According to "Guide to Genealogical Resources in Cincinnati & Hamilton County, Ohio" the following sources contain death records for Hamilton County: Probate Court, 1881 - 1909 (very incomplete) City of Cincinnati Elm Street Health Center, 1874 to present Norwood Heath Center, mostly after 1908 Reading City Building, 1909 to present St Bernard City Hall, 1889 to present Hamilton County General Health District, 1891 to present Can anyone tell me if the above records are mutually exclusive or is there overlap? Is there any rationale as to what records one depository has vs another. In other words, why aren't all the records in one place? I will be spending a limited amout of time in Cincinnati later this year and would like to know which of the above places is likely to offer the most "bang for the buck" in terms of finding early death records, i.e., those before 1909. After 1909, I understand that death records from 20 Dec 1908 to 31 Dec 1944 for the whole state of OH are available on microfilm at the Public Library in Cincinnati so I plan to go this route for the later records. Also, were many of the birth and death records destroyed with the various fires that burned down the courthouses? I know this was the case with the marriage records, but were birth and death records also lost? John Charles Tippet johntippet@cox.net

The death is recorded where the death occurred, if in the cities of Cincinnati, Norwood, Reading or St. Bernard, it is recorded in that city. If it occurred out side of any of the above mentioned cities but within Hamilton Co., then Hamilton Co. will record the death. I'm not certain what the Probate court records exactly exist of, so it's possible there could be some overlaps in those records. You have to also remember that someone may not have died where they lived, for example St. Bernard, but died in a hospital within the city of Cincinnati & so the death would be recorded in Cincinnati, not St. Bernard. Note that death records previous to 1909 for the City of Cincinnati are now located at the University of Cincinnati's Blegen Library. Also note, you need an appointment at both the city of Cincinnati & the Hamilton Co., Bd. of Health to search the records, I'm not sure about the other cities. To check for more details, I have links to the appropriate websites here; http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/cresources.html#Vitals As to the fires, the last one occurred in 1884, but the law to record deaths for everyone wasn't until 1908. My experience with the records previous to 1908 is that they were filled out by a doctor or sometimes a midwife in the case of births. The event was not recorded for people who were born or died at home without a doctor in attendance . Hope this helps? Linda Boorom ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@cox.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Hamilton Co Death Records > According to "Guide to Genealogical Resources in Cincinnati & Hamilton > County, Ohio" the following sources contain death records for Hamilton > County: > > Probate Court, 1881 - 1909 (very incomplete) > City of Cincinnati Elm Street Health Center, 1874 to present > Norwood Heath Center, mostly after 1908 > Reading City Building, 1909 to present > St Bernard City Hall, 1889 to present > Hamilton County General Health District, 1891 to present > > Can anyone tell me if the above records are mutually exclusive or is there > overlap? Is there any rationale as to what records one depository has vs > another. In other words, why aren't all the records in one place? > > I will be spending a limited amout of time in Cincinnati later this year and > would like to know which of the above places is likely to offer the most > "bang for the buck" in terms of finding early death records, i.e., those > before 1909. > > After 1909, I understand that death records from 20 Dec 1908 to 31 Dec 1944 > for the whole state of OH are available on microfilm at the Public Library > in Cincinnati so I plan to go this route for the later records. > > Also, were many of the birth and death records destroyed with the various > fires that burned down the courthouses? I know this was the case with the > marriage records, but were birth and death records also lost? > > John Charles Tippet > johntippet@cox.net > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

John and all, Just talked to Kenny Burck, Hamilton County Chapter president, who is working on a revision of the Guide that you referred to. Guess this will be a 5th edition. 1) First of all, The Reading, Ohio, records have been sent to Ham.Co. General Health District at 250 Wm. Howard Taft Rd. Address/phone in the book. 2) Mutually exclusive or overlap? Kenny says you can never be sure of anything and best to check all sources. Sometimes they registered twice. 3) Why not all in one place? It was a great distance to travel by buggy so they likely went to the nearest town and all of these places were their own towns back then. 4) City records at Blegen. Be sure to call ahead and let them know you are coming in from out of town and when you will be there so they can have the records available for you. 5) The Cincinnati library is acquiring (if they have not already done so) death records that extend to 1953 with an index to 1954. 6) Were many birth and death records destroyed in the various fires? Don't know if they had them there or not before 1891. Guess they burned if they did. 7) Don't forget to always check Jeff (Herbert) and Kenny's(Burck) indexes before beginning. 8) Plus here is an item that Kenny found at the OGS library while there recently. A book by Paul Immel and Carol Montrose called Cincinnati Mirror & Ladies' Parterre, 1831-1833 Abstracts of Marriages, Obituaries & Miscellanea. This is a paper book of about 25 pp. No price is given but order by contacting Carol Montrose, 7421 Central College Rd., New Albany, OH 43054. Sounds like another good replacement for lost records. I love newspaper indexes and abstracts for that reason. Also, hope I'm not getting too long, but Kenny Burck has just listed himself as a researcher on the Hamilton County Chapter Web site. He will actually pick you up, get a room for you (you could probably even stay with him!) spend the day with you, take you to cemeteries, research facilities, etc., and even find a good restaurant for you. Sounds like a time saver. Other good researchers listed there as well. Check out the Researching page on the HCCOGS Web site. Hope these help. Barbara

Barbara, Would you or anyone have any idea where the birth, marriage and death records would be today for those who lived in the New Baltimore/New Haven area in Crosby Township? I don't think they had a courthouse of any kind in that area to file records. Thank you, Barbara Indianapolis, IN Little Miami Publishing <barbara@littlemiamibooks.com> wrote: John and all, Just talked to Kenny Burck, Hamilton County Chapter president, who is working on a revision of the Guide that you referred to. Guess this will be a 5th edition. 1) First of all, The Reading, Ohio, records have been sent to Ham.Co. General Health District at 250 Wm. Howard Taft Rd. Address/phone in the book. 2) Mutually exclusive or overlap? Kenny says you can never be sure of anything and best to check all sources. Sometimes they registered twice. 3) Why not all in one place? It was a great distance to travel by buggy so they likely went to the nearest town and all of these places were their own towns back then. 4) City records at Blegen. Be sure to call ahead and let them know you are coming in from out of town and when you will be there so they can have the records available for you. 5) The Cincinnati library is acquiring (if they have not already done so) death records that extend to 1953 with an index to 1954. 6) Were many birth and death records destroyed in the various fires? Don't know if they had them there or not before 1891. Guess they burned if they did. 7) Don't forget to always check Jeff (Herbert) and Kenny's(Burck) indexes before beginning. 8) Plus here is an item that Kenny found at the OGS library while there recently. A book by Paul Immel and Carol Montrose called Cincinnati Mirror & Ladies' Parterre, 1831-1833 Abstracts of Marriages, Obituaries & Miscellanea. This is a paper book of about 25 pp. No price is given but order by contacting Carol Montrose, 7421 Central College Rd., New Albany, OH 43054. Sounds like another good replacement for lost records. I love newspaper indexes and abstracts for that reason. Also, hope I'm not getting too long, but Kenny Burck has just listed himself as a researcher on the Hamilton County Chapter Web site. He will actually pick you up, get a room for you (you could probably even stay with him!) spend the day with you, take you to cemeteries, research facilities, etc., and even find a good restaurant for you. Sounds like a time saver. Other good researchers listed there as well. Check out the Researching page on the HCCOGS Web site. Hope these help. Barbara ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== DON'T send a message in ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters except when typing a surname. It's shouting, and considered bad manners(Netiquette). ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx