Anyone can look the 1880 census for free on ancestry.com and familysearch.org Milly Piros*Garfield Heights I have been to the end of the Earth. I have been to the end of the Waters. I have been to the end of the Sky. I have been to the end of the Mountains. I have found NONE that are not my Friends. >>>>>Navajo Proverb<<<<<

FYI, the following family is in the 1860 Hamilton Co., 10-WD Cincinnati census: Augs Seider, 33, Blksmith, Wurt (Wurt was transcribed by HeritageQuest Online. The image I have is hard to read.) Louisa Seider, 21, Baden Louisa Seider, 2 Rosa Seider, 10 mos. Less Augs, looks like the 1880 family. Do you want an .jpg image file of the census sheet? John Otto Va. Beach VA Mna1987@aol.com wrote: > Hi-I also need a lookup from the 1880 Hamilton County Census. I know that > there is a Louisa Seiter born 1858 listed as a daughter age 22 on the census, > but I don't know the pg # or the other family members. Does anyone have an > index? Thanks! > Ann > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Didn't the Sexton at Wesleyan run away with the perpetual funds? Scanned for viruses by SYMANTEC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:55 PM Subject: RE: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker > Hi Lori. > > I know about those perpetual fees as I started the Wesleyan Cemetery > website. Barely anyone pays or paid them there and that's one of the main > reasons why the cemetery went broke. As family members die out and others > move away, there's no one to collect from. It's a shame the cemetery > you're > dealing with didn't offer a one time fee or if they did, it wasn't done as > it would make your situation a lot easier to deal with. > > Base cost: It depends on the company you hire to do it or if the cemetery > has staff that can do it. Sometimes it may be the headstone company. > About > all you can do is question around. In my situation I was dealing with a > cemetery in Michigan. > > It sounds like the cemetery you are dealing with won't allow anything > without that fee paid but there may be legal 'work arounds'. The fee > would > be the same if there was or wasn't a stone there. Does the cemetery > expect > someone to still be paying for maintenance on burials done long ago in 500 > years? ... You can see how cemeteries get into financial problems. Years > ago > they may have charged only $3 or $5 a year. At Wesleyan they had the > option > of 'ivy' on the graves (extra one time fee for planting) of which many did > have long ago. In those cases it was then the maintenance job (cost) of > keeping it off of the large upright headstones. ... Good luck!! > > Donna > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lori Nichols [mailto:lori-n@juno.com] > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:44 PM > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker > > > Hi Donna, > > The death was 52 years ago yesterday, and he served in the Navy during > WWI. > > I also realized yesterday, and called my Dad to question him, because his > mothers brother also > served in WWI. My father confirmed that my uncle does not have a stone > at all. So, it looks like > I'll be working on trying to get a stone for my grandfather and my great > uncle, who died in the 1970's) > > Do you know the cost range for the base that you spoke of? I'm concerned > about the "perpetual fees" that > the cemetery says are owed, because once the people died, the care fees > were not kept up. (No one knew > about them until my parents inquired about a stone, and then were told > that thousands of dollars were owed > on the plot) > > I'll see where I get with phone calls today as far as getting the form > you spoke of. If I don't have much luck, > I might just call one of the local funeral homes and see if they can > spare a couple. > > Thanks for your help! > > Lori > > > On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:13:18 -0400 "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> > writes: >> Anyone who was in the military is eligible for a Military Headstone. >> I went >> thru the 'process' for my aunt who served during WWII. If a >> headstone is >> for a recent burial, the funeral home can usually supply the form >> and >> information. You do have to know when they served, etc and enter >> that on >> the form. A headstone for an earlier time period may be more lax on >> information needed. You would be responsible for a base for it which >> is a >> good idea to avoid it sinking. .... Donna >> >> >> To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military >> Marker >> >> >> >> >> ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >> NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this >> list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and >> times >> of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept >> within the list's guidelines. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > Lori Nichols > Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, > STEFANAC, BASIC > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Thanks for the lookups on RAPP/SEITER

No connection as of yet. Thanks for the look-up!

Also, Here are other members of the household: Louisa SEITER Self W Female W 53 BADEN Dressmaker BADEN BADEN Louisa SEITER Dau S Female W 22 OH Dressmaker WIRT BADEN Rosa SEITER Dau S Female W 20 OH Dressmaker WIRT BADEN John Otto Va. Beach VA Mna1987@aol.com wrote: > Hi-I also need a lookup from the 1880 Hamilton County Census. I know that > there is a Louisa Seiter born 1858 listed as a daughter age 22 on the census, > but I don't know the pg # or the other family members. Does anyone have an > index? Thanks! > Ann > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Following copied from the LDS familysearch.orgb site: Louisa SEITER Household Female Other Information: Birth Year <1858> Birthplace OH Age 22 Occupation Dressmaker Marital Status S <Single> Race W <White> Head of Household Louisa SEITER Relation Dau <Daughter> Father's Birthplace WIRT Mother's Birthplace BADEN Source Information: Census Place Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio Family History Library Film 1255026 NA Film Number T9-1026 Page Number 425A John Otto Va. Beach VA Mna1987@aol.com wrote: > Hi-I also need a lookup from the 1880 Hamilton County Census. I know that > there is a Louisa Seiter born 1858 listed as a daughter age 22 on the census, > but I don't know the pg # or the other family members. Does anyone have an > index? Thanks! > Ann > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hi-I also need a lookup from the 1880 Hamilton County Census. I know that there is a Louisa Seiter born 1858 listed as a daughter age 22 on the census, but I don't know the pg # or the other family members. Does anyone have an index? Thanks! Ann

Hi-can anyone help me? I need a look-up for a marriage between Louisa KAPP and August SEITER. 28 Dec 1856 in Hamilton County, OH. I'm trying to find the parents of both. Thanks for any help or advice. Ann Cromer

Hello group! During the past year I've posted inquires and would like to find out how many researchers are attempting to locate and connect the several Allgeier families of Hamilton county, Ohio. I simply like share resources and share notes, obtain further info, children dates, decendants, etc.etc, to see if there is a connection. Some of the families below I've located information, and others I have not, there are more families too in the research but only listed these below. Do you all have any additional families? Bernard (Ben) Allgeier and Mary Beyer (married ?1896) Bernard Allgeier and Elizabeth Pfister (Married May 1858) Franz Xavier Allgeier and Rosina Muhlenburg (married 19 Apr 1855) Engelbert Allgeier and Pauline Koch (Married 9 June 1881) Gottlieb Allgeier and Kate (Married before 1862) Heinrich Allgeier and Maria Elizabeth Ihrig (Married 4 May 1841) Jacob Allgeyer and Mary J. Gethin (Married 1 Oct 1880) Michael S. Allgeier and Henrietta Anderson (Married 31 dec 1849) Paul Allgeier and Elizabeth Reichert (Married 13 June 1849) Frank Allgeier and Margaret Sticksel (Married 11 Sep 1873)-son of Paul Chris Allgeier and Emma Weil(Married 25 feb 1881)-son of Paul Sebastian Allgaier and Sarah Synder (Married 4 Feb 1845) Edward A Allgaier and Rebecca Dunaway (Married 29 Nov 1873) son of Sebastian (Samuel) Nicholas Allgeier and Magdalena Neuner (married 24 May 1882) Joseph Allgeier and Louisa Ochs Joseph Allgeier and Fannie Fox (Fuchs) (Married 27 April 1886) Dionis (Dennis) Allgeier and Barbara Wittenberg (married 31 July 1888) These families are direct lineage...lots of info here, but still wanting addtional facts: Octavian Allgeyer and Victoria Schuh (married 1850 in Germany) Clemens Allgeyer and Maria Anna Volmer Patriz Allgeyer and Louisa Geiringer (Married 12 April 1860) Matthias Allgeyer and 1.) Barbara Follett; 2.) Caroline Leon (Butler County) Thanks for reading! Let's discuss............. Tim Allgeyer Cincinnati

I think you will find what you are looking for here: http://www.cem.va.gov/hm.htm On 6/23/05, jmcdonald85@netscape.com <jmcdonald85@netscape.com> wrote: > Donna - The benefit of a headstone is contingent on a Honorable Discharge or Retirement. Jack McDonald > > --- "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> wrote: > > From: "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:13:18 -0400 > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker > > Anyone who was in the military is eligible for a Military Headstone. I went > thru the 'process' for my aunt who served during WWII. If a headstone is > for a recent burial, the funeral home can usually supply the form and > information. You do have to know when they served, etc and enter that on > the form. A headstone for an earlier time period may be more lax on > information needed. You would be responsible for a base for it which is a > good idea to avoid it sinking. .... Donna >

Hi Lori. I know about those perpetual fees as I started the Wesleyan Cemetery website. Barely anyone pays or paid them there and that's one of the main reasons why the cemetery went broke. As family members die out and others move away, there's no one to collect from. It's a shame the cemetery you're dealing with didn't offer a one time fee or if they did, it wasn't done as it would make your situation a lot easier to deal with. Base cost: It depends on the company you hire to do it or if the cemetery has staff that can do it. Sometimes it may be the headstone company. About all you can do is question around. In my situation I was dealing with a cemetery in Michigan. It sounds like the cemetery you are dealing with won't allow anything without that fee paid but there may be legal 'work arounds'. The fee would be the same if there was or wasn't a stone there. Does the cemetery expect someone to still be paying for maintenance on burials done long ago in 500 years? ... You can see how cemeteries get into financial problems. Years ago they may have charged only $3 or $5 a year. At Wesleyan they had the option of 'ivy' on the graves (extra one time fee for planting) of which many did have long ago. In those cases it was then the maintenance job (cost) of keeping it off of the large upright headstones. ... Good luck!! Donna -----Original Message----- From: Lori Nichols [mailto:lori-n@juno.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:44 PM To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker Hi Donna, The death was 52 years ago yesterday, and he served in the Navy during WWI. I also realized yesterday, and called my Dad to question him, because his mothers brother also served in WWI. My father confirmed that my uncle does not have a stone at all. So, it looks like I'll be working on trying to get a stone for my grandfather and my great uncle, who died in the 1970's) Do you know the cost range for the base that you spoke of? I'm concerned about the "perpetual fees" that the cemetery says are owed, because once the people died, the care fees were not kept up. (No one knew about them until my parents inquired about a stone, and then were told that thousands of dollars were owed on the plot) I'll see where I get with phone calls today as far as getting the form you spoke of. If I don't have much luck, I might just call one of the local funeral homes and see if they can spare a couple. Thanks for your help! Lori On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:13:18 -0400 "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> writes: > Anyone who was in the military is eligible for a Military Headstone. > I went > thru the 'process' for my aunt who served during WWII. If a > headstone is > for a recent burial, the funeral home can usually supply the form > and > information. You do have to know when they served, etc and enter > that on > the form. A headstone for an earlier time period may be more lax on > information needed. You would be responsible for a base for it which > is a > good idea to avoid it sinking. .... Donna > > > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military > Marker > > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and > times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > Lori Nichols Researching: MCBRIDE, HOLAHAN, MARTIN, RYAN, QUIGLEY, LEE, MCCLOUD, STEFANAC, BASIC ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. Then click on the link for Hamilton county. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Lisa, The 1850 census didn't list the relationship of any of the household members. That procedure began in the 1880 census. If he was living with another family, he was most likely a boarder or hired hand. Marilyn ------------------original message---------------------- In a message dated 06/22/05 7:40:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Licrtyem@wmconnect.com writes: << I believe I may have found my g-grandfather on a 1850 census. The odd thing is that his family number is the same family number as the Hiatt family. I am assuming he was a boarder but he is not listed as such. Is there any other reason he might be listed with another family? >>

Donna - The benefit of a headstone is contingent on a Honorable Discharge or Retirement. Jack McDonald --- "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> wrote: From: "Donna St Felix" <dstfelix@erinet.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 01:13:18 -0400 To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker Anyone who was in the military is eligible for a Military Headstone. I went thru the 'process' for my aunt who served during WWII. If a headstone is for a recent burial, the funeral home can usually supply the form and information. You do have to know when they served, etc and enter that on the form. A headstone for an earlier time period may be more lax on information needed. You would be responsible for a base for it which is a good idea to avoid it sinking. .... Donna To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need.

Anyone who was in the military is eligible for a Military Headstone. I went thru the 'process' for my aunt who served during WWII. If a headstone is for a recent burial, the funeral home can usually supply the form and information. You do have to know when they served, etc and enter that on the form. A headstone for an earlier time period may be more lax on information needed. You would be responsible for a base for it which is a good idea to avoid it sinking. .... Donna To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Question re: Entitlement to a Military Marker

Hi Marilyn, I went there, and yes, he is entitled! I got a little emotional when I realized that my fathers dream of getting a stone for him and his mom will probably happen, and that my father will get to see it, god willing. It's so ironic that this all transpired today, as it is the 52nd anniversary of my grandfathers death. Apparently my grandmothers name would not get to be on the stone, because of the time period. Perhaps there's a way around that, where we could maybe pay for the additional engraving. I don't know what will happen with the cemetery and the "back fees" that they want before allowing a stone to be placed there. Perhaps the VA can get around that. Thanks to all of you for your help, you've certainly made my family very happy!!! -Lori -- Kaesemein@aol.com wrote: Lori, Headstones are provided by the US Dept. of Veterans Affairs at www.va.gov Click on Burial, then click on Headstones and markers in the left column for more information. Marilyn --------------------original message---------------------- In a message dated 06/22/05 4:43:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lori-n@juno.com writes: << My grandfather served in the Navy, stationed in Illinois during WW1, but did NOT participate in combat. Do you know if he would be entitled to a headstone? Because if he is, I need to do something, as there are no markers on his grave at all. (Boy, what a gift to my Dad that would be, as he always wanted a stone for his parents, but never could afford it. Once he attempted, but they wanted thousands of dollars in back "perpetual fees" before they'd approve a stone!) Thanks much! Lori >> ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ~ SUBJECT LINES ~ Think about it!! A picture's worth 1000 words; a Subject Line more! The 4 W's: Who? What? When? and Where? Don't leave home without 'em! ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Sorry, all, This "reply" going right to the mailing list tends to surprise me. I was obviously behind in my answer about the military marker and am very pleased it all worked out for Lori. Ann Bergelt

Lori; I honestly don't know the VA requirements for a veterans' marker, but I think they have to have served during some war time. The website for the Veterans Administration should have some place under "burials" or something like that with information about markers. Ann

I believe I may have found my g-grandfather on a 1850 census. The odd thing is that his family number is the same family number as the Hiatt family. I am assuming he was a boarder but he is not listed as such. Is there any other reason he might be listed with another family? Also, if anyone is looking for a relative in the following counties, let me know, I am at each library at least once a month. Ky - Letcher, Perry or Va - Wise, Dickenson. Just send me as much info as you can on the person and I'll see what I can do. Thanks, Lisa - Ky

I believe the Robert Jordans I have are different. I have one that died in 1968. One that died in 1946. Lisa Ky