New Richmond is a small town on the Ohio River in Clermont Co, the next county east of Hamilton co. I no nothing of the cemeteries near there. Suggest you go to the Clermont Co. board, where you'll likely find local assistance.

Namens-Liste der Mitglieder des Deutschen Pionier=Vereins von Cincinnati Die mit + bezeichneten Namen sind seit der Gründung des Vereins gestorben. Name-List of the members of the German Pioneer-Club/Society of Cincinnati The names signed by + (belong to members) who have passed away since foundation of the club This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is interested: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film #1763571 Best Regards, Kathy in MN www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time.

sorry - meant to include the library's link http://www.daytonmetrolibrary.org/research-a-databases/history-a-genealogy ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Yes, Ralph's brother Herbert's middle initial is C and he did live in > Dayton. I > don't know about Ralph's wife as yet. JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:28:49 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > Is it possible that Herbert Spettel's middle initial was "C"? And, did > Ralph Robert Spettel marry a "Helen?" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com >> reference >> the directory listing, thanks much! >> JC >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> >> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio >> >> >> There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory >> (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: >> >> Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in >> 1930? >> >> 1930 United States Federal Census >> about Robert R Spettel >> Name: Robert R Spettel >> Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio >> View Map >> Age: 27 >> Estimated birth year: abt 1903 >> Birthplace: Ohio >> Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law >> Race: White >> Occupation: >> >> Education: >> >> Military service: >> >> Rent/home value: >> >> Age at first marriage: >> >> Parents' birthplace: View image >> Neighbors: View others on page >> Household Members: Name Age >> Charles W Ernsting 38 >> Esther E Ernsting 34 >> Shirley E Ernsting 3 >> Robert R Spettel 27 >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> >> To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM >> Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio >> >> >>> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank >>> G. >> & >>> Kate >>> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >>> have >>> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >>> >>> >>> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >>> interested in >>> hearing from you. >>> >>> JC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >>> >>> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >>> >>> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >>> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >>x >> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? 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I would suggest contacting Dayton, OH library to see if they can find an obituary for this Helen Spettel. Since you have her death date, they should be able to search the newspapers. From what I've read online, you should be able to make the request via email or phone. (I know that for Cincinnati/Hamilton Co., the library can and will email you the obit.) If you can obtain this Helen's obit, you might be able to determine one way or the other if she was your Ralph's wife. And with any luck, if she was, perhaps or obit will mention when hubbie died, or perhaps list survivors. Just a suggestion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Yes, Ralph's brother Herbert's middle initial is C and he did live in > Dayton. I > don't know about Ralph's wife as yet. JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:28:49 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > Is it possible that Herbert Spettel's middle initial was "C"? And, did > Ralph Robert Spettel marry a "Helen?" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com >> reference >> the directory listing, thanks much! >> JC >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> >> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio >> >> >> There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory >> (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: >> >> Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in >> 1930? >> >> 1930 United States Federal Census >> about Robert R Spettel >> Name: Robert R Spettel >> Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio >> View Map >> Age: 27 >> Estimated birth year: abt 1903 >> Birthplace: Ohio >> Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law >> Race: White >> Occupation: >> >> Education: >> >> Military service: >> >> Rent/home value: >> >> Age at first marriage: >> >> Parents' birthplace: View image >> Neighbors: View others on page >> Household Members: Name Age >> Charles W Ernsting 38 >> Esther E Ernsting 34 >> Shirley E Ernsting 3 >> Robert R Spettel 27 >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> >> To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM >> Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio >> >> >>> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank >>> G. >> & >>> Kate >>> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >>> have >>> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >>> >>> >>> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >>> interested in >>> hearing from you. >>> >>> JC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >>> >>> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >>> >>> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >>> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >>x >> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? 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Would you happen to have a Johnathon Doll in your line? Middle initial could be a D, J, or H and one tree had Jepson for his middle name. Birth around 1862. Birthplace is Denmark from a census. Paula ---- anchoredup <anchoredup@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ann - no Gustave - > JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "annbergelt@aol.com" <annbergelt@aol.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 2:41:37 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Mueller/Miller & Doll Family > > > Do you perhaps have a "Gustave"? > > >From "Hamilton County, Ohio Marriages 1890-1894" -- > > Doll, Gus - Bayersdoerfer,Lena 4/4/1891 Vol.115, Entry 32 by Vincent Schwab > (Justice of the Peace, Cincinnati Twp.) > > Ann Bergelt > Florida > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: anchoredup <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 2:32 pm > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Mueller/Miller & Doll Family > > > Marian - I don't have an August Doll either! > C > > > ---- Original Message ---- > rom: Marian Dietrich <myrnnch@cinci.rr.com> > o: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > ent: Fri, July 9, 2010 5:07:20 PM > ubject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Mueller/Miller & Doll Family > Her marriage record states that her parents were August Doll and Lena > eyersdorfer. > ----- Original Message ----- > rom: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > o: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> > ent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:19 PM > ubject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Mueller/Miller & Doll Family > > Sorry, no Anna Doll in my file yet! Do you know who her parents were? > > JC > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Marian Dietrich <myrnnch@cinci.rr.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 12:11:48 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Mueller/Miller & Doll Family > > Is Anna Doll, who married William Huber in 1920 part of your Doll family? > Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 9:51 PM > Subject: [OHHAMILT] Mueller/Miller & Doll Family> > > > Hi - I'm researching the Mueller/Miller and Doll family line. Joseph > > Doll > > immigrated from Germany circa 1856 and his wife Mary Ann Miller/Mueller > > circa 1852 also from Germany. They were married at Our Lady of Victory > > Church, Delhi in 1865. I have been able to document 12 of possibly 13 of > > their children. > > > > Would like to contact anyone who is also researching this line. > > > > JC > > o contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > ttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > he subject and the body of the message > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > ttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess having one record at the North German Lutheran Church and one at St. John the Baptist Catholic Church greatly reduces the chance that the two women were sisters. I spent quite awhile combing through the online probate and will/estate records this afternoon. Even though I felt like a kid with a new toy, I still couldn't come up with much to further my Menke/Koetting family line. I did find a little bit on a John G. Koetting who appears to have died quite young. --------------------- 1850 United States Federal Census > Ohio > Hamilton > Cincinnati Ward 11 602 Kotting John G 23 abt 1827 Male Germany 602 Kotting Mary 25 abt 1825 Female Germany 602 Kotting Caroline 2 abt 1848 Female Ohio --------------------------------- http://www.hcgsdata.org/brides/Kni-Kram.shtml 1850-59 5-C-CC Kloppenburg, Heinric Koetting, Catharine (I'm still looking for the definition of the source code on that one) ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 Mar 4, 1852 Adminstration granted unto Catharine Koetting, William Deho and Joseph Wrocklage, sureties, Bond $350 John Henry Urlage, Henry Moorhern, and Arnold Urlage apprs. Bond taken and letters issued. March 16, 1853 Inventory Filed May 19, 1853 Administration de bonesnon granted unto John Henry Kloppenburg. The widow Catharine Koetting having intermarried John Gerard Spieker, and Linus Wahoff, sureties, Bond $500 Bond taken and letters issued. July 14 Account current and vouchers filed and suspended. June 4, 1855 Account current and vouchers allowed and confirmed. ---------------------------- I will look into the SOMMER/KETTING marriage and see what I can find on that one. Thanks for sending that along. Best Regards, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <annbergelt@aol.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > > The index reference is: > > "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849" > > BON, Joseph H. - Koetting, Maria 7 Dec. 1848 EE (code is for St. John the > Baptist Cath. ch.) > > In that time frame, the only Koetting brides were the above and the Menke > bride. > > But -- there is also a KETTING, A.M.Gesina who married Herman Hein. SOMMER > 19 Nov 1848 at Holy Trinity. Could be a spelling/transcription variation. > > Ann

If Helen was a possible wife to your Ralph Robert Spettel, perhaps this is she, indicating Ralph Robert Spettel died prior to 1986, and possibly in Dayton. Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2002 about Helen C Spettel Name: Helen C Spettel Birth Date: 1909 Birth State: Ohio Birth Country: United States Gender: Female Race: White Residence City: Kettering Residence County: Montgomery Residence State: Ohio Residence Country: United States Death Date: 1 Jan 1986 Hospital of Death: Long-Term Care Facilities City of Death: Montgomery County County of Death: Montgomery Certificate: 005368 Age at Death: 77 Certifier: Physician Autopsy: Yes, used for certification Social Security Number: 290-36-7734 Marital Status: Widowed Industry of Decedent: Nursing and personal care facilities Occupation of Decedent: Managers and administrators, not elsewhere classified Census Tract: 0205 ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com > reference > the directory listing, thanks much! > JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > > There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory > (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. > > > > > In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: > > Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in > 1930? > > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Robert R Spettel > Name: Robert R Spettel > Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio > View Map > Age: 27 > Estimated birth year: abt 1903 > Birthplace: Ohio > Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law > Race: White > Occupation: > > Education: > > Military service: > > Rent/home value: > > Age at first marriage: > > Parents' birthplace: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Charles W Ernsting 38 > Esther E Ernsting 34 > Shirley E Ernsting 3 > Robert R Spettel 27 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM > Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank G. > & >> Kate >> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >> have >> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >> >> >> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >> interested in >> hearing from you. >> >> JC >> >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? 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Just found a great-uncle's death certificate. He was buried in Green Mound New Richmond OH. Does anyone know where it is or what it might be called today? The great uncle was Robert St. Clair ROE Thank you

Is it possible that Herbert Spettel's middle initial was "C"? And, did Ralph Robert Spettel marry a "Helen?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com > reference > the directory listing, thanks much! > JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > > There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory > (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. > > > > > In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: > > Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in > 1930? > > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Robert R Spettel > Name: Robert R Spettel > Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio > View Map > Age: 27 > Estimated birth year: abt 1903 > Birthplace: Ohio > Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law > Race: White > Occupation: > > Education: > > Military service: > > Rent/home value: > > Age at first marriage: > > Parents' birthplace: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Charles W Ernsting 38 > Esther E Ernsting 34 > Shirley E Ernsting 3 > Robert R Spettel 27 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM > Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank G. > & >> Kate >> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >> have >> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >> >> >> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >> interested in >> hearing from you. >> >> JC >> >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamil > ton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject > > and the body of the message > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, Ralph's brother Herbert's middle initial is C and he did live in Dayton. I don't know about Ralph's wife as yet. JC ----- Original Message ---- From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:28:49 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio Is it possible that Herbert Spettel's middle initial was "C"? And, did Ralph Robert Spettel marry a "Helen?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com > reference > the directory listing, thanks much! > JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > > There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory > (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. > > > > > In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: > > Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in > 1930? > > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Robert R Spettel > Name: Robert R Spettel > Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio > View Map > Age: 27 > Estimated birth year: abt 1903 > Birthplace: Ohio > Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law > Race: White > Occupation: > > Education: > > Military service: > > Rent/home value: > > Age at first marriage: > > Parents' birthplace: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Charles W Ernsting 38 > Esther E Ernsting 34 > Shirley E Ernsting 3 > Robert R Spettel 27 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM > Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank G. > & >> Kate >> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >> have >> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >> >> >> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >> interested in >> hearing from you. >> >> JC >> >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >x > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? 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I have no documentation of Ralph's wife as yet. JC ----- Original Message ---- From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 10:00:33 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio If Helen was a possible wife to your Ralph Robert Spettel, perhaps this is she, indicating Ralph Robert Spettel died prior to 1986, and possibly in Dayton. Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2002 about Helen C Spettel Name: Helen C Spettel Birth Date: 1909 Birth State: Ohio Birth Country: United States Gender: Female Race: White Residence City: Kettering Residence County: Montgomery Residence State: Ohio Residence Country: United States Death Date: 1 Jan 1986 Hospital of Death: Long-Term Care Facilities City of Death: Montgomery County County of Death: Montgomery Certificate: 005368 Age at Death: 77 Certifier: Physician Autopsy: Yes, used for certification Social Security Number: 290-36-7734 Marital Status: Widowed Industry of Decedent: Nursing and personal care facilities Occupation of Decedent: Managers and administrators, not elsewhere classified Census Tract: 0205 ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com > reference > the directory listing, thanks much! > JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > > There is a Ralph R. 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The index reference is: "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849" BON, Joseph H. - Koetting, Maria 7 Dec. 1848 EE (code is for St. John the Baptist Cath. ch.) In that time frame, the only Koetting brides were the above and the Menke bride. But -- there is also a KETTING, A.M.Gesina who married Herman Hein. SOMMER 19 Nov 1848 at Holy Trinity. Could be a spelling/transcription variation. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> To: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 5:16 pm Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage I just thought I would mention that I have found Joseph and Maria Bonn in he 1850. I am hoping to find that Maria/Mary will turn out to be a younger ister of my Catherine (Kötting/Koetting) Menke. 1850 United States Federal Census > Ohio > Hamilton > Cincinnati Ward 11 522 Bonn Joseph 40 (b. abt 1810) Male, Merchant, Germany 522 Bonn Mary 24 (b. abt 1826) Female Germany 522 Bonn Hugo 0 (b. abt 1850) Male Ohio 522 Brauner Mary 15 (b. abt 1835) Female Germany I'm not seeing a Mary/Maria or Hugo Bonn on the 1860 any where. There are nly two Hugo's born about 1850 in OH on the 1860 and neither one of them ook like they might be this little boy. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- rom: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> o: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 3:07 PM ubject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage Thanks, Ann. I did a websearch for "Hamilton county Ohio Probate records" and came up with the site that I think you are referring to. I did find an early Koetting in the "K" list. http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 Also, this might be a big clue that leads somewhere - Restored Hamilton Co., OH Marriages 1808-1849 Koetting, Maria Bon, Joseph H. 7 Dec 1848 Code: EE http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/rad47522.pdf 676 Bonn, Joseph Jan 19, 1853 1 164 I have searched for him on the 1850 before, but have not been able to locate them in Hamilton Co. Many Thanks, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. o contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: ttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Kathy, The Hamilton Probate Court online database does have the record of the marriage of Ernst Menke and Anna Maria Catherine Koetting, Book A14, pg 311. If you have trouble accessing it, I saved a copy and can backchannel it to you if you like. Pat Salt

I just thought I would mention that I have found Joseph and Maria Bonn in the 1850. I am hoping to find that Maria/Mary will turn out to be a younger sister of my Catherine (Kötting/Koetting) Menke. 1850 United States Federal Census > Ohio > Hamilton > Cincinnati Ward 11 2522 Bonn Joseph 40 (b. abt 1810) Male, Merchant, Germany 2522 Bonn Mary 24 (b. abt 1826) Female Germany 2522 Bonn Hugo 0 (b. abt 1850) Male Ohio 2522 Brauner Mary 15 (b. abt 1835) Female Germany I'm not seeing a Mary/Maria or Hugo Bonn on the 1860 any where. There are only two Hugo's born about 1850 in OH on the 1860 and neither one of them look like they might be this little boy. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > Thanks, Ann. I did a websearch for "Hamilton county Ohio Probate > records" > and came up with the site that I think you are referring to. I did find > an > early Koetting in the "K" list. > > http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf > 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 > > Also, this might be a big clue that leads somewhere - > Restored Hamilton Co., OH Marriages 1808-1849 > Koetting, Maria Bon, Joseph H. 7 Dec 1848 Code: EE > > http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/rad47522.pdf > 676 Bonn, Joseph Jan 19, 1853 1 164 > > I have searched for him on the 1850 before, but have not been able to > locate > them in Hamilton Co. > > Many Thanks, > Kathy > www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a > time. >

Thank you, Pat! I was stumbling around in those record indexes still trying to figure out which book I needed. With your directions I was able to go right to it. Unfortunately the record doesn't name any marriage witnesses or bondsmen, but I am still very, very happy to have a copy of that. Best Regards, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Salt" <pat@saltfamily.us> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 3:21 PM Subject: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > Kathy, > > The Hamilton Probate Court online database does have the record of the > marriage of Ernst Menke and Anna Maria Catherine Koetting, Book A14, pg > 311. If you have trouble accessing it, I saved a copy and can > backchannel it to you if you like. > > Pat Salt > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That means that they were both buried at Baltimore Pike Cemetery. It used to be called Raschig's. It is a Catholic Cemetery that is now being administered by the Cincinnati Catholic Cemetery Assn. Records are at Baltimore Pike. Some are computerized at Old St Joseph's. On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:42 PM, annbergelt@aol.com wrote: > > Per prior discussion about an August or Gus DOLL, > > Go to the FamilySearch Beta records site. There is a death record for Rosa DURBEC in 1953 - gives her parents as August DOLL and Marie BIERSDOFFER - she was buried in Baltimore Pike Cemetery. > > Also is a death cert. for Aug. DOLL born 1872, parents Frank Doll and Minnie TEITS, buried in Raschig's Cemetery. He was married, but his wife's name is not mentioned on the dc. > > Ann > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Per prior discussion about an August or Gus DOLL, Go to the FamilySearch Beta records site. There is a death record for Rosa DURBEC in 1953 - gives her parents as August DOLL and Marie BIERSDOFFER - she was buried in Baltimore Pike Cemetery. Also is a death cert. for Aug. DOLL born 1872, parents Frank Doll and Minnie TEITS, buried in Raschig's Cemetery. He was married, but his wife's name is not mentioned on the dc. Ann

The catalog for the LDS Family History Library does list a film with North German Lutheran church records. The microfilm number is 1763571, and it contains Baptisms 1863-1882, Marriages 1863-1882, Deaths 1863-1881, Banns 1838-1840, supporting documents for marriages 1838-1854 and 1902-1928. You might find something by looking at the film if you can get it to a nearby LDS family history center. Ann -----Original Message----- From: annbergelt <annbergelt@aol.com> To: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 3:12 pm Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage athy; >From "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849: Menke, Ernst - Koetting, Anna Cath. 19 Nov 1845 North German Lutheran Church The list of churches at the beginning of the index book says the only location iven for that church's records is the Public Library of Cincinnati, but I onder if it might not also be in the Family History Library Collection? Also, I'm not sure about the date, but the Hamilton County Probate records site oes have some marriages available. Ann Bergelt lorida ----Original Message----- rom: Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> o: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> ent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 3:01 pm ubject: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage ello to the Hamilton Co. Researchers! his is my first attempt at finding old Hamilton Co. records. I spent about 15 ars looking for a marriage record in Clayton Co. Iowa and, just recently, other researcher turned up a mention of it in Hamilton Co., Ohio. believe the record is at the North German Lutheran Church. tp://www.hcgsdata.org/grooms/Mein-Meyerr.shtml milton County Genealogical Society ncinnati Marriage Indexes 40-49 E-P-F Menke, Ernst Koetting, Anna Cath. have the exact date of the marriage as 19 Nov 1845. I wrote to the Public brary and asked if they could obtain a copy of that record for me. But they ote back saying that they "tried to read the North German Lutheran Church film t it simply too faded to make out many names. We did not see a Menke, tting, Dubbels or Ribbe - but it could be there. While the names of the the ide and groom are difficult to make the rest of the information is almost possible. The roll of film MF929.377177 H217 1989 is readable but it seems to random records thrown together." as anybody else had the good fortune to obtain a legible marriage record in the id-1800s from the North German Lutheran Church? I am really hoping to find me parents or siblings or other family members for Ernst Menke and Anna therine Kötting. OTE: This must have moved to Clayton Co., Iowa almost immediately after their dding, as their first child (listed on the 1850 census) was born in Iowa. deral Census on the 14th of Sept, 1850 for Jefferson Township, Clayton Co., IA numerated by Elipholet ere is a big fat piece of old scotch tape over the first name of the head of usehold, but I'm reasonably certain that the name should be Ernest or Ernst. elling 187 Family 187 Ernst MENKER, 30, m, Blacksmith, 100 in Real Estate, ace of birth - Ger. therine Menker, 30, f, b. Ger., can not read and write na Menker, 3, f, b. Iowa ry Menker, 2, f, b. Iowa thalena Menker, 1, f, b. Iowa hanks for any help or background knowledge on the early North German Lutheran urch records in Ohio! ave a great weekend, Kathy in MN w.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. o contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com id you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: tp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ on't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: tp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ----------------------------- unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of e message o contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: ttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Kathy; >From "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849: Menke, Ernst - Koetting, Anna Cath. 19 Nov 1845 North German Lutheran Church The list of churches at the beginning of the index book says the only location given for that church's records is the Public Library of Cincinnati, but I wonder if it might not also be in the Family History Library Collection? Also, I'm not sure about the date, but the Hamilton County Probate records site does have some marriages available. Ann Bergelt Florida -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> To: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 3:01 pm Subject: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage Hello to the Hamilton Co. Researchers! This is my first attempt at finding old Hamilton Co. records. I spent about 15 ears looking for a marriage record in Clayton Co. Iowa and, just recently, nother researcher turned up a mention of it in Hamilton Co., Ohio. I believe the record is at the North German Lutheran Church. ttp://www.hcgsdata.org/grooms/Mein-Meyerr.shtml amilton County Genealogical Society incinnati Marriage Indexes 840-49 E-P-F Menke, Ernst Koetting, Anna Cath. I have the exact date of the marriage as 19 Nov 1845. I wrote to the Public ibrary and asked if they could obtain a copy of that record for me. But they rote back saying that they "tried to read the North German Lutheran Church film ut it simply too faded to make out many names. We did not see a Menke, ötting, Dubbels or Ribbe - but it could be there. While the names of the the ride and groom are difficult to make the rest of the information is almost mpossible. The roll of film MF929.377177 H217 1989 is readable but it seems to e random records thrown together." Has anybody else had the good fortune to obtain a legible marriage record in the id-1800s from the North German Lutheran Church? I am really hoping to find ome parents or siblings or other family members for Ernst Menke and Anna atherine Kötting. NOTE: This must have moved to Clayton Co., Iowa almost immediately after their edding, as their first child (listed on the 1850 census) was born in Iowa. ederal Census on the 14th of Sept, 1850 for Jefferson Township, Clayton Co., IA numerated by Elipholet here is a big fat piece of old scotch tape over the first name of the head of ousehold, but I'm reasonably certain that the name should be Ernest or Ernst. welling 187 Family 187 Ernst MENKER, 30, m, Blacksmith, 100 in Real Estate, lace of birth - Ger. atherine Menker, 30, f, b. Ger., can not read and write ina Menker, 3, f, b. Iowa ary Menker, 2, f, b. Iowa athalena Menker, 1, f, b. Iowa Thanks for any help or background knowledge on the early North German Lutheran hurch records in Ohio! Have a great weekend, Kathy in MN ww.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: ttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thanks, Ann. I did a websearch for "Hamilton county Ohio Probate records" and came up with the site that I think you are referring to. I did find an early Koetting in the "K" list. http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 Also, this might be a big clue that leads somewhere - Restored Hamilton Co., OH Marriages 1808-1849 Koetting, Maria Bon, Joseph H. 7 Dec 1848 Code: EE http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/rad47522.pdf 676 Bonn, Joseph Jan 19, 1853 1 164 I have searched for him on the 1850 before, but have not been able to locate them in Hamilton Co. Many Thanks, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <annbergelt@aol.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > > Kathy; > > From "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849: > > Menke, Ernst - Koetting, Anna Cath. 19 Nov 1845 North German Lutheran > Church > > The list of churches at the beginning of the index book says the only > location given for that church's records is the Public Library of > Cincinnati, but I wonder if it might not also be in the Family History > Library Collection? > > Also, I'm not sure about the date, but the Hamilton County Probate records > site does have some marriages available. > > Ann Bergelt > Florida >