I just joined Ancestry 2 weeks ago, and though it was steep, this is my hobby and fun. No bowling or other expensive hobbies, and it keeps me out of trouble !! I bet they fear their profits will either come down or disappear as more sites put genealogy data on the net for free. The census project is doing a fine job. Can't wait for it to be complete. http://www.us-census.org/ Cece

Yes, most all on Ancestry.com requires a subscription. You can tell because whatever you do not have automatic access to will have a shut padlock showing beside it. Pavla Chandler

In a message dated 8/16/2005 9:38:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DPRSjacksn@aol.com writes: Marilyn,I am also curious; does this lookup require subscription to ancestry? Thanks, Denise ------------------------------ Denise, Follow the directions I sent in my reply to Barbara. I don't know if a subscription is required now because I am a subscriber, but I remember being able to access those records before I became a subscriber about 4 years ago. Marilyn

Hi Barbara, On ancestry's main page, Line 1, type in either the first & last name of a specific person or you can also just type in a surname without any first names; on line 2 click United States in the "All Countries" drop down menu, then click the state you want or you can leave it at "All States", then click "Search". When the next page opens, look under the heading Birth, Marriage & Death Records. Marilyn ------------------original message------------------- In a message dated 8/16/2005 8:59:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jb.dooley@verizon.net writes: Marilyn, Please tell me how you found the Ohio Obit. collection at ancestry.com. I brought up the list of all databases, went to Ohio, where I found that there were 506 (I think it was) databases; went to the D for Death and to the O for obituary. Found neither. I'm thinking there must be a better way to find something than to scroll through page after page looking for 1 database out of 506! Will appreciate any suggestions. Barbara Dooley

In a message dated 8/17/2005 11:31:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mcnabbuc@netzero.net writes:please scroll down. Does anybody have a copy of this book? I saw a digitized version on ebay, which I considered purchasing but decided against it since I'm spending most of my money on the Truttier line out of Indiana currently (have a first edition family history due by the end of September), that had a Hemann included in the surname index. If anyone has this book - could you look it up and see what the first name of this Hemann is for me? Thanks! Hope all is well out there in family history research land Sorry I haven't been active locally for a while, my heads stuck in Clay, Vigo,I noticed Vigo County; could you please let me know of any online access to records in Vigo County since you have researched in this area? I am in California but am researching ZULSDORF who spent some time in Vigo County before Hamilton County. Thanks, Denise Ratterman Jackson You can reply off this sit esince it is not technically Hamilton County; _dprsjacksn@aol.com Greene_ (mailto:dprsjacksn@aol.com Greene) and Sullivan Counties in Indiana LeeAnn McNabb

Does anybody have a copy of this book? I saw a digitized version on ebay, which I considered purchasing but decided against it since I'm spending most of my money on the Truttier line out of Indiana currently (have a first edition family history due by the end of September), that had a Hemann included in the surname index. If anyone has this book - could you look it up and see what the first name of this Hemann is for me? Thanks! Hope all is well out there in family history research land Sorry I haven't been active locally for a while, my heads stuck in Clay, Vigo, Greene and Sullivan Counties in Indiana LeeAnn McNabb

Yes; All responses so far have been correct, as far as I know. Having served on our local county library advisory board for a while, I am aware the cost of providing Ancestry and other such database services to the public can be quite expensive. It is hundreds of times more in cost than an individual basic subscription for one year. But the benefits come for the library when more people begin to use their facilities in order to access the use of those databases. And I'm sure the expense will not seem warranted if the "hits" on those resources start dropping in number. Our library system here in Osceola County Florida has been extremely receptive to us in the genealogy community for the past few years, and we show our gratitude by donating volunteer time, publications, microfilm, etc. to the collection. We can access all from library facility computers, including Ancestry. However, we can also use some of the resources from home, such as HeritageQuest, American obituaries and newspapers, and other general informational options. Bottom line, I guess, is we all need to really investigate just what is available to us not only from the LDS family history centers and main library, but also the public libraries and possibly also some private ones. I'm always surprised when someone indicates on a very popular mailing list (like this one) that there is "nothing" to help them. Perhaps they just haven't looked real well. Ann

In a message dated 8/17/05 9:41:39 AM, AnnBergelt@aol.com writes: > If you have a public library card, by all means, check your local > library's  > availability.   Even if you have to go into a branch facility to  access > Ancestry, it's well worth a trip! > I live in Bozeman, Montana, which has about 22,000 citizens, not including all those who attend the University here. Our LDS library does have Ancestry.com (thank goodness!! I can't afford it for myself) but the Public Library does not, and even if it did, our little library only has about ten computers available and they are all in use all the time! I have wondered about it because there is never a computer avail. But thank you for reminding us of the Public library option. We (as individuals) just need to call our public library and the local LDS library in our area to find out which, if either, offer this great service. Thanks to all the libraries who do help the public in this way. I have heard that Ancestry.com is not happy about it being accessed by so many of the public for the cost of one, but otherwise their services would not be available to those of us (families) who have both parents working and are supporting a family and cannot afford the luxury of Ancestry.com in our home, especially considering that parents of young ones like myself often do not have the time to get the most use out of a subscription. Yes, it is inconvenient to have to wait till our LDS library is open (they have limited hours) but at least I can get into Ancestry.com and I am grateful for that. I am also deeply grateful to all on this mailing list and others who take the time and effort to help those of us who are limited access to records and who live so very far away from our ancestor's residences! I do try to return the favor by helping those who are researching ancestors in the Bozeman, MT area. Family history researchers are such a kind bunch! Thanks to all, Donna in MT

Hi; I believe I've seen mention of this subject on both addressed mailing lists, so am sending the same message to all. It is true that you may be able to use Ancestry.com or AncestryPlus or Ancestry's Library edition through an LDS family history center near you - and if you have one you are very fortunate. However, many public libraries also have access to one of those. Ancestry is not available from your home computer, however, unless you have a privately paid subscription. If you have a public library card, by all means, check your local library's availability. Even if you have to go into a branch facility to access Ancestry, it's well worth a trip! Best wishes, Ann Bergelt Florida

I believe that libraries and other similar entities such as schools who share a database (for example, Ancestry.com) with multiple users pay a much higher price for the service than do individuals. I'm sure that the cost depends on the size of the institution using the database. Just another reason to support our libraries; and if there was ever a library worth supporting it is the Cincinnati main library. Fantastic genealogy resources there! Phyllis -----Original Message----- I have heard that Ancestry.com is not happy about it being accessed by so many of the public for the cost of one

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Thanks for your time in answering my e-mail. Tim

In a message dated 8/16/2005 5:59:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jb.dooley@verizon.net writes: Marilyn,I am also curious; does this lookup require subscription to ancestry? Thanks, Denise Please tell me how you found the Ohio Obit. collection at ancestry.com. I brought up the list of all databases, went to Ohio, where I found that there were 506 (I think it was) databases; went to the D for Death and to the O for obituary. Found neither. I'm thinking there must be a better way to find something than to scroll through page after page looking for 1 database out of 506! Will appreciate any suggestions.

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The church located at the corner of Francis & Kemper Lane is the Episcopal Church of the Advent, which my aunt attended for years until her death in 1985. -Mary Cervantes Cincinnati Buffys97 wrote: > > > I have been away from genealogy--and my native Cincinnati -- for about > two years. We'll be moved back completely in September. Can't wait! > > I am searching for the parish church for 2233 Francis Lane, which is > near the 2000 block of Kemper, near Park Avenue, near Francisco > Avenue, near the old Edgecliff College, Cypress Avenue and Victory > Parkway. > > I don't think a book of marriages from this time period has been > published, but just in case -- the bride was Gertrude Spengler (2233 > Francis Lane) and Jules J. Arbogast (Fenwick Club). > > Thanks, Buffy > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Marilyn, Please tell me how you found the Ohio Obit. collection at ancestry.com. I brought up the list of all databases, went to Ohio, where I found that there were 506 (I think it was) databases; went to the D for Death and to the O for obituary. Found neither. I'm thinking there must be a better way to find something than to scroll through page after page looking for 1 database out of 506! Will appreciate any suggestions. Barbara Dooley At 03:08 PM 8/11/2005, you wrote: >Susan, > >I may have mispoke. It's not exactly a Death INDEX but rather the Death >Records for Ohio from 1958 - 2000 and the Ohio Obituary Collection that are >available at ancestry.com > >The Death Record gives the person's name, age, death date, mother's maiden >name, county where they died, birthplace, death certificate # and volume. > >The obituary collection gives date of birth/death, age at death, other >name mention and Newpaper Location (city and name of newspaper and date). >The obituary can also be viewed by clicking on the link but so far I've only >been been able to view them for 2005. > > I don't think it's complete. > >Marilyn > >----------------------original message---------------------- >In a message dated 08/11/05 1:56:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, SUSZH@aol.com >writes: > ><< Marilyn, > > What is the death index you used to locate the information on the Wymer > name? > > Susan Kost > >> > > >==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a problem, >question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact >the List Mom off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thanks for all the help with the Wymers. I appreciate it. Lisa

Gene: Thanks for the information. I will be going there is a month or so to photograph some tombstones. What can I do for you? John Charles Tippet johntippet@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Mix" <genem@dhol.org> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Cemetery Directions > Mt Washington is on Beechmont (125) at Beechcrest next to the > Postoffice. If I remeber right you need to go around the block behind > the postoffice to Sutton St to get in. > > After I went there a few years ago I heard that the TP White funeral > home on Beechmont is the Sexton for the cemetery. > > If you go there I may need a fovor, if you will. > > Gene Mix > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > ==> From: "John Charles Tippet" <johntippet@cox.net> > ==> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:41:04 -0700 > > Can anyone give me directions to the following cemeteries from the > Beechmont area (I275 at SR 125): > > Blue Ash Cemetery Greenwood Cemetery Maple Grove Cemetery Mt > Washington Cemetery Newtown Cemetery > > John Charles Tippet johntippet@cox.net > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~ The Resources in the > USGenWeb's Parade of States Awaits! ~*~*~*~ -- Table of all States: > http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinks-table.html > > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for > stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million > names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > . > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Tired of this List? Going on vacation, a business trip? Or, do you just > want off? Unsubscribing (and subscribing) are a snap from here! > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Could this be your grandmother OR is she older than this Evelyn WYMER? Social Security Death Index Name: Evelyn Wymer SSN: 288-01-7491 Last Residence: 45248 Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio, United States of America Born: 4 Jul 1917 Died: Nov 1984 State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951 --------------------------------- Here is a WYMER family in Hamilton County, Millcreek Township, Ohio in the 1860 census: Name Home in 1860 (City,County,State) Age in 1860 Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Gender Name: Henry Wymer Age in 1860: 40 Birthplace: Germany Home in 1860: Millcreek, Hamilton, Ohio Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Cincinnati Roll: M653_980 Page: 60 Year: 1860 Head of Household: Henry Wymer Household Chas Wymer Cincinnati Ward 4, Hamilton, OH 29 1830 Ohio Male Henry Wymer Millcreek, Hamilton, OH 40 1819 Germany Male Mary Wymer Millcreek, Hamilton, OH 30 1829 Germany Female Lana Wymer Millcreek, Hamilton, OH 8 1851 Germany Female Michael Wymer Millcreek, Hamilton, OH 3 1856 Ohio Male Susan Wymer Millcreek, Hamilton, OH 60 1799 Germany Female Source: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gsfn=&gsln=wymer&sx=&f23=OH&f3=hamilton&f4=&f10=&f13=&prox=1&db=1860usfedcenancestry&ti=0&ti.si=0&gl=&gss=&gst=&so=3 NOTE: You should also try soundex surnames such as WEIMER. Bill Fogle Scanned for viruses by SYMANTEC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Scharf" <rmscharf@ocsnet.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Wymer look up > Lisa, There are no WYMER's listed in either Wesleyan Cemetery (1842 on) > or Vine Street Hill Cemetery (1852 - 1977). > > Bob S > > At 11:00 PM 8/13/05 -0400, you wrote: >>Hi. The Wymer's I am looking for are from Hamilton and Clermont County. >>My >>grandmother, Evelyn Olive Wymer was born in Cincinnati. My mother was >>born in >>Clermont County. Also, Lilian Wymer worked as a nurse in Cincinnati. I'm >>not for sure how many generations lived in Hamilton County though. Thanks >>for >>all the help. Lisa

Also, it's where I-275 & I-74 split, between Rybolt Road & Miamitown, if that helps. You must be looking for St Bernard's Church. I am the Minges descendant that you spoke with a while ago. There are Minges & Allgeiers buried at St B's and Miami Cemetery. So there's your answers! Diane Weber Harrison OH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Pat McQueary" <mpmcqueary@msn.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Allgeier's of Hamilton County-Taylor's Creek > Hello, > Taylor's Creek is in the Western Park of Cincinnati. You asked what roads crossed through it, they Springdale Rd. Harrison Rd. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: TAllgeyer@aol.com<mailto:TAllgeyer@aol.com> > To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 4:05 PM > Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Allgeier's of Hamilton County-Taylor's Creek > > > Hello, > > Anyone know where Taylor's Creek is today, i.e. what roads pass through > it, etc. > > Also, about two years ago I was inquiring about the Allgeier's of > Hamilton County and a person responded that she was a descendant of Henry Allgeier > (b.1878) and Margaret Minges. At the time I didn't have enough information > or research to connect the dots, but now, I do in fact have a conection to > you and can trace our lineage back into Baden, Germany. > > Would love to find an answer to both questions. > > > Tim Allgeyer > Cincinnati > > > >