I doubt if crying will help, I've never known an instance where it was helpful. Since you know the date and where they were married I'd suggest writing the church direct. On some church records I've seen the parties addresses listed along with the parents names. Tom Lori wrote: >Hi folks, > >I could use some help from some of you that have experience with records at the Hamilton County Court. > >I wrote to them on the 15th of February, and already heard back from them today. However, the results were not what I'd hoped for. > >I have a marriage certificate for my ggrandparents, William MARTIN and Ellen "Nellie" RYAN. They were married at St. Xavier's on 3 NOV 1880. The only information provided on the marriage certificate was the names of the couple and names of the witnesses. > >As most of you know, I've been at a dead end with this for close to a year, so decided to write to Hamilton County to see if I could get a copy of the marriage license/application, etc. > >The court request came back: "I have searched the years 1863-1884 and found no record for the request you have given us." > >I don't understand how that can be. I gave them the exact date of the marriage. I know when Ann B. helped me with this, she told me that it was from restored records. Is it the court records I'm looking for that were destroyed? > >I'm bummed out in a major way. I need desperately to verify Nellie's parents names, as I'm having doubts about the information on her death certificate. I don't know where else to turn to try and get that information, as I have absolutely nothing on her prior to her census information a few months prior to the marriage. > >Nellie worked for the Chas Taft family, and I wrote to them some time ago to see if they had anything, and they were unable to help. > >Any thoughts, suggestions, shoulders to cry on? > >Thanks, > >Lori > > >==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact >the List Mom off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >

Information on death certificates isn't always accurate, either. One of my ancestors died in a Catholic hospital for cancer patients and her death info was supplied by a nun who had only cared for her in her illness. The Sister did the best she could, but the parents names were wrong. Have you looked for William in the 1870 and 1880 census? Maybe his neighbors might give you a clue. Who were their neighbors in the 1900 census? Who else is buried near them? What are the names of their children? Was there a naming pattern for the children? Sometimes the first and second born sons were named for grandfathers, Was a usual surname used for any given names of the children? Was there an obituary for Nellie? If she had brothers or nephews surviving maybe they were listed or served as pallbearers. Sounds like you are beating a dead horse for the marriage information, try another tack. Hope this helps. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <texastee10@comcast.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Hamilton County Court >I doubt if crying will help, I've never known an instance where it was >helpful. Since you know the date and where they were married I'd suggest >writing the church direct. On some church records I've seen the parties >addresses listed along with the parents names. > > Tom > > Lori wrote: > >>Hi folks, >> >>I could use some help from some of you that have experience with records >>at the Hamilton County Court. >> >>I wrote to them on the 15th of February, and already heard back from them >>today. However, the results were not what I'd hoped for. >> >>I have a marriage certificate for my ggrandparents, William MARTIN and >>Ellen "Nellie" RYAN. They were married at St. Xavier's on 3 NOV 1880. >>The only information provided on the marriage certificate was the names of >>the couple and names of the witnesses. >> >>As most of you know, I've been at a dead end with this for close to a >>year, so decided to write to Hamilton County to see if I could get a copy >>of the marriage license/application, etc. >> >>The court request came back: "I have searched the years 1863-1884 and >>found no record for the request you have given us." >> >>I don't understand how that can be. I gave them the exact date of the >>marriage. I know when Ann B. helped me with this, she told me that it was >>from restored records. Is it the court records I'm looking for that were >>destroyed? >> >>I'm bummed out in a major way. I need desperately to verify Nellie's >>parents names, as I'm having doubts about the information on her death >>certificate. I don't know where else to turn to try and get that >>information, as I have absolutely nothing on her prior to her census >>information a few months prior to the marriage. >> >>Nellie worked for the Chas Taft family, and I wrote to them some time ago >>to see if they had anything, and they were unable to help. >> >>Any thoughts, suggestions, shoulders to cry on? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Lori >> >> >>==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >>This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a problem, >>question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact the List Mom >>off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Missed posts? Deleted that one that put a chink in the wall? Try the > Archives. Select either searchable or browsable Archives from here! > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information.

My favorite is my husband's gr gr grandfather turning up on the 1900 census SIX months after he died! No kidding! ******************************************* Patricia A. Gough Secretary Penfield Public Library 1985 Baird Road Penfield, NY 14526 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." -- Erma Bombeck -----Original Message----- From: Carole Johnson [mailto:ammcj@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:39 AM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Hamilton County Court Information on death certificates isn't always accurate, either. One of my ancestors died in a Catholic hospital for cancer patients and her death info was supplied by a nun who had only cared for her in her illness. The Sister did the best she could, but the parents names were wrong. Have you looked for William in the 1870 and 1880 census? Maybe his neighbors might give you a clue. Who were their neighbors in the 1900 census? Who else is buried near them? What are the names of their children? Was there a naming pattern for the children? Sometimes the first and second born sons were named for grandfathers, Was a usual surname used for any given names of the children? Was there an obituary for Nellie? If she had brothers or nephews surviving maybe they were listed or served as pallbearers. Sounds like you are beating a dead horse for the marriage information, try another tack. Hope this helps. Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom" <texastee10@comcast.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Hamilton County Court >I doubt if crying will help, I've never known an instance where it was >helpful. Since you know the date and where they were married I'd suggest >writing the church direct. On some church records I've seen the parties >addresses listed along with the parents names. > > Tom > > Lori wrote: > >>Hi folks, >> >>I could use some help from some of you that have experience with >>records >>at the Hamilton County Court. >> >>I wrote to them on the 15th of February, and already heard back from >>them >>today. However, the results were not what I'd hoped for. >> >>I have a marriage certificate for my ggrandparents, William MARTIN and >>Ellen "Nellie" RYAN. They were married at St. Xavier's on 3 NOV 1880. >>The only information provided on the marriage certificate was the names of >>the couple and names of the witnesses. >> >>As most of you know, I've been at a dead end with this for close to a >>year, so decided to write to Hamilton County to see if I could get a copy >>of the marriage license/application, etc. >> >>The court request came back: "I have searched the years 1863-1884 and >>found no record for the request you have given us." >> >>I don't understand how that can be. I gave them the exact date of the >>marriage. I know when Ann B. helped me with this, she told me that it was >>from restored records. Is it the court records I'm looking for that were >>destroyed? >> >>I'm bummed out in a major way. I need desperately to verify Nellie's >>parents names, as I'm having doubts about the information on her death >>certificate. I don't know where else to turn to try and get that >>information, as I have absolutely nothing on her prior to her census >>information a few months prior to the marriage. >> >>Nellie worked for the Chas Taft family, and I wrote to them some time >>ago >>to see if they had anything, and they were unable to help. >> >>Any thoughts, suggestions, shoulders to cry on? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Lori >> >> >>==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >>This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a >>problem, >>question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact the List Mom >>off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. >> >>============================== >>Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Missed posts? Deleted that one that put a chink in the wall? Try the > Archives. Select either searchable or browsable Archives from here! > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information. ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== DON'T send a message in ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters except when typing a surname. It's shouting, and considered bad manners(Netiquette). ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx