I guess having one record at the North German Lutheran Church and one at St. John the Baptist Catholic Church greatly reduces the chance that the two women were sisters. I spent quite awhile combing through the online probate and will/estate records this afternoon. Even though I felt like a kid with a new toy, I still couldn't come up with much to further my Menke/Koetting family line. I did find a little bit on a John G. Koetting who appears to have died quite young. --------------------- 1850 United States Federal Census > Ohio > Hamilton > Cincinnati Ward 11 602 Kotting John G 23 abt 1827 Male Germany 602 Kotting Mary 25 abt 1825 Female Germany 602 Kotting Caroline 2 abt 1848 Female Ohio --------------------------------- http://www.hcgsdata.org/brides/Kni-Kram.shtml 1850-59 5-C-CC Kloppenburg, Heinric Koetting, Catharine (I'm still looking for the definition of the source code on that one) ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 Mar 4, 1852 Adminstration granted unto Catharine Koetting, William Deho and Joseph Wrocklage, sureties, Bond $350 John Henry Urlage, Henry Moorhern, and Arnold Urlage apprs. Bond taken and letters issued. March 16, 1853 Inventory Filed May 19, 1853 Administration de bonesnon granted unto John Henry Kloppenburg. The widow Catharine Koetting having intermarried John Gerard Spieker, and Linus Wahoff, sureties, Bond $500 Bond taken and letters issued. July 14 Account current and vouchers filed and suspended. June 4, 1855 Account current and vouchers allowed and confirmed. ---------------------------- I will look into the SOMMER/KETTING marriage and see what I can find on that one. Thanks for sending that along. Best Regards, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <annbergelt@aol.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > > The index reference is: > > "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849" > > BON, Joseph H. - Koetting, Maria 7 Dec. 1848 EE (code is for St. John the > Baptist Cath. ch.) > > In that time frame, the only Koetting brides were the above and the Menke > bride. > > But -- there is also a KETTING, A.M.Gesina who married Herman Hein. SOMMER > 19 Nov 1848 at Holy Trinity. Could be a spelling/transcription variation. > > Ann