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    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] 1891 Churches in Cincinnati
    2. Linda Boorom
    3. These were from copies I made downtown at the library sometime ago. I should note that I don't believe these include ALL the churches in Hamilton Co., mostly in what was then the city of Cincinnati, although I did note there were some listed outside of even present day city limits, but I also noticed quite a few missing that were then as now outside Cincinnati limits. I'm not aware of any old phone directories in existence. It is possible the library has them, perhaps in which ever department it is that has phone directories from all over (or from there in the "stacks"). Might I also ask, if anyone has any old listings like this hiding in your stacks & piles of research, would you please consider transcribing them for the website so that others may also benefit from the information? You can contact me if you have anything or questions about submitting something you have. I figured that there would be at least somebody else interested in this 1891 listing besides me :-) Linda Boorom co-coordinator Hamilton Co. OHGenWeb ----- Original Message ----- From: <Knowwe@aol.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] 1891 Churches in Cincinnati > > In a message dated 5/30/2005 5:00:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > lboorom@fuse.net writes: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/churches1891.html > > > > I am immediately grateful for your addition. Looking for my jewish great > grandparents newly arrived in 1887 I could find no records of them until the > 1920 census. I had no idea all these congregations existed at that time as > really three have survived. Where did you get the business listing? are there > phone directories going back? > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    05/30/2005 11:20:27
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] 1891 Churches in Cincinnati
    2. In a message dated 5/30/2005 5:00:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lboorom@fuse.net writes: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/churches1891.html I am immediately grateful for your addition. Looking for my jewish great grandparents newly arrived in 1887 I could find no records of them until the 1920 census. I had no idea all these congregations existed at that time as really three have survived. Where did you get the business listing? are there phone directories going back?

    05/30/2005 11:05:48
    1. 1891 Churches in Cincinnati
    2. Linda Boorom
    3. In case anyone is interested, I added a transcription of Churches from the 1891Williams' Cincinnati, Ohio General & Business Directory to the Hamilton Co., OHGenWeb site http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/mnpg.html To go directly to the transcription: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/churches1891.html Linda Boorom

    05/30/2005 10:59:26
    1. Allgeier's of Hamilton County
    2. Hello, In the most recent publication of the "Tracer" from the Hamilton County Genealogical Society, a list of the Deutsche Pionier Verein was posted, and an entry was noted for a Nicholas Allgeier of Gamshurst, Baden, as being a member of this organization, who was residing on Baymiller Street in Cincinnati I've got a large database of names of the families of Gamshurst Baden, and would like to know if there are any descendants or researchers out there of this man. Nicholas Allgeier did NOT appear on the listing of emigrants from Gamshurst, and appears to have left Gamshurst without permission, possibly? Nicholas Allgeier was born in 1858 son of Andreas Allgeier and Barbara Ganter of Gamshurst. Tim Allgeyer Cincinnati

    05/29/2005 07:25:37
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] Bernard Borgmann
    2. Loviti. Bernard's wife Mary was a Lübbers. Her father was Johann Herman Lübbers and her mother was Anna Maria Steffens. I found my husband's great grandparents in Cincinnati under Borkamann. I had to go page by page in the wards I thought the address they lived at might be in. Ann

    05/28/2005 05:41:07
    1. RE: [OH-HAMILT] re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Marilyn, thanks for the info! Very interesting! And thanks to everyone else who helped to answer my question. Phyllis <Original Message> www.va.gov My understanding is that they provide a free headstone, but there will be charges by the cemetery to place it.

    05/28/2005 02:21:27
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Phyllis, The Veteran's Administration is the organization that provides free military markers. Check their web site for what they provide, cost, requirements, etc. www.va.gov I checked with them last year when my husband passed away. My understanding is that they provide a free headstone, but there will be charges by the cemetery to place it. Marilyn -----------------original message----------------- In a message dated 05/27/05 5:27:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pgarratt@gessert.us writes: << Thanks Pat! I am wondering about the details, such as what kind of marker etc. and if it is only for Civil War vets or does it include earlier and later wars. I will check the NARA website for information. Phyllis >>

    05/28/2005 01:46:03
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. In a message dated 5/27/2005 5:27:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pgarratt@gessert.us writes: > Thanks Pat! I am wondering about the details, such as what kind of > marker etc. and if it is only for Civil War vets or does it include > earlier and later wars. I will check the NARA website for information. > > it involves all wars. pg ****************************************************** "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." -- Erma Bombeck

    05/27/2005 01:23:01
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] ? about LDS film
    2. stephanie miller
    3. Hi Linda, I did order the film and it was #2. Index cards of books that contain this name. Thanks for your imput. I am back to square one!! Stephanie in Oregon -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

    05/27/2005 12:58:29
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] Birth record, 1868
    2. Barbara Noble
    3. Hi CK, You might have better luck looking for a birth announcement in a local newspaper. Barbara in Indianapolis, IN Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> wrote: Hi, They told me the same thing when I was looking for the birth record of James Morton TALLEY who was born in Cincinnati, OH on , I believe, 10 Feb 1866. They suggested church records. But I don't know the religion of his parents. Did the newspapers then have birth announcements? Bill Allen ck wrote: > Seeking record of a birth known to have taken place in 1868, probably on 8 > August 1868, certainly no later than that, possibly sooner, but not prior to > that year. > > The Hamilton County Registrar's office has advised me that they hold no > birth records prior to 1875, as has the Ohio Historical Society > > Is there any other way to go? > > Child: Mary OSMOND > Father: Edmund OSMOND > Mother: Elizabeth EDWIN OSMOND > > C. Knowlton ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

    05/27/2005 10:49:37
    1. RE: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Pat Gough
    3. Phyllis, you need to proved to the VA that your ancestor was a civil war veteran -- NARA records, etc. -- and how you are related to the veteran and your job is done. pat ******************************************* Patricia A. Gough Secretary Penfield Public Library 1985 Baird Road Penfield, NY 14526 585-340-8720 ext. 4007 "Housework, if done properly, will kill you." -- Erma Bombeck -----Original Message----- From: Phyllis Garratt [mailto:pgarratt@gessert.us] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:51 PM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker Ann, do you know offhand what entitles a Civil War veteran to receive a military marker/headstone as you mentioned in your email? Phyllis G. -----Original Message----- And -- if you have a veteran ancestor who was entitled to a government headstone -- by all means contact the VA. It is still possible to get that military marker put on his grave - as long as you know where he's buried. ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. Then click on the link for Hamilton county. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

    05/27/2005 10:28:03
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Actually, I think their service just has to be proven to entitle them to a headstone (note: this may not be completely without charge). Ann

    05/27/2005 10:26:05
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] burials of Civil War vets
    2. Is it possible to get a death certificate for a grand parent from Hamilton County on request, or do I have to prove my relationship to that person?

    05/27/2005 09:53:36
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] burials of Civil War vets
    2. Hello, all; Not sure if the information I have will help everyone, but we have done extensive research here in Osceola County Florida regarding Civil War Vets. It just happens there were many veterans of retirement age who came to the small town of St. Cloud, formed a Grand Army of the Republic Post in 1910, and stayed here the rest of their lives. We have a muster list of over 700 total over a period of some 30 years. Most of those veterans were buried right here in Mt. Peace Cemetery, but there were some who were shipped elsewhere to be buried in the family plot or a town gravesite where they had been when they entered service in the 1860's. As with all things -- their burial site may have been a matter of their choice. If it is at all possible to learn where he was residing at the time of death, make all efforts to get his death certificate, funeral record, obituary. One of those just might mention where the remains were to be buried. Of course, if the soldier died in battle or for other cause during the war service, there should be some record of a military cemetery burial through the VA or National Archives. And -- if you have a veteran ancestor who was entitled to a government headstone -- by all means contact the VA. It is still possible to get that military marker put on his grave - as long as you know where he's buried. Best wishes, Ann Bergelt Florida

    05/27/2005 09:35:32
    1. re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Thanks Pat! I am wondering about the details, such as what kind of marker etc. and if it is only for Civil War vets or does it include earlier and later wars. I will check the NARA website for information. Phyllis -----Original Message----- Phyllis, you need to proved to the VA that your ancestor was a civil war veteran -- NARA records, etc. -- and how you are related to the veteran and your job is done.

    05/27/2005 08:27:11
    1. Re: [OH-HAMILT] Bernard Borgmann
    2. I noticed the simlarity of your Borgmann and my ancestor Maria(Marianna ) Boggermann/Boggemann. Have no success on LDS for my name(s).. Some records I checked @ St. Joseph Church on Linn St. Cinti(mostly german) shows: Baptisms: Johann ErnstBoggermann 6 Feb 1844-F: Mathias M: Eliz Tempe Johann Matthew Boggemann Mar 13 1848 F:Francis M: Anna Marie Macke Joannes Herman Henry Bogermann F: Henry M: Marianna Wacker. If any of this is relevant I also show Godparents-Marie Eliz. Bogggemann(ernst) Matthew Boggemann(J. matthew) H.H. Boemann(J. Hem.Henry) Good luck, by the way my ancestor Mary Anna/Marianna Borgmann/Boggermannn came from Hanover. I cannot trace her father or Mother. Regards _Loviti@aol.com_ (mailto:Loviti@aol.com)

    05/27/2005 08:17:30
    1. burials of Civil War vets
    2. I hope someone can be more helpful than I. However, my experience in finding that my great-great-grandfather had been in the Civil War is that it was strictly accidental. No family stories, no marker in the cemetery when I finally found where he was buried. (Buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Southgate, KY) He enlisted in 1861 in Hamilton County, was sent to Camp Dennison and served in the Band with the so called "German" outfit because the enlistees were all German speaking immigrants. He spent most of his time in the service in the hospital in Cincinnati having gotten sick from the poor food and cold wet sleeping conditions in Virginia. (I found this out from the nara records I sent for). So my advice is to look, as suggested below, at the nara.gov site and at the sites on Ancestry.Com that show records. Surely there will be a record somewhere of someone killed in action. Joan in Scottsdale AZ In a message dated 5/27/2005 10:00:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time, OHHAMILT-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Would SKS please tell me where I might find a death record for a resident who was KIA in the Civil War and buried in Hamilton County. Thanks. Gene F >> - --------------------------------- Hi Gene, Did you get a reply for this request? Have you checked the www.nara.gov web site for information? I also searched back through the list's archives and found information that many Civil War Burials are at Spring Grove Cemetery and Wesleyan Cemetery. Have you checked their online burial records? The National Park Service also has a web site with information about those who served in the Civil War: http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/soldiers.htm I would welcome any other comments from list subscribers who are knowledgable about Civil War history and records, since my memory is a little fuzzy on that topic at the moment. Good Luck! Marilyn

    05/27/2005 07:41:22
    1. RE: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Thanks Ann! I will look into this further. If what I find turns out to be useful to others, I will post the information. Phyllis -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker I think their service just has to be proven to entitle them to a headstone (note: this may not be completely without charge).

    05/27/2005 07:39:00
    1. Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker
    2. Phyllis Garratt
    3. Ann, do you know offhand what entitles a Civil War veteran to receive a military marker/headstone as you mentioned in your email? Phyllis G. -----Original Message----- And -- if you have a veteran ancestor who was entitled to a government headstone -- by all means contact the VA. It is still possible to get that military marker put on his grave - as long as you know where he's buried.

    05/27/2005 06:50:57
    1. Bernard Borgmann
    2. Can someone help me locate an obituary or death record for Bernard Borgmann born August 28, 1848 in Germany. He immigrated with his wife, Mary in 1868 and settled in Cincinnati. He was lasted found in the 1900 census living at 1030 Wilstach St. in Cincinnati. In 1910, his wife Mary was listed as widow and head of the household. Her son George was the only remaining child in the home. Thanks, Ann

    05/27/2005 05:35:47