Wayne, HILSHORST HAROLD E County Name: HAMILTON Date of Death: 7/14/1914 Volume Number: 1413 Certificate Number: 39493 This info is from the Ohio Historical Society website http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/index.cfm If you send $6.00 and the above information to: The Ohio Historical Society: 1982 Velma Avenue, Columbus, OH 43211 They will send you a copy of his death certificate. Marian http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylinks/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Hilshorst" <whilshor@bigpond.net.au> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 4:30 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Message in a bottle ( From Down Under)- re Harold E Hilshorst > Hi all, I need help on a Harold E Hilshorst died 14 Jul 1914 Hamilton that > is all the info I have. Any info will be greatly appreciated. > Regards Wayne (from Aussie land)-----

Wayne, You probably already know this, but just in case you don't...go to the web page listed after this paragraph, enter Hilshorst as surname, select "13-17" on the year index and type in Hamilton for the county. On the left, you can click on the details of obtaining a death certificate which should give you info like parents names and other information of interest. http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/ Here's the info you should see: HILSHORST HAROLD E County Name: HAMILTON Date of Death: 7/14/1914 Volume Number: 1413 Certificate Number: 39493 1. I checked the 1910 census for Hamilton Co and found three young men but no Harold. However, I did find two whose given name begins with the letter E: Edward a boarder age 20, was born in OH. Ernest, 25, born in KY, lives with his wife Fannie and three children, William, Edna and David. 2. Other Hilshort's in Hamilton Co. OH: Mary Hilshorst, 45, and her daughter Edna, 21, are listed as mother-in-law and sister-in-law of David L. Smith. David, 27, is married to Eva M. Smith, 23, and they have a daughter Dorothy who is just under 2 years old. Mary and Edna were both born in OH (according to this census). Birthplace for Eva is listed as KY. Emma Hilshorst, a 47-year-old widow who lives alone. Emma's birthplace is listed as Indiana. 3. The only other Hilshorst in the 1910 U. S. census: Henry Hilshorst, 49, living across the river Ohio River from Cincinnati in Kenton County KY with wife Mary, 39, and sister Elizabeth, 42. Henry and his sister were listed as KY births. His wife Mary was listed as an OH birth. Good Luck, John Otto Va. Beach VA Wayne Hilshorst wrote: > Hi all, I need help on a Harold E Hilshorst died 14 Jul 1914 Hamilton > that is all the info I have. Any info will be greatly appreciated. > Regards Wayne (from Aussie land)----- > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestor that pertains to Hamilton > County. ...Positively *NO* selling or OFF TOPIC announcements or > messages. If you're unsure, email the List Mom first at: > OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Thank you all for the GREAT information!!! I will contact Ohio Historical Society to get a copy of Rose Lewarks death record. You all have been very helpful!!! Chris

The downtown Cincinnati Library now has Ohio death certificates on microfilm. ----- Original Message ----- From: bob To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Lewark According to the Ohio Historical Society online death index, Rose Lewark died in Hamilton Co 1933.....cert# 944. The date is given as /4/1933.....not sure if they mean the month is unknown or the exact day in April is unknown. Below is their website and you can contact them to obtain a copy of the death certificate. There is a $6 fee. http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/ Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Pulver" <cpulver@adamswells.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Lewark > > > I am new to the list and am researching a Rose Lewark (Luark). She was > born in Wabash Indiana the daughter of Andrew T. Lewark (Luark) and Eliza > (Vandyne). I find Rose in the 1910 and 1920 census living in Hamilton > County Ohio, I do not have a record of her after 1920. I am hoping that > someone will be able to tell me if there is a death record for her in > Hamilton County. In the 1920 Census she was 58 years old and widowed. If > a marriage record exists I would be interested in that as well. As far as > I know she did not have any children. > > Thank you for any info! > > Chris > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== Tired of this List? Going on vacation, a business trip? Or, do you just want off? Unsubscribing (and subscribing) are a snap from here! http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005

According to the Ohio Historical Society online death index, Rose Lewark died in Hamilton Co 1933.....cert# 944. The date is given as /4/1933.....not sure if they mean the month is unknown or the exact day in April is unknown. Below is their website and you can contact them to obtain a copy of the death certificate. There is a $6 fee. http://www.ohiohistory.org/dindex/ Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Pulver" <cpulver@adamswells.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:05 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Lewark > > > I am new to the list and am researching a Rose Lewark (Luark). She was > born in Wabash Indiana the daughter of Andrew T. Lewark (Luark) and Eliza > (Vandyne). I find Rose in the 1910 and 1920 census living in Hamilton > County Ohio, I do not have a record of her after 1920. I am hoping that > someone will be able to tell me if there is a death record for her in > Hamilton County. In the 1920 Census she was 58 years old and widowed. If > a marriage record exists I would be interested in that as well. As far as > I know she did not have any children. > > Thank you for any info! > > Chris > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Chris, This is probably your Rose Lewark's death record from the Ohio Historical Society death index: LEWARK ROSE County Name: HAMILTON Date of Death: /4/1933 Volume Number: 7137 Certificate Number: 944 See their web site for instructions on ordering copies. http://www.ohiohistory.org/resource/archlib/death1.html#deathbetween1908to1944 Cheryl Hartley Chris Pulver wrote: >I am new to the list and am researching a Rose Lewark (Luark). She was born in Wabash Indiana the daughter of Andrew T. Lewark (Luark) and Eliza (Vandyne). I find Rose in the 1910 and 1920 census living in Hamilton County Ohio, I do not have a record of her after 1920. I am hoping that someone will be able to tell me if there is a death record for her in Hamilton County. In the 1920 Census she was 58 years old and widowed. If a marriage record exists I would be interested in that as well. As far as I know she did not have any children. > >Thank you for any info! > >Chris > > >==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this >list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times >of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > >

I am new to the list and am researching a Rose Lewark (Luark). She was born in Wabash Indiana the daughter of Andrew T. Lewark (Luark) and Eliza (Vandyne). I find Rose in the 1910 and 1920 census living in Hamilton County Ohio, I do not have a record of her after 1920. I am hoping that someone will be able to tell me if there is a death record for her in Hamilton County. In the 1920 Census she was 58 years old and widowed. If a marriage record exists I would be interested in that as well. As far as I know she did not have any children. Thank you for any info! Chris

Lori, do you have a middle initial for him? There are quite a few Wm Martins and W. Martins listed in the 1876 Cincinnati City Directory. Here's Nellie from the 1876 Cincinnati City Directory: Nellie Ryan, dress maker, bds. 48 Lodge. Phyllis -----Original Message----- Looking for William MARTIN. I'm trying to establish how long he had been in the Cincinnati area prior to 1880. I should mention his age in 1880 was 24. Also tracking the woman that became his wife in 1880, Ellen "Nellie" RYAN.

Chris, here are some bits and pieces related to LEWARK/LUARK. I found Rose in the 1928/29 Cincinnati City Directory, but by 1941 she is no longer listed. From the 1896 Cincinnati City Directory: No LEWARKs or LUARKs listed. From the 1916/1917 Cincinnati City Directory: Russell Lewark, bartender, h. 634 W. 4th. No LUARKs listed. From the 1928/1929 Cincinnati City Directory: Rose Lewark, seamstress, h. rear 218 E. 18th. No LUARKs listed. From the 1941 Cincinnati City Directory: No Lewarks listed. No Luarks listed. From the Spring Grove website (www.springgrove.org): Mahlon Vandyne Co. I, 12th Ohio Cavalry, Died July 31, 1864. Internment July 4th, 1869. Lot owner: Soldiers. Ordered by Brig. Gen. I.D. Bingham. Removed from Camp Dennison. Section 21, Lot C146. Phyllis

I am working on the Soelheim line and have Conrad Soelheim--b. abt 1836, from Bavaria, naturalized in Dubois Co., IN, md twice-- 1. Elisabeth Steger (1839- bef 1870)-- one daughter to survive-- Katherine, b. 1858 2. Minnie (md bef 1870 census) In 1860 Conrad and Elizabeth were in Benton Co., MO, he is listed as a physician. In 1870 & 1880 Conrad and Minnie are in Hamilton Co., OH. By 1880 Katherine is not with them. I would like anything at all on this line. I don't know when the family went to OH or when Elizabeth died, or when he married Minnie. Can someone do marriage look-ups on these folks? The Hamilton Co marriages are not online at ancestry. I would also like to know who Katherine married, if she did marry. The Steger line ties into my Mehringer lines. Thanks so much. Helen Zuber Keusch forever searching the EAKINS, FORD/FOARD, MELTON, WALCUP, SANDEFUR, EZELL, HANDLEY, THOMASSON, ZUBER, GUTEKUNST/GOODART, ANTHIS, BANGERT, LAND, CRABTREE, BENNETT, EDWARDS, REEVES, WOOFORD families--my lines; and on hubby's side the families of MEHRINGER, SCHITTER/SCHUETTER, HOCHGESANG, SCHMITT, HURST, BECHER, KEUSCH, ACKERMAN, BURGER, and HOPF.

For those of you interested in the continuing developments at Wesleyan Cemetery, this article was in the Cincinnati Enquirer on Sat. 3/5/05 http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050305/NEWS01/503050384/ 1056/news01 Marilyn

Hi Folks, I'm wondering if anyone has access to Cincinnati directories for 1880 and working backwards from there. Looking for William MARTIN. In 1880, he was living on Longworth St. in a boarding house of some sort. He was employed as a waiter at Hunt's Hotel. I'm trying to establish how long he had been in the Cincinnati area prior to 1880. I should mention his age in 1880 was 24. Also tracking the woman that became his wife in 1880, Ellen "Nellie" RYAN. In 1880 she was living in the Charles Taft household and listed as a servant, age 20. I don't know how and even if she would be listed, but figured it's worth a shot. Again, working backwards from 1880. Thanks so much in advance, Lori

hi pat, i couldn't find anything for joseph oehler that would have been old enough in any of the census. there were two listings for the 1890-91 cincinnati ohio directory 1 jos oehler delaney st 25 ward carpenter, 2 jos oehler 21 oehler steam fitter. there was 3 different families of oehler living at 225 oehler st one had a son joseph he was 12 in 1880. if you have other information i will try again for you to find your joseph oehler mary ShpGranny@aol.com

You might try EILER or EYLER. There were/are many with these surnames in Maryland, Frederick County. Scanned for viruses by SYMANTEC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Gough" <pgough@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] OEHLER >i am trying to track down JOSEPH OEHLER. here's what i know about him--he > married MARGARET PISTNER on feb. 11, 1839 in holy trinity church in > cincinnati. i am having NO LUCK finding him in the census records at > heritagequest database. > > is there anyone out there who can help me? > > thanks, > pat > > > ******************************************* > > Patricia A. Gough > > Secretary > > Penfield Public Library > > 1985 Baird Road > > Penfield, NY 14526 > > > > 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 > > > > "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." > > -- Erma Bombeck > > > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

hi patricia, i will try and find something on joseph oehler at ancestry.com for you. i let you know what i find out ShpGranny@aol.com mary

Yep, marilyn, I did all that. I do find OEHLERS and OHLERS and OILERS and AHLERS, etc. I'm gonna call this a brick wall. Thanks for your help. Pat ******************************************* Patricia A. Gough Secretary Penfield Public Library 1985 Baird Road Penfield, NY 14526 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." -- Erma Bombeck -----Original Message----- From: Kaesemein@aol.com [mailto:Kaesemein@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:06 PM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] OEHLER Hi Pat, It may be a problem with the spelling / pronunciation of the word. If the census taker didn't know how to spell it, he may have just written down what it sounded like phonetically. Is it pronounced " A-ler " " O-ler " "OY-ler ? "U-ler" or "OO-ler" ?? My soundex index shows spellings of OYLER and OLLER when I enter OEHLER. Did Joseph and Margaret stay in Hamilton Co.? Were they born in the US or were they German immigrants? My 1850 index shows 4 results for the OEHLER spelling: Francis Oehler Cincinnati Ward 4, Hamilton, OH abt 1823 Germany Nicky Oehler Cincinnati Ward 4, Hamilton, OH abt 1825 Germany Peter Oehler Cincinnati Ward 10, Hamilton, OH abt 1829 Germany John Oehler Cincinnati Ward 10, Hamilton, OH abt 1808 Switzerland Have you found them in any census years at all? Marilyn ----------------------original message------------------------- In a message dated 03/03/05 11:46:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, pgough@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us writes: << i am trying to track down JOSEPH OEHLER. here's what i know about him--he married MARGARET PISTNER on feb. 11, 1839 in holy trinity church in cincinnati. i am having NO LUCK finding him in the census records at heritagequest database. is there anyone out there who can help me? thanks, pat >> ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Pat, I found a reference to Joseph Oehler at Ancestry.com in the Family/Local History section. It is from this book which had several volumes. Cincinnati, the Queen City : 1788-1912. Goss, Charles Frederic,. Chicago. S.J. Clarke Pub. Co.. 1912. It is located in Vol. 3 pg. 184. In summary, it has the biography of Joseph L. Roth who was mother was Mr. Margaret Roth. Margaret Roth was the daughter of Joseph Oelher, granddaughter of Simon Oehler. Also, there reference to Simon Oehler in the same book different volume. Simon is referenced in Vol. 1 pg. 526. Briefly, it says that Simon and 3 other families arrived on Sept. 24 from Germany. The year was 1817. I hope this helps. Margaret AmRhein > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:45:49 -0500 > From: "Pat Gough" <pgough@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us> > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: OEHLER > > i am trying to track down JOSEPH OEHLER. here's > what i know about him--he > married MARGARET PISTNER on feb. 11, 1839 in holy > trinity church in > cincinnati. i am having NO LUCK finding him in the > census records at > heritagequest database. > > is there anyone out there who can help me? > > thanks, > pat > > > ******************************************* > > Patricia A. Gough > > Secretary > > Penfield Public Library > > 1985 Baird Road > > Penfield, NY 14526 > > > > 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 > > > > "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." > > -- Erma Bombeck > > > > > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 > Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:28:43 EST > From: CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Bell County, KY > > Hello, > > I know that some people from Bell County, KY. > settled up here so I wanted to > tell you about a new group that I formed on > yahoogroups for Bell County, KY. > genealogy. It is called _bellcountykyfamilies_ > (mailto:bellcountykyfamilies@yahoogroups.com) . If > anyone would like to join, let me know and I will > send > you an invitation. > > Thank you, > Charlotte Miller > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

Hi Pat, It may be a problem with the spelling / pronunciation of the word. If the census taker didn't know how to spell it, he may have just written down what it sounded like phonetically. Is it pronounced " A-ler " " O-ler " "OY-ler ? "U-ler" or "OO-ler" ?? My soundex index shows spellings of OYLER and OLLER when I enter OEHLER. Did Joseph and Margaret stay in Hamilton Co.? Were they born in the US or were they German immigrants? My 1850 index shows 4 results for the OEHLER spelling: Francis Oehler Cincinnati Ward 4, Hamilton, OH abt 1823 Germany Nicky Oehler Cincinnati Ward 4, Hamilton, OH abt 1825 Germany Peter Oehler Cincinnati Ward 10, Hamilton, OH abt 1829 Germany John Oehler Cincinnati Ward 10, Hamilton, OH abt 1808 Switzerland Have you found them in any census years at all? Marilyn ----------------------original message------------------------- In a message dated 03/03/05 11:46:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, pgough@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us writes: << i am trying to track down JOSEPH OEHLER. here's what i know about him--he married MARGARET PISTNER on feb. 11, 1839 in holy trinity church in cincinnati. i am having NO LUCK finding him in the census records at heritagequest database. is there anyone out there who can help me? thanks, pat >>

Hello, I know that some people from Bell County, KY. settled up here so I wanted to tell you about a new group that I formed on yahoogroups for Bell County, KY. genealogy. It is called _bellcountykyfamilies_ (mailto:bellcountykyfamilies@yahoogroups.com) . If anyone would like to join, let me know and I will send you an invitation. Thank you, Charlotte Miller

i am trying to track down JOSEPH OEHLER. here's what i know about him--he married MARGARET PISTNER on feb. 11, 1839 in holy trinity church in cincinnati. i am having NO LUCK finding him in the census records at heritagequest database. is there anyone out there who can help me? thanks, pat ******************************************* Patricia A. Gough Secretary Penfield Public Library 1985 Baird Road Penfield, NY 14526 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." -- Erma Bombeck