Thanks again Darlene. It does not appear there is a quick solution to this problem. Someone needs to research the appropriate county records in MI, once James G. Rose is located there. The 1860, 1870, and 1880 censuses should be checked to help locate the family. Beers says they were there by 1886. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Darlene Lewis <lewisnc@turbosurf.net> To: Gerald S. Lenzen <gslenzen@orednet.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 12:55 PM Subject: Re: War of 1812 Roster & the ROSE Family > Jerry...accordiing to the marriage book that our Hancock Chapter published > which containes marriages from 1828-1864...there is an * asterick beside her > name...so I looked in the preface to see what a * meant and it means that > the "date is for application ...no return filed" Does that help you? He is > not listed in the other 2 marriage books at all. Book #2 is 1865-1884 and > #3 is 1885-1898 > > Darlene Lewis > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gerald S. Lenzen <gslenzen@orednet.org> > To: <OHHANCOC-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:07 PM > Subject: Re: War of 1812 Roster & the ROSE Family > > > > Jean, > > > > No, the Judge Rose I was referencing was a son of John Rose. John was > > brother to James Rose, and son of David Rose and Hannah Par. Judge James > E. > > Rose of Auburn Indiana prepared a (partial) manuscript titled > "Genealogical > > Biographical and Historical Sketches and Reminiscenses from Records and > > Traditions of the Rose Family" in 1888. John R. Scoville of Butler, > Indiana > > located it in 1972. The mss was published in the Rose Family Bulletin, IX, > > Whole No. 34, June 1974, pp 937-940. > > > > Christine Rose also printed two reunion notices for this family which took > > place in the 1880's. They were in RFB , No.2, pp 31-32, and No. 3, pp > 55-57. > > > > I am alittle confused by the lineage listed below. I found a marriage > > license for James G. Rose and Emma Emily Saunders in the Hancock Co, OH, > > vital records. You indicate that James Rose married Emily Wolford. I know > > that the couple was listed with Andrew Wolford on the 1850 census in > > Deleware Township, page 82. Charlotte was not there. This fits with your > > ecord of her death in 1847. I have always wondered why they were with this > > family. Emily is listed as born in England. All the rest of the family is > > listed born in OH. Was she adopted? Was she the daughter of an earlier > wife > > of Andrew from the earlier wife's prior marriage? Emily just seems to be > too > > old to be the daughter of Andrew and Charlotte. I have assumed she was not > > related, and that James Rose was working for Andrew Wolford. > > > > Perhaps Emily WAS the daughter of Andrew and Charlotte. She is about five > > years older than James Rose. She may have been married once already, and > > married James under her married name. I don't remember looking in the VR > > files for Emily Wolford married to a Saunders. Maybe you could do that. If > > true, that would identify her first husband and probably confirm her > maiden > > name. There may be marriage and death records for Saunders in Fairfield or > > Hancock Cos, OH. If she was NOT the daughter of Andrew Wolford, then one > > needs to look for a marriage of any male Saunders surname to any Emily > given > > name prior to 22 April 1850. > > > > The 1840 census for Andrew Wolford lists one male 20-30, one male under 5, > > one female 20-30, and one female under 5. This raises the question again, > > Why are there not two female children listed? Pages 25-26 of that census > > list many of your and my family names. However, there is no Saunders > listed. > > The name Saunders is known in Fairfield Conty, OH, from where many of > these > > folks came. > > > > Final question, How are you related to the James G. Rose listed above? You > > call him an ancestor, but I don't see any descendancy listed in your > > lineage. He is a grandson to my James Rose and Sarah Norris through my > John > > Rose and Margaret Berry. John and Margaret's daughter, Elizabeth, who > > married Obediah Hall, was my ancestress. She was next youngest in age to > > James G. Rose. My line follows through Calvin Sigel Hall and Laura Hudson, > > Vallie Blanche Hall and Daniel Hale Taylor Jr., Ella Izora Marie Taylor > and > > Sylvester Otto Lenzen, to me Gerald Sylvester Lenzen md 1959 to Constance > > Lou Miller. My Taylor Grandparents and Hall Great Grandparents are all > > buried in Riverview Cemetery here in Portland, Oregon where we live. > > > > I have briefly looked through my notes for any other new info on James G. > > Rose. Beers and Co. "History of Hancock Co., Ohio," by R.C. Brown Warner, > > 1886, says that he was in Michigan at the time of publication. If you look > > him up on the BLM Federal Land Records web site, there are a huge number > of > > entries for James G. Rose. I have never tracked him down there, so I don't > > know whether or not that is your James G. Rose. It's worth a try. > > > > Let me know how you are related to the Rose clan. > > > > Gerry > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Cochranmia@aol.com> > > To: <gslenzen@orednet.org> > > Cc: <Cochranmia@aol.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 3:54 AM > > Subject: Re: War of 1812 Roster & the ROSE Family > > > > > > > Hi Gerry, > > > I have many ancestors located in Hancock Co., OH (Sebastian, Lowman, > > Wolford, > > > Elder, Bibler, Bradford, & on & on) including James Rose. I found James > > Rose > > > (b. 1825) in 1850 Census (Delaware Twp., Hancock Co., OH, Page 82) > > married > > > to Emily Wolford, sister to Margaret Wolford who married Aaron > Sebastian. > > > In 1850 he is living near my great great grandparents George & Jane > > > Sebastian. Is this the same James Rose you are describing as Judge in > > > Indiana? I was unable to find him after 1850. If so, do you have a > copy > > of > > > the family history written in the 1880s? > > > > > > Look forward to hearing from you. > > > Jean Cochran > > > cochranmia@aol.com > > > > > > Descendants of Andrew WOLFORD > > > > > > 1 Andrew WOLFORD b: 1811 d: 1879 in Hancock Co., OH, Age 68 > > yrs, > > > 1 mo., 6 da. (Earlywine Cemetery) > > > . +Charlotte (WOLFORD) b: 08 Nov 1815 m: Abt. 1830 d: 22 > May > > > 1847 in Hancock Co., OH Age 30 yrs. 6 mos., 14 days > (Earlywine > > > Cemetery) > > > ......... 2 Emily WOLFORD b: 1830 > > > ............. +James ROSE b: 1825 in OH > > > ......... 2 Margaret "Maggie" WOLFORD b: 15 Jan 1836 in Delaware > > Twp., > > > Hancock Co., OH (see Notes) d: 08 May 1917 in Jackson > > Twp., > > > Hancock Co., OH, Age 81 (Arlington Cemetery, Madison > > Twp.) > > > ............. +Joseph SEBASTIAN b: 1831 in Coshocton Co. or > > Hancock > > > Co., OH (Civil War-OVI, 133 Reg. Co., A, Camp Chase, > > Mustered > > > 02 May 1862, out with Company 20 Aug 1862; and > > Drafted > > > OVI. 47 Reg.. Camp Dennison, Mustered 26 Sep 1864, out 22 May > > > 1865- McDougal General Hosp. New York Harbor) m: 05 Mar 1854 in > Delaware > > > Twp., Hancock Co., OH d: 23 Jan 1918 in Hancock Co., OH > > > (Arlington Cemetery, Madison Twp.) Father: George > > SEBASTIAN > > > Mother: Jane FIVECOATS > > > .................... 3 Lucretia SEBASTIAN b: 1854 in Delaware > Twp., > > > Hancock Co., OH d: 15 Sep 1868 in Jackson Twp., > Hancock > > > Co., OH, Age 16, Typhoid Fever > > > .................... 3 Pleasant "Evaline" SEBASTIAN b: 1854 in > OH > > > d: 1933 in Prob., Hancock Co., OH (Arlington Cemetery, > > > Madison Twp.) > > > ........................ +Martin R. BAKER b: 1849 m: 18 Mar > 1875 > > in > > > Hancock Co., OH d: 1930 in Prob., Hancock Co., OH > > > (Arlington Cemetery, Madison Twp.) > > > .................... 3 Emma L. SEBASTIAN b: 01 Oct 1857 in OH > > > d: 15 Sep 1868 in Hancock Co., OH, Age 10 Years > > (Arlington > > > Cemetery) > > > .................... 3 Elmer H. SEBASTIAN b: 24 Jan 1862 in > Hancock > > > Co., OH (see Notes) (Member of Jackson Co., OH > School > > > Board) d: 30 Mar 1916 in Findlay Home & Hospital, > > > Findlay, OH Age 54 (Died following an operation for kidney trouble.) > > > (Arlington Cemetery) > > > ........................ +Ardella V. WALTERMIRE b: 06 Mar 1862 > in > > > Hancock Co., OH (see Notes) m: 05 Apr 1883 > in > > > Hancock Co., OH (8 children, 11 grandchildren in 1927) d: > > > 20 Dec 1927 in Hancock Co., OH (Arlington Cemetery) Father: > > > Washington WALTERMIRE Mother: Sarah BEAGLE > > > .................... 3 Arvid"Murrell" SEBASTIAN b: 01 Oct 1872 > in > > > Jackson Twp., Hancock Co., OH d: 20 Jul 1891 > in > > > Hancock Co., OH (Arlington Cemetery, Madison Twp/) > > > ......... 2 Isaiah WOLFORD b: 27 Mar 1844 in Delaware Twp., Hancock > > Co., > > > OH d: 08 May 1861 in Civil War, OH Volunteer Infantry., Co., > C, > > > Reg. 82., Age 19 yrs., 11 mo., 12 days. (Earlywine > > Cemetery) > > > > > > *2nd Wife of Andrew WOLFORD: > > > . +Mary Ann (WOLFORD) b: 07 Nov 1825 m: Abt. 1848 in Prob., > Hancock > > > Co., OH d: 31 Dec 1899 in Hancock Co., OH (Earlywine > > Cemetery) > > > > > > ......... 2 Emaline WOLFORD b: 1849 > > > ......... 2 William McClelland WOLFORD b: 24 Sep 1862 d: 11 > Oct > > > 1866 in Hancock Co., OH Age 4 yrs., 17 days (Earlywine > > Cemetery) > > > > > > > > >