The list seems to be earlier than 1910. My Forn great grandfather is not on this list. He died in 1910 and I know he is in one of the German Pioneer Society books at the Cinci Public Library. Peg

I would have to agree with Ann about the possibility of being related. My great grandmother, Louise Waag, was raised German Lutheran and her family is buried in Vine Street Cemetery. My great grandfather, Henry Ausdenmoore, was first generation German Catholic. They were married in a Catholic church, raised their kids Catholic and the oldest son became a Catholic priest, later to be a monsignor. The Ausdenmoores are buried in Catholic cemeteries mostly St Mary's for the time period. Not sure what the Waag family thought about Louise marrying a Catholic but it happened in the late 1800's! Karen Grumski nee Ausdenmoore

Please post your note on the Clermont Co Rootsweb Board. I used to live in Batavia and there is a cemetery listing book at the Batavia Branch of the county Library where they hold their genealogical listings. You might be able to send an email to the Batavia branch and have the librarian do a look up for you. Karen Grumski

I have a couple of relatives buried in Green Mound Cemetery. I no longer live in the Cincinnati area. So I'm trying to remember from memory. I believe that the cemetery is on Green Mound Rd. It runs off of hwy 132. Hwy 132 runs off of hwy 52. coming from Cinncinnati on 52 take a left at 132 and Green Mound Rd is the first or 2nd street to the right. The cemetery is on the left about a mile or less down the road.. I do not know if they have a staff there. Or if there are any records kept there. You might try the courthouse in Batavia, Ohio. I hope that this helps you. Mary At 12:33 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: >Just found a great-uncle's death certificate. He was buried in Green Mound >New Richmond OH. Does anyone know where it is or what it might be called >today? The great uncle was Robert St. Clair ROE > >Thank you > > >To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > >Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > >Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also am interested. Thank you Joy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Amy D" <froneamy@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:04 AM To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer SocietyofCincinnati > I am also interested in seeing the other pages of this list, if they are > available. > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Pat & Bob Quesnel <bpq@comcast.net> > wrote: > >> Could you publish the other pages of the list? If not I am interested in >> the "T" page.. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> >> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:58 PM >> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Society >> ofCincinnati >> >> >> > This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the >> > creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is >> > interested: >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg >> > >> > The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film >> > #1763571 >> > >> >> >> > >> > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> > >> > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> > >> > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> > >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am also interested in seeing the other pages of this list, if they are available. On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Pat & Bob Quesnel <bpq@comcast.net> wrote: > Could you publish the other pages of the list? If not I am interested in > the "T" page.. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:58 PM > To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Society > ofCincinnati > > > > This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the > > creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is interested: > > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg > > > > The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film > > #1763571 > > > >> > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

JC - OK, I won't give up on them just yet. ;) I did notice that most of the MEN(C)KE folks I find are Catholic, while my line was German Lutheran. Maybe both my Menkes and Köttings moved to the German Lutheran faith about the same time? It's really tough to say 150 years after the fact. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > > Kathy - Made me think twice when I began seeing siblings marrying out of > the > family faith and church. I came across this very thing in my research so > maybe chances aren't as greatly reduced as you might think! > JC > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 11:41:33 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > > I guess having one record at the North German Lutheran Church and one at > St. > John the Baptist Catholic Church greatly reduces the chance that the two > women were sisters. > > I spent quite awhile combing through the online probate and will/estate > records this afternoon. Even though I felt like a kid with a new toy, I > still couldn't come up with much to further my Menke/Koetting family line. > I did find a little bit on a John G. Koetting who appears to have died > quite > young. >

Thank you, Peg. I had no idea there was such a book in existence. I will write to the library and see if there are any Menke or Koettings listed in there. I suspect that my direct line left the area too early to be included, but maybe there is a cousin or nephew, etc. that could be listed with some family clues. Many Thanks, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peg FF" <fayfeder@cinci.rr.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Societyof Cincinnati In some presumably later years, the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati produced a book with pictures and information on each of their members who had died. The Cincinnati Public Library downtown in the rare book room has some of these books. This is where I found both of my great grandfathers. Peg Fay-Feder -----Original Message----- From: ohhamilt-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohhamilt-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Hines Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:59 AM To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati Namens-Liste der Mitglieder des Deutschen Pionier=Vereins von Cincinnati Die mit + bezeichneten Namen sind seit der Gründung des Vereins gestorben. Name-List of the members of the German Pioneer-Club/Society of Cincinnati The names signed by + (belong to members) who have passed away since foundation of the club This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is interested: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film #1763571 Best Regards, Kathy in MN To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I posted all eight pages. I apologize, it looks like a name is only half photographed at the top of each page on 4 & 5. I don't have these images linked to anywhere, so here are the direct URLs. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers2.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers3.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers4.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers5.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers6.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers7.jpg http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers8.jpg Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time.

Thank you for the suggestion. Adina -----Original Message----- From: ohhamilt-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohhamilt-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rkgrumski@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:37 AM To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHHAMILT] New Richmond OH Please post your note on the Clermont Co Rootsweb Board. I used to live in Batavia and there is a cemetery listing book at the Batavia Branch of the county Library where they hold their genealogical listings. You might be able to send an email to the Batavia branch and have the librarian do a look up for you. Karen Grumski To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamil ton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2996 - Release Date: 07/10/10 23:36:00

Thanks Ann have added this to my library to do list! JC ----- Original Message ---- From: "annbergelt@aol.com" <annbergelt@aol.com> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 8:56:44 AM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio Since the surname SPETTEL is so unique, you might try this. See if your library has the online database to "America's Obituaries" and do a surname search - not only just for the name of the deceased, but also included in the content of the obit. I first confined it to OHIO papers only and came up with a 2005 Columbus Dispatch obit for Robert Maize, whose daughter Karen was married to Sean Spettel. Then in searching the US (there are only four pages) I found in Covington KY 1998 obit for Max Gross, whose wife's maiden name was Herta Spettel. There were "hits" in various parts of the US, including Iowa, IL and FL. This works well with the rarer names. Too many results with others unless you keep the search confined to a specific area or even a selection of newspapers. Ann Bergelt

Since the surname SPETTEL is so unique, you might try this. See if your library has the online database to "America's Obituaries" and do a surname search - not only just for the name of the deceased, but also included in the content of the obit. I first confined it to OHIO papers only and came up with a 2005 Columbus Dispatch obit for Robert Maize, whose daughter Karen was married to Sean Spettel. Then in searching the US (there are only four pages) I found in Covington KY 1998 obit for Max Gross, whose wife's maiden name was Herta Spettel. There were "hits" in various parts of the US, including Iowa, IL and FL. This works well with the rarer names. Too many results with others unless you keep the search confined to a specific area or even a selection of newspapers. Ann Bergelt -----Original Message----- From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> To: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 11:08 pm Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio sorry - meant to include the library's link ttp://www.daytonmetrolibrary.org/research-a-databases/history-a-genealogy ---- Original Message ----- rom: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> o: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:35 PM ubject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio Yes, Ralph's brother Herbert's middle initial is C and he did live in Dayton. I don't know about Ralph's wife as yet. JC ----- Original Message ---- From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:28:49 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio Is it possible that Herbert Spettel's middle initial was "C"? And, did Ralph Robert Spettel marry a "Helen?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com > reference > the directory listing, thanks much! > JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > > There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory > (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. > > > > > In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: > > Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in > 1930? > > 1930 United States Federal Census > about Robert R Spettel > Name: Robert R Spettel > Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio > View Map > Age: 27 > Estimated birth year: abt 1903 > Birthplace: Ohio > Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law > Race: White > Occupation: > > Education: > > Military service: > > Rent/home value: > > Age at first marriage: > > Parents' birthplace: View image > Neighbors: View others on page > Household Members: Name Age > Charles W Ernsting 38 > Esther E Ernsting 34 > Shirley E Ernsting 3 > Robert R Spettel 27 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM > Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank >> G. > & >> Kate >> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >> have >> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >> >> >> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >> interested in >> hearing from you. >> >> JC >> >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >x > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? 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Kathy - Made me think twice when I began seeing siblings marrying out of the family faith and church. I came across this very thing in my research so maybe chances aren't as greatly reduced as you might think! JC ----- Original Message ---- From: Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 11:41:33 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage I guess having one record at the North German Lutheran Church and one at St. John the Baptist Catholic Church greatly reduces the chance that the two women were sisters. I spent quite awhile combing through the online probate and will/estate records this afternoon. Even though I felt like a kid with a new toy, I still couldn't come up with much to further my Menke/Koetting family line. I did find a little bit on a John G. Koetting who appears to have died quite young. --------------------- 1850 United States Federal Census > Ohio > Hamilton > Cincinnati Ward 11 602 Kotting John G 23 abt 1827 Male Germany 602 Kotting Mary 25 abt 1825 Female Germany 602 Kotting Caroline 2 abt 1848 Female Ohio --------------------------------- http://www.hcgsdata.org/brides/Kni-Kram.shtml 1850-59 5-C-CC Kloppenburg, Heinric Koetting, Catharine (I'm still looking for the definition of the source code on that one) ---------------------------------------------------- http://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 Mar 4, 1852 Adminstration granted unto Catharine Koetting, William Deho and Joseph Wrocklage, sureties, Bond $350 John Henry Urlage, Henry Moorhern, and Arnold Urlage apprs. Bond taken and letters issued. March 16, 1853 Inventory Filed May 19, 1853 Administration de bonesnon granted unto John Henry Kloppenburg. The widow Catharine Koetting having intermarried John Gerard Spieker, and Linus Wahoff, sureties, Bond $500 Bond taken and letters issued. July 14 Account current and vouchers filed and suspended. June 4, 1855 Account current and vouchers allowed and confirmed. ---------------------------- I will look into the SOMMER/KETTING marriage and see what I can find on that one. Thanks for sending that along. Best Regards, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: <annbergelt@aol.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage > > The index reference is: > > "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849" > > BON, Joseph H. - Koetting, Maria 7 Dec. 1848 EE (code is for St. John the > Baptist Cath. ch.) > > In that time frame, the only Koetting brides were the above and the Menke > bride. > > But -- there is also a KETTING, A.M.Gesina who married Herman Hein. SOMMER > 19 Nov 1848 at Holy Trinity. Could be a spelling/transcription variation. > > Ann To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kathy, >From the Restored Marriages index, 1850-59 CC = St. Joseph's Catholic Church Also, I wouldn't discount any relationships because they were married at churches of different faiths. People did make their own choices, even then! Ann Bergelt -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Hines <khines1@qwest.net> To: ohhamilt <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 11:41 pm Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage I guess having one record at the North German Lutheran Church and one at St. ohn the Baptist Catholic Church greatly reduces the chance that the two omen were sisters. I spent quite awhile combing through the online probate and will/estate ecords this afternoon. Even though I felt like a kid with a new toy, I till couldn't come up with much to further my Menke/Koetting family line. did find a little bit on a John G. Koetting who appears to have died quite oung. --------------------- 850 United States Federal Census > Ohio > Hamilton > Cincinnati Ward 11 02 Kotting John G 23 abt 1827 Male Germany 02 Kotting Mary 25 abt 1825 Female Germany 02 Kotting Caroline 2 abt 1848 Female Ohio --------------------------------- ttp://www.hcgsdata.org/brides/Kni-Kram.shtml 850-59 5-C-CC Kloppenburg, Heinric Koetting, Catharine I'm still looking for the definition of the source code on that one) --------------------------------------------------- ttp://www.probatect.org/pdftemp/radC67F2.pdf 23 Koetting, John G Mar 4, 1852 1 8 Mar 4, 1852 dminstration granted unto Catharine Koetting, illiam Deho and Joseph Wrocklage, sureties, Bond $350 ohn Henry Urlage, Henry Moorhern, and Arnold Urlage apprs. ond taken and letters issued. March 16, 1853 Inventory Filed May 19, 1853 dministration de bonesnon granted unto John Henry Kloppenburg. he widow Catharine Koetting having intermarried ohn Gerard Spieker, and Linus Wahoff, sureties, Bond $500 ond taken and letters issued. July 14 Account current and vouchers filed and suspended. une 4, 1855 Account current and vouchers allowed and confirmed. --------------------------- I will look into the SOMMER/KETTING marriage and see what I can find on that ne. Thanks for sending that along. Best Regards, Kathy ww.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a ime. ----- Original Message ----- rom: <annbergelt@aol.com> o: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:39 PM ubject: Re: [OHHAMILT] North German Lutheran Church - 1845 marriage The index reference is: "Restored Hamilton County Ohio Marriage Records, 1808-1849" BON, Joseph H. - Koetting, Maria 7 Dec. 1848 EE (code is for St. John the Baptist Cath. ch.) In that time frame, the only Koetting brides were the above and the Menke bride. But -- there is also a KETTING, A.M.Gesina who married Herman Hein. SOMMER 19 Nov 1848 at Holy Trinity. Could be a spelling/transcription variation. Ann o contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: ttp://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Gloria thanks for the suggestion! Will see what I can find out. JC ----- Original Message ---- From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 11:07:47 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio I would suggest contacting Dayton, OH library to see if they can find an obituary for this Helen Spettel. Since you have her death date, they should be able to search the newspapers. From what I've read online, you should be able to make the request via email or phone. (I know that for Cincinnati/Hamilton Co., the library can and will email you the obit.) If you can obtain this Helen's obit, you might be able to determine one way or the other if she was your Ralph's wife. And with any luck, if she was, perhaps or obit will mention when hubbie died, or perhaps list survivors. Just a suggestion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > Yes, Ralph's brother Herbert's middle initial is C and he did live in > Dayton. I > don't know about Ralph's wife as yet. JC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gloria <dbuckle02@fuse.net> > To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 9:28:49 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > Is it possible that Herbert Spettel's middle initial was "C"? And, did > Ralph Robert Spettel marry a "Helen?" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> > To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio > > >> Will have to go to the library next week and check your Ancestry.com >> reference >> the directory listing, thanks much! >> JC >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "DanSFooseJr@aol.com" <DanSFooseJr@aol.com> >> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Fri, July 9, 2010 6:51:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio >> >> >> There is a Ralph R. Spettel in the 1938 Dayton William's Directory >> (ancestry.com). Also 1939 and 1940. Montgomery County, Ohio. >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 7/9/2010 6:44:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> dbuckle02@fuse.net writes: >> >> Could this be Ralph Spettel living with his married sister, Esther, in >> 1930? >> >> 1930 United States Federal Census >> about Robert R Spettel >> Name: Robert R Spettel >> Home in 1930: Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio >> View Map >> Age: 27 >> Estimated birth year: abt 1903 >> Birthplace: Ohio >> Relation to Head of House: Brother-in-law >> Race: White >> Occupation: >> >> Education: >> >> Military service: >> >> Rent/home value: >> >> Age at first marriage: >> >> Parents' birthplace: View image >> Neighbors: View others on page >> Household Members: Name Age >> Charles W Ernsting 38 >> Esther E Ernsting 34 >> Shirley E Ernsting 3 >> Robert R Spettel 27 >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "anchoredup" <anchoredup@yahoo.com> >> To: <OHHAMILT@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:39 PM >> Subject: [OHHAMILT] Ralph Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio >> >> >>> Ralph Spettel dob circa 1902 is the youngest of six children of Frank >>> G. >> & >>> Kate >>> Spettel of Cincinnati, Ohio. Ralph is the only child of this marriage I >>> have >>> been unable to locate after the 1920 census. >>> >>> >>> If you are researching or have information regarding Ralph I'd be >>> interested in >>> hearing from you. >>> >>> JC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >>> >>> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >>> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >>> >>> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >>> >>http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx >> >>x >> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com >> >> Did you miss a message? 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Could you publish the other pages of the list? If not I am interested in the "T" page.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:58 PM To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Subject: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Society ofCincinnati > This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the > creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is interested: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg > > The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film > #1763571 > >> > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It is Green Mound Cemetery, in New Richmond, Clermont County, Ohio.  Large beautiful cemetery.  New Richmond is not that big, it is a river town on the Ohio River.  Lots of history including history in underground railroad. --- On Sun, 7/11/10, Adina Roberts <adinad@earthlink.net> wrote: From: Adina Roberts <adinad@earthlink.net> Subject: [OHHAMILT] New Richmond OH To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 12:33 AM Just found a great-uncle's death certificate.  He was buried in Green Mound New Richmond OH.  Does anyone know where it is or what it might be called today?  The great uncle was Robert St. Clair ROE Thank you To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message?  You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Adina, There's a New Richmond in Clermont County, Ohio.  There's also a Richmond Dale in Ross County, Ohio  The one in Clermont County, which abuts Hamilton County, is right smack on the Ohio/Kentucky border. Richmond Dale is nearer to Chillocothe, Ohio. So I'd stick with the one in Clermont if you're looking for Cincinnati relatives! LOL Linda  in Utah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adina Roberts" <adinad@earthlink.net> To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:33:34 PM Subject: [OHHAMILT] New Richmond OH Just found a great-uncle's death certificate.  He was buried in Green Mound New Richmond OH.  Does anyone know where it is or what it might be called today?  The great uncle was Robert St. Clair ROE Thank you To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message?  You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In some presumably later years, the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati produced a book with pictures and information on each of their members who had died. The Cincinnati Public Library downtown in the rare book room has some of these books. This is where I found both of my great grandfathers. Peg Fay-Feder -----Original Message----- From: ohhamilt-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohhamilt-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Hines Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:59 AM To: ohhamilt@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati Namens-Liste der Mitglieder des Deutschen Pionier=Vereins von Cincinnati Die mit + bezeichneten Namen sind seit der Gründung des Vereins gestorben. Name-List of the members of the German Pioneer-Club/Society of Cincinnati The names signed by + (belong to members) who have passed away since foundation of the club This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is interested: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film #1763571 Best Regards, Kathy in MN

I meant to say page 1 out of 8 pages. Thanks, Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> To: <ohhamilt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: [OHHAMILT] List of the members of the German Pioneer Society ofCincinnati Namens-Liste der Mitglieder des Deutschen Pionier=Vereins von Cincinnati Die mit + bezeichneten Namen sind seit der Gründung des Vereins gestorben. Name-List of the members of the German Pioneer-Club/Society of Cincinnati The names signed by + (belong to members) who have passed away since foundation of the club This is just the first page (of ) the list. I can find no date for the creation of this list. I have more images of it if anyone is interested: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnwaseca/images/Cincinnati_Pioneers.jpg The list for the German Pioneer Society of Cincinnati is from LDS film #1763571 Best Regards, Kathy in MN www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: Kaesemein@aol.com Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHHAMILT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message