Dear Listers, I have good maps of Ohio with townships and know when the counties were formed, etc. but how can I find out when the various townships were formed and what their boundaries were? I need this information for Holmes, Coshocton and Tuscarawas Counties. Thanks so much. Peg Peg Adams Check out this site: http://www.countdown9199.com/ (use #1379845) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3052/ Adams Home Page Researching: ADAMS, ATWATER, BERGEY, CODY, CRAVEN, CUSTER, DECKER, EBERHARD, FRENCH, GONSER, HACKENBERG, HAINES, HARBSTER, HENRICKS, KEEFER, KENESTRICK, LOGAN, LONG, MACHAN, McCLEAN, PARKER, PRESTON, ROW, SCHMIDT http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Alley/5802/ Home page for the River Bend Chapter of Sweet Adelines, International

I lost my C Drive last week and lost all the help from those out there on my search for this family. Anyone who can help rebuild I could use the help. I am tracing the marriage of Elizabeth Olinger and John Dingledine in 1856 in Holmes Co. John and familt lived in Ragersville and Sugarcreek . Elizabeth a mystery there are Olingers in both Co. Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada [email protected] Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

Hi all: I am looking for suggestions. My most wanted Cochocton people are the parents of Jane STILLWELL, born 1809 in VA and from another source now WV Jane married Samuel SQUIRE, 29 Mar 1829, Coshocton, OH. Jane died 20 Dec 1865 age 56 yrs, 2 months 14 days according to the obituary. I can not find Samuel and Jane on the 1830 census. Where were they? In 1840 they are in Jackson Township. Samuel's father, Bradley Squire is listed in Washington Township on the 1820 census. Samuel and Jane are NOT listed with Bradley Squire or Samuel's brother Charles or Bradley jr. in 1830. I have checked land records in Coshocton and Muskingum and found no land transfer to Jane and/or her and Samuel from a Stillwell. I have checked out the two Stillwells I know of in the area. Daniel Stillwell in Muskingum. The Ancestral file (LDS) has Jane as his daughter mixing her up with a son John or making them twins or..... I have accounted for all the children of Daniel by will, land records and a historical account of a child who died very early on and was buried in a cemetery which no longer exists-or has been built over in Zanesville. I have checked out Stephen Stillwell of Franklin Township. I investigated whether or not Jane might be a child of an early marriage. Stephen married Mary Thompson in 1811 (Muskingum marriages). A descendant of this couple (Pat Overell) gave me a list of the children of this union and they take up all the spaces in both the 1820 and 1830 census records. Can't squeeze Jane in anywhere. I checked the index of the Court of Common Pleas Coshocton and found a court case between Samuel Squire and Mary (Thompson) Stillwell. But nothing of genealogical interest. WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE??? The only other Stillwell I have come up with is Asher Stillwell. Does anyone know anything about him? I found him by searching the Bureau of Land Management files on the internet. He was buying land in Holmes County in the late 1830's early 1840's. Barbara Brea, CA

We all know there are lots of people researching their ancestors that don't use computers. But, these same folks are reading genealogy columns in their local newspapers. So how does one find a genealogy column in the locality you're researching that will post queries? And, may one submit queries by email? The Mobile (Alabama, USA) Genealogical Society's web site has a page called THE NEWS STAND that provides this information? They list many newspapers, by State, and include information on how to contact the column's writer. A great way to find some of your kin! The Cyber Lobby for the MGS web site can be found at... http://www.siteone.com/clubs/mgs/ Just scroll down to, and click on, THE NEWS STAND.

Hi Derek and Holmes List, There are no "Certificates" for most marriages prior to 1900 in any state. The marriage information is in the form of a county clerks journal entry. It is in the "hand of the clerk" so there are signatures of your ancestors :-(. For the time period you are seeking the typical information is the name of parties, possibly the county each came from, the marriage date and married by whom. No bondsman, no parents and no ages :-(. Who has these.... The Family History Library has microfilm copies. You can order the film through a local Family History Center in Ontario for about $4.00. Then you could make a copy if the journal entry. Also about 95 to 98% of the marriages for the state of Ohio prior to about 1890 are in the LDS data base called IGI (International Genealogical Index). If you are searching for any marriage in Ohio but don't know the county, the IGI is like a state wide index for about 95% of the marriages. So if the marriage is not found it may be in the remaining 5% :-(.... I don't know if the Holmes County Clerk has marriage reciords or not? Maybe someone living in Holmes would know? Good luck, Richard -- Richard Given, Accredited Genealogist and professional researcher. Visit our Web Site http://www.ancestorgallery.com e-mail: [email protected] Derek Dingledine wrote: > Can someone tell me where I could write to get a copy of a marriage > Certificate for 1856 in Holmes Co. I know of the Ohio Historical > Society but what about just for Holmes Co. and the cost to obtain > > -- > Derek Dingledine > Ontario Canada > [email protected] > Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine > In USA and Canada

I am trying to find information on Paul Homan and his wife Elizabeth. They resided in Holmes County between 1839-1850. Any information will be very helpful. Thanks! Diane -- Home Page: http://members.aol.com/DNott97553/index.html Knitting Page: http://members.aol.com/DNott97553/knit.html Genealogy Page: http://members.aol.com/DNott97553/history.html ICQ#: 3773646 E-Mail: [email protected] Researching: Nott, Huya, Burgett, Homan, Page, Miller, Parker, Dodge, Pavolko, Ray, Greenlun, Greenland, TriifilettiI

>From: SMTP%"[email protected]" 26-FEB-1999 21:08:24.05 >From: "Dennis Stark" <[email protected]> >Old-To: <[email protected]> >Old-Cc: <[email protected]> >>From: The Hartline's <[email protected]> >>Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 7:06 PM >>Subject: Re: [OHTUSCAR-L] Roll Call >> >> Martin Luther Baer 02 May 1857 27 Mar 1939 >> Margaret Wagner 27 Sep 1858 04 May 1906 >> buried Maple Grove, Dover >> >>Martin's parents >>Philip Baer Sr 04 Nov 1831 27 May 1917 >>Sarah Ann Welty 31 May 1833 14 Feb 1917 >> buried Maple Grover, Dover >> >>Martin's grandparents; >>George Welty 23 Nov 1792 13 Dec 1865 >>Sarah ALTMAN 01 May 1800 16 Mar 1841 >> buried Grandview, Strasburg Tuscarawas, Ohio >> >>Can you provide Sarah's line of parentage? >> Jim Hartline, Sterling Heights, Michigan >I have as Sarah ALTMAN's parents: >John ALTMAN, b. Sept. 20, 1771 Hempfield Twp., Westmoreland Co. PA > d. Nov. 13, 1847 Strasburg, OH, buried Grandview Cem. >Ana Elizabeth PERSHING (1773-1841) buried Grandview Cem. What is your source for his wife being a PERSHING? The only one I know of is the Isaac KANAGE bio on pp 959-960 of the 1881 History of Stark County, which says Isaac's mother was Elizabeth, "daughter of John Aultman, who married a Pershing". Unfortunately, the Pershing family of Westmoreland Co, PA is fairly well documented (well, it's not unfortunate for _them_ - you know what I mean :^)) and I couldn't find any Elizabeth who fit that birth date (I don't remember seeing her first name as Ana before though); so if you have an additional source on her and how she fits into the Pershing family, I'd love to hear it... >John ALTMAN's parents were John Wilhelm ALTMAN (1724-1790) and Maria Barbara >STAHL (1735-1800). >The Altman line is established further, but I haven't gone back that far. >I'm still trying to establish the parents of my gr-gr-grandmother Susanna >Altman, who MAY have been a sister to Sarah, but I have no documentation. What info do you have on Susanna, and what is your descent from her? >From Rupp's baptismal records, I don't show a Susanna as a daughter of John & Elizabeth, but do show the following: 6/18/1777, d/o Wilhelm & Barbara (full name Susanna Margaretha) 3/ 6/1784, d/o Caspar & Susanna 12/ 3/1790, d/o Philip & Luissa 6/17/1792, d/o Christoph & Maria Barbara 11/25/1795, d/o David & Susanna 12/14/1796, d/o Georg Peter & Barbara 3/29/1799, d/o Wilhelm & Elisabetha 5/23/1799, d/o Wilhelm & Catharina 8/ 9/1800, d/o Georg & Anna Barbara 8/ 9/1802, d/o Georg & Catharina 5/ 4/1803, d/o Michael & Elisabeth 8/11/1805, d/o Peter & Catharina John and Elizabeth had the following children: 1. Hannah (12/16/1796 - 3/15/1876), m. John Weldy/Welty (? - 1827) m2 John Knisely 12/26/1830 John Knisely may have been the son of the founder of New Philadelphia, PA, but I haven't been able to find any trace of that branch of the family :^( 2. Sarah (3/31/1800 - 3/16/1841) m. George Weldy/Welty (brother of John above?) (11/23/1792 - 12/13/1865) This is Jim Hartline's connection. 3. Elizabeth (11/11/1801 - 8/3/1875) m. Michael Isaac Kanaga Sr. (11/27/1800 - 4/2/1866) They ended up in Stark Co, OH. 4. Isaac Altman (9/1/1802 - 4/21/1878) m. Nancy Wallick (4/13/1799 - 4/25/1851) m2 Elisabeth Holzer 8/15/1854. They ended up in St. Joseph Co, IN after Nancy died and was buried in Holmes Co, OH - I hear that cemetery was plowed up and the stones stacked to one side :^( Isaac & Nancy were my 4g-grandparents. >Rootsweb has an ALTMAN-L list, where I'm sure the people there can give you >more information. CCed to them and a bunch of others :^) Ron Bauerle

Can someone tell me where I could write to get a copy of a marriage Certificate for 1856 in Holmes Co. I know of the Ohio Historical Society but what about just for Holmes Co. and the cost to obtain -- Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada [email protected] Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

[email protected] wrote: > Looking for Haas family especially Daniel Haas b. sept 1813 died 31 May 1884 > Holmes county, Ohio, married Anna Margaretha Stahl. > Looking for Gribbler(Gruebler, etc) specifically Elizabeth Catharina b 7 Oct > 1825 Bavaria, d 27 Jan 1888 Holmes County, Ohio married Peter Saam > > Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Mary Hi Mary, Do you know anything about this man? C.M. Hass b. 9/1852 in Ohio. d. 7/27/1920 married to Marie Ault b. 10/1860 d. 1947 They are buried in the cemetery at Frazeysburg, Muskingum Co., Ohio. She was a half sister to one of my ancestors. Thank you, Danny

Did you know that SOME libraries do limited research by mail? Many charge for just the costs of copying the info and mailing it. Normal procedure for long-distance research is: 1. Send the initial inquiry to the library stating as much as you know about the ancestor. (Many libraries with internet access will accept initial inquires by email.) 2. The libraries check their resources for info on your ancestor. 3. They contact you, stating how much $ to send for cost of copies. 4. You forward the funds along with a self-addressed stamped envelope. Sometimes they only have census records, but anything these libraries have available is a help when one doesn't live near the area! If you need the address of a library, check: http://www.acclaimed.com/helpful/ for more than 9,000 U.S. public libraries and addresses, phone numbers, and some email addresses. This same website also offers a list of 1500+ U.S. newspapers! Cindy Kimes

Looking for Haas family especially Daniel Haas b. sept 1813 died 31 May 1884 Holmes county, Ohio, married Anna Margaretha Stahl. Looking for Gribbler(Gruebler, etc) specifically Elizabeth Catharina b 7 Oct 1825 Bavaria, d 27 Jan 1888 Holmes County, Ohio married Peter Saam Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Mary

Each month Sierra Home online features a different historic database to search. This month's free historic database features the names of Civil War Medal of Honor recipients. To search this database, go to: http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/familytree/records/

Despairingly seeking info on Harley A. LEMASTERS. He was born in 1885, somewhere in Ohio (according to 1920 census), and different sources point to Holmes, Tuscarawas, Summit, Richland and Harrison counties. He owned a men's clothing store in Mount Vernon, Ohio, where he died in 1945. He had three children: Thomas Davis, Ronald Arlo, and Mary Dell. Harley was my grandfather, so the lack of info on him creates a gaping hole in my pedigree chart. ANY leads on him would be appreciated. Please reply to [email protected]

I am looking for help locating the family of Valentine Lembrich and Catherine Dingledine. Valentine b May 28 1835 Waldgrehweiler Germany his father was Johann Peter Lembrich He lived in Millersburg Holmes Co. I have most of his children but not the ancestors. If any one is researching the name please contact me. Catherine Dingledine daughter of Balthasar Dingeldein of Ragersville and Sugarcreek Tusc. Co -- Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada [email protected] Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

STEINER, BATDORF I am seeking others researching this PA>OH family: I am seeking (Mariah/Mary) Catherine Steiner's parentage 1) ? STEINER b c 1750 2) (Mariah) Catherine Steiner (c1784PA-c1868OH) of Berks,PA>Daup,PA>Wayne,OH>Ashland/Stark,OH + George Peter Batdorf (1768PA-c1855OH) 3) Peter Batdorf b 1814 m Elizabeth WELKER 3) Catherine Batdorf b 1819 m Mr. MATHHEW 3) Thomas Batdorf b 1820 3) John Batdorf b 1823 3) Daniel Batdorf b 1824 3) Elizabeth Batdorf b 1828 2) George Steiner? Other possible parents for Catherine: Frederick & Anne Margertha Jacob & Catharina Michael & Susanna Augustina & Sarah George & Elizabeth I am seeking parentage for these folks born and raised in PA: (Mariah) Cath STEINER (c1784-1868 Berks/Daup>OH), Wm FRANTZ (c1750-1805 Daup),Saml PETERS (c1821-c1870 Daup), Jacob RUDY (c1760-? Lanc>Daup),MaryAnn SWARTZ (b1820-1897 Jun't>Daup), Cath UNDERHOLD, ATHERHOLTZ (1790-1864 N'land/Lanc),Sarah A CULP, KALP ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Holmes Co. Listees: Another bit of information from the Fayette Co, Pa list. Linda San Diego, CA A WORD FROM THE SPONSOR: TIPS ON CITING INTERNET SOURCES by Brian Mavrogeorge, The Learning Company <[email protected]> Source citation basics include identifying who wrote the information, the form in which the information appeared, and who the publisher and/or repository of the information were. Provide enough detail to permit some evaluation of the source and to enable yourself and others to find the exact source you used. In EVIDENCE! CITATION & ANALYSIS FOR THE FAMILY HISTORIAN, Elizabeth Shown Mills, CG, CGL, FASG, FNGS, applies these basics to the Internet. To make it easy to follow her guidelines, Ultimate Family Tree (UFT) <http://www.uftree.com/> contains source templates authorized by Mills. UFT users can document sources easily by selecting a fill-in-the-blanks template and answering these questions: 1. Who wrote the information? This is the author, the compiler, Webmaster or creator of the Web page. Because electronic mail addresses such as [email protected] and URLs (universal resource locators) -- addresses of Web sites-change frequently, Mills recommends that you also provide a postal address of the originator. 2. What is its form? This might be "e-mail to author," "family file," or "Stanton Family Association Web site." 3. Who published the information or in what repository is it located? This should identify the e-mail user, the Webmaster's name, or the name of the organization. It also could be the page's URL. 4. When was it received? Because of the issue of permanence (or lack thereof) of information found on the Internet, indicate the date the information was downloaded or received. To facilitate evaluating the reliability of the source, cite not only the Internet source, but also the source on which it is based. Has the Webmaster done a partial or full extraction from the original record? Are these simply random bits and pieces of information from unidentified original or secondary sources? This is important because most of the information on the Internet originated in some other medium and is simply being published on the Internet by someone other than the original creator. PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes and (2) the notice below appears at the end of the article: Written by <author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given> Previously published by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 8, 24 February 1999. Please visit RootsWeb's main Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/>. Julia M. Case <[email protected]> Co-Editor of ROOTSWEB REVIEW <http://www.rootsweb.com/~review/> Editor-at-Fault of MISSING LINKS <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mlnews/> To subscribe, send SUBSCRIBE message to [email protected] [email protected] ROOTSWEB GENEALOGICAL DATA COOPERATIVE P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 <http://www.rootsweb.com/>

Hi List, I sub'd to any Ohio list period out of sheer frustration! My gg-grandmother was Ellen J. WALLACE b. April 1848 trouble is...she was born somewhere in Ohio..I haven't a clue and have been trying to find her for almost 10 years! Ellen married William HOWELL b. 1836 Wales. They had two children. William born in Mattoon, IL 1872 Mary (Mae) born abt. 1880 again, somewhere in Ohio... I will not be on this list so if anyone can help, please email me directly. Thank you for reading and any possible clues. Regards, Sierra California

Hi, Derek. Here is all I have on Peter Lembrecht. Johann Phillip Lemperig, no dates. Next is son Peter Lembrech married to Anna Elizabeth Schusz, no dates and their son is Valentine Lembrich b. 9 July 1769 Waldgrehweiler, d. 14 March 1825 W'weiler. Valentine m. Anna Margaretha Kraus, she was b. abt. 1767, d. 3 Jan 1830 Wald'er. Their marriage date is 12 April 1795. These last two are the parents of Johann Valentine b. 29 July 1796; Johann Peter b. 18 Aug 1799; Jacob b. 26 Nov 1802; Catharine Regine b. 11 Oct 1809; Jaque(Jacob) b. 5 Dec 1811; Adam b. 19 June 1811. Johann Peter Lembrich m. Elisabeth Hupperich 2 June 1827 Waldgrehweiler. Elis. b. Feb 1806 Ransweiler and d. 16 March 1845 Waldgrehweiler. Do you have the list of their children with the birth dates, etc.? Did you ever get a copy of the Lembrecht books from Mrs. Thomas in Strasburg? Carole On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 07:10:45 -0500 Derek Dingledine <[email protected]> writes: >I am looking for help locating the family of Valentine Lembrich and >Catherine Dingledine. > >Valentine b May 28 1835 Waldgrehweiler Germany his father was Johann >Peter Lembrich He lived in Millersburg Holmes Co. I have most of his >children but not the ancestors. If any one is researching the name >please contact me. > >-- >Derek Dingledine >Ontario Canada >[email protected] >Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine >In USA and Canada > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I am looking for help locating the family of Valentine Lembrich and Catherine Dingledine. Valentine b May 28 1835 Waldgrehweiler Germany his father was Johann Peter Lembrich He lived in Millersburg Holmes Co. I have most of his children but not the ancestors. If any one is researching the name please contact me. -- Derek Dingledine Ontario Canada [email protected] Searching for All Dingeldein/Dingledine In USA and Canada

To Holmes Co Listees: I belong to another list and received this information this morning. Thought you might be interested. Linda San Diego, Ca Researching Snyder in Pa, Md, Va and Oh; Shipman in Ct, Nj, Pa and Mi ISTG <http://istg.rootsweb.com>. Transcriptions of passenger lists for 404 ships have been uploaded by the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild as of 16 February 1999. Approximately 500 volunteers continue to transcribe lists that will be uploaded as they are completed. Additional volunteer transcribers will be accepted on a quarterly basis (see the ISTG FAQs for details). The passenger lists are searchable by: (1) Date (1600s, 1700s, 1800s, 1900s); (2) Ship's Name (by country, to date including Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, England, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Panama, Portugal, Scotland, Spain, Sweden, Venezuela, Wales, and the West Indies); (3) Port of Arrival (to date including Baltimore, Maryland; Canada; Galveston, Texas; Massachusetts; New Orleans, Louisiana; New York, New York; New Zealand; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Port Jackson, NSW, Australia; Virginia; and Wilmington, North Carolina); and (4) Surname and Captain's Name. * * * GENEALOGY BOOKS. A free service for RootsWeb mailing list subscribers. List used genealogy books you wish to sell at: <http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ayrshire/indexbookmall.html> * * * * * LETTER TO THE EDITORS. I found two Web sites listing my family information-current living family, with birth dates, marriage dates, locations, and personal information such as adoption and nursing home placement. I was horrified and irate and felt I had just found a Peeping Tom at my window. When I wrote to the Web person to inquire about the source of the information and complain about the public display, I received a reply that expressed surprise that anyone would complain; he said others thank him for the Web exposure. He was irate that I was irate! Finally, he grudgingly agreed to delete adoption and nursing home information, but no deletion of birth dates for any of these living people. He said "That is just not going to happen." He did supply the e-mail address of the submitter, but no name-he protects the privacy of the submitter, but not of the victims! In response to my complaint, the person who submitted my information to the Web site I described wrote to say that she has asked the Web manager to delete the information that referred to living persons in my family. I don't know her or how she received my information, but I am grateful for her help. This Web site is supposedly a family Web site, but it is certainly far afield from what I would consider my extended family-I have never heard of these people. The second Web site I looked at was an individual family site on Family Tree Maker done by a cousin who received information from me about three years ago. She has all the names and birth dates (some were copied incorrectly), but not place names or personal comments about living people, so at least she used some restraint. I would prefer not to have the living people, or at least not the birth dates, listed, however, and will ask her to delete them. I have sent family information-by Snail Mail-on three or four occasions to new "cousins" that I met through Web inquiries, and most of those I knew about even if I did not know them personally. There was no implication that this information would be sent to the Web. I like my privacy, and I suspect others do too. I guess I just thought anyone with common sense would understand that it is not in anyone's interest to disperse private information about living people. Even if such information is available as public record, it is not available in such convenient organized form with links to others. We can cut down on public display of information on living persons by deleting it from materials we send to others. Carolyn DeWolfe <[email protected]> * * * * * PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED (1) The reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes. (2) This notice must appear at the end of the article: Written by <author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given> Previously published by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 7, 17 February 1999. Please visit RootsWeb's main Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/>.