Hi Bea, While doing some research in census today I discovered this info. Find it interesting that all 4 families are listed right after each other. 1830 Holmes Co. OH Salt Creek Twp pg 301 Jacob Gwin males 1 under 5 2 -5-10 1-30-40 females 1 under 5 1-5-10 1-15-20 1-30-40 James Gwin males 2under 5 1-20-30 females 2-5-10 1-15-20 1-20-30 Elizabeth Mattocks males 2- uner 5 1- 10-15 1-15 -20 2-20-30 females 2-5-10 1-15-20 1- 40-50 Margaret Mattocks no males listed females 1- under 5 1- 4-10 1-20- 30 There has to be some connection. Rick