Hi, I haven't written to the list in a while but am researching to DOUGAN (DUGAN) family from Killbuck Township. I have located the sister (Margaret DOUGAN) to my husband's 5x's ggrandmother (Catharine MCCLELLAND DOUGAN) in the 1850 District #75, Killbuck Township census. In the 1850 census, Margaret Dougan is age 75, she states that she was born in New Jersey, and she is living with her son, William DOUGAN (age 33, born PA), wife Ester (age 33, born PA), children Margaret (age 6), Sarah (age 5), James P. (age 2) and Elizabeth (infant). A Robert C. Dougan (age 15, born PA) is also living with the family. In the 1860 census, Margaret Dougan does not appear, leading me to believe that she died between 1850 and 1860. I would dearly love to find any information about her death as it would help me with my research. Were there any cemetaries in existence at that time in Killbuck Township where she may be buried? This family is from Fayette County, PA--Margaret Dougan's husband, Robert purchased land in Holmes County before his death in 1834. Any help with this family or any direction you could point me to research would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you so much! Best Regards, Alison Bigbee

I'm not up to translating the whole page, but it concerns the local Fool's Guild, which is mainly organized to celebrate Mardi Gras (which the Germans call Fasnacht). As part of their celebration, they do a small re-enactment of the events already described by a previous poster. The proper translation for Weibertreu is probably "wifely devotion". Stan Wrobel -----Original Message----- From: Bob Strock [mailto:bostrock@zoominternet.net] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:00 PM To: OHHOLMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHHOLMES] Re: Winesburg, OH/Weinsberg, Germany If I could read German then maybe this site would tell you and me. <g> http://home.t-online.de/home/nz-haslach/chronik.htm Bob Strock Clarkkeith@aol.com wrote: > > So what does Weibertrue mean? > > Keith Clark > > Rittman, OH > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

If I could read German then maybe this site would tell you and me. <g> http://home.t-online.de/home/nz-haslach/chronik.htm Bob Strock Clarkkeith@aol.com wrote: > > So what does Weibertrue mean? > > Keith Clark > > Rittman, OH > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

My German dictionary gives: Weiber = wife, woman; treu = faithful, loyal. The German language is notorious for compounding words, and this makes a logical definition to fit the story that Bob Strock posted. Justin Long justinlng1918@mindspring.com

So what does Weibertrue mean? Keith Clark Rittman, OH

The fortress of Weinsberg was besieged in a war between the Welfs and Waiblingers and the hilltop fortress had to surrender to Konrad III of Hochenstauffen in 1140. Konrad granted that the women in the besieged fortress could carry out their most precious possessions, so they carried their husbands out of the fortress. Konrad kept his word so the men were spared too. This event is still dramatized in the autumn Festival in Weinsberg, Germany. Bob Strock Cindy wrote: > > Thanks to Bob Strock and Patricia Fry Huston for confirming my hunch! > > Now WHAT does "Weibertreu" mean? > > Cindy Kimes > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

Thanks to Bob Strock and Patricia Fry Huston for confirming my hunch! Now WHAT does "Weibertreu" mean? Cindy Kimes

In the Holmes County History 1985 is found. Soon a town meeting was held for the purpose of selecting a name for the village. Dr. Scheurer suggested the name of "Winesburg" after the historical Weinsburg in Wuertemberg, Germany, renowned for its "Weibertreu." ... ... Finding in Winesburg a congenial people, many settled here. Letters written from the settlers in the newly settled America were sent to friends and retatives in Germany and Switzerland telling of the opportunities and adventures of "frontier life," ... Bob Strock Cindy wrote: > > >From what I've found my HORINEs/HOREINs were from near Heilbronn, > Germany which is in northern Wüerttemberg. > > At a recent workshop, I picked up a map of northern Wüerttemberg and > near the city of Heilbronn was another smaller town/city called > Weinsberg. My question..... does anyone know how Winesburg, OH came to > be called Winesburg? Was it named after its counterpart in Germany? Did > the Weinsberg church in Germany send some of their congregation to Ohio? > > The reason I'm thinking this MAY be how Winesburg, Oh got its name is > that my ancestors came directly from that same area of Germany described > to the Winesburg, OH area and settled in Paint Twp. It's just TOO > coincidental that my ancestors lived near towns with such similar names, > one being in the "old country" and one, in the "new world!" > > Any thoughts? > Cindy Kimes > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

I recall a book devoted to Winesburg at both the Wayne and Holmes Co Libraries. I'll bet there is an answer there. -Jennifer ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Flinner, Jr. To: OHHOLMES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [OHHOLMES] Winesburg, OH/Weinsberg, Germany Hello Cindy, I too, have seen Weinsburg, Germany on the map. I would be surprised if Winesburg, OH is not named for this German village. It seems to me that it was spelled (or at least I have seen it spelled) in the old days Weinsburg (OH, that is). I do not know when or why the spelling was changed. and I do not recall the sources of the spelling. Larry ----Original Message---- >From what I've found my HORINEs/HOREINs were from near Heilbronn, Germany which is in northern Wüerttemberg. At a recent workshop, I picked up a map of northern Wüerttemberg and near the city of Heilbronn was another smaller town/city called Weinsberg. My question..... does anyone know how Winesburg, OH came to be called Winesburg? Was it named after its counterpart in Germany? Did the Weinsberg church in Germany send some of their congregation to Ohio? The reason I'm thinking this MAY be how Winesburg, Oh got its name is that my ancestors came directly from that same area of Germany described to the Winesburg, OH area and settled in Paint Twp. It's just TOO coincidental that my ancestors lived near towns with such similar names, one being in the "old country" and one, in the "new world!" Any thoughts? Cindy Kimes

Hi, For all of those interested in the naming of Winesburg here is what I have copied from one of my books. I also originate from Holmes County and have some information from there. Here is what I scanned from one of my books <<<<< HOW THE TOWN WAS NAMED >>>>>>> The town having been laid out, a town meeting was called for the purpose of giving it a suitable name. At this meeting Dr. August Scheurer suggested the name of Weinsberg in honor of Weinsberg, Wuertemberg, Germany, noted for its heroic and faithful women. These women, when once their native village was besieged, begged of the besieging general only one request, that is, to be allowed to take with them their most costly treasure, which on being granted, they immediately carried their husbands safely out of the town of Weinsberg, ever after known in history because of its "Weibertreu," The spelling was changed to Winesburg by the United States postal authorities in 1833, when a Post Office was established.>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of My ancestors are SNYDER(SCHNEIDER) SMITH (SCHMIDT) FRY PAINTER SCHARR Hope this will help on the naming of the town. Pat Patricia Fry Huston Holmes,Wayne, Carroll,Tuscarawas, & Stark County Ancestors -----Original Message----- From: Cindy [mailto:ckimes@mvillage.com] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:36 PM To: OHHOLMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHHOLMES] Winesburg, OH/Weinsberg, Germany >From what I've found my HORINEs/HOREINs were from near Heilbronn, Germany which is in northern Wüerttemberg. At a recent workshop, I picked up a map of northern Wüerttemberg and near the city of Heilbronn was another smaller town/city called Weinsberg. My question..... does anyone know how Winesburg, OH came to be called Winesburg? Was it named after its counterpart in Germany? Did the Weinsberg church in Germany send some of their congregation to Ohio? The reason I'm thinking this MAY be how Winesburg, Oh got its name is that my ancestors came directly from that same area of Germany described to the Winesburg, OH area and settled in Paint Twp. It's just TOO coincidental that my ancestors lived near towns with such similar names, one being in the "old country" and one, in the "new world!" Any thoughts? Cindy Kimes ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Hello Cindy, I too, have seen Weinsburg, Germany on the map. I would be surprised if Winesburg, OH is not named for this German village. It seems to me that it was spelled (or at least I have seen it spelled) in the old days Weinsburg (OH, that is). I do not know when or why the spelling was changed. and I do not recall the sources of the spelling. Larry ----Original Message---- >From what I've found my HORINEs/HOREINs were from near Heilbronn, Germany which is in northern Wüerttemberg. At a recent workshop, I picked up a map of northern Wüerttemberg and near the city of Heilbronn was another smaller town/city called Weinsberg. My question..... does anyone know how Winesburg, OH came to be called Winesburg? Was it named after its counterpart in Germany? Did the Weinsberg church in Germany send some of their congregation to Ohio? The reason I'm thinking this MAY be how Winesburg, Oh got its name is that my ancestors came directly from that same area of Germany described to the Winesburg, OH area and settled in Paint Twp. It's just TOO coincidental that my ancestors lived near towns with such similar names, one being in the "old country" and one, in the "new world!" Any thoughts? Cindy Kimes

>From what I've found my HORINEs/HOREINs were from near Heilbronn, Germany which is in northern Wüerttemberg. At a recent workshop, I picked up a map of northern Wüerttemberg and near the city of Heilbronn was another smaller town/city called Weinsberg. My question..... does anyone know how Winesburg, OH came to be called Winesburg? Was it named after its counterpart in Germany? Did the Weinsberg church in Germany send some of their congregation to Ohio? The reason I'm thinking this MAY be how Winesburg, Oh got its name is that my ancestors came directly from that same area of Germany described to the Winesburg, OH area and settled in Paint Twp. It's just TOO coincidental that my ancestors lived near towns with such similar names, one being in the "old country" and one, in the "new world!" Any thoughts? Cindy Kimes

Greetings - I am new to this list and to geneological research. I am descended from Samuel J. DIEHL and Nancy J. BOYER of Van Wert County, OH. I have learned from a document in Samuel DIEHL's Civil War Pension file that Nancy's parents were John BOYER (b. 24 Oct 1820 in Holmes County, OH) and Caroline (b. 21 Feb. 1820 in Franklin County, OH). They were married in Van Wert, OH on 16 Nov 1843 and had four children there before Caroline's death, I think in 1854. John BOYER may have remarried that year. If anyone has any information about John BOYER, I would love to know. Thanks in advance, Sara Reed

Hello Iam looking for any info on King Smith bn. appox. 1812 Ohio. He marries Elizabeth Smith Aug 11th 1831 Holmes Co. I believe he may be related somehow to John and William Smith that are listed in Knox on the 1830 census. Any info would be very helpful. Thank you Candice Sutton in So. Cal.

John, My Warners are my mother's family: Ava I. Warner d/o William H. Warner s/o Michael A. Warner s/o Henry Warner. Henry was born in Germany in 1821; married 1st Catherine Fesler on 16 Oct 1855 in Holmes Co., OH and had 4 children: Mary, Michael, Catherine and Joseph. After Catherine's death he married Sarah Dial on 23 Apr 1866 in Knox Co., OH and they had 2 daughters: Rebecca and Rachel. Other than public records that is all I know of him. My Ashbaugh's are also in my mother's family: Elizabeth Ashbaugh married Peter Wolfe, Jr. and had 4 children I know of: William, John "Big John", Jacob and Crosby. The only dates I have on this family is Big John's birth in 1770 in Washington, PA. Elizabeth's parents were: Simon and Eva Kautzmann married in Apr 1752. Simon is buried in East Buffalo Cemetery in Washington, PA. For more details, you can check out my website, use this address: http://suesfamily.virtualave.net/greatroom.html as the one listed below has some problems we haven't fixed as of yet. Happy hunting. Sue "John D. & Peggy Ledrich" wrote: > > TO Sue Snodgrass, > > Just curious to know which Ashbaugh and Warner families you are > researching? > > John D. Ledrich > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB -- Sue Snodgrass "Genealogy is my habit" Addresses: ssnodgrass3@home.com or suesnodgr@iname.com Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twig/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1st Seven Generations: Ashbaugh * Bauscher * Carr * Church * Cornell * Cly * Close * Conner * Critchfield * DeVore * Dillon * Eley * Engelhardt * Fesler * Hermann * Hoyman * Humphrey * Johns(t)on/Johnstone * Korns * Lux * Minger * Monroe/Munro * Remington * Reed * Severns * Shultzmann * Storck * Swartz ** Uhl * Warner * Wolfe * Workman * Zilles

TO Sue Snodgrass, Just curious to know which Ashbaugh and Warner families you are researching? John D. Ledrich

Thank you Sue~ http://www.wayne.lib.oh.us/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwayne/library.htm http://wayne-health.org/wc_genealogy.html http://www.tomsnet.com/~barneyk/waynevet/toc.html <--New URL Veterans buried in Wayne Co. Ohio Researching: GRIFFITH, MATZ, DEHAVEN, SPEICHER, COBLE, MOORE, BRANDENBURG, FOLTZ, WOLGAMOTT, HIMES, EASON, LATIMER, FAFLIK, SCHWARTZ, RUSSELL, LYNN, ZEMAN, STROEMPL, WAYNE CO. OHIO, METZENSEIFEN ANCESTORS, CLEVELAND, OHIO ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Snodgrass To: OHHOLMES-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [OHHOLMES] Cemetery location wanted Jennifer, Yes, there is, but I have been away from home so long I don't remember the road numbers. This is the quickest way I know how to tell you. I went to map quest for it: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn-map_results&random=443&event=find_search&uid=u7k2z3j09epdasga%3A2xqwr2qy1a&SNVData=3mad3-9.fy%2528at2u67_%2529f82u67%253bah7-%253d%253a%2528_%253d%253abad672%253d%253d1su672%253d0%2Crb%253b7%253bb5m-r2qfj5m%253be10h%25284&MAP_AB_LABELS=&WORK=&country=United+States&address=&city=Welcome&State=OH&Zip=&Find+Map=Get+Map Jennifer wrote: > > Is there a cemetery in Holmes Co. called 'Welcome'? > > If so, can someone please post it's location? > > Thank you, > > Jennifer > > http://www.wayne.lib.oh.us/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwayne/library.htm > http://wayne-health.org/wc_genealogy.html > http://www.tomsnet.com/~barneyk/waynevet/toc.html <--New URL Veterans buried in Wayne Co. Ohio > > Researching: GRIFFITH, MATZ, DEHAVEN, SPEICHER, COBLE, MOORE, BRANDENBURG, > FOLTZ, WOLGAMOTT, HIMES, EASON, LATIMER, FAFLIK, SCHWARTZ, RUSSELL, LYNN, > ZEMAN, STROEMPL, WAYNE CO. OHIO, METZENSEIFEN ANCESTORS, CLEVELAND, OHIO > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB -- Sue Snodgrass "Genealogy is my habit" Addresses: ssnodgrass3@home.com or suesnodgr@iname.com Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twig/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1st Seven Generations: Ashbaugh * Bauscher * Carr * Church * Cornell * Cly * Close * Conner * Critchfield * DeVore * Dillon * Eley * Engelhardt * Fesler * Hermann * Hoyman * Humphrey * Johns(t)on/Johnstone * Korns * Lux * Minger * Monroe/Munro * Remington * Reed * Severns * Shultzmann * Storck * Swartz ** Uhl * Warner * Wolfe * Workman * Zilles

Jennifer, Yes, there is, but I have been away from home so long I don't remember the road numbers. This is the quickest way I know how to tell you. I went to map quest for it: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn-map_results&random=443&event=find_search&uid=u7k2z3j09epdasga%3A2xqwr2qy1a&SNVData=3mad3-9.fy%2528at2u67_%2529f82u67%253bah7-%253d%253a%2528_%253d%253abad672%253d%253d1su672%253d0%2Crb%253b7%253bb5m-r2qfj5m%253be10h%25284&MAP_AB_LABELS=&WORK=&country=United+States&address=&city=Welcome&State=OH&Zip=&Find+Map=Get+Map Jennifer wrote: > > Is there a cemetery in Holmes Co. called 'Welcome'? > > If so, can someone please post it's location? > > Thank you, > > Jennifer > > http://www.wayne.lib.oh.us/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwayne/library.htm > http://wayne-health.org/wc_genealogy.html > http://www.tomsnet.com/~barneyk/waynevet/toc.html <--New URL Veterans buried in Wayne Co. Ohio > > Researching: GRIFFITH, MATZ, DEHAVEN, SPEICHER, COBLE, MOORE, BRANDENBURG, > FOLTZ, WOLGAMOTT, HIMES, EASON, LATIMER, FAFLIK, SCHWARTZ, RUSSELL, LYNN, > ZEMAN, STROEMPL, WAYNE CO. OHIO, METZENSEIFEN ANCESTORS, CLEVELAND, OHIO > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB -- Sue Snodgrass "Genealogy is my habit" Addresses: ssnodgrass3@home.com or suesnodgr@iname.com Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twig/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1st Seven Generations: Ashbaugh * Bauscher * Carr * Church * Cornell * Cly * Close * Conner * Critchfield * DeVore * Dillon * Eley * Engelhardt * Fesler * Hermann * Hoyman * Humphrey * Johns(t)on/Johnstone * Korns * Lux * Minger * Monroe/Munro * Remington * Reed * Severns * Shultzmann * Storck * Swartz ** Uhl * Warner * Wolfe * Workman * Zilles

Is there a cemetery in Holmes Co. called 'Welcome'? If so, can someone please post it's location? Thank you, Jennifer http://www.wayne.lib.oh.us/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwayne/library.htm http://wayne-health.org/wc_genealogy.html http://www.tomsnet.com/~barneyk/waynevet/toc.html <--New URL Veterans buried in Wayne Co. Ohio Researching: GRIFFITH, MATZ, DEHAVEN, SPEICHER, COBLE, MOORE, BRANDENBURG, FOLTZ, WOLGAMOTT, HIMES, EASON, LATIMER, FAFLIK, SCHWARTZ, RUSSELL, LYNN, ZEMAN, STROEMPL, WAYNE CO. OHIO, METZENSEIFEN ANCESTORS, CLEVELAND, OHIO

I have found a marriage, Christen Ridenbaugh to Catherine Wolf in 1873 in Holmes Co. Anyone have connections to the Reidenbaugh family? Steve