My next step would be to pursue the sons and their families and contact those still living to see what family history was passed down through the generations. Being born in 1826, I doubt Thomas lived long enough that a death certificate would be any help. A formal death / birth certificate didn't come in use until late in December, 1908. Have you tried alternative spellings of his last name? Marriage records at that time requested very little information, not even age, just that they had reached a certain age. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois B." <loisgen@yahoo.com> To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:06 PM Subject: [OHHAMILT] FIRTH Hi Listers, I'm new here. I hope someone can help or at least point me in the right direction. First, I live in Massachusetts and am trying to help a man in New Zealand to find some of his missing roots. The name he is researching is FIRTH. Thomas FIRTH was born in Bingley Yorkshire England in 1826. The English researcher wrote "Thomas b. Bingley 1826. Of the ten boys and one girl in the family he is one of them who probably went to the US." Since I'm the American, the search fell upon me. So far I have searched on Ancestry for ship's lists and found nothing for certain, I have searched for someone with his name who emigrated within the general time period. I did find one Thomas FIRTH in Hamilton Cty who fit the time period and was born in England. However, I can't figure out if he is the same one who was b. in Bingley in 1826! So far I have contacted the probate court in Cincinnati for possible naturalization records but they found nothing. Then I sent money to the University library to get a copy of a marriage certificate which could be him -- Thomas Firth m. Zillah Wilson on 28, March, 1851 in Peoria IL. (I had found that marriage by looking at online marriages with his name and the general year.) The marriage certificate proved nothing because they were married by a justice of the peace and there are no parents' names! On the 1880 US census I have Thomas and his wife Gilah (Zillah?) nee Wilson ages 54 and 45. Children are John, Ida, George, Ella, Norman, Corra, Lillie. I have found records for a John M Firth, a George Firth, and Norman Firth that fit the right time and place for their sons. The big question is this---how can I see if this Thomas FIRTH, age 54 on the 1880 census is the same Thomas FIRTH b. 1826 in England that my friend is looking for? I've been trying to crack this case since September and would love it if anyone can offer any help. Best regards, Lois in Massachusetts To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would follow up on the children--all of them. Their death records may say exactly where the father was born. If not, try to find living descendants and contact them. Also, if you find where the children are buried (from their death records), you may find that Thomas is buried there as well. Cemetery information for him may include his birthplace. Nora in CT Bob wrote: > My next step would be to pursue the sons and their families and contact > those still living to see what family history was passed down through the > generations. Being born in 1826, I doubt Thomas lived long enough that a > death certificate would be any help. A formal death / birth certificate > didn't come in use until late in December, 1908. > > Have you tried alternative spellings of his last name? > > Marriage records at that time requested very little information, not even > age, just that they had reached a certain age. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lois B." <loisgen@yahoo.com> > To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 9:06 PM > Subject: [OHHAMILT] FIRTH > > > Hi Listers, > > I'm new here. I hope someone can help or at least point me in the right > direction. > > First, I live in Massachusetts and am trying to help a man in New Zealand to > find some of his missing roots. The name he is researching is FIRTH. > > Thomas FIRTH was born in Bingley Yorkshire England in 1826. The English > researcher wrote "Thomas b. Bingley 1826. Of the ten boys and one girl in > the family he is one of them who probably went to the US." > > Since I'm the American, the search fell upon me. So far I have searched on > Ancestry for ship's lists and found nothing for certain, I have searched for > someone with his name who emigrated within the general time period. I did > find one Thomas FIRTH in Hamilton Cty who fit the time period and was born > in England. However, I can't figure out if he is the same one who was b. in > Bingley in 1826! > > So far I have contacted the probate court in Cincinnati for possible > naturalization records but they found nothing. Then I sent money to the > University library to get a copy of a marriage certificate which could be > him -- Thomas Firth m. Zillah Wilson on 28, March, 1851 in Peoria IL. (I had > found that marriage by looking at online marriages with his name and the > general year.) > > The marriage certificate proved nothing because they were married by a > justice of the peace and there are no parents' names! > > On the 1880 US census I have Thomas and his wife Gilah (Zillah?) nee Wilson > ages 54 and 45. Children are John, Ida, George, Ella, Norman, Corra, Lillie. > I have found records for a John M Firth, a George Firth, and Norman Firth > that fit the right time and place for their sons. > > The big question is this---how can I see if this Thomas FIRTH, age 54 on the > 1880 census is the same Thomas FIRTH b. 1826 in England that my friend is > looking for? > > I've been trying to crack this case since September and would love it if > anyone can offer any help. > > Best regards, Lois in Massachusetts > > > > > > > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >