M Hess, The earliest I find a BOCKHORST in Hamilton County is in 1850 census records but no Anna or Catherine is listed: Gerrard Bockhorst, Cincinnati Ward 9, Hamilton Co., OH b. abt. 1822 Germany Mary Bockhorst, Cincinnati Ward 9, Hamilton Co., OH, b. abt. 1822 Germany The first Anna BOCKHORST that shows up is in the 1870 MO census The first I find a Catherine BOCKHORST is in the 1860 MO census in St. Louis. She's age 25, born 1834 in Hanover, Germany. In the 1900 census there's an Anna BOCKHORST in Cincinnati, but the index says she's born 1882 in Ohio. Marilyn --------------original message------------------- In a message dated 8/20/2005 10:17:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, MHess138@aol.com writes: I am looking for any information on this family. In particular one Catherine/Anna Bockhorst born about 1830 or so. She may have been born in Germany. M Hess

Hi , While this is not my Laura Keating, I sincerely thank you for taking the time to do this lookup. It is appreciated. God Bless. Evelyn in AR At 08:30 PM 8/22/2005, Cindy Walters wrote: >Hi Evelyn: > >There is 1 KEATING listed but no HANRAHAN'S. > >KEATING, Laura - Div.; d/o Harry Joseph WOLF & Berdella RUDOSOL. > >Laura Keating b. 11-29-1904 d. 11-15-1949 Sec. 22 Grave 2363 > > >Cindy a Cincinnatian LOST in Florida >Researching: SCHWEIN, DIVEL(E)Y, FERGUSON, VON HEDT > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Evelyn F. Lehman [mailto:evlee@cox-internet.com] >Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:12 PM >To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Look-up for Vine Street Hill Cemetary > > >Bob, > >I would very much appreciate a lookup for KEATING and HANRAHAN. > >Thank you. God Bless. > >Evelyn in AR > > > > > >At 08:16 AM 8/22/2005, you wrote: > >Larry, There are 34 ROSS's listed in Vine Street, but none of your names. > > > >Bob S > > > >At 04:55 PM 8/21/05 -0400, you wrote: > >>Are K(C)atherine or Lilly Ross in Vine Hill? > >> > >> Larry > > > > > > > >==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > >This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a problem, > >question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact the List Mom > >off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. > > > >============================== > >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >______________________________ > > >==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post >your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Evelyn, There is a James Keating at Our Lady of Victory Churchyard Cemetery, in Delhi Township. His death date was 14 May 1863. He was 57 years old. Hope this helps, Lori ----- Original Message ----- From: Evelyn F. Lehman<mailto:evlee@cox-internet.com> To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Look-up for Vine Street Hill Cemetary Bob, I would very much appreciate a lookup for KEATING and HANRAHAN. Thank you. God Bless. Evelyn in AR

Bob, How can i find someone that was born in Cin.Ohio in 1840? Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Scharf" <rmscharf@ocsnet.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:35 AM Subject: [OH-HAMILT] BROWNING & GOODMAN in Vine Street Hill Cemetery > Judy, There are 2 BROWNING's at Vine St.: > > Goldie w/o of Charles D. & d/o John & Emma STEINFELD, d. Hamilton, OH. 48y, > d. 18 Jan 1942, buried in Section 23, Lot 42, grave 1 > > Stella, w/o William & d/o Philip STEIN & Louise nee STEMPHIE, d. 15 Aug > 1949, b. Sec 23 Lot 140, gr. 3 > > There also are 2 GOODMAN's interred there: > > Alfred Karl, h/o Ruth A. & grd s/o Charles REISS, 58y, d. 14 Feb 1963, b. > Sec 17 Lot 88 gr 6 > > Alma - married, 25y, d. 30 Nov 1930, b. Sec 18 lot 198 gr 2 > > I hope that this is of some value. > > Bob S CA > > At 11:44 PM 8/19/05 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, > >Has any one seen any Browning or Goodman on Vine Street? > > Judy > >- > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Missed posts? Deleted that one that put a chink in the wall? Try the Archives. Select either searchable or browsable Archives from here! http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Bob, A very kind offer. Is the sunname ASCHE in the book?

Selected Hamilton County, Ohio, Church Baptism Records, 1870-1879 by Jeffrey Herbert is Vol. 3 which the library has listed simply as "Selected Hamilton County, Ohio, church baptism records" in the index. The library does have Vol. 3 listed so they do have it. Little Miami Publishing has it listed as new, so it must be recent. If you have trouble finding it in the catalogue by the title try searching for the author Jeffrey Herbert. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "miriam" <mcnabbuc@netzero.net> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Jeffrey Herbert's new book > I looked for it at the library yesterday and didn't see it in their > catalogue. They must not have purchased a copy yet. So, I guess I'd be > interested in anyone that is doing lookups in it as well. By the way, > Protestant or Catholic or both? > > LeeAnn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Lippelman" <jansgen@gmail.com> > > > > Is anyone doing look up's in Jeffrey Herbert's baptismal book in the > > 1870's? > > If so, could they please check a name for me? I'm looking for my > > grandfather's record. He was born in 1877. Charles Joseph Rudershauser or > > Charles Joseph Neuhaus. Could be under either name. > > Thanks, > > Janet > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

In a message dated 8/22/2005 7:15:24 AM US Eastern Standard Time, gilburns@aol.com writes: I also have interest in this topic from the lunacy standpoint - I cannot find death info for a distant great uncle who was listed as insane on census records from 1850 thru 1880. My interest is also regional, since the families he did and could have lived with were on both sides of the river. Hi Mark, My genealogist found the record in the index of a court book in Champaign County, Ohio, but the clerk wouldn't let her see it. I have no idea what is in it or what happened. You could try to find a court "lunacy" record at the courthouses in Hamilton Co., Ohio and over the river in Kentucky. Has anyone heard of a "lunacy" record? I'm so curious about this I can't stand it! By the way, I did find the death certificate and one-line obit for this ancestor: He committed suicide at his home. I wonder if all suicides had a court "lunacy" record? Maybe that is what the record contains. The genealogist did not give me the date of the record, but my ancestor died in 1884. Sincerely, Susan E. Davis

Susan, I recall that someone on this list got medical records from the Ohio Historical Society for a relative who was confined to Longview State Hospital as a mental patient years ago. Perhaps there's a difference as to whether you can get the records from the court or from the mental hospital? You might try contacting the Ohio Historical Society to find out. They might be able to also give you information about the adoption records. www.ohiohistory.org Marilyn ------------original message----------------- In a message dated 8/22/2005 2:12:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, SHASTA4737@aol.com writes: My genealogist actually found that record but the clerk (common pleas, probate, I think) told her that she couldn't see it because all lunacy records in Ohio are sealed forever -- so this would still apply to Hamilton Co., Ohio, too. I've tried to find out, but no one but that clerk holding the record seems to know. Does anyone know where I could find out for sure? ........a librarian in Preble County and she said adoption records in Ohio are sealed forever. Is this true?

Hi, Whoops, I made a mistake with the lunacy record -- that record is in Champaign County, Ohio. My genealogist actually found that record but the clerk (common pleas, probate, I think) told her that she couldn't see it because all lunacy records in Ohio are sealed forever -- so this would still apply to Hamilton Co., Ohio, too. I've tried to find out, but no one but that clerk holding the record seems to know. Does anyone know where I could find out for sure? I have two adoption records to find. One is in Hamilton Co., OH and one is in Preble Co., Ohio (I think) -- I really didn't get very far because I talked to a librarian in Preble County and she said adoption records in Ohio are sealed forever. Is this true? I also am trying to obtain a 1921 birth certificate from Hamilton Co., Ohio. I was told that the only people that can get it are the children of the person, the parents, or the spouse. My mother could sign for it because the deceased individual was her sister, or I could sign for it because I was her niece, but there are no children, parents, or spouses to sign for it. Is it true that only the parents, spouse, or children of a person can sign for a 1921 birth certificate? As you can see, I'm having problems obtaining records. I just would like to know for sure that these clerks have the right information. Please help me if you can. Thanks! Susan

Bob, I would very much appreciate a lookup for KEATING and HANRAHAN. Thank you. God Bless. Evelyn in AR At 08:16 AM 8/22/2005, you wrote: >Larry, There are 34 ROSS's listed in Vine Street, but none of your names. > >Bob S > >At 04:55 PM 8/21/05 -0400, you wrote: >>Are K(C)atherine or Lilly Ross in Vine Hill? >> >> Larry > > > >==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >This List is dedicated to Hamilton County, Ohio. If you have a problem, >question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact the List Mom >off-list at OHHAMILT-admin@rootsweb.com Thanks. > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Are there any Rolands listed here? Thanks, Bobbie/N.C. _bcorpw@aol.com_ (mailto:bcorpw@aol.com)

In Jeffrey Herbert's book, is it Catholic baptisms? I thought the library would have it too. Guess not. Janet On 8/22/05, miriam <mcnabbuc@netzero.net> wrote: > > I looked for it at the library yesterday and didn't see it in their > catalogue. They must not have purchased a copy yet. So, I guess I'd be > interested in anyone that is doing lookups in it as well. By the way, > Protestant or Catholic or both? > > LeeAnn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Lippelman" <jansgen@gmail.com> > > > > Is anyone doing look up's in Jeffrey Herbert's baptismal book in the > > 1870's? > > If so, could they please check a name for me? I'm looking for my > > grandfather's record. He was born in 1877. Charles Joseph Rudershauser > or > > Charles Joseph Neuhaus. Could be under either name. > > Thanks, > > Janet > > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this > list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times > of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept > within the list's guidelines. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Regarding particular Lots at Vine Street Hill Cemetery: The cemetery has records organized by Lot and will provide you with a copy showing everyone who is buried in a certain Lot. I visit the offices when I need things and there is a very small fee for photocopying but I am sure they could also respond by fax or snail mail (for a fee) to service out of town people. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Scharf To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Look-up for Vine Street Hill Cemetary Judy, This is recorded for Harry ANDERSON: h/o Marie & s/o John, 58y, 22 Feb 1948, buried in Sec 22 gr 2252 For Marie, the record shows: Marie J., w/o Harry & d/o Adam ZAEH & Louise nee WEISE, born 19 Jan 1888, d. 18 Jul 1960, b. in Sec 22 gr 2253 The Vine Street Record is alphabetized and lookups are relatively easy. Most burial locations are listed, altho some may lack either the Section number, the Lot number or the grave number. Finding out all the names for a particular Lot would be a major job. Bob S At 12:21 PM 8/20/05 -0400, you wrote: >Bob S Thank you for your offer to do a look-up for Vine Street Hill >Cemetary. Would you see what the listing says for my grandfather, Harry >Anderson who >died in the late 1940's. And his wife, Marie, nee Zaeh. Is there any way to >tell who is buried on the same lot ? I have been waiting for Vine Street >Hill >to come online but it looks like it may be awhile. Thank you again. Judy >Anderson > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== Tired of this List? Going on vacation, a business trip? Or, do you just want off? Unsubscribing (and subscribing) are a snap from here! http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/OH/hamilton.html ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.12/75 - Release Date: 8/17/2005

Hello Searchers, I'm hoping someone out there may have some infor that will help me out.My g-aunt Zola/Zora Hardiman ( b abt 1901 Cincy) married Clifford F.Herkert pre 1920 census.I have the census listing for them.I also have the census for 1930 census for Clifford married to Mary Urmanic(b 31 Oct 1908 Cincy),with son Clifford.Mary would have been only 10 at Cliffords birth so it's impossible for her to be the mother of son Clifford.Son Clifford b 5 Jun 1920,census date 12 Jan 1920,Zola and Clifford were living with my g-grandmother Margaret Hardimam at 3004 Price Ave.,Cincy.Can anyone help me figure out what happened to Zola?I have no way of knowing if she died or if they were divorced.Does anyone have any records that may help me in finding out what happened to Zola? There is nothing at Spring Grove Cemetery for her that much I can tell you.I wish all cemeteries made genealogy as nice as the site as they have. Spring Grove is the best one I have ever run across in my years of searching. Thanks so much for any help!!!!! Stacy Mitchell-Ryan

I think it has not been out long. That would explain why the library does no have it. It's not on amazon.com yet, either. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Lippelman" <jansgen@gmail.com> To: <OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Jeffrey Herbert's new book > In Jeffrey Herbert's book, is it Catholic baptisms? I thought the library > would have it too. Guess not. > Janet > > On 8/22/05, miriam <mcnabbuc@netzero.net> wrote: >> >> I looked for it at the library yesterday and didn't see it in their >> catalogue. They must not have purchased a copy yet. So, I guess I'd be >> interested in anyone that is doing lookups in it as well. By the way, >> Protestant or Catholic or both? >> >> LeeAnn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janet Lippelman" <jansgen@gmail.com> >> >> >> > Is anyone doing look up's in Jeffrey Herbert's baptismal book in the >> > 1870's? >> > If so, could they please check a name for me? I'm looking for my >> > grandfather's record. He was born in 1877. Charles Joseph Rudershauser >> or >> > Charles Joseph Neuhaus. Could be under either name. >> > Thanks, >> > Janet >> >> >> >> ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== >> NO Virus warnings, seasonal greetings or private 'chit-chat' on this >> list, okay! Other than that, anything pertaining to the lives and times >> of those we seek in Hamilton County is permissible, but MUST be kept >> within the list's guidelines. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== > Have you been to the *NEW* HAMILTON COUNTY OHIO Message Board? To get > there, go to http://boards.rootsweb.com click on the U.S. States link. > On the next page, click on the Counties link by the file folder icon. > Then click on the link for Hamilton county. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 > >

I looked for it at the library yesterday and didn't see it in their catalogue. They must not have purchased a copy yet. So, I guess I'd be interested in anyone that is doing lookups in it as well. By the way, Protestant or Catholic or both? LeeAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Lippelman" <jansgen@gmail.com> > Is anyone doing look up's in Jeffrey Herbert's baptismal book in the > 1870's? > If so, could they please check a name for me? I'm looking for my > grandfather's record. He was born in 1877. Charles Joseph Rudershauser or > Charles Joseph Neuhaus. Could be under either name. > Thanks, > Janet

Is anyone doing look up's in Jeffrey Herbert's baptismal book in the 1870's? If so, could they please check a name for me? I'm looking for my grandfather's record. He was born in 1877. Charles Joseph Rudershauser or Charles Joseph Neuhaus. Could be under either name. Thanks, Janet

Hi, Interesting question, and I'm looking forward to someone having an answer. However, the 1881 date would seem to belong to those records, if recorded in Hamilton County, that would have been destroyed in the 1884 courthouse fire (unless, like the marriages, they were somehow "restored"). What court would have been in charge of adoption and lunacy? Probate? Family Court (if they had that designation then)? There may be some mention in the court minutes. Ann Bergelt Florida

Thanks for the your effort. Larry

Susan, you got farther into this subject than I did, I just got the answer 'we do not have those'. I also have interest in this topic from the lunacy standpoint - I cannot find death info for a distant great uncle who was listed as insane on census records from 1850 thru 1880. My interest is also regional, since the families he did and could have lived with were on both sides of the river. thanks Mark Gilbert our southwest ohio families' genealogy is at http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=eimarkg -----Original Message----- From: SHASTA4737@aol.com To: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:35:12 EDT Subject: [OH-HAMILT] Are adoption and lunacy records sealed forever? Hi, I've been trying to obtain adoption records in Hamilton County, Ohio. The clerk told me that they are sealed forever. Is this a new rule? I thought it was only for 75 years. This ancestor's adoption was about 1881. Also, I've tried to get a "lunacy" court record on one of my great grandfathers and was told that these are sealed forever also. The lunacy record is also from about 1881. Could someone tell me if this is Ohio law or are the clerks in error? Could different counties have different rules on adoption and lunacy records? Thanks for any help! Sincerely, Susan E. Davis ==== OHHAMILT Mailing List ==== DON'T send a message in ALL CAPS or UPPER CASE Letters except when typing a surname. It's shouting, and considered bad manners(Netiquette). ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx