Cece, I just had a chance to read your post and know that Mr. Arthur Brownell bought the J. B. Kelly Photographic Studio or Old Reliable Gallery from James B. Kelly in 1880. See this website. Http://www.rootsweb com/~kykenton/Kelly.htm. Also see http://www.rootsweb.com/~kykenton/kirkby htm. Hope this helps. Renee Werth Thanks to all who have taken the time and had an interest to respond. This last letter from Phyllis sounds interesting in its idea. The proof did Have directions, so it is entirely possible portrait was being made. Funny The family would have the proof, but no sign of a portrait or a final print Of the proof ! The dates coincide with the dates my G Grandmother would have been a young Woman. Once again, I thank you all. Phyllis, I will join the group you mentioned. Cece

Thanks to all who have taken the time and had an interest to respond. This last letter from Phyllis sounds interesting in its idea. The proof did have directions, so it is entirely possible portrait was being made. Funny the family would have the proof, but no sign of a portrait or a final print of the proof ! The dates coincide with the dates my G Grandmother would have been a young woman. Once again, I thank you all. Phyllis, I will join the group you mentioned. Cece > If you still need help, the Rootsweb Vintage Photos list is excellent > for dating photos. > > Phyllis

Does anyone have info on a Cigar Store in Cinc. near Ward 10 in 1850. My gg grandfather's brother worked as a cigar maker. His name was Wilhelm Schulze. Thanks, JJ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

I checked the following Cincinnati City directories and did not find any Headlight Portrait Co: 1876, 1887-88, 1896, 1905, 1910, 1928/29, 1933, 1941, and 1951. Nor did I find Brownell Photographic Studio or a Brownell as a photographer in any of the years above, except for 1887-88 only which shows a C.A. Brownell photographer listed at 196 W. 5th St. Perhaps the Headlight portrait co was in business only a short time. I do not know what the photo looks like, but is it possible that the photo was taken in the 1880's and a portrait painting done of it in the 1930's? If you still need help, the Rootsweb Vintage Photos list is excellent for dating photos. Phyllis -----Original Message----- > I have found an old picture of my G Grandmother or grandmother. I was > wondering if there has been discussion on how to date a picture, No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: 2/7/2008 11:17 AM

You didn't mention if you have an idea of the date. Just to help you figure when it was taken, the Carew Tower was finished being built around 1931, if that helps. Joan Williams, Miami, FL. On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Cece wrote: > Hello, > > I have found an old picture of my G Grandmother or grandmother. I was > wondering if there has been discussion on how to date a picture, or > better > yet, is there a resource to determine names. I have the logo of the > photo > company. The pic I have is a proof, and you can read on the back, the > photographers remarks concerning the final copy for size and posture. > > It is: > Brownell Photographic Studio > 196 W Fifth St. > Cincinnati > > However, a little stamp pad marking is over the bottom of the logo > and it > reads: > > Headlight Portrait Company > 189 Vine Street > Carew Bldg. No. 60 > Cincinnati > > Any possibilities I could determine any info. about this pic with > the addys > above? > > Thank You so much, > > Cece in Georgia > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

The following is found in "Ohio Photographers 1839-1900" book by Diane VanSkiver Gagel: Brownell, C A - Freemont 1871-72; Cincinnati at 196 W Sixth 1891-94 and 216 W Sixth 1895. Hope this helps. Joan/OH In a message dated 2/7/2008 9:55:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello, I have found an old picture of my G Grandmother or grandmother. I was wondering if there has been discussion on how to date a picture, or better yet, is there a resource to determine names. I have the logo of the photo company. The pic I have is a proof, and you can read on the back, the photographers remarks concerning the final copy for size and posture. It is: Brownell Photographic Studio 196 W Fifth St. Cincinnati However, a little stamp pad marking is over the bottom of the logo and it reads: Headlight Portrait Company 189 Vine Street Carew Bldg. No. 60 Cincinnati Any possibilities I could determine any info. about this pic with the addys above? Thank You so much, Cece in Georgia To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilto n/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Hello, I have found an old picture of my G Grandmother or grandmother. I was wondering if there has been discussion on how to date a picture, or better yet, is there a resource to determine names. I have the logo of the photo company. The pic I have is a proof, and you can read on the back, the photographers remarks concerning the final copy for size and posture. It is: Brownell Photographic Studio 196 W Fifth St. Cincinnati However, a little stamp pad marking is over the bottom of the logo and it reads: Headlight Portrait Company 189 Vine Street Carew Bldg. No. 60 Cincinnati Any possibilities I could determine any info. about this pic with the addys above? Thank You so much, Cece in Georgia

Re: Pedigree Resource File: If you look at about the middle of each entry you open in the Pedigree Resource File, there's a little section that says "Notes: Sources:" If there are none, the word "None" appears there. If you're looking for these, then going to the trouble to look up those discs isn't going to be worth the time. Also, bearing in mind that there are now well over 100 discs in the File, if your contact information (name and address of submitter) is on a disc numbered 1- 75 or so, the odds that it's old are better than if it's on a more recent disc. I hope this helps you decide whether to look up a disc or not. Linda in Utah -------------- Original message -------------- From: [email protected] > All; > > I just came back from an annual research trip to the FAmily History Library > in SAlt Lake City. > > One of the things I was looking for is very much like this entry submitted > for PHILLIPS/PENDERY. > > The Compact Discs are available, as far as I know, only at FAmily History > Centers. However-- I did not find any sort of original documentation on the > one I looked at. Only the usual family group information submitted by > someone (see "submitter" on the previous message). > > There are, however, some notes that go along with the Family Group sheet > information and in that case there was an e-mail address along with some > information about where the submitter found data. So, Martha, if you feel > there > might be some pertinent info, you need to look into viewing CD#93 > > Best wishes, > > Ann Bergelt > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002 > 5 > 48) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/ > mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

My male friend, whose name is Artie, says that a female name abbreviated Artie might be Ardith. It also sounds enough like Artie that the abbreviated name spoken "Ardi", might be mistaken for Artie. Of course, that wouldn't apply when it's written down! LOL Linda in Utah -------------- Original message -------------- From: "MFederle" <[email protected]> > No, in this case it was Artie, and her granddaughter (my aunt) was also > named Artie. I have seen the name in other records as well. > > Martha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karla Nurnberg" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] CIVIL WAR ORPHANS > > > > Hi, > > I was thinking that perhaps this young girl's name might have been > > Artesia or Anastasia? > > Karla > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > > now. > > > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/ > mb.ashx > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/ > mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I remember a couple of years ago before I knew her maiden name was Phillips, that I did a search on Ancestry for just the first name, "Artie". I was surprised that several people popped up, in different areas of the country. So it isn't completely off the wall. I'm reading a book right now written from the perspective of a woman named Arty who would have been in her mid-late 20's when the civil war started - she lived in the mtns of western North Carolina, and it is a true story as told by her descendant. I imgine there are other spellings as well. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] CIVIL WAR ORPHANS > My male friend, whose name is Artie, says that a female name abbreviated > Artie might be Ardith. It also sounds enough like Artie that the > abbreviated name spoken "Ardi", might be mistaken for Artie. Of course, > that wouldn't apply when it's written down! LOL > Linda in Utah > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "MFederle" <[email protected]> > >> No, in this case it was Artie, and her granddaughter (my aunt) was also >> named Artie. I have seen the name in other records as well. >> >> Martha >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karla Nurnberg" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:23 PM >> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] CIVIL WAR ORPHANS >> >> >> > Hi, >> > I was thinking that perhaps this young girl's name might have been >> > Artesia or Anastasia? >> > Karla >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try >> > it >> > now. >> > >> > >> > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] >> > >> > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> > >> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> > >> > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> > >> > >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/ >> mb.ashx >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: >> >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ >> >> Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/ >> mb.ashx >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, in this case it was Artie, and her granddaughter (my aunt) was also named Artie. I have seen the name in other records as well. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karla Nurnberg" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] CIVIL WAR ORPHANS > Hi, > I was thinking that perhaps this young girl's name might have been > Artesia or Anastasia? > Karla > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Deborah, When I said I had family members interred there -- I should have explained a little further. What I meant by interred was, their cremated remains are interred in urns in little niches behind glass with a brass plate on the front of the niche giving name and dates. There are little bud vases that can be clipped onto the front of the niche that will hold one or two individual flowers. Hillside Chapel isn't a cemetery -- so there are no burials. It's a series of small to moderate size rooms with lovely stained glass or frosted windows, little water fountains in the center of some of the rooms have the quiet sound of trickling water and there are benches in each room. The last time I was there they also had large bird cages in the center of some rooms (from floor to ceiling and probably 3 to 4 feet in diameter with lovely song birds, A very peaceful and beautiful place. The also have a lovely chapel there for services. It's been many years since I visited there so I don't know if it's still the same. Marilyn --------------------original message----------------------- In a message dated 2/5/2008 3:45:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello List Members and Marilyn, Marilyn, seems like I read where you said that some of your relatives are buried at: HILLSIDE CHAPEL 525 Martin Luther King Drive, Cincinnati. (also location of the Cincinnati Cremation Co.). Is Hillside Chapel a cemetery? That sounds sooooo dumb. I mean, if you have relatives buried there it must be a cemetery; but I can't find any references to it on all the cemetery lists. Also, does anyone have a photo of Hillside Chapel that you could scan to me? Thanks, Deborah **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

I have ordered a number of discs from FHL in the past, but have been disappointed that there is no backup information at all. Maybe for some people, but I sure haven't had any luck. So I don't think I will order any more unless I'm desperate! I've also written to numerous "submitters" with very little response. I have discs 111-115, plus 132. I think I could do a lookup for anyone needing these discs, although each time I use them it's like learning all over again. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Phililps/Pendry > All; > > I just came back from an annual research trip to the FAmily History > Library > in SAlt Lake City. > > One of the things I was looking for is very much like this entry submitted > for PHILLIPS/PENDERY. > > The Compact Discs are available, as far as I know, only at FAmily History > Centers. However-- I did not find any sort of original documentation > on the > one I looked at. Only the usual family group information submitted by > someone (see "submitter" on the previous message). > > There are, however, some notes that go along with the Family Group sheet > information and in that case there was an e-mail address along with some > information about where the submitter found data. So, Martha, if you feel > there > might be some pertinent info, you need to look into viewing CD#93 > > Best wishes, > > Ann Bergelt > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this information. I've done a bit of further searching and found other Phillips families, but I sure can't figure it out, as yet. I also checked out all the Pendery's at Spring Grove, but don't find anything on Phillips. This gives me something to look for and I appreciate your trouble. Artie is the name as I've always known it - not short for anything. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:51 AM Subject: [OHHAMILT] Phililps/Pendry > Since you mentioned the Pendrey name I located this. It doesn't make > sense to me but maybe to you it does.

All; I just came back from an annual research trip to the FAmily History Library in SAlt Lake City. One of the things I was looking for is very much like this entry submitted for PHILLIPS/PENDERY. The Compact Discs are available, as far as I know, only at FAmily History Centers. However-- I did not find any sort of original documentation on the one I looked at. Only the usual family group information submitted by someone (see "submitter" on the previous message). There are, however, some notes that go along with the Family Group sheet information and in that case there was an e-mail address along with some information about where the submitter found data. So, Martha, if you feel there might be some pertinent info, you need to look into viewing CD#93 Best wishes, Ann Bergelt **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Hi, I was thinking that perhaps this young girl's name might have been Artesia or Anastasia? Karla --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

Since you mentioned the Pendrey name I located this. It doesn't make sense to me but maybe to you it does. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Arthur M. PHILLIPS Compact Disc #93 Pin #427833 Pedigree Sex: M ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Event(s) Birth: 5 May 1874 Cincinnati, Hamilton Co., OH ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Parents ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Marriage(s) Spouse: Laura Bell PENDERY Disc #93 Pin #427832 Marriage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Notes and Sources Notes: None Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 93 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Submitter Dee Feris SELF 6211 Craigway Rd. Spring, TX 77389 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Submission Search: 22820-0706104114614 URL: http://dee.feris.com/ CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #93 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS Lindsey ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

What could Artie be short for? Or is it not a shortened name? Lindsey -----Original Message----- From: MFederle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:36 am Subject: [OHHAMILT] Civil War Orphans My great grandmother, Artie Phillips, was born in 1862 (according to tombstone). In the 1870 census she is living with what looks to be an unrelated family (Walden). There is also a census listing for a boy who might be her twin, and who is living with a different and probably unrelated family (Pendrey). The post office for both is Sedamsville. There is a record of both children being baptised in the Presbyterian Church, although I'm embarassed to say I can't find the record at the moment, but I believe it was in 1867. Since this was shortly after the end of the civil war, I am wondering if they were casualties of that event, and if so, what type of records might have been kept for placing children in foster homes. Since they were both baptised in the same church at the same time, and since that was after the end of the war, I really think they were twins. I have been unable to find either of them in 1880, and I don't know whatever happened to Henry. Thanks for any input. Martha Federle To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com