870) is fairly close to Morris, Grundy County, IL (residence in 1880). I could find no record of an Israel or Phebe Staley/Stealey in the 1890 Census. Your additional details on your Staley family were very helpful in checking the various possibilities. Regards, Ken Shute ([email protected])