Hi folks, If anyone has access to marriage records for the 1878 timeframe, could you please check on a wedding for: Julia RYAN and Timothy HAYES Hoping Julia is of some relation to my elusive ggrandmother Nellie RYAN. Thanks so much, Lori Lori Nichols Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, STEFANAC, BASIC

Very awesome! Thanks for sharing it with us, Lori! Lori -- llchaffin@webtv.net (Lori) wrote: I just got this from another list that I am on.I thought it might come in handy for someone. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycchgs/phone.htm?o_xid=0022468880&o_lid=0022468880&o_xt=22468880 Lori Deible Chaffin If you love your freedom,Thank a Vet!!! ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Pat, I checked the index for restored marriage records at the courthouse today and was unable to find a listing for the Pistner/Brand marriage. That church record you have, may be all that's available. Marian http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~genealogylinks/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Patsy31748@aol.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] pistner/brand marriage record> > > i have the church record from old st. mary's for this marriage. i would > like to find the civil record. can anyone help me? > > ADAM PISTNER m. CHARLOTTE (CAROLINA) BRAND, May 6, 1845 > Old St. Mary's Church, Cincinnati, Ohio > > thank you, > pat gough

Hi again, This just came through. No Conovers, but Wendt, my Grandfather JC Dale, and Law - mule merchant ( something like that) are there. There's a John H. Law, but not related. Kind of interesting. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori" <llchaffin@webtv.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] 1889 Cincinati Phone Book >I just got this from another list that I am on.I thought it might come > in handy for someone. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycchgs/phone.htm?o_xid=0022468880&o_lid=0022468880&o_xt=22468880 > > Lori Deible Chaffin > > > If you love your freedom,Thank a Vet!!! > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

I just got this from another list that I am on.I thought it might come in handy for someone. http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycchgs/phone.htm?o_xid=0022468880&o_lid=0022468880&o_xt=22468880 Lori Deible Chaffin If you love your freedom,Thank a Vet!!!

Phyliss, I'm hoping you can check your directories again for me. I finally made it downtown yesterday to look at the directories from 1884-1991 for Anna Wilkens. From there I headed to the courthouse to check for some marriage records. Wish I would have had time to head back to the library but alas, the school bell rings for parental pick-up. Could you check for a James and or Frances Sanderson in your directories. I believe you will find them on Liberty St. as well, 43 E. Liberty which may then have changed (or they moved) to 305 E. Liberty. James Sanderson & Frances Wilkens married in 1889. I think that Anna Wilkens was living with them, but none of the 3 are in the 1900 census. In 1899/1900 Anna Wilkens was at 234 E. Clifton which is the address her son-in-law Paul Beyer is found in 1900. It appears that Anna died shortly before the census, I suspect that both James Sanderson & wife Frances were also dead by then. Trying to narrow the time frame & place to write the archdiocese of Cinti. for information. Thanks, Linda Boorom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Garratt" <pgarratt@gessert.us> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:20 AM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Reply: WILKENS & BEYER 1880's & 90's > Hi Linda, > > As promised, I just got home from my trip and can do the city directory > look-up for you. I checked 1889 and 1896 and here is what I found: > > 1889: > > Paul BEYER, fireman, St Nicholas Hotel [My note: since it lists his > place of business and not his home address, he probably only worked in > Cincinnati and must have lived elsewhere....Covington perhaps?] > > There is also a Jackson Beyer and a Eugenie Beyer listed as working in > Cincinnati but living elsewhere. > > Anna M. Wilkens (widow of Conrad), domestic 205 W. 5th. > > Also at 205 W. 5th is a Mary E. Wilkens, chambermaid. > > 1896: > > Paul Beyer, Porter, h. 1325 Clay. > > Anna Wilkens, widow, h. 305 E. Liberty. > > Phyllis > > -----Original Message----- > any Cinti.Directory's from the mid 1880's to 1900 & could check for > Conrad and/or Anna WILKENS and Paul BEYER for me. > > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

The subject heading in the Sanderson /Wilkins reply should have been spelled Wilkens not Wilkins. Sorry about that. Phyllis

Hi Linda, 1889 (wives not listed): No James or Frances SANDERSON listed, though there are 10 Sanderson's listed. 1896 (wives not listed): James SANDERSON, lithographer, h. 1311 Baymiller. James SANDERSON, stone cutter, h. 305 E. Liberty. Anna WILKENS, widow, h. 305 E. Liberty. (be aware....you may already know this,... there is an Anna Wilken (no 's') also listed (at a different address). No other Wilkens are listed as living at 305 E. Liberty. None of them are listed in the 1915/16 directory as you probably would expect. Phyllis

Does anyone know anything  about the marriage of Franklin H. ZERBE b. 1837 Berks Co to an Anna SNYDER?   I don't know if they were married in Berks or Schuylkill Cos. PA or after the ZERBES moved to Summit or Portage Co Ohio or even the Upper Sandusky area where Franklin worked for a time before the Civil War. They seemed to be in Hamilton Co area for a time as well. They had children: Lucetta b. 1862 in Ohio              and Binah birthdate unknown. After the Civil War, Franklin moved back to Schuylkill Co PA and married widow, Sophia Sell Hummel.  I don't know if Anna died or they divorced. Doris Lawrence Matz

I'd like to add my recommendation about Norman Peters and the service he provides - I contacted him a few months ago about getting a copy of a Dawes Roll application on someone that I thought was my gg-grandfather. He found the file, and it had noted on it a few more application numbers that were connected with the one I was requesting. He notified me and let me make the decision if I wanted him to check them and report back to me, or what I wanted him to do. I asked him to get copies of them, too. Several days later I received the package from him - it contained the applications, which were a treasure of new information. The application I had requested wasn't my gg-grandfathers, but a g-uncle's (son of the gg-grandfather by the same name). The other applications were all marked with the connection to a "central" applicaton. After going through them carefully, I was able to piece together 4 generations and at least a dozen collateral lines more than I had previously. Noted on the applications was that a "family investigation" had been done during the application process. (Also included on these applications were the numbers of over 150 more applications.) I ordered copies of all of these others, too, and received them all just before Christmas. What I ended up with was a formal investigation (including all of the notes) that was done by the Dawes Commission, personal interviews with all of these folks and signed affidavits of them and many others from the communities. (The majority of these folks no one in the family had never heard of.) Having said that, I corresponded with him a few weeks ago, inquiring about another research project. He'll be unavailable for lookups for a few weeks as he is out of town. I'd still recommend him, but just wanted to let you know so you wouldn't be discouraged when you didn't get a quick reply from him. Sherri -----Original Message----- From: AnnBergelt@aol.com [mailto:AnnBergelt@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 7:10 AM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Help Finding Information About Civil War Ancestor Jim; Your best source of documentation on a Civil War ancestor is to apply to the National Archives for two things; (1) his service/military record and (2) any pension applied for under his name. But, in order to be assured you will get that information, you should first have a description of what unit (Regiment number) and company in which he served. The process is long and sometimes frustrating if you work through the archives (see the webpage at _www.nara.gov_ (http://www.nara.gov) ) but I would certainly recommend you contact Norman Peters, who has been recommended on this list before, and see if he can help you. The military information is very good to have for your family files, but the pension information can be invaluable as far as family and genealogical input is concerned. Contact Norman Peters at _NathJ@aol.com_ (mailto:NathJ@aol.com) . Good luck. Ann Bergelt Florida ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I know exactly where that is. I took my youngest brother to that park when he was little. At one time, I lived not too far from there. On Mar 18, 2005, at 3:42 PM, davidheller wrote: > Some forty-five species of trees, both native and ornamental, grow on > Rapid Run's almost fifty acres. The Guerley Road side of the park has > a small wooded area, but no trails. Even though these woods are small, > spring wildflowers (trout lilies, toothwort, spring beauty, squirrel's > corn) bloom there every April, as they have since before the days when > the Indians and pioneers travelled up "Lick Run Valley." > Rapid Run Park and Parkway, at Glenway Avenue and Rapid Run Road, are > composed of nine parcels purchased between 1928 and 1930 and one > parcel of old Potter's Field property obtained by ordinance in 1934. > The area now contains 49.188 acres (approximately 4 acres were > transferred to the Recreation Commission in 1963). Called "Lick Run > Park" in its early years, it was renamed by the Park Board in 1940. > The park's first improvement came in 1941 through the Federal Works > Project Administration. > > Visiting Rapid Run Park : > > 4450 Rapid Run Parkway > Cincinnati , OH 45238 > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! > ~*~*~*~ > -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Thanks. On Mar 18, 2005, at 3:40 PM, davidheller wrote: > I memory serves me correct, Lick Run was an area down in Fairmont, say > around old St. Bonnies Church- Queen City-Harrison Ave. > St. Peter's Lick Run Historic District > > 2145-2153 Queen City Avenue (South Fairmount) > > * > National Register of Historic Places - Listed October 4, 1989 (No. > 89001453) > > Significance: St. Peter's Lick Run Historic District is the oldest > remnant of a German Catholic settlement west of the Mill Creek in > Cincinnati. This district contains the second oldest German Catholic > church (c. 1840) and school (c. 1850) in the 19-county Archdiocese of > Cincinnati. The district was named from a combination of St. Peter's > cemetery in the area and Lick Run Pike, the local thoroughfare. This > district is evidence of an early German settlement on the west side of > Cincinnati. > > Dave in Cincy > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a > problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact > the List Mom off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Some forty-five species of trees, both native and ornamental, grow on Rapid Run's almost fifty acres. The Guerley Road side of the park has a small wooded area, but no trails. Even though these woods are small, spring wildflowers (trout lilies, toothwort, spring beauty, squirrel's corn) bloom there every April, as they have since before the days when the Indians and pioneers travelled up "Lick Run Valley." Rapid Run Park and Parkway, at Glenway Avenue and Rapid Run Road, are composed of nine parcels purchased between 1928 and 1930 and one parcel of old Potter's Field property obtained by ordinance in 1934. The area now contains 49.188 acres (approximately 4 acres were transferred to the Recreation Commission in 1963). Called "Lick Run Park" in its early years, it was renamed by the Park Board in 1940. The park's first improvement came in 1941 through the Federal Works Project Administration. Visiting Rapid Run Park : 4450 Rapid Run Parkway Cincinnati , OH 45238

I memory serves me correct, Lick Run was an area down in Fairmont, say around old St. Bonnies Church- Queen City-Harrison Ave. St. Peter's Lick Run Historic District 2145-2153 Queen City Avenue (South Fairmount) * National Register of Historic Places - Listed October 4, 1989 (No. 89001453) Significance: St. Peter's Lick Run Historic District is the oldest remnant of a German Catholic settlement west of the Mill Creek in Cincinnati. This district contains the second oldest German Catholic church (c. 1840) and school (c. 1850) in the 19-county Archdiocese of Cincinnati. The district was named from a combination of St. Peter's cemetery in the area and Lick Run Pike, the local thoroughfare. This district is evidence of an early German settlement on the west side of Cincinnati. Dave in Cincy

Phyllis, Thanks. The Eva would probably have been Constantin's widow. Just got her dc today at the library. Wonder where Lick Run was/is. This gives me something to go forward on. Thanks.. Carol On Mar 18, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Phyllis Garratt wrote: > Carol, > > Here is what I found in the 1876 Cincinnati City Directory: > > Stephan Bender, butcher, bds Colerain Pike, Camp Washington. > > Mrs. Katherine Bender, h. 352 McMicken Avenue. > > Constantine Bender, snr gardner, resides Lick Run, 24 Ward. > > Constantine Bender, jnr. Gardener, resides Lick Run, 24 Ward. > > Eva Bender, widow, h. 132 Linn. > > Also at the above addresses are: > > George Bender, baker, bds 352 McMicken Av. > > > Phyllis > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestor that pertains to Hamilton > County. ...Positively *NO* selling or OFF TOPIC announcements or > messages. If you're unsure, email the List Mom first at: > OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Who asked about George Bender? I have a George Bender in my family, married into the Rattermans. Would be happy to share and correspond. Denise Ratterman Jackson

Carol, According to the Bicentennial Guide to Cincinnati, Lick Run was the area that incorporated a number of Cincinnati vicinity neighborhoods such as Fairmount, Mt. Harrison, Barrsville and Spring Garden. The area that these communities were located in was called Lick Run, after the Lick Run River that ran through this area. In 1870 the area was annexed by Cincinnati. There was a street called Lick Run Pike that also ran through the Fairmount area. Lick Run Pike is now called Queen City Avenue. My great grandfather Jacob Gessert, who was a member of the Board of Public Works, owned a home in Fairmount in the 1870's. Phyllis -----Original Message----- From: Carol Sanman [mailto:carolsanman@cinci.rr.com] Wonder where Lick Run was/is.

Carol, Here is what I found in the 1876 Cincinnati City Directory: Stephan Bender, butcher, bds Colerain Pike, Camp Washington. Mrs. Katherine Bender, h. 352 McMicken Avenue. Constantine Bender, snr gardner, resides Lick Run, 24 Ward. Constantine Bender, jnr. Gardener, resides Lick Run, 24 Ward. Eva Bender, widow, h. 132 Linn. Also at the above addresses are: George Bender, baker, bds 352 McMicken Av. Phyllis

Jim; Your best source of documentation on a Civil War ancestor is to apply to the National Archives for two things; (1) his service/military record and (2) any pension applied for under his name. But, in order to be assured you will get that information, you should first have a description of what unit (Regiment number) and company in which he served. The process is long and sometimes frustrating if you work through the archives (see the webpage at _www.nara.gov_ (http://www.nara.gov) ) but I would certainly recommend you contact Norman Peters, who has been recommended on this list before, and see if he can help you. The military information is very good to have for your family files, but the pension information can be invaluable as far as family and genealogical input is concerned. Contact Norman Peters at _NathJ@aol.com_ (mailto:NathJ@aol.com) . Good luck. Ann Bergelt Florida

Jim, I looked up a different spelling version being Renner in the Civil War Soldiers & Sailors System. There are 9 Jacob Renners that served in various Ohio units. Perhaps there could be a lead there. Good Luck! Tracey Dooley -----Original Message----- From: JASBIRCH@aol.com [mailto:JASBIRCH@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:06 PM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Help Finding Information About Civil War Ancestor Greetings: Last week, I discovered I have a Civil War ancestor. Now, I would like to find more information about this but I am not sure where I should begin to search. I hope someone on this list can point me in the right direction. Here is what I currently know about the ancestor in question: Name: Jacob Rinner. Born: in Germany in 1834. Died: in Cincinnati in November 1869. Wife: died in March 1869. Children: three, born in 1860, 1862, and 1866. Lived with relatives following death of parents. Tombstone: none. I was not able to find the name Jacob Rinner doing a search on the "Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System" web site. I suspect his name was misspelled. The "Military Graves Location" ledger at the Hamilton County Court House only indicates he served in the Army. Could the children have filed any kind of cliam for survivor benefits? If so, where can I learn more about this? Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Jim Birch ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx