Barbara, I researched this some years ago, finding my one GGG grandfather and a grandson of his died from cholera in 1848. The cholera epidemic spread in Cincinnati in 1848 and 1849, mainly in the warm summer months. Over 14,000 people in Cincinnati died of this disease in those two years, nearly 10 percent of the population. Many victims' bodies were taken by horse and wagon to St. Joseph Catholic Cemetery on west 8th St. for burial on the north side plot. Sad to say these same wagons were used on return trips to the city for hauling fruits and vegetables from the farmers to town, spreading this disease. Dr. Daniel Drake of Cincinnati found links between sewage contaminated well water and the Canal water used for cooking, drinking, and bathing and the cholera bug. Bob Niehaus

Can someone give me the dates of the cholera epidemic?? Barbara H. Ward in Indiana descendant of Osborns and McKees in Cincinnati (1780's - 1850) ____________________________________________________________ Fabulous Spa Getaway! Enter for your chance to WIN great beauty prizes everyday! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UrpkykUMlqHJH63ak5Z5DKsj9wk2RBBQIgqnecegU5cjp0/

Concerning Wesleyan, actually I would be the person you would write to. An email link is on the Wesleyan site (2nd link below). The links I sent to you were for Wesleyan information, not a work by those with the Wesleyan site (1st link below). Spring Grove: I assume their records on line are complete. You would have to ask them on that one. Wesleyan helped Spring Grove get started, per info I've gathered in working on the Wesleyan site. I also have been told that some early cemeteries had been bulldozed, 'headstones over and down the hill', a fact of long ago but in bulldozer time. I can only ASSUME the remains of the burials were totally disintegrated (early wood coffins). In another county, I have an early family member under a school now with the headstone at a newer cemetery. The Health Dept / Sanitation Dept: I have no idea on that. Hopefully someone else on this list knows. Keep in mind that the further back in time you go, laws and the ways of doing things change. Records kept are really up to the cemetery. The earliest cemeteries would have no paper work unless maybe found in an early church record, if those can be found. The headstones are all one can go by and we all know that thru the years, vandals and those wanting large stones for their property destroyed/took many. Also, keep in mind that ALL cemeteries (even those of today) really only care about a name, where buried and if paid for. All else is gravy and what exists in records is due to the caring of the cemetery &/or office policy &/or loss thru the years. Donna -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] OHHAMILT Digest, Vol 3, Issue 145 Donna: Thank you! Are the online records for Spring Grove not neccessarily complete? I'll write to them. I've noticed quite a few of the people were moved from Catherine St., etc. that are listed there. I had also read mention of a "Health Department" in Cincinnati having kept epidemic lists. In fact, that's how I found one of my ancestors in Marietta in 1821/2, from their lists. Was this Health Department the precursor for the Sanitation Department I've read about that operated during and after the Civil War? Has anyone published these lists to your knowledge? In a message dated 6/24/2008 3:04:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:18:24 -0400 From: "Donna \(History Buff\) M. St. Felix" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Cincinnati early burials and cholera epidemic records? To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" It is my understanding that the earliest Cincy cemeteries are gone. Wesleyan is pre Spring Grove but they (Wesleyan) has had burials from some (not all) earlier cemetery / burial locations moved in there. Spring Grove may have also but you'll have to check with them on that. Following is a link to ftp files for Wesleyan which may NOT be error free. http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/hamilton/cemeteries/wesleyan/ A site for Wesleyan done by volunteers and a work still in progress: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohhamcem/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHHAMILT] Cincinnati early burials and cholera epidemic records? My ancestor John Williamson who was a very early resident of Cincinnati (since 1803), on Water near what is now the Suspension Bridge. He probably died during the cholera epidemic (Between the 1830 City Directory publishing/1830 census and his Will Inventory dated Nov. 22, 1831 witness: Isaac G. Burnet). He was a cabinetmaker, as were his sons John, Daniel, Charles and William. Are there any lists of victims available, and where could he have been buried? I'm not finding him in any index. He was probably of German descent. Thanks so much for any ideas! Kimberly No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM

I received a copy from St. Peter in Chains Catholic Church and all it had was the date the names of the bride & groom and who performed the ceremony. JoAnn -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of bob Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 6:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's The marriage records I have found from the 1800's have very little information on them. Basically, the couple's names, they were at least either 21 (groom) or 18 (bride) on their last birthday, the date of marriage and who performed the ceremony. It wasn't until the early 1900's, maybe after 1920, that you started getting more information.....parents' names, place of birth, actual age at the time of marriage, residence, occupation, if there was a previous marriage and any children from that marriage. If they were married in a church, you might try that specific church's records, and if it was a Catholic church, you might even try the Archdiocese of Cincinnati. Good luck Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's > > Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn! > > Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy of the > original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost? > > Best regards, > Diana > > In a message dated 6/21/2008 10:27:09 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > In a message dated 6/21/2008 11:36:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks so much for that link Marilyn. I found several couples of > interest. > Would the original marriage certificate at the courthouse have more > information > on the couple such as parent's names? > > > > -------------------------- > Hi Ken, > > I'm glad you were able to find some couples that may be part of your > family. > I can't really say if the marriage certificate would have the parent's > names. The certificates I have don't give parent's names, but other > researchers > I've talked to, said the parent's names were given on "their" > certificates. > > I think it all depends on who was filling out the certificate and what > questions they were or were not asking and what year the couple were > getting > married. > > Would another subscriber on this list who got marriage certificates from > Hamilton County be able to offer an opinion? > > I'm sorry I wasn't more help, > Marilyn > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamil to > n/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamil ton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamil ton/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Donna: Thank you! Are the online records for Spring Grove not neccessarily complete? I'll write to them. I've noticed quite a few of the people were moved from Catherine St., etc. that are listed there. I had also read mention of a "Health Department" in Cincinnati having kept epidemic lists. In fact, that's how I found one of my ancestors in Marietta in 1821/2, from their lists. Was this Health Department the precursor for the Sanitation Department I've read about that operated during and after the Civil War? Has anyone published these lists to your knowledge? In a message dated 6/24/2008 3:04:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cincinnati early burials and cholera epidemic records? (Donna (History Buff) M. St. Felix) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:18:24 -0400 From: "Donna \(History Buff\) M. St. Felix" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Cincinnati early burials and cholera epidemic records? To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" It is my understanding that the earliest Cincy cemeteries are gone. Wesleyan is pre Spring Grove but they (Wesleyan) has had burials from some (not all) earlier cemetery / burial locations moved in there. Spring Grove may have also but you'll have to check with them on that. Following is a link to ftp files for Wesleyan which may NOT be error free. http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/hamilton/cemeteries/wesleyan/ A site for Wesleyan done by volunteers and a work still in progress: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohhamcem/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHHAMILT] Cincinnati early burials and cholera epidemic records? My ancestor John Williamson who was a very early resident of Cincinnati (since 1803), on Water near what is now the Suspension Bridge. He probably died during the cholera epidemic (Between the 1830 City Directory publishing/1830 census and his Will Inventory dated Nov. 22, 1831 witness: Isaac G. Burnet). He was a cabinetmaker, as were his sons John, Daniel, Charles and William. Are there any lists of victims available, and where could he have been buried? I'm not finding him in any index. He was probably of German descent. Thanks so much for any ideas! Kimberly No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM ------------------------------ To contact the OHHAMILT list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the OHHAMILT mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of OHHAMILT Digest, Vol 3, Issue 145 **************************************** **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

It is my understanding that the earliest Cincy cemeteries are gone. Wesleyan is pre Spring Grove but they (Wesleyan) has had burials from some (not all) earlier cemetery / burial locations moved in there. Spring Grove may have also but you'll have to check with them on that. Following is a link to ftp files for Wesleyan which may NOT be error free. http://files.usgwarchives.org/oh/hamilton/cemeteries/wesleyan/ A site for Wesleyan done by volunteers and a work still in progress: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohhamcem/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [OHHAMILT] Cincinnati early burials and cholera epidemic records? My ancestor John Williamson who was a very early resident of Cincinnati (since 1803), on Water near what is now the Suspension Bridge. He probably died during the cholera epidemic (Between the 1830 City Directory publishing/1830 census and his Will Inventory dated Nov. 22, 1831 witness: Isaac G. Burnet). He was a cabinetmaker, as were his sons John, Daniel, Charles and William. Are there any lists of victims available, and where could he have been buried? I'm not finding him in any index. He was probably of German descent. Thanks so much for any ideas! Kimberly No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1513 - Release Date: 6/22/2008 7:52 AM

There was a courthouse fire in 1884 where many of the marriage records were lost. There are reconstructed marriage records that were taken from a variety of sources in an attempt to replace those burned. They came from newspapers, church records and other court documents. There is a chance that not all records were restored. To order any restored records you could write to : Hamilton County Probate Court William Howard Taft Center Records Department Ninth Floor 230 E. Ninth Street Cincinnati, Ohio 45202-2145 Their phone number is (513) 946-3551. You'll need to send an SASE, but do not send money at the time of the request, they'll inform you of the cost. There are abstracts in book form which I can look in if you have a specific name. These do not include names of parents (and at this time period, originals normally did not either). The key may be to figure out which church they attended. What religion were they? If they were Protestant their children's baptisms may be in a set titled "Selected Hamilton County, Ohio, church baptism records". If you do not live in the Cincinnati area and are able to narrow it down to which church (or two or three) they possibly attended, you may want to hire a researcher to look through those for a marriage entry. Sometimes church entries do list more information than just date and the parties involved, but I would say it's a 50/50 chance. If your ancestors were Catholic, you can contact the Archdiocese of Cincinnati and they can conduct a paid search for you. Since they charge by the hour you may want to narrow down addresses they lived at after their marriage to help the archivist narrow down the potential parish of marriage. You can now search and view old Cincinnati city directories online at http://virtuallibrary.cincinnatilibrary.org/virtuallibrary/vl_CityDir.aspx. I hope this helps. LeeAnn Cincinnati> From: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:03:49 -0400> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's> > In a message dated 6/23/2008 1:10:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes:> Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn!> > Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy of the > original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost?> > Best regards,> Diana> > ----------------------------> > Diana, > > A friend of mine picked mine up at the Hamilton Co. Probate Court, > > Hamilton County Probate Court> 230 E. 9th> William Howard Taft Center> Cincinnati, OH 45202> 513-946-3600 > Marriage License: (513) 946-3589> > but I think she searched the records herself and made a copy so I can't > remember if she was charged a fee.> > But according to _www.vitalrec.com_ (http://www.vitalrec.com) , there's a > $2.00 charge;> > _http://www.vitalrec.com/ohcounties6.html#Hamilton_ > (http://www.vitalrec.com/ohcounties6.html#Hamilton) > > You might want to contact the probate court to get information about what > type of payment they will > accept.> > Good Luck,> Marilyn> > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)> > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected]> > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here:> > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/> > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County:> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

She would have had to have a parent or guardian sign for her. On Jun 23, 2008, at 8:39 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > What if the bride was 15 years old and married in 1838? Either she > had to > have lied or someone would have to give consent? > > Best regards, > Diana > > In a message dated 6/23/2008 6:27:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > The marriage records I have found from the 1800's have very little > information on them. Basically, the couple's names, they were at > least > either 21 (groom) or 18 (bride) on their last birthday, the date of > marriage > and who performed the ceremony. It wasn't until the early 1900's, > maybe > after 1920, that you started getting more information.....parents' > names, > place of birth, actual age at the time of marriage, residence, > occupation, > if there was a previous marriage and any children from that marriage. > If they were married in a church, you might try that specific > church's > records, and if it was a Catholic church, you might even try the > Archdiocese > of Cincinnati. > > Good luck > > Bob > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's > > >> >> Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn! >> >> Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy >> of the >> original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost? >> >> Best regards, >> Diana >> >> In a message dated 6/21/2008 10:27:09 AM Mountain Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> >> In a message dated 6/21/2008 11:36:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [email protected] writes: >> >> Thanks so much for that link Marilyn. I found several couples of >> interest. >> Would the original marriage certificate at the courthouse have more >> information >> on the couple such as parent's names? >> >> >> >> -------------------------- >> Hi Ken, >> >> I'm glad you were able to find some couples that may be part of your >> family. >> I can't really say if the marriage certificate would have the >> parent's >> names. The certificates I have don't give parent's names, but >> other >> researchers >> I've talked to, said the parent's names were given on "their" >> certificates. >> >> I think it all depends on who was filling out the certificate >> and what >> questions they were or were not asking and what year the couple >> were >> getting >> married. >> >> Would another subscriber on this list who got marriage >> certificates from >> Hamilton County be able to offer an opinion? >> >> I'm sorry I wasn't more help, >> Marilyn > > > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007 > ) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

What if the bride was 15 years old and married in 1838? Either she had to have lied or someone would have to give consent? Best regards, Diana In a message dated 6/23/2008 6:27:05 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The marriage records I have found from the 1800's have very little information on them. Basically, the couple's names, they were at least either 21 (groom) or 18 (bride) on their last birthday, the date of marriage and who performed the ceremony. It wasn't until the early 1900's, maybe after 1920, that you started getting more information.....parents' names, place of birth, actual age at the time of marriage, residence, occupation, if there was a previous marriage and any children from that marriage. If they were married in a church, you might try that specific church's records, and if it was a Catholic church, you might even try the Archdiocese of Cincinnati. Good luck Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's > > Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn! > > Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy of the > original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost? > > Best regards, > Diana > > In a message dated 6/21/2008 10:27:09 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > In a message dated 6/21/2008 11:36:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks so much for that link Marilyn. I found several couples of > interest. > Would the original marriage certificate at the courthouse have more > information > on the couple such as parent's names? > > > > -------------------------- > Hi Ken, > > I'm glad you were able to find some couples that may be part of your > family. > I can't really say if the marriage certificate would have the parent's > names. The certificates I have don't give parent's names, but other > researchers > I've talked to, said the parent's names were given on "their" > certificates. > > I think it all depends on who was filling out the certificate and what > questions they were or were not asking and what year the couple were > getting > married. > > Would another subscriber on this list who got marriage certificates from > Hamilton County be able to offer an opinion? > > I'm sorry I wasn't more help, > Marilyn **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

The marriage records I have found from the 1800's have very little information on them. Basically, the couple's names, they were at least either 21 (groom) or 18 (bride) on their last birthday, the date of marriage and who performed the ceremony. It wasn't until the early 1900's, maybe after 1920, that you started getting more information.....parents' names, place of birth, actual age at the time of marriage, residence, occupation, if there was a previous marriage and any children from that marriage. If they were married in a church, you might try that specific church's records, and if it was a Catholic church, you might even try the Archdiocese of Cincinnati. Good luck Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's > > Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn! > > Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy of the > original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost? > > Best regards, > Diana > > In a message dated 6/21/2008 10:27:09 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > In a message dated 6/21/2008 11:36:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Thanks so much for that link Marilyn. I found several couples of > interest. > Would the original marriage certificate at the courthouse have more > information > on the couple such as parent's names? > > > > -------------------------- > Hi Ken, > > I'm glad you were able to find some couples that may be part of your > family. > I can't really say if the marriage certificate would have the parent's > names. The certificates I have don't give parent's names, but other > researchers > I've talked to, said the parent's names were given on "their" > certificates. > > I think it all depends on who was filling out the certificate and what > questions they were or were not asking and what year the couple were > getting > married. > > Would another subscriber on this list who got marriage certificates from > Hamilton County be able to offer an opinion? > > I'm sorry I wasn't more help, > Marilyn > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilto > n/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the > body of the message > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > > To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > > Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > > Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 6/23/2008 1:10:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn! Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy of the original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost? Best regards, Diana ---------------------------- Diana, A friend of mine picked mine up at the Hamilton Co. Probate Court, Hamilton County Probate Court 230 E. 9th William Howard Taft Center Cincinnati, OH 45202 513-946-3600 Marriage License: (513) 946-3589 but I think she searched the records herself and made a copy so I can't remember if she was charged a fee. But according to _www.vitalrec.com_ (http://www.vitalrec.com) , there's a $2.00 charge; _http://www.vitalrec.com/ohcounties6.html#Hamilton_ (http://www.vitalrec.com/ohcounties6.html#Hamilton) You might want to contact the probate court to get information about what type of payment they will accept. Good Luck, Marilyn **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

I am doing research on a ALBERT CASSIDY. He would have married twice in Oh I THINK. First wife is unknown? Second wife is IDA BELLE HUGHS/HEGHES. I AM LOOKING FOR THESE 2 MARRIAGE. Albert Cassidy son of Joseph was born 1866 in Oh. Linda

Thanks so much for the reply, Marilyn! Another question if I might ask? Where do you write to get a copy of the original marriage certificate? And how much do they cost? Best regards, Diana In a message dated 6/21/2008 10:27:09 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: In a message dated 6/21/2008 11:36:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Thanks so much for that link Marilyn. I found several couples of interest. Would the original marriage certificate at the courthouse have more information on the couple such as parent's names? -------------------------- Hi Ken, I'm glad you were able to find some couples that may be part of your family. I can't really say if the marriage certificate would have the parent's names. The certificates I have don't give parent's names, but other researchers I've talked to, said the parent's names were given on "their" certificates. I think it all depends on who was filling out the certificate and what questions they were or were not asking and what year the couple were getting married. Would another subscriber on this list who got marriage certificates from Hamilton County be able to offer an opinion? I'm sorry I wasn't more help, Marilyn **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilto n/mb.ashx ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

I would think it would be the same type of court that would handle divorces today. But, pre-1889 maybe everything went thru one court. I really don't know for that time frame. Also, would she for sure have been in Hamilton Co for a divorce from hubby #1? Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Evelyn F. Lehman Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 8:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's Hi Donna, Thank you for taking the time to reply. I tend to agree that the (D) does mean divorced. Even though divorce was not so common at that time, it did happen. Would you have any idea as to which agency would have that record. Her second marriage was in 1889. Appreciate your help. God Bless. Evelyn in AR At 03:08 PM 6/21/2008, you wrote: >Probably 'D' for DIVORCED. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Evelyn F. Lehman >Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:29 PM >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's > > >Hi, > >I have a copy of the certificate for my grand grandmother's second >marriage. Her name is given with her maiden name NOT her married first >surname. A little bit over from this maiden surname, in >parenthesis, is the letter : (D). Can anyone explain this? I have >no idea if my gr. grandfather had died or if this (D) indicates a >divorce. Since they were Irish Catholic divorce would be unusual but >not impossible. The marriage year was 1872. > >Any info or ideas about this would be appreciated. Thank you. God >Bless. > >Evelyn in AR No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 6/20/2008 11:52 AM

Hi Donna, Thank you for taking the time to reply. I tend to agree that the (D) does mean divorced. Even though divorce was not so common at that time, it did happen. Would you have any idea as to which agency would have that record. Her second marriage was in 1889. Appreciate your help. God Bless. Evelyn in AR At 03:08 PM 6/21/2008, you wrote: >Probably 'D' for DIVORCED. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Evelyn F. Lehman >Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:29 PM >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's > > >Hi, > >I have a copy of the certificate for my grand grandmother's second >marriage. Her name is given with her maiden name NOT her married >first surname. A little bit over from this maiden surname, in >parenthesis, is the letter : (D). Can anyone explain this? I have >no idea if my gr. grandfather had died or if this (D) indicates a >divorce. Since they were Irish Catholic divorce would be unusual but >not impossible. The marriage year was 1872. > >Any info or ideas about this would be appreciated. Thank you. God Bless. > >Evelyn in AR > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 6/20/2008 >11:52 AM > > > > >To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > >Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > >Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1512 - Release Date: >6/21/2008 9:27 AM

Phyllis, If you www.google.com Lane Seminary, there are several interesting articles about it's establishment and history. I remember hearing about it being demolished when I was a child. Since it was sponsored by the Presbyterian Church, perhaps the Cincinnati Presbytery would be able to give you information: http://www.presbyteryofcincinnati.org/ www.presbyteryofcincinnati.org/ResourceCenter/Documents.htm Marilyn -----------------------original message--------------------------------- In a message dated 6/21/2008 4:53:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I have contacted Don Heinrich Tolzmann (indirectly through one of his good friends) and I have spoken with Blegen Library in Cincinnati as well as the Cincinnati Historical Society. No one seems to know anything about these schools. I did find this little bit online: ".Philipp Hauser, and . Julius Weyse (or Weise), who taught from 1836 to 1839 at a school for German emigrant children sponsored by the Presbyterian Lane Seminary." Has anyone else run across information about the German Emigrant (Immigrant) School? Phyllis **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Probably 'D' for DIVORCED. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Evelyn F. Lehman Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:29 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHHAMILT] Hamilton Co. marriage records for 1800's Hi, I have a copy of the certificate for my grand grandmother's second marriage. Her name is given with her maiden name NOT her married first surname. A little bit over from this maiden surname, in parenthesis, is the letter : (D). Can anyone explain this? I have no idea if my gr. grandfather had died or if this (D) indicates a divorce. Since they were Irish Catholic divorce would be unusual but not impossible. The marriage year was 1872. Any info or ideas about this would be appreciated. Thank you. God Bless. Evelyn in AR No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1511 - Release Date: 6/20/2008 11:52 AM

Thanks Marilyn! I don't see anything prior to 1840 on those links and no mention of the German Emigrant School, so I will call them Monday. Phyllis -----Original Message----- Since it was sponsored by the Presbyterian Church, perhaps the Cincinnati Presbytery would be able to give you information: http://www.presbyteryofcincinnati.org/ www.presbyteryofcincinnati.org/ResourceCenter/Documents.htm

Hi, I have a copy of the certificate for my grand grandmother's second marriage. Her name is given with her maiden name NOT her married first surname. A little bit over from this maiden surname, in parenthesis, is the letter : (D). Can anyone explain this? I have no idea if my gr. grandfather had died or if this (D) indicates a divorce. Since they were Irish Catholic divorce would be unusual but not impossible. The marriage year was 1872. Any info or ideas about this would be appreciated. Thank you. God Bless. Evelyn in AR At 03:21 PM 6/20/2008, [email protected] wrote: >In a message dated 6/20/2008 12:42:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >Ma[email protected] writes: >Can anyone tell me if and where any marriage records for the period around >1877-1879 may be kept. And how they can be checked. Thanks, Ken Lewis > >-------------------------------------- >Ken, > >Here's the URL for the Hamilton County Marriage Index. > >http://www.hcgsdata.org/marriage.shtml > >Be sure to read the directions so you'll know how to interpret the results >if you should find your couple. > >Marilyn > > > > >**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for >fuel-efficient used >cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > >To contact the List Administrator, send an email to: [email protected] > >Did you miss a message? You can find it in the list's archives here: > >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/OHHAMILT/ > >Don't forget--there is also a message board for Hamilton County: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.hamilton/mb.ashx > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1510 - Release Date: >6/19/2008 3:21 PM

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