Thank you very much, Nancy! Didn't know Rose's husbands name. Now I have it! Lynne nanpare wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynne Wilson" <dennywilson@accesstoledo.com> > To: <OHHURON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 9:08 AM > Subject: [OHHURON-L] Cemetery Lookup Request - Rohrbacher > > > Would someone be so kind as to look up Rose E. ROHRBACHER and family, > > found on page 601 of the Cemetery Inscriptions book? > > > > Many thanks. Lynne > > Hi Lynne, Below are the results of your query. > Huron County, Ohio Cemetery Inscriptions 1997 by the Huron County Chapter of > the OGS. > WOODLAWN CEMETERY, NORWALK TOWNSHIP page 601 > Section 11 - East side of Ave F - Row 9 > 9 ROHRBACHER, Carl H. 1890 - 1943 > Rose E. 1888 - 1974 Wife > > Hope this helps, > Cheers, > Nancy > > If this information has assisted your research, would you consider > sending a donation [sugg. $1. per name] to the Huron County Chapter of the > OGS. They have produced a cemetery book that any chapter could use for an > example. Over 1,000 pages and completely indexed. They do have a copyright > but have graciously put their index on the Huron Web page to make it > available to your research. Mail to:Huron County Chapter/OGS, PO Box 923, > Norwalk, OH 44857-0923 > OHHURON Mailing List > Enjoy your stay in Huron > County, Ohio. See more > Huron County research > at:http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron > > > > > > ==== OHHURON Mailing List ==== > > Enjoy your stay in Huron County, Ohio! > > See more Huron County research at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron > > > > ==== OHHURON Mailing List ==== > SEARCH the OHHURON-L "archives". > All past posts to the mailing list can be found at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type OHHURON in the box. > Then search on any keyword(s) you wish.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynne Wilson" <dennywilson@accesstoledo.com> To: <OHHURON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 9:08 AM Subject: [OHHURON-L] Cemetery Lookup Request - Rohrbacher > Would someone be so kind as to look up Rose E. ROHRBACHER and family, > found on page 601 of the Cemetery Inscriptions book? > > Many thanks. Lynne Hi Lynne, Below are the results of your query. Huron County, Ohio Cemetery Inscriptions 1997 by the Huron County Chapter of the OGS. WOODLAWN CEMETERY, NORWALK TOWNSHIP page 601 Section 11 - East side of Ave F - Row 9 9 ROHRBACHER, Carl H. 1890 - 1943 Rose E. 1888 - 1974 Wife Hope this helps, Cheers, Nancy If this information has assisted your research, would you consider sending a donation [sugg. $1. per name] to the Huron County Chapter of the OGS. They have produced a cemetery book that any chapter could use for an example. Over 1,000 pages and completely indexed. They do have a copyright but have graciously put their index on the Huron Web page to make it available to your research. Mail to:Huron County Chapter/OGS, PO Box 923, Norwalk, OH 44857-0923 OHHURON Mailing List Enjoy your stay in Huron County, Ohio. See more Huron County research at:http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron > > > ==== OHHURON Mailing List ==== > Enjoy your stay in Huron County, Ohio! > See more Huron County research at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron >

Would someone be so kind as to look up Rose E. ROHRBACHER and family, found on page 601 of the Cemetery Inscriptions book? Many thanks. Lynne

In a message dated 10/29/00 5:14:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, coleen@deanappraisal.com writes: << Subj: hcc lookup Date: 10/29/00 5:14:11 PM Eastern Standard Time From: coleen@deanappraisal.com (Coleen Handlon-Shaull) To: kwsroots@aol.com ('kwsroots@aol.com.') Ken, can you look for CROW in the marriage index for Huron County. I have Robert, Ira, George, Franklin, Rachel, Mary Delphine, Sarah. All between 1840's and 1900. In tne Norwich area. Coleen Michigan >> HI Coleen, Here are the only CROW marriages I could find in which the first names matched those of the ones you gave. They come from our Huron County, Ohio Marriages, 1815-1900, by Scheuer Publications, 1992. George CROW m. Clarinda Jan ELLSWORTH 28 Apr 1847. Frank CROW m. Loentha SKINNER 14 Feb 1874. Mary CROW m. Alexander MORRISON 3 Jul 1872. Rachael CROW m. Allen ELLSWORTH 27 Aug 1861. Regards, Ken Shute (kwsroots@aol.com).

I am seeking Descendants of Francis William Bacon, who was in the Civil War. He enlisted at Norwalk. He died at Graysville, Tennessee, March 11, 1901. John Rutherford __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/

----- Original Message ----- From: Brant & Loni Edwards To: nanpare@accnorwalk.com Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 11:18 AM Subject: HCC lookup cemetery book Hi Nancy, I am looking for information on my great great Grandparents: Samuel S. or M. Thorley (d.4/27/1886 ) and his wife Cornelia Francis Morehouse Thorley who resided in Norwalk, Huron Co., until their deaths. Thank you very much! Loni Edwards bledwards@myfamily.com PS Do you know who I would contact from the Huron Co. Website about Birth Records? Hi Loni, Below you'll find four listings for THORLEY in HCCI. After my signature, there will be an address for the Huron County web page which will give you suggestions for people who do look ups. WOODLAWN CEMETERY, NORWALK TOWNSHIP page 577 Section 4 - Ave A - Row 14 6 THORLEY, Cornelia w/o S.M. THORLEY 1839 - 1899 Mother 7 THORLEY, Samuel M. 1837 - 1886 Father Section 8 - Ave B to Ave G - Row 1 [same cemetery] 21 THORLEY, Carrie 1866 - 1957 Edward 1866 - 1927 Hope this helps. Cheers, Nancy If this information has assisted your research, would you consider sending a donation [sugg. $1. per name] to the Huron County Chapter of the OGS. They have produced a cemetery book that any chapter could use for an example. Over 1,000 pages and completely indexed. They do have a copyright but have graciously put their index on the Huron Web page to make it available to your research. Mail to:Huron County Chapter/OGS, PO Box 923, Norwalk, OH 44857-0923 OHHURON Mailing List Enjoy your stay in Huron County, Ohio. See more Huron County research at:http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron

----- Original Message ----- From: David & Cindy Smith To: nanpare@accnorwalk.com Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 5:11 PM Subject: cemetery look ups Hi, I am looking for any Hollis family members that lived near Sandusky in the mid to late 1700's. Anything would be helpful. thanks david smith Hi David, There are over thirty listings of HOLLIS in the HCCI. Could you send first names of who you are looking for? You can find the index to HCCI on our Huron site at: See more Huron County research at:http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron Cheers, Nancy

----- Original Message ----- From: "Coleen Handlon-Shaull" <coleen@deanappraisal.com> To: <nanpare@accnorwalk.com> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: hcc lookup cemetery book > Nancy, I found some of my family in a Huron County cemetery book. > > Can you look up and see if there is cemetery inscriptions for these CROW > folks of mine, or tell me where I can write for them. > > The following is from the book with the page numbers. My Crows were in > Norwich area, and then later some descendants went to Licking county, Utica > Village area. > > LUCENAH, 136 > ROBERT, 136 > DELPHENE, 136 > > > FRANK M, 385 > LOENTHA, 385 > > > > > The last 3 names, I don't know if they are mine or not. > > JOHN, 137 L, 395 > MARY, 409 > MARY A, 425 > > Thanks for any help, > > Coleen > Michigan Hi Coleen, Here is what I found in the Huron County, Ohio Cemetery Inscriptions 1997 by the Huron County Chapter of the OGS. STEUBEN CEMETERY, GREENFIELD TOWNSHIP page 136 Section 1 - Row 8 41 CROW, Lucenah his wife d. 5 Apr 1882 age 61y 5m 2d CROW, Delphene buried at Warsaw, Ind. 1847-1869 CROW, Robert d. 18 Apr 1867 age 76y 9m 19d Section 1 - Row 9 [page 137] 34 CROW, John d. 20 Apr 1855 - 37y 4m 2d MAPLE GROVE CEMETERY, NEW HAVEN TOWNSHIP page 385 Section Q - Row 7 1 CROW, Frank m., 1854 - 1928 Loentha, his wife, 1854 - 1910 2 CROW - Father 3 CROW - Mother NEW HAVEN CEMETERY, NEW HAVEN TOWNSHIP PAGE 395 Row 13 22 CROW, Harry s/o F.M. & L. CROW d. 18 Aug 1877 DAY CEMETERY, NEW LONDON TOWNSHIP page 409 Row 5 43 CROW, Lewis J., d. 6 Nov 1849 age 23y 11m 10d 44 CROW, William, d. 16 Feb 1867 age 81y 10m 5d Mary, wife of William CROW, d. 15? Aug 1850 age 60y 2m; Father & Mother [stone by Gorrell & Co., New London] GROVE STREET CEMETERY, NEW LONDON TOWNSHIP page 425 Section 2 - Row 1 14 MORRIS - "C" lot marker, perhaps for CROW? 15 MORRIS, W. Irving 1856 - 1940 Mary A. CROW 1858 - 1935 16 MORRIS "Mother" 17 MORRIS "Father" Whew!! I think that is it. Hope it helps. Cheers, Nancy If this information has assisted your research, would you consider sending a donation [sugg. $1. per name] to the Huron County Chapter of the OGS. They have produced a cemetery book that any chapter could use for an example. Over 1,000 pages and completely indexed. They do have a copyright but have graciously put their index on the Huron Web page to make it available to your research. Mail to:Huron County Chapter/OGS, PO Box 923, Norwalk, OH 44857-0923 OHHURON Mailing List Enjoy your stay in Huron County, Ohio. See more Huron County research at:http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron > >

Forwarded from another list: You only thought you were confused before. If a reference is made to a person having been born in Virginia as early as 1728 or as late as 1863, it could mean that he or she was born in any part of: Illinois from 1781 to Statehood in 1818; Indiana from 1781 to Statehood in 1816; Kentucky from 1775 to Statehood in 1792; Maryland from 1775 to Statehood in 1792; North Carolina from 1728 to 1799; Ohio from 1778 to Statehood in 1803; Pennsylvania from 1752 to 1786; Tennessee from 1760 to 1803; or all of West Virginia from 1769 to 1863. Mary McG in Tennessee

> Hello List, > Where can I find Information on a minister for Huron Co. ?? > and also if the person died at the old shady line home here in Huron > Co. OH, Where are the records kept at ?? > and what kind of Information will I find in these records?? !!!!!!!!!"NOTICE"!!!!!!!!!!!!! NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: Lee@neo.rr.com OLD address: reilly@accnorwalk.com Thank You and Happy Hunting. MRS. LEE REILLY

You might check burial records kept by churches or in church directories. Most church records would have a list of previous clergy. By looking at marriage records you could find who they may have read the vows for. Cindi's list has the following: Christianity.Net Church Locator - Ohio http://www.christianity.net/cgo/location.exe? Church Online!- Ohio http://www.churchonline.com/usas/oh/oh.html Church Profiles - Ohio http://www.church-profiles.com/oh/oh/html Churches of the World - Ohio http://www.churchsurf.com/churches/Ohio/index.htm Good luck! I have not tried any of these sites. The online version of Cindi's list may have some additonal ones as my paper copy is dated 2000. I think she updates the online version regularlyl. Mary Bow ----- Original Message ----- From: "MRS.LEE REILLY" <Lee@neo.rr.com> To: <OHHURON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:53 PM Subject: [OHHURON-L] Minister & Shady Line Home ???? > > Hello List, > > Where can I find Information on a minister for Huron Co. ?? > > and also if the person died at the old shady line home here in Huron > > Co. OH, Where are the records kept at ?? > > and what kind of Information will I find in these records?? > > !!!!!!!!!"NOTICE"!!!!!!!!!!!!! > NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: Lee@neo.rr.com > OLD address: reilly@accnorwalk.com > Thank You and Happy Hunting. > MRS. LEE REILLY > > > > ==== OHHURON Mailing List ==== > You want to see what other mail lists are available? Go to: > http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > >

Thank you, everyone, for all your words of wisdom on this issue. Sincerely, Dianne L. Springer-Fulton Proud member of NGS, OGS, Huron County Chapter of OGS

In a message dated 10/29/00 10:46:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, dfulton@hmcltd.net writes: << Subj: [OHHURON-L] Copyright Laws? Date: 10/29/00 10:46:46 AM Eastern Standard Time From: dfulton@hmcltd.net (Dianne L. Fulton) Reply-to: dfulton@hmcltd.net (Dianne L. Fulton) To: OHHURON-L@rootsweb.com Fellow Listers, Recently, I acquired a book titled "The Ohio Hundred Year Book, 1803-1902." Question, would it be infringing on copyright laws to post some of the info?" Thanks, Dianne L. Springer-Fulton Proud member of NGS, OGS, Huron County Chapter of OGS >> Hi Dianne, If the book you cite was published before 1923, it would seem that it has passed into the public domain, according to the following table on the duration of copyright protection (web site last updated 10/09/99). There's a bunch of web sites on the internet that deal with copyright law. This table was taken from one of them. You might want to check some others, however, just to raise your comfort level (or discomfort level as the case might be, fighting your way through all the underbrush of legalese). As another means of trying to check this out, I called the Library of Congress, Copyright Public Information Office (202-707-3000) and was told that as a general rule, if a work is published over 75 years ago, it is now in the public domain. This office has no toll free number, but for general information you can email them at copyinfo@loc.gov. Regards, Ken Shute (kwsroots@aol.com). WHEN WORKS PASS INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN Includes material from new Term Extension Act, PL 105-298 DATE OF WORK / PROTECTED FROM / TERM Created 1-1-78 or after / When work is fixed in tangible medium of expression / Life + 70 years1 (or if work of corporate authorship, the shorter of 95 years from publication, or 120 years from creation2 Published before 1923 / In public domain / None Published from 1923 - 63 / When published with notice3 / 28 years + could be renewed for 47 years, now extended by 20 years for a total renewal of 67 years. If not so renewed, now in public domain Published from 1964 - 77 / When published with notice / 28 years for first term; now automatic extension of 67 years for second term Created before 1-1-78 but not published 1-1-78, the effective date of the 1976 Act which eliminated common law copyright / Life + 70 years or 12-31-2002, whichever is greater Created before 1-1-78 but published between then and 12-31-2002 / 1-1-78, the effective date of the 1976 Act which eliminated common law copyright Life + 70 years or 12-31-2047 whichever is greater 1 Term of joint works is measured by life of the longest-lived author. 2 Works for hire, anonymous and pseudonymous works also have this term. 17 U.S.C. § 302(c). 3 Under the 1909 Act, works published without notice went into the public domain upon publication. Works published without notice between 1-1-78 and 3-1-89, effective date of the Berne Convention Implementation Act, retained copyright only if, e.g., registration was made within five years. 17 U.S.C. § 405. Notes courtesy of Professor Tom Field, Franklin Pierce Law Center LOLLY GASAWAY Last updated 10-9-99 .

I have been a subscriber to Ancestry.com for quite awhile and have found it very worthwhile. I added the extra for the census images and I'm quite impressed. So far, only 1790, but the rest are coming. I have already found and printed the images with some of my family in CT. It's very good. Crystal At 03:54 PM 10/29/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi All, >Is anyone here subscribed to Ancestry? Their yearly rate is $59 something. >They are offering actual images of the federal census for a reduced rate >until Nov 3rd. >My question is - Do you feel that you are getting your money worth AND are >the census images printable and/or downloadable? Can you enlarge then, >clean them up etc??? > > > >==== OHHURON Mailing List ==== >Join and support RootsWeb, home of the Huron County, Ohio list and many >other genealogy lists and resources - go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/ >

I got a call from ancestry as well and they told me 29.95 or something like that and that was for the census. I just reordered and my total was 85.95 that was the cheapest and it was for more than what I paid last year. I even joked with the guy and said I order this but I never find anything on my family. Norma Searching: BRANT, BRANDT, SCHENK, GOOD, OLLER, FALLON, KRYNOCK, HERBER, DAVIES/DAVIS, WATKINS, WILLAMS, CLAUBAUGH, WOODFORD <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Falls/7965/cemlistp.htm">Click here: Old Bones Main Page</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhuron/">Click here: Huron County Ohio Genealogy</A> <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~oherie/">Click here: ERIE County, OHIO, Homepage of the GENWEB Project,</A>

Your posting was very educational, and I thank you. Mary in Tx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Errol Cross" <ecross@siteconnect.com> Subject: RE: [OHHURON-L] migration routes > Actually the reason was land. While your ancestors may not have purchased > land when they arrived in Huron Co., they needed support from those that > did. > > My research centers around Washington, Essex, Erie, and Clinton Co., NY and > Rutland Co., VT. But I understand that the conditions in most areas of New > York were the same. > > The land in New York was quite shallow, especially the land in Upstate New > York. By the 1830's the land in Washington Co would not grow grain without > "manuring". > > The Erie Canal opened the interior of the country. Grain and Wool could be > grown in Ohio, IL, WI and other places and shipped to the east coast cheaper > than it could be grown there. > > In addition there were new breeds of sheep that came from England that > produced finer wool. The demand for course wool fell and the farmers that > produced it could not sell it. The new breeds were expensive and not > available in the New York interior. > > With the invention of the Cotton Gin, Cotton began to over take the wool > industry. Even the way wool was spun changed from hand spinning and weaving > to mechanized spinning and weaving. In the 1820's farmer could buy a couple > of spinning wheels and hire the local women and children to make cloth for > him. By the 1850's, he had to set up a factory. With all the other changes > this was impossible. > > Then there were the Irish. Living in Ireland was tough. So when the > immigrants came to the US, they would work for less pay then the locals > would. Because they did not make much, they didn't spend much on things > other than food. The Poor House rolls reflect the increase in Irish > population. So not only did they work for less, but when they could not > support them selves, they lived off of the locals. > > I am not sure that the economists consider it a depression, life in New York > State was depressed. > > Farmers left for the Midwest in large numbers. Some with free land from the > Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. Some to Cheap land ($1 an acre during > the time when farm land in Washington Co., NY was selling for $10 an acre). > When the farmers left, there was no one for the shop keepers to sell to, so > they followed the farmers. > > When the farmers and the shop keepers left, support people like accountants, > lawyers, doctors, even government employees had to. > > As the population grew in the Midwest, the need for transportation grew. > Canals, Railroads, and highways were developed. Canal Contractors and > Maintenance people came from Northern New York. Railroad and Highway > builders came from all over NY, PA, and VT. > > Once the Canals were dug, boat builders were needed. After the railroads > were built, Engineers, Rail Yard People, Conductors, and other support > people were needed. As the Highways were completed more wagon builders were > needed. > > These folks ate, they sat in chairs, and walked in shoes. So you see, even > if your folks did not buy land when they got to Huron Co, land was the > reason they came. > > Errol and Valerie Cross > Home Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ecross/Index.htm

Errol & Valerie.... Thank you so much for that perfect answer. I think you are absolutely correct in your summation of the migration pattern. I kept thinking land or something big drew them to Ohio but they never bought any land. Following the land purchasers makes perfect sense especially since they were leaving depression type times in N.Y. Thank you very much for your response. Pat << Actually the reason was land. While your ancestors may not have purchased land when they arrived in Huron Co., they needed support from those that did. My research centers around Washington, Essex, Erie, and Clinton Co., NY and Rutland Co., VT. But I understand that the conditions in most areas of New York were the same. The land in New York was quite shallow, especially the land in Upstate New York. By the 1830's the land in Washington Co would not grow grain without "manuring". The Erie Canal opened the interior of the country. Grain and Wool could be grown in Ohio, IL, WI and other places and shipped to the east coast cheaper than it could be grown there. In addition there were new breeds of sheep that came from England that produced finer wool. The demand for course wool fell and the farmers that produced it could not sell it. The new breeds were expensive and not available in the New York interior. With the invention of the Cotton Gin, Cotton began to over take the wool industry. Even the way wool was spun changed from hand spinning and weaving to mechanized spinning and weaving. In the 1820's farmer could buy a couple of spinning wheels and hire the local women and children to make cloth for him. By the 1850's, he had to set up a factory. With all the other changes this was impossible. Then there were the Irish. Living in Ireland was tough. So when the immigrants came to the US, they would work for less pay then the locals would. Because they did not make much, they didn't spend much on things other than food. The Poor House rolls reflect the increase in Irish population. So not only did they work for less, but when they could not support them selves, they lived off of the locals. I am not sure that the economists consider it a depression, life in New York State was depressed. Farmers left for the Midwest in large numbers. Some with free land from the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. Some to Cheap land ($1 an acre during the time when farm land in Washington Co., NY was selling for $10 an acre). When the farmers left, there was no one for the shop keepers to sell to, so they followed the farmers. When the farmers and the shop keepers left, support people like accountants, lawyers, doctors, even government employees had to. As the population grew in the Midwest, the need for transportation grew. Canals, Railroads, and highways were developed. Canal Contractors and Maintenance people came from Northern New York. Railroad and Highway builders came from all over NY, PA, and VT. Once the Canals were dug, boat builders were needed. After the railroads were built, Engineers, Rail Yard People, Conductors, and other support people were needed. As the Highways were completed more wagon builders were needed. These folks ate, they sat in chairs, and walked in shoes. So you see, even if your folks did not buy land when they got to Huron Co, land was the reason they came. Errol and Valerie Cross Home Page http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ecross/Index.htm >>

Thank you so much for that suggestion but that doesn't seem to be the case for my family. Hadley was a shoemaker Wyatt was a Grocer Streeter was a chair maker Unless I'm mistaken, the above professions don't see in keeping with railroad work. Thanks again, I'll take any and all ideas !! Maybe they were just looking for something new and better and the decided to get off the train in Norwalk??!! Pat << Hi Pat, The one thing that seems to keep pulling people in my ancestry is the Railroad. Especially that time period. The RR provided jobs, and so many of my people that moved to the area [Huron, Galion, Ashland, etc] moved here following RR jobs. > >>

I subscribe to Ancestry and they do have the 1910 index on line now plus the census for 1790. They have said they hoped to have all the records by the end of the year. I am really hoping they do and that they are as easy to use. What I have noticed is that you can track families through the indexes just by typing in surnames rather than trying to track down each family state by state and sometimes not knowing that they left the state or died. It will really be worth the extra money for me. Connie

It's a guess, but, how about the regular reasons? To get far from the crowd, cheaper land, personal financial problems? Rebecca USER272272@aol.com wrote: > I have quite a bit of family that went from New York State to Norwalk, Ohio. > > The Hadley's in 1840-1850 from Onondago Co., NY > > The Streeter's in 1840 from NY > > The Wyatt's in 1840 from NY > > Does anyone know what drew these people from NY state to Huron Co., Norwalk, > Ohio ?? > > I also have the Hamilton's who went from Pa. to Norwalk about the same time. > None seemed to have bought land but there must have been a reason they all > ended up in Norwalk. > > Thanks in advance for any help, Pat > > ==== OHHURON Mailing List ==== > SEARCH the OHHURON-L "archives". > All past posts to the mailing list can be found at > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type OHHURON in the box. > Then search on any keyword(s) you wish.