This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2069.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Yes!! you filled in a few more holes. We think that Bert's mother died in child birth or around that time her name Francis Cathrinne Stewart. the Step-mother Cora had another child matthew. when Erastus died in some kind of explosion [ boiler?] Cora put Bert in the poor house. some how the stewarts [grandparents] found out and went and got him and raised him. I was under the impression Bert was very small [younger than 6] we do not know much about his Chaney family as he was raised by the Stewart's but also don't seem to know anything about Stewarts. do know Cora changed Mathews name to Cheney and later he went by van Buren but did not claim the name Chaney. Just looked at date for Erastus death it is 1878-80 so he must have been involved in the boiler explosion too or one right after that. thank you so much Deborah Starr

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/1225.1237.1379.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My grandmother also died of Parkinson's. My mother, her dtr, has supranuclear palsy. I wonder if both are not further mutations of Machado-Joseph's disease. Maybe someday scientists will be able to tell us. Good luck, NancyS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Steel, Butters, Longs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/1225.1237.1379.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks so much for your response. I will check the with as many family members as possible. All the older ones are gone but hopefully there will be some over looked information or clues somewhere. So far looks like Lemuel Steel appears with no trace of his parents. My grandfather died of Parkinsons so now it makes you wonder. Thanks so much for all the information. Really appreciate all your work. Take good care, Darlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/1086.1385.1391.1 Message Board Post: Looking for Reuben McCune data/linage, North part of Adams Co and Southern part of Highland, Sugar Tree Ridge area; (b Oct 20, 1820, d May 16, 1882. Reuben m Sarah Marlott. There may have been a William Marlott. Their dau Julia McCune, b 1854, d 1912, m Thomas Heaton Young. Any relatiion or info?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2069.1.1.2 Message Board Post: A six-year-old Bert E. Chaney is in the 1880 federal census for Van Buren, Hancock county, Ohio. He was born in Iowa and is living with 27-year old Erastus (born OH) and 18-year old wife Cora (born IN). Cora does not appear to be his mother but may be the stepmother or an aunt, since Bert's parents are both stated as being born in OH. According to "The Chaney Families of Highland Co, OH" it appears Erastus' brothers Nathan, Casper, and Charles were killed in a steam mill boiler explosion in Fontanelle, IA in March 1878. Bert may have been the orphaned son of one of these, but is not listed in this reference.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2069.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No the one that I listed was all that I could find. Karl

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/1225.1237.1379.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Darlene, Well, FIRST, :-) I hope you have read ALL my websites that I noted and still note below my signature. That is a good way to begin. From there, ...... Sometimes determining whether or not one has a Melungeon family is simply a matter of adding up points and saying, I believe these folks were Melungeons. :-) The Melungeons are difficult to find, to say the least. They needed to hide in order to survive and they did that VERY well. Your folks with Melungeon surnames, (1 point) were in an area that was close to known Melungeons areas (1 point). Now check out the following physical characteristics and add points if any of your family has these characteristics:PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS: There are some physiological characteristics which are called ethnic markers, that seem to be passed on through the lines of some Melungeon descendants. There is a bump on the back of the HEAD of SOME descendants, that is located at mid-line, just ABOVE the juncture with the neck. It is about the size and shape of half a golf ball or smaller. If you cannot find the bump, check to see if you, like some descendants, including myself, have a ridge, located at the base of the head where it joins the neck, rather than the Anatolian bump. This ridge is an enlargement of the base of the skull, which is called a Central Asian Cranial Ridge. My ridge is quite noticeable. It is larger than anyone else's that I have felt, except my father's. I can lay one finger under it and the ridge is as deep as my finger is thick. Other ridges are smaller. To find a ridge, place your hand at the base of your neck where it joins your shoulders, and on the center line of your spine. Run your fingers straight up your neck toward your head. If you have a ridge, it will stop your fingers from going on up and across your head. ONLY people who live/d in the Anatolian region of Turkey or Central Asia also have this "bump/ridge." See the following diagram for the site of both the ridge and bump. Back of Head \lllllllllllllllllllllllll/ ears ( ___x___ ) ears x marks the bump's location \valley / the ridge is the line __ shown \ / neck / \__shoulders There is also a ridge on the back of the first four teeth - two front teeth and the ones on either side (upper and lower) of some descendants. If you place your fingernail at the gum line and gently draw (up or down) you can feel it and it makes a slight clicking sound. The back of the teeth also curve outward rather than straight as the descendants of anglo-saxon parentage do. Teeth like these are called Asian Shovel Teeth. Many Indian descendants also have this type of teeth. The back of the first four teeth of Northern European descendants are straight and flat. There is no way I can do justice to the look of a shovel tooth on a computer, but this is the closest I can come. An example of northern European teeth would be similar to this diagram: \l Shovel teeth look like this diagram. Back of teeth )/ front of teeth, straight. Hold a teaspoon by its handle with the inside of the spoon on the left. Note that it arches toward the right hand side but it also somewhat scoops back from both sides inward. SOME Melungeon descendants have what is called an Asian eyefold. This is rather difficult to describe. At the inner corner of the eye, the upper lid attaches slightly lower than the lower lid. That is to say that, it overlaps the bottom lid. If you place your finger just under the inner corner of the eye and gently pull down, a wrinkle will form which makes the fold more visible. Some people call these eyes, "sleepy eyes, dreamy eyes, bedroom eyes." Many Indian descendants also have these kinds of eyes. Northern European eyes: NOSE < Asian eyefolds: NOSE /- Some families may have members with fairly dark skin who suffer with vitiligo, a loss of pigmentation, leaving the skin blotched with white patches. Some descendants have had six fingers or toes. There is a family of people in Turkey whose surname translated into English is "Six Fingered Ones." The term for that in Turkiq is "AltI parmak." (pronounced "altah-par-mock) "AltI" ends with the undotted Turkish "i" which is pronounced as "uh." There is a region near Efes (Ephesus) called "AltI Parmak" - many of the people there have historically had six fingers. Some families have even taken the last name of "AltIparmak." (Add one point for each characteristic in the family) If your family has an Indian Grandmother(father) `myth' which you have been unable to prove, an adoption story that is unprovable, or an orphan myth, (1 point each) and they have been hard to trace (1 point) and they lived in NC, TN, KY, VA, WV areas in the early migration years or if they seem to have moved back and forth in these areas or into neighboring states (1 point) and if they share any of the mentioned surnames (1 point) and characteristics, you MAY find a connection here. Some descendants do not show the physical characteristics and of course, there are many people with the surnames who are not connected to this group. If any ancestor has been labeled M, mulatto; FPC, Free Person of Color, then this is an excellent clue. (3 points). Dr. Walter A. Plecker director of Vital Statistics for VA is responsible for almost single handedly destroying the lives of Melungeons by using these designations and other states followed. You can use the net to find more info on him to if you are interested. If the family used any of the terms, Black Dutch/Irish/Scot etc that is also a good clue, or if the family said they were "Portyghee." These terms were used to hide Melungeon ancestry. (1 point) If you have 4 or more, then it is quite likely the family is of Melungeon descent. I suggest that you go to http://www.google.com INPUT: Steel Genealogy+Melungeons (note spacing) A lot should come up and you might also want to check into the CASTEEL family since many Casteels became Steels in order to hide their background. Do the same with Butters. Dr. N. Brent Kennedy's book, `The Melungeons: The Resurrection of a Proud People,' both a genealogy and theoretical search for answers, is a must read for anyone who is connected to this group. Most bookstores can order this book in paperback for you. When I started researching Melungeons, there were 3 websites. Now there are hundreds. Use the google search engine and simply put in Melungeon and start searching. What a fascinating journey you are about to begin!! Good luck and if I can help further, just let me know. My e-dress is: nmorri3924@aol.com (note there is no 's' in this e-dress.) Write anytime. NancyS THE MELUNGEON HEALTH EDUCATION AND SUPPORT NETWORK: http://www.melungeonhealth.org Melungeon Information and Common Surname List: http://members.home.net/sparkys9/melungeons.html Fibromyalgia in YOUR family? Inherited? Maybe!! Causes of Fibromyalgia, Nancy, Fibromyalgia http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedies/CFS/fib_causes_nancy.htm MelungeonDNA info http://www.geocities.com/bourbonstreet/inn/1024/DNAannouce.html Sparks Genealogy: http://SparksGenealogy.net (Select: Index/Nancy's Corner/The Melungeon Connection) (Select: Index/The Melungeon Media Release) Searching SPARKS, HAGER, JAYNE, RAMEY/REMY, COLLINS, MUSICK, WALKER, PORTER MAYO, CAREY/CARY NAPIER,QUEEN, PERDUE, KELLEY, LETT, BELCHER

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2069.1.1 Message Board Post: thanks but am looking for Bert Everett Chaney born 1873 oct 12 in Berryhill ohio. He died feb 1o 1948 with wife in a house fire in Idaho. do you hve anything on him. thanks Deborah Starr

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Steel, Butters, Longs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/1225.1237.1379.1 Message Board Post: Dear Nancy: Noticed on the Melungeon Meeting list that it has the name's Steel and Butter's. My grandfather, his father, his father and going back to Lemuel Steel b 1786 lived in Logan and Highland, Ohio. We have not been able to trace where Lemuel came from. My grandfather's mother's family were Longs and back in their line are Butters, all living in the Logan and Highland, Ohio area. How does one find out if there families were of Melundgeon desent? Appreciate any help, Thanks, Darlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Butter, Butters, Longs, Steel, Steele's Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/951.1009 Message Board Post: I have a Suzanna Frump(sister to Elizabeth?) married to William Allen Long. Have Joseph Butters married to Matilda Leonna Long, had 1 daughter Dora Butters and she married John Walker. Have Zeri Butters married Matilda's sister, Mary Laverne "Mollie" Long. they had one son. Appreciate any information. Thanks Darlene

Ohio 1910 Census Miracode Index Bert E Chaney Age: 36 State: OH Color: W Enumeration District: 0135 Birth Place: Ohio Visit: 0030 County: Highland Relation: Head of Household Other Residents: Relation Name Age Birth Place Wife Martha M 40 Ohio Son Everett L 10 Illinois Daughter Bessie W 05 Iowa Daughter Lucille 03 Ohio Updated: Sat Aug 25 17:19:18 2001 Contact: deborah starr <starrd@orofino-id.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ahnentafel, Generation No. 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 1. Bert CHANEY was born 1873 in Ohio, and died 1948 in Between Whitebird and Riggins Idaho. He was the son of 2. Erastus CHANEY and 3. Frances Catherine STEWART. He married Martha Matilda TANNEHILL. She was born in Ohio, and died 1948 in Idaho. Child of Bert CHANEY and Martha Matilda TANNEHILL is: i. Lewis " Everett" CHANEY was born 1900 in Illinois, and died 1957 in Grangeville Idaho. She married Alph "Doris" CHASE 1920 in Grangeville Idaho, son of Oliver CHASE and Margarette Catherine "Nora" STEPHENS. He was born 1901 in Grangeville/Denver Idaho, and died 1985 in Grangeville Idaho. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ahnentafel, Generation No. 2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 2. Erastus CHANEY was born 1854 in Ohio, and died 1878 -1880. He was the son of 4. John F CHANEY and 5. Margaret UNKNOWN. 3. Frances Catherine STEWART died 1873. She was the daughter of 7. unknown UNKNOWN. Children of Frances Catherine STEWART and Erastus CHANEY are: i. Bert CHANEY was born 1873 in Ohio, and died i948 in Beteen Whitebird and Riggins Idaho. He married Martha Matilda TANNEHILL. She was born in Ohio, and died 1948 in Idaho. ii. John CHANEY [ALSO KNOWN CHENEY AND VAN BUREN} was born 1880 in Hamrock Co Ohio. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ahnentafel, Generation No. 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 4. John F CHANEY was born 1818 -1822, and died 1907. He was the son of 8. Nathan CHANEY and 9. Mary UNKNOWN. 5. Margaret UNKNOWN was born 1823. Children of Margaret UNKNOWN and John F CHANEY are:2. i. Erastus CHANEY was born 1854 in Ohio, and died 1878 -1880. He married Frances Catherine STEWART, daughter of unknown UNKNOWN. She died 1873. ii. Nathan CHANEY was born in Ohio. iii. Catherine CHANEY was born in Ohio. iv. Martha CHANEY was born in Ohio. v. Willard CHANEY was born in Ohio. vi. Samual CHANEY was born in Ohio. vii. Nellie CHANEY was born in Ohio. viii. Charles CHANEY was born in Ohio. ix. Ida CHANEY was born in Ohio. x. Casper CHANEY was born in Ohio. xi. Gerorge CHANEY was born in Ohio. xii. Ellsworth CHANEY was born in Ohio. 7. unknown UNKNOWN. Child of unknown UNKNOWN is:3. i. Frances Catherine STEWART died 1873. She married Erastus CHANEY, son of John F CHANEY and Margaret UNKNOWN. He was born 1854 in Ohio, and died 1878 -1880. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ahnentafel, Generation No. 4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 8. Nathan CHANEY was born 1792 in Pennsylvania, and died 1860 in Ohio. He was the son of 16. Gabriel CHANEY and 17. Mary UNKNOWN. 9. Mary UNKNOWN was born 1796 in virginia. Children of Mary UNKNOWN and Nathan CHANEY are:4. i. John F CHANEY was born 1818 -1822, and died 1907. He married Margaret UNKNOWN. She was born 1823. ii. James M CHANEY. iii. William A CHANEY. iv. Mary J CHANEY. v. Daughter ? CHANEY. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Ahnentafel, Generation No. 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- 16. Gabriel CHANEY was born 1762 in Pennsylvania, and died 7/15/1822 in Ohio. 17. Mary UNKNOWN. Child of Mary UNKNOWN and Gabriel CHANEY is:8. i. Nathan CHANEY was born 1792 in Pennsylvania, and died 1860 in Ohio. He married Mary UNKNOWN. She was born 1796 in virginia. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: <starrd@orofino-id.com> To: <OHHIGHLA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:02 AM Subject: [OHHIGHLA-L] bert Chaney of highland> > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2069 > > Message Board Post: > > if you have more inf on the chaneys would like to hear from you. My great grandfather was beert Chaney. he was raised by his mothers parents and have limited information on him > thank you deb starr

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WOOD & CHANEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2069.1 Message Board Post: I found a Bert L. Chaney born 8 Mar 1878 and died 12 Jun 1937 in a book the I have. It is called "The Chaney Families of Highland County, Ohio". I can forward this information if you would like. It shows that he had three children.This book can be found in the Genealogy Section of the college at Hillsboro, OH or ordered from the Genealogy Society at Hillsboro. Karl Forehand Jr.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2070 Message Board Post: Hi! would like to hear from on Victor Tannehill. If your still out there?? Deb

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...some sites of interest: http://www.interment.net/data/us/wa/kittitas/mtolivet/olivet.htm http://www.chartiers.com/beers-project/articles/cravin-286.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "ABRAMS" <abrams@seidata.com> To: <OHHIGHLA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:50 PM Subject: [OHHIGHLA-L] CRAVEN > Searching for information on Samuel W. Craven who lived in Highland County > OH around 1880. Could someone check for him in the cemeteries or land > records. Thanks Mary

QUESTION: <Does anyone know of a way to find a wedding date or certificate of my grandparents from the Hillsboro area? abt. 1917?> HIGHLAND COUNTY: Probate Court has marriage & death records 1867-1909, birth records to 1905; Clerk of Courts has divorce & civil court records from 1832, some naturalization and adoption records; Health Department has birth, death & marriage records from 1909; County Recorder has land records. Highland County Probate Court 105 N High St, Hillsboro, OH 45133 937-393-9981 Highland County Health Dept 135 1/2 N High St, Hillsboro, OH 45133 937-393-1941 ----- Original Message ----- From: <lcyburt@hotmail.com> To: <OHHIGHLA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: [OHHIGHLA-L] Evans/Martin Family Hillsboro > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/2068 > > Message Board Post: > > My grandparents, Jeston and Nola (Martin) Evans, were in the Greenfield, Ohio area around 1920. Jeston was originally from Adams County, Ohio and Nola from Scioto County. Jeston's father was Wayne and Susan Ella Evans. Nola's parents were Francis Marion Martin and Ollie (Gillette) Martin. Any connections out there? > Also- Does anyone know of a way to find a wedding date or certificate of my grandparents from the Hillsboro area? abt. 1917?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Lamberson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/2YB.2ACI/2060.2 Message Board Post: Do you have any information on Nathan Phillips? Where he was born & to who? Names of children? I have a Sarah A. Phillips (b. 1846) whose father was Colonel N.J. Phillips. She married Wm Lamberson 3 Dec 1864. probably in Brookline, Mo. They had 10 children, 3 boys & 7 girls. Some being born in Brookline. Later moving to Oologah, Ok.

I have noticed a lot of people posting query and info on Caplingers and just wanted to note that there are a lot of Caplingers in Montgomery County, Indiana. I think there was possibly some common migration pattern between Highland County and Montgomery and Tippecanoe Counties in Indiana. I have a William Plat(t) who married Sally (Sarah) Roads/Rhodes/Rhoads in Highland County. They later moved to Warren County, Ohio and ended up in Tippecanoe County, Indiana. Just a note to anyone who's lost an ancestor in a move! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

Searching for information on Samuel W. Craven who lived in Highland County OH around 1880. Could someone check for him in the cemeteries or land records. Thanks Mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/2YB.2ACI/2067.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, I have no information about these people, but can you tell me where the Caplinger cemetery is located? Thanks for your help, Norma