Looking for information on the marriage of Louis (Charles Gaum) Gaume and Jeanne (Eugenie) Cholley abt. 1845-1848 in the Calamoutier area of Holmes Co. Particularly interested in any birth, immigration, death information on Louis Gaume. I have immigration info on Jeanne Cholley. Thanks!

Andrew Fisher md Hannah Grim Tuscarawas Co. 1831. Abt 1842 they moved to Coshocton Co. Andrew was son of Peter Fisher of Bucks twp. (previously Somerset Co. PA). Did Hannah belong to the Tuscarawas Grims, the Coshocton Grims or the Holmes Co. Grims? Sharyn, Riverside, CA "A Society That Makes War Against Its Police; Had Better Learn To Make Friends With Its Criminals". ~Unknown Author~

Dear Researchers, Looking for anyone that would like to share info on the BERTSCH, TEUSCHER and SCHMIDT surnames. These families came from Konigsbach, Germany to Holmes Co. about 1882 and lived in the Knox township area. -- Nancy M. Meyers, Lorain OH Genealogy Lookup Volunteer http://www.centurytel.net/lorgen A proud RootsWeb Supporter Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness Volunteer http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnraogk/index.htm Life Member of Ohio Genealogical Society http://www.ogs.org/

Searching for information on the John and Susan JONES family of Knox Township, Holmes Co., OHIO. Their children were: John married Sarah FLACK William married Sarah COLLIER James Elizabeth "Eliza" Susan married Richard "Rufus" HILL Ellen James married Elizabeth "Eliza" JOHNSTON I believe that John and Susan died between 1860-1865. Thank you in advance for any information that anyone is willing to share. I would love to exchange information......thank you.

Still searching for marriage and death records, burial place for both Susanna Miller b. ca 1826, parents unknown, and husband Abraham Doty; they lived Dalton OH. In 1850 they lived Morrow Co OH. This is not my direct line, but Abraham was a brother to my g-g-grandmother. Thank you. Sasha Stanley Greene County OH

To all those who answered my plea. I want to thank all of you who responded to my request on the book I have been searching for. I have also been asked by several to pass the information along if I find it. I believe this to be the one I was searching for. So to Margaret Calvin my deepest thanks. Even if these are not direct lines the books would prove interesting to my dad's heritage. I thought some of you would find your lines in one of these Christians. Family J is close, but my line came over earlier. I was also happy to make contact with other members of my Christian Miller line. Deepest thanks again to all. I will most likely get the bks. If they prove to be of help to the Holmes Co. area I will try to get them for that chpt as well later this yr. ~pat jones~ Ann M. Scott wrote: > Pat, > > Margaret Calvin put us in touch at last. I believe you are looking for > EMIGRANTS, REFUGEES AND PRISONERS [3 v. to date] by Richard Warren Davis. > Each volume costs $50.00 postage paid and may be ordered from the author: > > RICHARD WARREN DAVIS > P.O. BOX 50182 > PROVO UT 84605 > > Unfortunately, they have only surname indexes--if given names were > included in the indexing, I would be glad to send you page and vol. > references to Christian Miller entries. However, I can tell you that only > Volume III contains an entire chapter of Mueller/Miller lines. Vols. I & > II would also contain isolated references to many Millers that married > into other families profiled in those volumes, but if you are going to > find your Miller line in these books traced back several generations, it > would have to be in volume III, I presume. [However, I don't want to > underemphasize the potential value of vols. I and II. You will likely > find much valuable info here on allied and associative lines.] The > Mueller/Miller section in Vol. III is not long--only 6 and 1/2 pages > (279-285), but it profiles 10 "separate" Miller lines that may or may not > connect. Scanning these few pages, I see Christians in several of them, > including the following: > > Family A, p. 279-80: > 1. Christian Mueller, b. c1635, marr. Madlena LUDI > 2. Christian Mueller, b. 5 Jun 1674, Eggiwil, possibly marr. Elsbeth > MEYER, ?had son Samuel > 3 & 4. brothers, both named Christian Mueller, one b. 28 Mar 1734 & > other, 4 Aug 1736, both in Eggiwil > 5. Christian Mueller, b. 1 Jun 1682 Trub ("Reported at Eggiwil") > > Family C, p. 280 > 1. Christian, b. c1645, marr. Anna Tschabold ["Amish"] > > Family F, p. 283 > 1-3. Christian Mueller, b. c 1690, res. Gerolsheim, Germany; marr. Anna > Barbara STAUFFER. They had two sons named Christian, one b. 1752 > Wallertheim, marr. Elis. SCHMIDT, and the second b. 26 Mar 1718, > Gerolsheim, d. 8 Apr 1743, no marr. listed > > Family J, p. 285 > 1. Christian Miller, b. c1760 [prob. Berks Co., PA], marr. Freny ?BLOUGH; > also res. Somerset Co. with parents after 1771. > > Those are the only Christians that caught my eye; however, many children > in these lists appear without names, only birthdates and sometimes sex, > etc., e.g. "Child, b. c 1746." Thus, if you know enough about your > Christian's family, you may be able to fit him into one of these lines > tentatively if he is not one of the above. Good luck to you--let me know > if you have a hit--we might have more information on your line in our > files. By the way, not all the Mueller lines in Vol. III are traced back > to the 1500s, but some of them are. > > I remember you and enjoyed meeting you at Garst--sorry you had so much > trouble tracking me down. I probably had a business card in my wallet > that day--don't know why I didn't give you one. > > If you decide you want to see a "fair use" photocopy of the Miller > section from Vol. 3 before you buy the book, let me know and I'll email > you our copy service fees and guidelines. > > Ann Miller Scott, MSLS > National Librarian > Palatines to America > Capital University > Columbus OH 43209-2394 > [email protected]

I am looking for information on the Homan Family lived in Holmes Counrt in the early 1800's. He moved out of the county into Knox by 1860. Thanks! Diane Nott [email protected] Elyria, OH ---- [email protected] wrote: [Non text/plain message body suppressed] ________________________________________________________________________ Get your own free email, set up a MyFamily site at http://www.MyFamily.com

I am looking for the address of what was then the Methodist -episcopal church in Knox in the 1840 era would appreciate any help on this matter trying to find the Parents of Margaret Miller born 1830 in Carrol county but moved to Holmes at an early age and was married fhere in 1852 thanks Loretta

My lines of research concentration in Holmes Co at the moment are: MILLER/HERSHBERGER/STUTZMAN/TROYER I have most info from the "Amish and Amish - Mennonite Genealogies" and the OMII site. I have a problem with a date and am hoping someone is a member of the Walnut Creek Mennonite Church. My grandfather Sylvanus "Venus" Hershberger was a minister there many yrs ago. I have been gathering d/cs for the Miller line for the last yr at the OHS. I have been unable to get Emanuel A. Hershberger's. My ggrandfather. I ck the OMII site and the date is different than the one dad gave me. Dad said he thought his grandfather died in 1942 the site gives a date in 1952. My request is if someone is a member and wouldn't mind cking the marker on the grave. I will be spending time at the Mohican again this summer to photograph some of the cemeteries and get some of the info at Millersburg that I can't get at the state level. Also if anyone is aware of a bk out that takes the Amish/Menno lines bk to the 1500's in Europe naming families and villages I would like to get that as well. It is not the "Amish and Amish/Mennonite Genealogies." I am told it is more current and the name does not give a clue that it is a Amish/Menno history bk. A woman who works at a private library told me abt it and I can't find my paper with the info on it. I would like to get a copy for my dad, myself and the Holmes Co Chpt OGS to go with the other 2 I gave abt John "Indian" Miller and the "Amish and Amish/Mennonite Genealogies" So if any one knows the title and where I can get copies I would dearly love to hear from you. Deepest thanks to anyone who can give me the date for Emanuel A. Hershberger's death. ~pat (entwhistle-entwistle/gethen/hershberger) griffiths/jones~

-----Original Message----- From: tom and linda shipman [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:27 PM To: 'Gene Small' Subject: RE: Foreman Gene and List, I should have done this from the start, hope this helps. >From California Wagon Train Lists, Vol. 1, by Louis J. Rasmussen........St. Joseph, Missouri (April 23, 1851). The "Mohican Gold Company" from Delaware and Ashland Counties of Ohio, crossed the Missouri River at St. Joseph on April 23, 1851. Members of this California emigrant group consisted of the following individuals: Joseph Smith, Captain O.P. Smith R.B. Han G. Crull W.R. Galfin Thomas Sanford John Engle (?) (Eagle?) C.H. Robinson M. Kimerer J.S. Paullin/sic/ William Steel E. Jacobus T. Wells/sic/ S.C. Snyder J. Anderson William Newman Baltzer Koontz Jacob Wertsbaugher James Gammill (Garmil?) William A. Gammill E. Backley R.V. Armstrong S. Bartoe/sic/ C. Davis J. Kimerer J.H. Foreman S.J. Seibert A. Seibert F. Foltz S.H. Young J.L. Sanburn Henry Snyder A.R. Sigler S.D. Smith Alexander H. McAfee G. Joliff L.W. Condit A.J. Houser George Patrick D. Raugh (Rowe?) -----Original Message----- From: Gene Small [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Foreman Linda: Dare I ask what the names are from Holmes County? Gene tom and linda shipman wrote: > Hi Foreman researchers, > I don't have your address, but was just looking on a manifest for the > Mohican Gold company....a group of emigrants to California. Found a J.H. > Foreman that left April 23, 1851 from Delaware and Ashland Counties in > Ohio. They crossed the Missouri River at St. Joseph on April 23, 1851. > This list contains the familiar names of many who lived in Holmes County. > Hope this helps someone. > Linda Snyder Shipman

Hi Foreman researchers, I don't have your address, but was just looking on a manifest for the Mohican Gold company....a group of emigrants to California. Found a J.H. Foreman that left April 23, 1851 from Delaware and Ashland Counties in Ohio. They crossed the Missouri River at St. Joseph on April 23, 1851. This list contains the familiar names of many who lived in Holmes County. Hope this helps someone. Linda Snyder Shipman

Did Holmes County have records of orphans in the early 1800's? If so, would someone there be so kind as to look for my g-grandfather, Jacob LONG, b. Millersburg 8 Jan 1822? I can find no LONGs in 1820-1830 census that would seem to be his parents, and I'm wondering if they died and left him an orphan. Jacob LONG m. in Coshocton Co., OH, on 8 Jan 1850, moved to Indiana in 1858, came back to Holmes Co. to marry a second time (to Sophia UHL) on 12 Aug 1874, and died in Fulton Co., IN, on 16 Feb 1895. There is no death certificate in Fulton Co. Thanks for any help or leads. Justin Long Monroe, Georgia, U.S.A.

JAMESON ----- TRASTER ----- CUNNINGHAM ----- WOLMAGOT I have been looking for a clue to the names of the parents of my Mary TRASTER for 14 years, and thought that maybe some of you who are familiar with Holmes County records might be able to suggest a source I haven't tried yet. Mary Helen TRASTER was born in Feb 1828, in either OH or PA (census records don't agree). On 1 Apr 1848, she was married in Millersburg, Holmes, OH to John Hook JAMESON of Hookstown, Beaver, PA. I have a copy of the marriage record, but there is no clue there to Mary's family. On the 1850 census, this couple is living in Beaver Co., PA. Several of John H. JAMESON's uncles lived in Millersburg, Holmes, OH, and are listed there in the 1850 census. In the household of his uncle, John JAMESON, is an Elizabeth TRASTER, age 8, b OH. There is a Margaret TRASTER, age 20, b PA, listed in the household of Henry WOLGAMOT, a farmer; and a Sarah TRASTER, age 18, b PA, listed in the household of Andrew CUNNINGHAM, a blacksmith. I know that Margaret is the sister of Mary TRASTER JAMESON, because she is shown in the JAMESON household in Van Buren Co, IA, in the IA state census of (I believe) 1855, as sister-in-law of the head of household. Several of the JAMESON families of Holmes Co. and Beaver Co. went to Iowa in the late 1840's and early 1850's, some remained in Holmes Co. I have found no further reference to Margaret, Sarah or Elizabeth TRASTER. It looks like something might have happened to their parents, and the TRASTER sisters were farmed out to different Holmes County families, but I have found nothing in probate or guardianship records to support this. I thought that John JAMESON's wife might have been the widow of a TRASTER when they married, and that the 8 year old Elizabeth was her daughter, but that is not the case. There are TRASTER families in Coshocton County, OH, but the young TRASTER women in Holmes County don't seem to fit into their families. The Holmes & Coshocton records I have checked are the ones that are available on microfilm through the FHC. I would appreciate any suggestions about other records that might be available. Joann Jameson Listowner: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

Dear listees....thank you all for answering my question regarding newsletters from the Holmes County Historical Society. Some of you asked me questions regarding surnames. Please be patient, I am just leaving for a couple of weeks, but will answer you when I return. Again, thanks for your responses. Linda Snyder Shipman

Hi Holmes Co List, Ohio didn't require a marriage license for the time period you are requesting. The following is from GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH: Methods and Sources, Vol 2. Ohio Chapter II page 22. "Marriage records dating from the organization of each county are in the custody of the (county) Probate Court. . . . . . Until 1951 marriage was legal in Ohio without a county license if banns were announced in the church. Ministers were required to send the records to the County Probate Court, but they were often careless about this. It was about 1900 when the ages of the parties, names of the parents and other detailed information were required." It does not state this was a marriage license, but Indiana introduced marriage applications in 1905 with detailed info and Illinois required a marriage license in 1877. A search of the FHLC only had marriage records for Holmes County and no indication there were marriage licenses. I have several Holmes Co. marriages from 1842 to 1865 and have not found any information on marriages licenses. How to find the parents names!! The best option you have is to look in the 1850 Ohio Census. The marriage record will give the surnames of the bride and groom. Look in the 1850 Ohio Index for all the people in Holmes County. Then find them in the census. Look for a family with a 16 to 2? year old daughter (you would have a better idea of her age in 1850) with the same given name of the bride on the marriage record. Don't stop at the first one!! Keep going especially if the name is Mary, Margaret, Elizabeth, etc.!! The other option is to find the bride and groom in all the censuses until their death. Locate their death certificate and maybe there parents names are on it. Another choice is to find the bride and groom in the 1880 or later census and see what state they say their parents were born in. this is another clue to narrow duplicates from the 1850 census suggestion. Also you may find a parent living with them years later. Another option is to locate the groom or his children in a bcounty iography. Hopefully, the wife's parents are given! Biographies are especially useful in Midwest research and very informatiove, but not everyone had a biography :-( These are some of the best and easist thing to do to find parents..... I hope this helps you and other on the list. Best regards, Richard -- Richard Given, Accredited Genealogist and professional researcher. Specializing in Ohio, Midwest and United State research. Visit our Web Site http://www.ancestorgallery.com e-mail: [email protected] [email protected] wrote: > could you tell me if Ohio reguired people to have a marriage license before > they were married i have a copy of the marriage but am trying to find out > Ggmothers parents names. they were married in Holmes county Jan 22,1852 who > would i write to get this do you have an address. Thank you Loretta Barchus

I am an ancestor of William Reiter/Rider b 1773 Pa, died 1854 Holmes Co., Ohio. He resided from about 1815-1838 in Stark Co. and from about 1838-1853 or 1854 in Tuscarawas Co., Ohio with his daughter, Margaret Warnes and her husband Philip. His wife was Hannah Bordner/Bortner also b Pa. Today I received an e-mail from a favorite second cousin, she forwarded a query from someone else interested in the Rider surname. One of William's daughters was Mary Rider who married Jacob Dietz. She and Jacob and several other daughters, and son Reverend William Rider are buried in the Shanesville First Reformed Church Cemetery in Tuscarawas County, Ohio. In the will of William Rider Sr., he names daughter Ann and daughter Julianne. Anyone have any idea what happened to Julianne or who she married? I have been told that Ann possibly married William Gonser in Coshocton Co., Ohio. Any relatives out there? Vicky Tallent

Hi Linda and List, I am constantly "on the lookout" for SCHNEIDER and I wondered if any of yours are buried in Walnut Creek Cemetery, Holmes Co., OH? I have been building a database consisting of the descendants of Johannes GERBER, d 1777 Cumru Twp. (now Reading), Berks Co., PA, the descendants' spouses, and the spouses' ancestors. Many of these migrated to Holmes Co. by way of Somerset Co., PA, before the War of 1812. Very many are buried in Walnut Creek Cemetery. Some of the most frequent surnames of this "extended family" are BERKEY, HERSHBERGER, HOCHSTETLER, KAUFFMAN, TROYER, and YODER, with MILLER being the largest. Most of the above were Amish families, but the SCHNEIDERs I am seeking, were probably Bretheren or Reformed. At 08:18 AM 3/3/00 -0800, tom and linda shipman wrote: >I joined the Holmes County Historical Society the end of last year and >bought all the publications they offer. They have been very helpful. I am >wondering though if there is any regular newsletter that comes out as I >have not received any. I live in San Diego and was hoping there would be a >regular form of genealogical communication. Thanks in advance for your >response. > >Linda Snyder Shipman >Researching in Holmes Co: Snyder/Schneider/Snider and connecting families >of Miller, Starn, Lawrence, Reiter/Ritter/Rider, Fry, Rowe and Swartseger ---------- GERBER/GARBER (Switz > Berks Co., PA > Somerset Co., PA > Holmes Co., OH > Tuscarawas Co., OH > Stark Co., OH > Geauga Co., OH HOPKINS (Essex, England > MA > CT > VT > NY > Licking Co., OH > Geauga Co., OH) MCCOLLUM (Atlantic Co., NJ > Clermont Co., OH > Bracken Co., KY > Mahoning Co., OH) HENRY ( Washington Co., PA > Mahoning Co., OH > Ashtabula Co., OH > Mahoning Co., OH)

I think you would find that Ohio has always required a marriage license, at least soon after Ohio became a state. What you will not find is parents until late in the 1800's, 1899 in Wayne. Bob Strock [email protected] wrote: > could you tell me if Ohio reguired people to have a marriage license before > they were married i have a copy of the marriage but am trying to find out > Ggmothers parents names. they were married in Holmes county Jan 22,1852 who > would i write to get this do you have an address. Thank you Loretta Barchus -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Sponsor member of Rootsweb and listowner of Strock-L, Uhl-L, and Welday-L message lists. GenConnect Family Association boards: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Strock http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Uhl http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/w/e/WELDAY/queries

could you tell me if Ohio reguired people to have a marriage license before they were married i have a copy of the marriage but am trying to find out Ggmothers parents names. they were married in Holmes county Jan 22,1852 who would i write to get this do you have an address. Thank you Loretta Barchus

I joined the Holmes County Historical Society the end of last year and bought all the publications they offer. They have been very helpful. I am wondering though if there is any regular newsletter that comes out as I have not received any. I live in San Diego and was hoping there would be a regular form of genealogical communication. Thanks in advance for your response. Linda Snyder Shipman Researching in Holmes Co: Snyder/Schneider/Snider and connecting families of Miller, Starn, Lawrence, Reiter/Ritter/Rider, Fry, Rowe and Swartseger