Suzanna, Please feel free to track AFB Rose in Carroll Co, MO. It's been a while since I worked with these families. I have been focused on David Rose and Hannah Par, and his parents, Robert Rose and wife Abigail, in PA, NJ, and NY. I have a funeral card, obituary listing, and cemetery register that says Elizabeth Rose Hall died 14 Feb 1909, not 1908. More importantly for you, I have several records for AFB and his wife Mary in Hancock Co, OH. Mary had been committed to the state insane asylum at least twice. AFB had to take out a huge loan to pay for her keep. There is a large packet of material in the court records re a lawsuit filed by the lender to get his money back. Not very happy material. Shortly after he remarried, AFB and his wife evidently went to WI. Without digging through my files, I think I recall that one of his sons was there already. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzanna Wells <wellses@ohio.tds.net> To: Gerald S. Lenzen <gslenzen@orednet.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: Re: War of 1812 Roster > Thank you. Now I know that they were in Carroll Co, MO. That has been the > sticking point since I didn't know where in MO. Have you written to Carroll > Co.? If not, I will do so. > > I have a copy of the obit on AFB's wife if you are interested. If so, send me > your address and I will send on to you. Also, I have the names of the > children. I would be interested in ANY info on the family that you have. I > will followup on whatever leads you have. As I am not a direct descendant, I > don't have knowledge about the Bible. Wish I did--my search could have been a > lot easier! > > I was sent these dates on Elizabeth ROSE HALL: 20 Feb 1826 Fairfield Co, OH d. > 14 Feb 1908 Buried Howard Co, MO mar. 26 Dec 1844 Obediah Hall. I also have > the names of the children, some w/spouses. > > Willing to share any info I have on the families. > Suzy > "Gerald S. Lenzen" wrote: > > > Suzanna, > > > > I've gone back and reviewed my comment to you about looking for a record of > > William Long in his parents records. I don't know where I got the idea that > > Williams parents could acquire his benefits. That idea is incorrect based on > > my own research experience. Ignore the recommendation. I'm still wide-eyed > > about his young age at death. Is that correct according to some record? Or > > is it family tradition? Had he been married? Why do you need much more info > > about him if he had no descendants? > > > > ----------- > > > > Aaron Fenton Burson Rose was the youngest child of John Rose and Margaret > > Berry. I have bits and pieces of information about AFB, his wives, and his > > descendants. My GGGrandmother, Elizabeth Rose Hall, AFB's oldest sister, > > died in AFB's home in Carrollton, Carroll Co, MO, in 1909. > > > > I tried to track some of AFB's descendants when in Salt Lake City several > > trips back. I wasn't too successful. As I recall, without digging through my > > notes, some went to Wisconsin, others to Indiana and Missouri. Christine > > Rose may have more descendant information that she has not included in her > > report on the David Rose and Hannah Par family. These are AFB's Great > > Grandparents. > > > > Are you a descendant of AFB Rose? I have been searching for a direct > > descendant of AFB for many years. A family history written in the 1880's in > > Indiana by Judge James Rose attributes the particulars in that report to > > Burson Rose of Hancock Co, OH. As far as I can determine, there was no other > > "Burson" Rose in the area at the time. I am assuming that AFB somehow > > acquired the family bible willed to his uncle, James Rose, by James Rose, > > Sr. I can find no other source that would have the details mentioned in the > > Judge Rose manuscript. I'd like to find that bible. Do you know of it's > > whereabouts? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Suzanna Wells <wellses@ohio.tds.net> > > To: Gerald S. Lenzen <gslenzen@orednet.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:01 PM > > Subject: Re: War of 1812 Roster > > > > > Is your John ROSE related to Aaron Fenton Burson ROSE b. 1841 Delaware > > Twp., > > > Hancock Co, OH s/o John Rose and Margaret Berry? Aaron mar. 1865 Mary > > Ann > > > ROLLER and 2nd 1902 Netta MATTISON. I have their children's names, but > > need > > > dates, spouses, grandchildren. Can you help on them? > > > > > > I had been told earlier that if he had died that the parents had no claim. > > I'll > > > have to look into that then. Thanks. > > > Suzy > > > > > > "Gerald S. Lenzen" wrote: > > > > > > > Suzanna, > > > > > > > > I am struck by the birth and death dates listed for the William Long you > > are > > > > researching as having died in MI in the War of 1812. It appears he was > > 16 > > > > years old at the time. Was this info from some record, or is it from > > family > > > > tradition? If he was really that young, he was probably not married. As > > his > > > > natural heirs, his parents could take out claims for his pension or > > bounty > > > > land. Have you looked in Virgil White's War of 1812 index for that type > > of > > > > claim? > > > > > > > > I have copies of both Hervey Scott and C. M. I. Wiseman's histories of > > > > Fairfield Co, OH. Neither one lists a John Long in their writeups. A > > John > > > > Long is listed in several locations in the early tax records of > > Fairfield > > > > County, OH. There appear to be more than one of them. If you are having > > > > trouble finding from where they came, you might try Huntingdon Co, PA. > > There > > > > were Longs living near and married into my Lane and Brown families in > > > > several genearations. They were in Fairfield Co about 1800. > > > > > > > > Family Tree Maker's CD # 175, Ohio Vital Records #1, lists John Long's > > will > > > > abstract on page 584 of Gateway to the West. His wife Sebena and son, > > > > Robert, are listed as executors. No other children are listed. William > > > > Roller and Andrew Poulson were witnesses. > > > > > > > > By coincidence, two entries lower on the page from John Long is my > > ancestor, > > > > James Rose. His executor, John Rose, was my ancestor. > > > > > > > > Gerry Lenzen > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Suzanna Wells <wellses@ohio.tds.net> > > > > To: <OHHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 8:42 AM > > > > Subject: War of 1812 Roster > > > > > > > > > Looking for proof of a relative in the War of 1812. I'd like to send > > > > > for the military records. My ggggrandmother's brother's line showed > > > > > that another brother, William Franklin LONG b 1 Mar 1797 d. 6 Dec > > 1813 > > > > > (in/near Detroit, MI) in the War of 1812). I have looked for lists, > > but > > > > > have not found his name. TheyWilliam's parents (John and > > > > > Isabella/Sibella (THOMPSON) LONG) were in Fairfield Co., OH, in 1810, > > so > > > > > William probably served from that area. > > > > > They were not in Hancock Co. until the 1820's. > > > > > Any idea where to go from here? > > > > > Suzy > > > > > > > > > > > > > >