Hello Still searching for gg grandfather listed as OH birth September 1810. John C.H.Smith as listed in 2nd or 3rd marriage of 1844 in Illinois. If you have a census 1830, 1840 household should include a son Wesley and Addison He was listed as farmer as occupation but then referred to himself as Doctor John Grigg Higgin Smith. Involved in a number of circuit court cases in 1850s -maybe a key also if this was an issue early in his life Any help much appreciated wayne s _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_mobile_052008