Thank you, I will check this out . Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: <TTCarverFL@aol.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] RILEY/ ZORNES in Cinti. Ohio/KY > > In a message dated 5/9/2005 9:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, > jlr@cinci.rr.com writes: > > ISAAC parents were: MARTIN ZORNES b:1843-1846 in > Greenup Co. & SARAH J.T. HEWITT b:1844 IRELAND > Children: James b:1863, William b:1865, Francis b:1867, > Isaac b:1869, John b:1871, and Charles b:1873 all in > Greenup Co, Ky > > > > Hi Joy; > _http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycarter/charts/zornes.htm_ > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycarter/charts/zornes.htm) > > Have you seen this site? > Scroll down to the near the bottom look for Martin P. Zornes 1880 Census > Wifes name Sarah J. T. age 36 born Ireland. > > Tom > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a problem, > question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact > the List Mom off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Check out the following letters posted from John Marsh D'Camp to family in Essex/Union county, NJ: These are found on this website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/DeCAMP/Letters.html or access via: http://tinyurl.com/7zn6q Attempting to identify the people spoken of in the letters. John Marsh D'Camp/DeCamp appears to have moved into Preble Co., OH from Butler Co., OH and prior to that relocated from New Jersey. He has family in Hamilton Co., OH who are mentioned. If anyone recognizes anyone and has additional information, please let us know. Audrey -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 05/10/2005

I am hoping that SKS could help me get an obituary for Josiah Strong that is listed in the Cincinati Daily Times on page 3, Dec. 24, 1841. Thanks, Paula

Paula and all; The 1860-69 volume of "Restored Marriages, Hamilton Co. OH" has among the source references: Society of Friends (Quaker) Eighth and Mound, LDS film #0974060 Best wishes, Ann Bergelt Florida

In a message dated 5/9/2005 9:31:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlr@cinci.rr.com writes: ISAAC parents were: MARTIN ZORNES b:1843-1846 in Greenup Co. & SARAH J.T. HEWITT b:1844 IRELAND Children: James b:1863, William b:1865, Francis b:1867, Isaac b:1869, John b:1871, and Charles b:1873 all in Greenup Co, Ky Hi Joy; _http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycarter/charts/zornes.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~kycarter/charts/zornes.htm) Have you seen this site? Scroll down to the near the bottom look for Martin P. Zornes 1880 Census Wifes name Sarah J. T. age 36 born Ireland. Tom

I am a "cousin" of Louisa Goldstein listed in the 1900 and 1910 Hamiltion Co. Census. Am seeking marriage records for her and Charles Goldstein, which would have been from 1885 according to the 1900 Census. Also, her widowed sister Josephine Harper is listed in the same household. They are listed on the 1900 Census in Hamilton Co. Precinct B, Ward 19 B, Supervisor District 1, Enumeration District 152, sheet 6, lines 72-74. On the 1910 Census, Supervisor's district 2, Enumeration district 214 page 2, ward 18, lines 75, 76, 80. Please respond if you have information or suggestions for finding more information. Thanks in advance, Garry Malone

Tom, Still confused on most of my ZORNES line. Here is what I have, hope you can connect somehow. VIOLA ZORNES b:4/5/1894 Oh d:4/16/1954 oh. Parents: ISAAC L. ZORNES b:abt 1869*1874 Indiana? Isaac marr:SARAH (SALLY) GIFFORD b:abt 1873-1876 in Portsmouth,Ohio (Adams Co.) Their children: William Edward b:1892-1899 oh Ada b:1897 oh marr: JOHN KELLER FLOYD T. b: 8/17/1907 Oh d:1973 in LA,Calif. ROY b:1912 OH d: 4/22/1959 (MYRTLE) THERESA b:1914 OH NANCY b:1918 marr:JOHN MANGAN GEORGE b:1899-1900 marr:EDNA SCHAFFER/SHEVER JAMES LEE b:1908-1913 marr:ODESSA ? Ohio And VIOLA (my grdmother) ISAAC parents were: MARTIN ZORNES b:1843-1846 in Greenup Co. & SARAH J.T. HEWITT b:1844 IRELAND Children: James b:1863, William b:1865, Francis b:1867, Isaac b:1869, John b:1871, and Charles b:1873 all in Greenup Co, Ky Don't know who they married or their children. Can you make a connection. Hope you can make this out. Thank you, Joy

Hi list! Can anyone tell me if there were any Quaker Establishments anywhere in Hamilton County from about 1820- 1860's? My ancestors were apparently Quakers and lived in Miami Twp., and Collerain Twp. during the time frame listed above. Trying to figure out the best direction to go from here. Thanks, Paula

Hi Donna, The death was 52 years ago yesterday, and he served in the Navy during WWI. I also realized yesterday, and called my Dad to question him, because his mothers brother also served in WWI. My father confirmed that my uncle does not have a stone at all. So, it looks like I'll be working on trying to get a stone for my grandfather and my great uncle, who died in the 1970's) Do you know the cost range for the base that you spoke of? I'm concerned about the "perpetual fees" that the cemetery says are owed, because once the people died, the care fees were not kept up. (No one knew about them until my parents inquired about a stone, and then were told that thousands of dollars were owed on the plot) I'll see where I get with phone calls today as far as getting the form you spoke of. If I don't have much luck, I might just call one of the local funeral homes and see if they can spare a couple. Thanks for your help! Lori On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:13:18 -0400 "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> writes: > Anyone who was in the military is eligible for a Military Headstone. > I went > thru the 'process' for my aunt who served during WWII. If a > headstone is > for a recent burial, the funeral home can usually supply the form > and > information. You do have to know when they served, etc and enter > that on > the form. A headstone for an earlier time period may be more lax on > information needed. You would be responsible for a base for it which > is a > good idea to avoid it sinking. .... Donna > > > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military > Marker > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and > times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > Lori Nichols Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, STEFANAC, BASIC

Me too, Ann. When I responded, I checked the box to respond to sender (you) only, and it went to the list. I'll have to pay more attention to the SEND TO line next time. It worked out well, though, as other people were able to jump in and offer assistance as well. I couldn't find a number to call the VA services about the stone, but will start the phone calls when business hours start today, starting with the VA Hospital in Denver. Thanks so much! Lori On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:05:26 EDT AnnBergelt@aol.com writes: > Sorry, all, > > This "reply" going right to the mailing list tends to surprise me. > I was > obviously behind in my answer about the military marker and am very > pleased it > all worked out for Lori. > > Ann Bergelt > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To > get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States > link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder > icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > Lori Nichols Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, STEFANAC, BASIC

Hi Ann, How are you? I've been missing the lists so much, as I'm in the middle of moving and trying to get my house on the market. I sure will be glad when things calm down. I'm trying to catch up on some of the mailing list news, and ran across the conversation on the headstones. My grandfather served in the Navy, stationed in Illinois during WW1, but did NOT participate in combat. Do you know if he would be entitled to a headstone? Because if he is, I need to do something, as there are no markers on his grave at all. (Boy, what a gift to my Dad that would be, as he always wanted a stone for his parents, but never could afford it. Once he attempted, but they wanted thousands of dollars in back "perpetual fees" before they'd approve a stone!) Thanks much! Lori On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:26:05 EDT AnnBergelt@aol.com writes: > Actually, > > I think their service just has to be proven to entitle them to a > headstone > (note: this may not be completely without charge). > > Ann > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ > Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! > The > 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > Lori Nichols Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, STEFANAC, BASIC

Hello Bill, I never explained that my Bill Riley (fron Calif) had a falling out with his dad/Harvey Wm.yrs ago & don't know where he is. He would be in his late 60's, My line: THOMAS RILEY b: Abt 1635 VA.marr:Sarah Webb LAWRENCE RILEY b: abt 1663 VA. marr:TABITHA WHITE THOMAS RILEY b:abt 1695 VA. marr:RACHEL PEALE THOMAS RILEY b: abt 1735 VA. or Md. marr:ANNE Collier THOMAS RILEY b:abt 1768 Md? marr:Tabitha Franklin THOMAS RILEY b:abt 1790 Md. marr:Elixabeth WATTS THOMAS RILEY b:12/16/1816 Md d: 1/26/1892 Cinti. he marr: JANE WAYT CHARLES RILEY b: 1847 Oh marr:ELLA Cook ohio HARVEY R. RILEY b:1887 Oh marr: Viola Zornes. Is my Thomas b: 1635 the brother of MILES & HUGH? Hope this helps you make a connection. That would be GREAT... Looking forward to hearing from you, Joy Riley

Hello Bill, Don't think this will be much help as I've been trying to locate my cousins (especially the males)for some time. HARVEY Wm. RIley had a son Bill Riley by 1st wife and daug: KATHLEEN by 2nd wife both in Calif. Bill's wife has a son,Chuck by her 1st marr:& he did yrs ago.Bill never had children , so no RILEY's there. WALTER had WALTER jr & daug: MERLE LOUISE & un- able to locate them. June never had any sons, only 3 girls John has 1 son,JEFF RILEY that lives in BATAVIA,Ohio I believe. Never have seen him & he is my 1st cousin. So,that leaves my Dad, Robert J. who has 2 girls BUT left my Mom for another woman & a son was born. We talk every so often & he was just informed recently,that Robert (our Dad) was not really his father.....so, no boys again. Wow, this sounds like a soap opera. Jeffrey Riley is the only "true" Riley son that could help. Would love to make a connection to the THOMAS RILEY. Will send my line to you. Nice to hear from you again, Joy Riley Ramsey

>From: "jlr" <jlr@cinci.rr.com> >Reply-To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] OBIT for Walter P. Riley d. Cincinnati 29 APR >1994 >Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:30:29 -0400 > >OH MY GOSH...... >Are you by any chance UNCLE BIM'S son? >I am ROBERT J. RILEY daughter, Joy Lynn. >I have alot of info on my family. >Please email me jlr@cinci.rr.com > >Joy Lynn Riley Joy, This may be the second time you receive this message. My first try bounced.Will try again. Bill. That was a fast response. Unfortunately I am not a son of Bim. In fact I doubt that I am related at all to the family of Walter P. Riley. For the longest time several of us thought that my anscestor, Matson Riley, b. 1779 in Virginia was the brother of Joseph Riley born about the same time in Virginia. Unfortunately through the efforts of DNA tests it appears now that Matson and Joseph are at the most related through their wives, both being Dyes, who were first or second cousins once removed. Matson is the son of Robert Riley who supposedly with a brother John Riley came from the North of Ireland around the time of the Revolutionary War. We have found that descendants of Joseph Riley match exactly with descendants of Miles, Hugh and Thomas Riley who were born in Cavan Co., Ireland and settled for a while in Maryland and Virginia. David Sidney Riley has documented lots of information on descendants of Miles Riley. A few days ago I started checking on descendants of a Thomas Riley who reportedly was born 1635 in Virginia thinking that this Thomas might be the same Thomas who was the brother of Miles and Hugh. I have been able to trace the descendants of Thomas b. 1635/38 down to the 1930 census. Am not trying to find a living male Riley descendant who would be willing to be tested to see if he matches with David Sidney Riley. I will gladly provide you any information you wish on my ancestry. And would greatly appreciate help on locating a relative of Walter P. Riley. Could you please give me a bit of information about your father Robert J. Riley? If you can not tie him to Walter or his parents, if you could give me your father's parents or grand parents I might be able to make the connection. Really looking forward to hearing form you. Bill Leonard W. Riley III Leonard W. Riley Jr Leonard W. Riley Sr John Newton Riley John Dye Riley Matson Riley Robert Riley brother of John Riley, both born in the North of Ireland.

Joy Riley Ramsey; Harvey R.Riley b:10/1/1887 oh d: 5/17/1956 Louisville,Ky VIOLA ZORNES/ZORENS b:4/5/1894 d: 4/19/1954 cinti.oh. Can you tell me more of your ZORNES Line? My Martha Zornes b. 1836 in Carter County, KY. Parent's; Andy Zornes Elizabeth Jordan 1852 Martha Zornes marries Thomas McGinnis 1879 they leave Greenup County, Kentucky next found 1880 in Cincinnati. Thanks for any and all information in advance. Tom in Florida.

Hello Bill, Yes, I received all your messages. Was alittle dissapointed you wasn't my long lost cousin. Hoping your RILEY family stayed close or more in touch then my RILEY family did. Let me correct your dates on your original email. Harvey R.Riley b:10/1/1887 oh d: 5/17/1956 Louisville,Ky VIOLA ZORNES/ZORENS b:4/5/1894 d: 4/19/1954 cinti.oh. Children: HARVEY Wm. b:4/1/1916 Oh d:7/21/1979 Az. WALTER P. b: 1/26/1918 oh d: 4/29/1994 Cinti,Oh Robert J. b:1/6/1924 oh..still living (my Dad) FLOYD & THOMAS both died infancy. GLADYS (JUNE) b:3/22/1926 d: 12/18/1980 JOHN LEROY b: 7/9/1931 d:4/14/1998 This is where the RILEY FAMILY kind of fell apart. Will send you what little info I have on their children next. Thank you, Joy Riley Ramsey

Searching for living male descendant of subject Walter P. Riley who died in Cincinnati 29 APR 1994. Walter was son of Harvey R. and Viola Riley who lived in Cincinnati at time of 10 JAN 1920 census. Walter was still living in Cincinnati at time of the 7 APR 1930 census. Listed as age 13. Had a younger brother Robert J. Riley age 6, born 12 MAR 1923 and died JUL 1990. Also listed was an older brother William H. Riley age 14 on 1930 census. William possibly born 25 AUG 1915 and died AUG 1965. Family has lived in Hamilton Co. since 1850. Anderson TWP 1850-1870, Village of California 1880 and Cincinnati since that date. A living male Riley descendent of either Walter, Robert or William will surfice. Thank you. Bill Riley

OH MY GOSH...... Are you by any chance UNCLE BIM'S son? I am ROBERT J. RILEY daughter, Joy Lynn. I have alot of info on my family. Please email me jlr@cinci.rr.com Joy Lynn Riley ----- Original Message ----- From: "leonard riley" <lwriii@hotmail.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] OBIT for Walter P. Riley d. Cincinnati 29 APR 1994 > > > > Searching for living male descendant of subject Walter P. Riley who died > in Cincinnati 29 APR 1994. Walter was son of Harvey R. and Viola Riley who > lived in Cincinnati at time of 10 JAN 1920 census. Walter was still living > in Cincinnati at time of the 7 APR 1930 census. Listed as age 13. Had a > younger brother Robert J. Riley age 6, born > 12 MAR 1923 and died JUL 1990. Also listed was an older brother William H. > Riley > age 14 on 1930 census. William possibly born 25 AUG 1915 and died AUG > 1965. Family has lived in Hamilton Co. since 1850. Anderson TWP 1850-1870, > Village of California 1880 and Cincinnati since that date. A living male > Riley descendent of either Walter, Robert or William will surfice. > Thank you. Bill Riley > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > DON'T send a message in ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters except when > typing a surname. It's shouting, and considered bad manners(Netiquette). > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Off of the top of my head (really) I can think of 2 different things this may refer to. 1) Way back when, meaning a long time ago, I recall a surname index on file cards at the library that was essentially the Genealogy Societies of what was submitted to them by members, of information on index cards. I guess it's possible it could have amounted to 60 films, but that seems a lot. 2) The library has also indexed surnames in books which were mentioned 3 or 5 times (don't recall which). I'm not sure if they continue to do this with staff cuts etc. on new acquisitions or not. But, the surnames used to be searchable via CINCH, by going to other or something. I haven't played enough with the new catalogue search engines to know how to find it now. In any case, before the catalogue was computerized, this all used to be in a separate card file at the library & perhaps still is (maybe those files near the City Directories?) Sorry I feel I'm getting old & my memory isn't exact anymore :-) Linda From: "stephanie miller" <stephiem@email.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] ? about LDS film > Good Morning! While browsing through the LDS film list for Hamilton County. I saw a group of 60 films labeled "Genealogy file Surname Index, Catalog cards in Cin. & Ham pub. Library". Has anyone on this list ever used these and were they helpful? I have ordered many, many films from LDS but sometimes the titles are misleading and the contents are not what I expect. Thanks for your help. Stephanie > -- > ___________________________________________________________

I believe that is a list of researchers for surnames? I could be wrong but we did do that back in the early 1980's -----Original Message----- From: stephanie miller [mailto:stephiem@email.com] Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 11:19 AM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OH-HAMILT] ? about LDS film Good Morning! While browsing through the LDS film list for Hamilton County. I saw a group of 60 films labeled "Genealogy file Surname Index, Catalog cards in Cin. & Ham pub. Library". Has anyone on this list ever used these and were they helpful? I have ordered many, many films from LDS but sometimes the titles are misleading and the contents are not what I expect. Thanks for your help. Stephanie -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx