Sorry I has taked me so long to reply to my Email about the Sturgis family , It was need to get the 3 replys , I'm still looking for info on the Sturgis side of this family , I'm in need of William H Sturgis parents , I have a John Sturgia living in Springfield twp could someone tell me if he had children and if one of them was William H Sturgis born 1818 Thank you again for your help Diane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I just received a copies of obituaries for Hiram Smith and Elizabeth J. Smith from the The Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County. It did not take too long and the charge was only $.50. I had e-mailed the library with the date of the publication and my name. They were great! Here are the obituaries. I am also including the other names listed on the same page. I did not transcribe the page in its entirety. If anyone wants more information, I will be glad to share. >From Cincinnati Commercial 10-27-1866 Died SMITH -- On Thursday, October 25, of cholera, Elizabeth J. Smith, the beloved wife of Dr. Hiram Smith, aged 47 years, 8 months and 18 days. Funeral from the residence of her husband, 285 West Sixth street, at 2 o'clock this (Saturday) afternoon. Friends of the family are invited to attend. (As a matter of information, the undertaker was J. Soards & Company according to the information at Spring Grove.) Others on the same page are as follows: James Davison of Covington, Kentucky, aged 56 Lucy Belle Helman, age 2 yrs 1 mo, daughter of W.H. Helman and Susie E. Helman, grandparent J. W. Robinson Emma C. Widner - no age given Charles Feller of Germany, aged 46 Dr. David Baird of Woodland Farm, Miami County, Ohio, 62 John W. Dunham, jr. of Wilmington, Ohio James C. Shaw, a native of Perth, Canada West, 34 Annie T. Harris, wife of John Harris, aged 33 >From Cincinnati Commercial July 10, 1883 DEATHS SMITH -- Monday evening, July 9, 1883, at 4 o'clock, Hiram Smith, in his 73d year, at his late residence, Norwood. Due notice of funeral will be given. Unfortunately, this is not my Dr. Hiram Smith. This Hiram Smith is buried at Spring Grove. He was born August 31, 1810 in Hamilton County, Ohio. His parents were Abraham and Elizabeth Smith. I still need help finding my Dr. Hiram Smith. If anyone can help, I would appreciate your help. Smiths are not the easiest people to track. In the 1870 census Dr. Hiram Smith was in Cumminsville, Ohio - essentially a suburb on the west side of Cincinnati. My information shows that Dr. Hiram Smith was born March 22, 1811 in Woodhull, Steuben County, New York. He married 2nd Mary Louisa Martin, July 14, 1868. I believe he was a member of the Presbyterian Church. The 1880 census does not show a Hiram that fits the information I have. Other deaths >From Cincinnati Commercial July 10, 1883 Britting, infant child, aged 2 mos 3 days, infant child of John and Christina Britting Cook, Arthur, infant son of Willard E. and Jennie Cook, age 4 mos Coats, M.H. in Covington, Ky, aged 67 Donn Ellen, Wm. Loeny, in San Francisco, aged 65 Hempstead, Dr. G.S.B., at Portsmouth, Ohio, King, Eugenie nee Dufour, aged 79 Kelso, Mary S., wife of James P in Bellevue, KY, 29 Taylor, Benjamin F., Newport Wilson, Orietta, eldest daughter of David A. and Annie D. Wilson, aged 9 years and 6 mos.

Hello. I agree. How could I get a copy of the information book you were speaking of? I don't mind paying for cc, if needed, etc. Thanks. Pavla

Hi Barbara, Please let me know how much a copy of this book would cost, as well as shipping charges to Indianapolis, IN. It sounds like a wonderful reference book that I could really use as all my ancestors were from Hamilton County, OH. Thanks for mentioning it to someone else. Sincerely, Barbara Noble in Indianapolis, IN Little Miami Publishing <barbara@littlemiamibooks.com> wrote: About the resources, I've been in and out of town but wanted to add the other valuable book (unless someone has already mentioned it) that is William Graver's Hamilton County, Ohio, Guide to Recorder's Indexes and Documents, 1794-1988. He lists all the records available to researcher's in this department (you would be surprised), the indexes and years available along with samples of how the index will look, and examples of what each index will lead you to. The Recorder's office should have a copy for you to look at when you arrive or let me know if you would like one before heading for Cincinnati. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: Resources in Cincinnati-where > Hello! > > Thanks to all, and Ray, Rita, that submitted information about the > resources in Cincinnati. Just wanted to acknowledge the fact that the > cooperation > is awesome! Thanks again.... > > Tim Allgeyer > > ______________________________ ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

This book sounds interesting. Would it be useful in researching from out of state. I would be interested in purchasing a copy. Does the book indicate if the records are indexed and will the recorders office check the index if asked? Thank you, Stephanie in Oregon -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

How could one get a copy before they arrive in Cincinnati? Adina > [Original Message] > From: Little Miami Publishing <barbara@littlemiamibooks.com> > To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/13/2005 10:12:14 AM > Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Re: Resources in Cincinnati-where > > About the resources, I've been in and out of town but wanted to add the > other valuable book (unless someone has already mentioned it) that is > William Graver's Hamilton County, Ohio, Guide to Recorder's Indexes and > Documents, 1794-1988. He lists all the records available to researcher's in > this department (you would be surprised), the indexes and years available > along with samples of how the index will look, and examples of what each > index will lead you to. The Recorder's office should have a copy for you to > look at when you arrive or let me know if you would like one before heading > for Cincinnati. > Barbara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TAllgeyer@aol.com> > To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:40 AM > Subject: Resources in Cincinnati-where > > > > Hello! > > > > Thanks to all, and Ray, Rita, that submitted information about the > > resources in Cincinnati. Just wanted to acknowledge the fact that the > > cooperation > > is awesome! Thanks again.... > > > > Tim Allgeyer > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ > -- Table of all States: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

About the resources, I've been in and out of town but wanted to add the other valuable book (unless someone has already mentioned it) that is William Graver's Hamilton County, Ohio, Guide to Recorder's Indexes and Documents, 1794-1988. He lists all the records available to researcher's in this department (you would be surprised), the indexes and years available along with samples of how the index will look, and examples of what each index will lead you to. The Recorder's office should have a copy for you to look at when you arrive or let me know if you would like one before heading for Cincinnati. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <TAllgeyer@aol.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: Resources in Cincinnati-where > Hello! > > Thanks to all, and Ray, Rita, that submitted information about the > resources in Cincinnati. Just wanted to acknowledge the fact that the > cooperation > is awesome! Thanks again.... > > Tim Allgeyer > > ______________________________

Hello! Thanks to all, and Ray, Rita, that submitted information about the resources in Cincinnati. Just wanted to acknowledge the fact that the cooperation is awesome! Thanks again.... Tim Allgeyer

Hi All - In looking over my list of "must see" graves at Spring Grove, I noticed that four infants born to my ggg-grandmother were buried in Section 29, apart from the rest of the family in Section 113. When I searched on just that section number (I love the Spring Grove site!), I got a huge list of various surnames and random clicking revealed that all of burials were that of young children before 1900 - the ailments differed but the ages that I saw were all under 4 years old. Also, Section B seemed to be for individual plots, rather than family lots. If anyone has any info on these two sections, I would be appreciative. Of course, I'll be there in a week's time (yay!), so I can ask in person, too. Best, Chaille

John, I don't recall there being a distinction between the books at the courthouse. But, I have often wondered if there is a list of what was lost with each fire & what was able to be restored after. There were several fires, I don't recall exactly the years of all, but 4 in all, 1st b/f 1800, 2nd ca 1814 when the courthouse was used as a barracks during the war, 3rd 1848/49 & last in 1884. We are told that following each fire the county basically salvaged what they could into new books I presume & also advertised for people to resubmit info to be "restored" and/or I guess this was done if the need arose, say perhaps following a death & the need arose to prove a relationship. If people moved away, had died or had no other reason to have their marriage record re-recorded, it's likely they didn't bother. Hence the reason for so many gaps in our records up through the last fire in 1884. But, back to the distinction between the books. I don't know if this will help, but I have posted a page to the Hamilton Co. OHGenWeb site which refers to the microfilm that LDS has of Hamilton Co. Marriage records: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamilt/marrbatch.html LDS description includes "Original", Restored A, Restored B, & Restored C. As I said, I don't recall their being a distinction between the books when I've been at the courthouse, but I also have to admit that I've mostly gone after copies for records say before 1850 which fall into the Restored A catagory & more recently for copies of later records after the 1884 fire. I will say that I've noticed by searching LDS with the batch #'s I've listed that is seemed with some of the restored records or maybe it was the single searchable batch under section C (1893-1903) that the marriages actually occured before the 1884 fire so perhaps were restored in 1893-1903 period. At some point I have thought about checking into this, I'd be curious if there was a record or something of when it was "restored", which who knows what valuable information one might glean from that if the courts required proof of some sort :-) Afraid this isn't much help, but if I find anything more conclusive I'll post it. If anyone else has something to add, please do. Linda Boorom Hamilton Co. OHGenWeb co-CC ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@cox.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Marriage Records of Hamilton County > Can someone explain the types of marriage records available at the > courthouse in Cincinnati? In various volumes of "Restored Hamilton County, > Ohio Marriages" by Jeffrey G Herbert, I see that some of the records are > from "Original Hamilton County Courthouse Marriage License Books" and some > are from "Restored Hamilton County Courthouse Marriage License Books." > > What is the difference between these two types of books and what period of > time is covered by them? When at the courthouse, is there a clear > distinction between these two types of records? > > John Charles Tippet > johntippet@cox.net > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Tired of this List? Going on vacation, a business trip? Or, do you just want off? Unsubscribing (and subscribing) are a snap from here! > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

John, Not sure I have all the details straight but I'll do my best here. In the early 1890's there was a fire in the courthouse and some marriage records were destroyed. I have seen the books or similar to those you mentioned attempting to index those records that were lost, using newspaper announcements, church records or other available sources. These books I have found at various libraries and historical societies. I am not aware if an actual certificate or record exists from the courthouse for those in these indexes. At least I have not been able to find those that I wanted. At the Hamilton County courthouse they have marriage records as early as 1817 through present day. The earliest ones are in bound volumes and starting, I believe, about the 1920's they are either on microfilm or microfiche. There is also a set of books called "Marriage Bans". The information on these marriage records is very basic and limited.....groom, bride, date, place, and who performed the service. These records end about the 1930's or 1940's. I hope this answers your question. Maybe someone else can fill in the details I'm missing or correct the information I have. I do know they are in the process of filming all the records and making them available online.......sometime in the future. Being a government agency, that's probably the best you'll get to narrow it down when it will be finished. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@cox.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Marriage Records of Hamilton County > Can someone explain the types of marriage records available at the > courthouse in Cincinnati? In various volumes of "Restored Hamilton > County, Ohio Marriages" by Jeffrey G Herbert, I see that some of the > records are from "Original Hamilton County Courthouse Marriage License > Books" and some are from "Restored Hamilton County Courthouse Marriage > License Books." > > What is the difference between these two types of books and what period of > time is covered by them? When at the courthouse, is there a clear > distinction between these two types of records? > > John Charles Tippet > johntippet@cox.net > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Tired of this List? Going on vacation, a business trip? Or, do you just > want off? Unsubscribing (and subscribing) are a snap from here! > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Can someone explain the types of marriage records available at the courthouse in Cincinnati? In various volumes of "Restored Hamilton County, Ohio Marriages" by Jeffrey G Herbert, I see that some of the records are from "Original Hamilton County Courthouse Marriage License Books" and some are from "Restored Hamilton County Courthouse Marriage License Books." What is the difference between these two types of books and what period of time is covered by them? When at the courthouse, is there a clear distinction between these two types of records? John Charles Tippet johntippet@cox.net

Hi, Does anyone have the newest death record books for Hamilton County? I'm looking for Ellen Lawler who died sometime after 1863. I can not find her after her marriage to James Lawler around that date. I don't know if they stayed in Cincinnati or where they went. I have been looking a long time. Thanks, Janet

Thank you Bob, Your answer was that you don't have to be there in person for the search to be done. Is that correct? That's what I needed to know. Thanks for your help, Susan in Kansas "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot

They will do the search for marriage records for you. I'm not sure if there would be any sort of fee. I'm not aware of any. I've been down there several times and have never heard mention of such a fee. The best advice I can give you is to call them and see just what their policy is. The closer you can get to the date of marriage the better chance of them finding it for you. They are currently in the process of having all the records filmed to be made available online. No telling when that will be finished. Hope this answered you question. Good luck. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <SUSZH@aol.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Resources in Cincinnati-where > In a message dated 6/11/2005 4:23:17 PM Central Daylight Time, > bgband@cinci.rr.com writes: > Marriage records for Hamilton Cty are located in Probate Court on the 10th > floor of the William Howard Taft building at 230 E 9th St, Cincinnati, OH > 45202.....513-946-3551. No appointment is necessary. The older > marriage > records are in bound volumes and .10 cents for a photocopy and .50 cents > for > those on microfilm/fiche. > I missed the answer to this question - will they do it for you for a fee > if > you live in Kansas and can't get to Cincy because you have parents 89, 92 > and > 94??? Or is it done strictly in person? > Thanks for your help. > > "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." > Hercule Poirot > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Bob, Many THANKS! Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob" <bgband@cinci.rr.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] St. John's cemetery/ Cincinnati Volksblatt > Carole > Check out this website for St. John Cemetery.....Cincinnati Catholic > Cemetery Society > ________________________________________________________________ Keep unwanted email out. Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information.

My mistake you have the wrong Tom. I never listed anything about those Naturalization records

you indicated that there were naturalization records from 1813? to early 2000's. I am want to find the small town they came from in Europer which might be reflected in the naturalization records.

In a message dated 6/11/2005 4:23:17 PM Central Daylight Time, bgband@cinci.rr.com writes: Marriage records for Hamilton Cty are located in Probate Court on the 10th floor of the William Howard Taft building at 230 E 9th St, Cincinnati, OH 45202.....513-946-3551. No appointment is necessary. The older marriage records are in bound volumes and .10 cents for a photocopy and .50 cents for those on microfilm/fiche. I missed the answer to this question - will they do it for you for a fee if you live in Kansas and can't get to Cincy because you have parents 89, 92 and 94??? Or is it done strictly in person? Thanks for your help. "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." Hercule Poirot

Carole Check out this website for St. John Cemetery.....Cincinnati Catholic Cemetery Society http://www.cccsohio.org/ The records for St. John are located in the office of St Mary Cemetery. The cemeteries are only minutes apart in St Bernard / Cincinnati. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Johnson" <ammcj@bellsouth.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 9:18 AM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] St. John's cemetery/ Cincinnati Volksblatt > List, > I am looking for the records of St.John's (Cathlolic)cemetery and don't > think they are available online. > I've found several references to LDS microfilm for this cemetery and have > a local center from where I can order film. Has anyone researched this > film with success? I have been to the LDS here a > few times and have had success with the records they have on-site, but > have not ordered > film before.I live in the Atlanta area and have to settle for doing my > research from here. Are there other resources available for this > cemetery? > > Also, I have found names I am researching in an index of obituaries in a > German newspaper, Cincinnati Volksblatt 1846 -1918. Where can I locate > the actual newspaper to extract the obit? I purchased the book on ebay. > It was indexed by Jeffrey G. Herbert > and published by the Hamilton County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical > Society. The > back of the book states that the index was extracted from microfilmed > issues of the > paper. I would be happy to do lookups from the index in the hope that > some kind > soul would also copy the obits of the folks I am researching: > > Edward MISTLE notice date: Oct. 23, 24 1891 date of death October 21, > 891 - page 8. > Elisabeth MISTLE, date of notice September 1, 1906, date of death August > 31, 1906 page 8. > Elisabeth KELSCH, date of notice July 25, 1912, date of death July 24, > 1912, page 8 > Joseph KELSCH, date of notice May 1, 1875, date of death April 29, 1875, > page 1 > Katharina KELSCH, date of notice January 7, 1905, date of death January 6, > 1905, page 8 > Katharine KELSCH, date of notice June 8, 1917, date of death, June 6, > 1917, page 8 > > I would be happy to pay any fees involved. > THANKS!!! > Carole > in Alpharetta, GA > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Keep unwanted email out. > Visit www.spamsubtract.com for more information. > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > ~~ The List GOLDEN RULE ~~ > Keep to genealogy, history, anything ancestor that pertains to Hamilton > County. ...Positively *NO* selling or OFF TOPIC announcements or > messages. If you're unsure, email the List Mom first at: > OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >