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    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. can someone post the link to these records? Thanks =

    01/06/2010 08:23:49
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. after waiting -- what? two years-- for these records to come online, I have been disappointed. I have all kinds of relatives in Cinti. from the 1800's and have only found a few records. guess I was expecting too much to have them organized so a name search would work. and the Wills, after Feb. of 1884 don't even have a master index to search, death records require knowing who reported the death. I know there were courthouse fires and if people did not take their records back to be recorded again, they won't be there...............all I can say, is I'm glad this isn't the only source for information. -----Original Message----- From: almamagis@fuse.net To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE I too am having a problem with finding people. I only found my grandparents rom 1910. was hoping there might be a workshop on it but that won't help people out of he area. Jeanne ---- Tom <texastee10@att.net> wrote: Does anyone have an idea of the breakdown of these 1.1 million records? Having scanned the menu it seems to me that marriage record would be the most numerous of all options. I have family in Cincinnati since the 1840's with a number of marriages to date but I in spite of that I have found about 90% of the returns come back with an invalid Volume. And yes, I have put an A, B, and C in front of the volume, this has helped on a rare occasion. Seems to me that 1.1 million includes the amount of people listed on the marriage index but not the certificate itself. I'm I the only one who's banging their head against the wall or am I missing a trick? Thank you, Tom > Today, the Cincinnati Enquirer announcd that 1.1 million Hamilton Co. > court > documents such as birth, death, marriage, estate, naturalization and oter > records - some dating back to 1791, go online to: To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

    01/06/2010 08:21:41
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. Carol Sanman
    3. There were some books that were only reconstructed records. Some were those that were sworn statements about the marriage/bond taking place. Others were actual reconstructions of the records. On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Amy D wrote: > The marriages were one of the records almost completely lost in the fires. > They were largely reconstructed from church and newspaper records that still > exist. I don' t know why they would list volumes for the certificates if > they don't exist. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tom <texastee10@att.net> wrote: > >> Does anyone have an idea of the breakdown of these 1.1 million records? >> >> Having scanned the menu it seems to me that marriage record would be the >> most numerous of all options. I have family in Cincinnati since the 1840's >> with a number of marriages to date but I in spite of that I have found >> about >> 90% of the returns come back with an invalid Volume. And yes, I have put >> an >> A, B, and C in front of the volume, this has helped on a rare occasion. >> Seems to me that 1.1 million includes the amount of people listed on the >> marriage index but not the certificate itself. I'm I the only one who's >> banging their head against the wall or am I missing a trick? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Tom >> >> >>> Today, the Cincinnati Enquirer announcd that 1.1 million Hamilton Co. >>> court >>> documents such as birth, death, marriage, estate, naturalization and oter >>> records - some dating back to 1791, go online to: >> >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/06/2010 08:15:49
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. Amy D
    3. The marriages were one of the records almost completely lost in the fires. They were largely reconstructed from church and newspaper records that still exist. I don' t know why they would list volumes for the certificates if they don't exist. On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tom <texastee10@att.net> wrote: > Does anyone have an idea of the breakdown of these 1.1 million records? > > Having scanned the menu it seems to me that marriage record would be the > most numerous of all options. I have family in Cincinnati since the 1840's > with a number of marriages to date but I in spite of that I have found > about > 90% of the returns come back with an invalid Volume. And yes, I have put > an > A, B, and C in front of the volume, this has helped on a rare occasion. > Seems to me that 1.1 million includes the amount of people listed on the > marriage index but not the certificate itself. I'm I the only one who's > banging their head against the wall or am I missing a trick? > > Thank you, > > Tom > > > > Today, the Cincinnati Enquirer announcd that 1.1 million Hamilton Co. > > court > > documents such as birth, death, marriage, estate, naturalization and oter > > records - some dating back to 1791, go online to: > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/06/2010 07:48:27
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. I too am having a problem with finding people. I only found my grandparents from 1910. I was hoping there might be a workshop on it but that won't help people out of the area. Jeanne ---- Tom <texastee10@att.net> wrote: > Does anyone have an idea of the breakdown of these 1.1 million records? > > Having scanned the menu it seems to me that marriage record would be the > most numerous of all options. I have family in Cincinnati since the 1840's > with a number of marriages to date but I in spite of that I have found about > 90% of the returns come back with an invalid Volume. And yes, I have put an > A, B, and C in front of the volume, this has helped on a rare occasion. > Seems to me that 1.1 million includes the amount of people listed on the > marriage index but not the certificate itself. I'm I the only one who's > banging their head against the wall or am I missing a trick? > > Thank you, > > Tom > > > > Today, the Cincinnati Enquirer announcd that 1.1 million Hamilton Co. > > court > > documents such as birth, death, marriage, estate, naturalization and oter > > records - some dating back to 1791, go online to: > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/06/2010 07:47:57
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. Tom
    3. I've run into many instances where a fire was given credit for missing record, this to include my Army records in St Louis which miraculously were resurrected a few years later, if individuals listed ON the index link to nothing, then it shouldn't be stated those records are available as part of 1.1 million. Just having an index is virtually meaningless. When in Cincinnati, I've had no problem finding the actual marriage record from the index. In fact, I have one record that is on page 506 but when input into the Volume/Page portion it comes back as an invalid volume. I wouldn't be trumpeting this as a huge accomplishment with so much missing. I hope the originals haven't been destroyed because this effort has huge holds to fill. Tom -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amy D" <froneamy@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:48 PM To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE > The marriages were one of the records almost completely lost in the fires. > They were largely reconstructed from church and newspaper records that > still > exist. I don' t know why they would list volumes for the certificates if > they don't exist. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Tom <texastee10@att.net> wrote: > >> Does anyone have an idea of the breakdown of these 1.1 million records? >> >> Having scanned the menu it seems to me that marriage record would be the >> most numerous of all options. I have family in Cincinnati since the >> 1840's >> with a number of marriages to date but I in spite of that I have found >> about >> 90% of the returns come back with an invalid Volume. And yes, I have put >> an >> A, B, and C in front of the volume, this has helped on a rare occasion. >> Seems to me that 1.1 million includes the amount of people listed on the >> marriage index but not the certificate itself. I'm I the only one who's >> banging their head against the wall or am I missing a trick? >> >> Thank you, >> >> Tom >> >> >> > Today, the Cincinnati Enquirer announcd that 1.1 million Hamilton Co. >> > court >> > documents such as birth, death, marriage, estate, naturalization and >> > oter >> > records - some dating back to 1791, go online to: >> >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/06/2010 07:04:02
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. Tom
    3. Does anyone have an idea of the breakdown of these 1.1 million records? Having scanned the menu it seems to me that marriage record would be the most numerous of all options. I have family in Cincinnati since the 1840's with a number of marriages to date but I in spite of that I have found about 90% of the returns come back with an invalid Volume. And yes, I have put an A, B, and C in front of the volume, this has helped on a rare occasion. Seems to me that 1.1 million includes the amount of people listed on the marriage index but not the certificate itself. I'm I the only one who's banging their head against the wall or am I missing a trick? Thank you, Tom > Today, the Cincinnati Enquirer announcd that 1.1 million Hamilton Co. > court > documents such as birth, death, marriage, estate, naturalization and oter > records - some dating back to 1791, go online to:

    01/06/2010 05:44:50
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Wrights in Southside
    2. Hi Diana, I think you posted your message to the wrong mailing list. This list is for Hamilton County, OH. You would probably have better luck posting to Lunenburg Co. VA, since it seems that the family you're seeking was from VA. You can subscribe to that mailing list here: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/usa/VA/lunenburg.html Good Luck in your search, Marilyn - List Administrator ------------original message--------------- In a message dated 1/2/2010 10:09:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, deae@consolidated.net writes: Looking for the Wright family in Lunenburg Co. & surrounding areas. My Reuben Wright was born in VA in 1779. In 1798, he married Joanna Gilbert in Sussex Co. VA & moved to Greene Co. OH, along with the Wrights of Brunswick Co. VA, to start the Methodist-Episcopal denomination in that area. I'm assuming that, if he wasn't adopted or otherwise just "took" the name of Wright, he was related to the Wrights who were so prevalent in Brunswick Co. in the 1700-1800s. My Reuben & Joanna then moved on to Henry/Hancock Co. IN where they were also heavily involved with the M-E denomination. Both died at daughter, Margaret Wright Miller's home between 1851 & 1856. I don't know where they were buried. The only children that I've found so far for this couple, after 10 years of research, are: David Gerrard b abt 1802, lived in Hancock Co. IN & married Sarah Neibarger in Greene Co. OH. Margaret b abt 1816, lived in Hancock Co. IN & married Thos B. Miller, a M-E minister. Rebecca married David Stoddard & a McClary/McClay/McKay & d in OH. James Gilbert, b abt 1814, married Lucinda McComas in 1830, Rush Co. IN & then moved to Jasper & Clark Co. IL. James & Lucinda were my 3rd gr grandparents & James was a circuit-rider for the M-E Church. DNA tests done on a desc of Reuben Wright show a relationship with the Wright family of Lunenburg Co. VA who married into the Jarrett, Gerrard, Garrett, etc & Mize families. I would like to know if any DNA testing has been done on desc from the Brunswick Co. VA group of Wrights. I'm trying to find the parents & origins of my Reuben Wright & also his wife, Joanna Gilbert. Thank you, Diane Ethridge Conroe, TX

    01/04/2010 12:21:16
    1. [OHHAMILT] WRIGHT - STODDARD - MCCLAY of Hancock Co. IN & Hamilton Co. OH
    2. Diane Ethridge
    3. Thank you, List Administrator, for reminding me to post the info that I neglected to post on my earlier message. Rebecca Wright, b 1810 in VA, moved with her parents to Hancock Co. IN & married David Stoddard. Rebecca & David Stoddard moved to Hamilton Co. OH & were in the 1840 census there. They evidently divorced because in 1847, she married Dr. Samuel McClay & was still living in Hamilton Co. but David Stoddard was living in Lawrence Co. OH. Rebecca was the daughter of Reuben & Joanna (Gilbert) Wright of Sussex/Lunenburg Co. VA. Any info on these folks will be appreciated. Diane Ethridge Conroe, TX

    01/04/2010 11:58:37
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] PROBATE COURT RECORDS ONLINE
    2. phyllis anderson
    3. One question on the Naturalization records where do you put the volume number an page to see the file or is it just the index so far on naturalization records phyllis

    01/04/2010 06:01:44
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Fenton and Eliza Israel LAWSON
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Margo, perhaps there will be some clues here. What is in parentheses is where they were born (as near as I can tell from cross checking other people listed with known birthplaces): In the 1840 Shaffer's Cincinnati City Directory: F. Lawson & Brothers, Copper and Tin Ware Manufacturers, Es Main bet 4th and 5th Fenton Lawson (Eng) [FL & Brothers] res, Long b Elm and Plum Robert Lawson (Eng) [FL& Brothers] bds at T Lawson's sr. Thomas Lawson sr (Eng) res, 8th b Vine and Race Thomas Lawson jr (O) [FL & Brothers] bds at T Lawson's sr. There is only one other Lawson listed and they are from Virginia: B.S. Lawson MD, res Ns 6th b Wes R and John [note: Wes R stands for Western Row] There is also a simple half page advertisement in the book for F. Lawson & Brothers. My scanner broke today but I will hopefully get it fixed this week. I can send you a scan or a photocopy if you like. Just let me know which. No Israel's listed. 5 Erwin's are listed but women are not included in the listing unless employed. Phyllis -----Original Message----- Subject: [OHHAMILT] Fenton and Eliza Israel LAWSON      I am searching for Fenton and Eliza Israel LAWSON. I am trying to find out where they were married and the maiden name of her mother. I think her father was Samue ISRAEL of Philadelphia and her mother was either Elizabeth TAGGART or Mary HARTFORD. I am sure Samuel married Elizabeth TAGGART in 1796 but I still have to find proof of second wife Mary HARTFORD. Samuel ISRAEL's father was Israel ISRAEL and his step mother was Hannah ERWIN. Margo Pomeroy minniemittens@yahoo.com To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamil ton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/03/2010 05:41:11
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] guardianships in general
    2. Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 09:30:37 -0800 From: "Phyllis Garratt" <pgarratt@gessert.us> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records Phyllis noted in her earlier post "It would be very interesting to get more information about guardianship as so many of our ancestors had these types of legal arrangements, especially after the death of the husband." Some general "guardianship" issues explained: A "guardian of the person" is appointed for a minor or incompetent to care for the body of the ward. That means that the guardian then acts as a substitute parent in watching over the individual. So, medical decisions, education, daily living issues and the like would be the parameters of the responsibilities of the "guardian of the person". A "guardian of the estate" would be appointed to manage the financial affairs of the ward. So, investment decisions, taking custody of assets, whether personal property or a share in real property would come under that person's parameters. Let us then throw in the male vs. female issues from our history that indicate that males were required where one needed the ability to hold title, make business decisions etc. A carry over from Old English Law, but one we must recognize existed in our early law system as well. In addition, few women were educated in business matters [on a formal schooling basis and on a Dad never let daughters get involved in such matters basis] Thus, judges appointing guardians would tend not to appoint females to positions requiring business expertise or knowledge. Another legal issue could be involved. Where one is an heir and her children are also heirs, there is a natural conflict of interest when it comes to making decisions to invest, sell, or buy property. Where a decision benefits one group of heirs, it may at the same time, be adverse to the interests of another group of heirs. Thus an independent person looking after the interests of one group may be needed to protect the interests of the wards in that group. Thus a "Guardian Ad Litem" may be appointed to represent that person/group for purposes of a legal proceeding. That would likely have been a male relative given the male vs. female issue. Or, Judge could appoint a friend of his or a polital party affiliate to handle such items for the fees that it would generate. So, a logical start would be to examine which type of guardian was needed? What relationship existed outside of the court proceeding between the guardian and the ward(s)? Whether the guardianship continued after the probate proceeding was finalize? Whether physical or mental infirmities of the ward existed in addition to the legal impediments to his/her holding property? Legal impediments have changed over time. Minority status, mental incompetence, and even imprisonment could be legal disbilities. Look further. Hope these general observations help in your searches.

    01/03/2010 05:39:58
    1. [OHHAMILT] Fenton and Eliza Israel LAWSON
    2. Margo Pomeroy
    3.      I am searching for Fenton and Eliza Israel LAWSON. I am trying to find out where they were married and the maiden name of her mother. I know Fenton was born in Yorkshire England1803 and she was born in Philadelphia 1814. I think her father was Samue ISRAEL of Philadelphia and her mother was either Elizabeth TAGGART or Mary HARTFORD. I am sure Samuel married Elizabeth TAGGART in 1796 but I still have to find proof of second wife Mary HARTFORD. Samuel ISRAEL's father was Israel ISRAEL and his step mother was Hannah ERWIN. His own mother died probably in Barbados. I have not been able to find Fenton and Eliza's marriage in Cincinnati so I am now looking in Philadelphia but it would help to know the date and place, like what church. I figure they married around 1831, probably in Philadelphia, as George Parke LAWSON, their first child, was born 1832 in Cincinnati. Does anyone know of any old genealogy work done on the LAWSON family of Cincinnati and where it might be now? I need hints, anything big or small will help. If I am right about this Samuel ISRAEL being her father she was from a very important Philadelphia family. I can find no other Samuel in Philadelphia that fits at that time. It was not that big in 1810, the last census before her birth. I am hoping someone from Cincinnati will check under Fenton LAWSON 1803-1853 for me when they go to the Historical Society or Library. Margo Pomeroy minniemittens@yahoo.com

    01/03/2010 12:49:19
    1. [OHHAMILT] Wrights in Southside
    2. Diane Ethridge
    3. Looking for the Wright family in Lunenburg Co. & surrounding areas. My Reuben Wright was born in VA in 1779. In 1798, he married Joanna Gilbert in Sussex Co. VA & moved to Greene Co. OH, along with the Wrights of Brunswick Co. VA, to start the Methodist-Episcopal denomination in that area. I'm assuming that, if he wasn't adopted or otherwise just "took" the name of Wright, he was related to the Wrights who were so prevalent in Brunswick Co. in the 1700-1800s. My Reuben & Joanna then moved on to Henry/Hancock Co. IN where they were also heavily involved with the M-E denomination. Both died at daughter, Margaret Wright Miller's home between 1851 & 1856. I don't know where they were buried. The only children that I've found so far for this couple, after 10 years of research, are: David Gerrard b abt 1802, lived in Hancock Co. IN & married Sarah Neibarger in Greene Co. OH. Margaret b abt 1816, lived in Hancock Co. IN & married Thos B. Miller, a M-E minister. Rebecca married David Stoddard & a McClary/McClay/McKay & d in OH. James Gilbert, b abt 1814, married Lucinda McComas in 1830, Rush Co. IN & then moved to Jasper & Clark Co. IL. James & Lucinda were my 3rd gr grandparents & James was a circuit-rider for the M-E Church. DNA tests done on a desc of Reuben Wright show a relationship with the Wright family of Lunenburg Co. VA who married into the Jarrett, Gerrard, Garrett, etc & Mize families. I would like to know if any DNA testing has been done on desc from the Brunswick Co. VA group of Wrights. I'm trying to find the parents & origins of my Reuben Wright & also his wife, Joanna Gilbert. Thank you, Diane Ethridge Conroe, TX

    01/02/2010 02:07:39
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records
    2. Phyllis and all, it is not so that the mother was not made guardian. I found that Lana (Lena) Goldsmith was made guardian of her two young sons after her husband died in 1844. It may be that they were left property. Later when Lena remarried the two boys had other guardians until they reached 21. It's wonderful that some of the Hamilton Co. stuff is now online!! Sandi -----Original Message----- It does not mean the mother had died. Men were made guardians, not women. Phyllis

    01/02/2010 04:57:00
    1. [OHHAMILT] SEARCH PROBATE RECORDS ONLINE
    2. It seems some of you know which volume to search. Did you view the index for each volume or is there an easier way? Patricia Lebanon OH

    01/02/2010 04:38:36
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Correction to my last post. It should have read " Or my great grandfather was made guardian of his wife's sister's children after her husband had passed (1877)." Phyllis -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records Or my great grandfather was made guardian of his wife's children after her husband had passed (1877).

    01/02/2010 03:24:03
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Thanks Sandi. It would be very interesting to get more information about guardianship as so many of our ancestors had these types of legal arrangements, especially after the death of the husband. I've run across many records in my family where an older adult brother was made guardian (1882), not the surviving mother. Or my great grandfather was made guardian of his wife's children after her husband had passed (1877). All very interesting and if we knew the legal reasons, I'm sure it would yield some clues. Phyllis -----Original Message----- It may be that they were left property. Later when Lena remarried the two boys had other guardians until they reached 21.

    01/02/2010 02:30:37
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records
    2. Barbara Ward
    3. Would love to find some kind of record re my gr gr grandfather David Osborn....named along with his siblings as heirs to Cyrus Osborn, early to mid 1800's.... DNA of his descendants does not match that of the siblings' descendants...Of course, he could be illegitimate, but I'm wondering if Cyrus was named a guardian for some unknown reason.... Really has my entire family mystified!! Any suggestions? Barbara Head Ward in Indiana On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:47:19 -0500 Dennis Kowallek <kowallek@iglou.com> writes: > On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:07:19 -0800 (PST), Sandy Wallace > <sandyhwallace@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > >I was able to get into the new online records and found my male > ancestor named guardian to his brother's children in 1843. Does > this mean the mother had died too? Or could mothers not be > guardian's of their own children then? The new information was > wonderful, but I'm still trying to unravel it all. > > I have a case where the father was named guardian of his own child. > This > was because the child, a minor, received an inheritance from his > deceased mother's father. So a legal guardian was named to manage > the > inheritance until the boy was 21 years old. > > So the answer to your question might involve the circumstances for > which > the guardianship was required. > > I also vaguely recall a situation similar to your's ... where the > widow's brother was named guardian of her minor children. > > -- > > Dennis Kowallek - kowallek@iglou.com > Research in Butler Co., Ohio > http://butler.kowallekfamily.com/index.htm > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: > Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives > here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.ha milton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Diet Help Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=canctiJ-iIP8Y4V_pJgREAAAJ1CfLv-2USU3smwscMefYXjeAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYQAAAAAA=

    01/01/2010 06:30:43
    1. Re: [OHHAMILT] Guardianship records
    2. Dennis Kowallek
    3. On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:07:19 -0800 (PST), Sandy Wallace <sandyhwallace@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >I was able to get into the new online records and found my male ancestor named guardian to his brother's children in 1843. Does this mean the mother had died too? Or could mothers not be guardian's of their own children then? The new information was wonderful, but I'm still trying to unravel it all. I have a case where the father was named guardian of his own child. This was because the child, a minor, received an inheritance from his deceased mother's father. So a legal guardian was named to manage the inheritance until the boy was 21 years old. So the answer to your question might involve the circumstances for which the guardianship was required. I also vaguely recall a situation similar to your's ... where the widow's brother was named guardian of her minor children. -- Dennis Kowallek - kowallek@iglou.com Research in Butler Co., Ohio http://butler.kowallekfamily.com/index.htm

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