I'm trying to locate my wife's roots. Her grandmother was DORIS COMBS 21 Jul 1922 - Nov 1995 286-24-1186 and her Great-Grandmother was: FLORENCE FERRYMAN 27 Nov 1891 - Nov 1984 281-40-4680 Her Grandfather was: THEODORE CHARLES 14 Nov 1918 - 26 Dec 2000 269-18-6894 Can anyone help me find more information on them? IE, their parents, etc. Rick Rhodes ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: OHGREENE-D Digest V01 #100

Thanks Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [OHGREENE-L] TEACH, WHITTINGTON, CLARK, CHENOWETH, DUNCAN families > In a message dated 05/26/2001 10:14:54 AM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > I am searching for the TEACH, WHITTINGTON, CHENOWETH, CLARK, and DUNCAN > > families of Greene County: > > > > I am a Chenoweth descendant ... from the Darke County branch. I trust you > have seen the website > http://chenowethsite.com/chenweth.htm > which contains more Chenoweth information than I know how to handle. > > Have fun ! > > DICK FOLKERTH > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Miami Twp. is one of the northern border twps and borders Clark Co. And the twp in Clark Co. that is bordering it is Green. Confusing yes! The two towns of the era were Clifton and Yellow Springs. The Census of 1860 should show your Martin is your looking at the right roll. I checked the index in my 1896 atlas and it indicated that the last twp was formed in 1858 so by 1860 boundary lines was pretty well set. The Library is closed, but if they looked for you then you must regroup and look again. Did he own land? Was he a farmer? There is an atlas for 1868 that they could check for you for a farm. Linda Swaney Sabin

Hi Folks, Hope you all had a nice fourth. Doesn't the 1860 census show all family members and not just heads of household? I have been chasing E.B. Martin for a long time and supposedly there is an E.B. Martin on the 1860 census on page 519 Miami Township for Greene County. Seems no one can find him in Greene County as I paid someone there to look in the Greene Room. I was born in Springfield but I don't know where Miami Twp is in Green Co. Now the above listing for him would be this Greene County or did the boundaries change? But then if that happened would it be listed as it was on a Federal Census Index?? Thanks Tootsie Shoemaker

Thank you everyone for the imput on census records. I thought going to the NARA would be helpful and it was in some cases, but in others, I just have more questions. Sure wish I could find that Anthony Miller m. to Suzanne Eckman. cbj ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [OHGREENE-L] MILLERS AND ECKMANS > Could I join this discussion about names and listing them for the census > takers? I found Harvey Downey and his mother in 1860 by looking for his > sister Rebecca Downey. The mother was remarried and all were living on the > same farm as with first husband but listed under the new name McIntosh. > Harvey was listed Downey, but not Harvey - the H was blurry and unreadable. I > never would have found it if I hadn't gone after Rebecca. Harvey disappear > again so in 1870 Census, I looked at McIntosh and thank God they changed the > Census so we can look at the actual names, because there was Harvey, his new > wife and baby all listed as McIntosh under the stepfather's name. So, it is a > challenge!!! And I love the hunt. Linda Swaney Sabin > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Hello, Hope i can get a look up for a marriage for a Louisa Smith to whomever ( maybe a Boring) between 1855 and 1865 in Clinton Co Ohio. or any of other Counties. Need this very much. This Smith, Louisa was suposed to have gone to Clinton Co Oh. to live with an Uncle ?? on name, abt 1854 from Whitley Co Ind. May have married there. She was on 1850 census with John David Smith family wife Jane Slagle in Whitley Co Ind and was 11 yrs old. Also any Rooks there. Looking for a marriage for a Harrison Rooks who was enlisted in Union Army in 1861 in Clinton Co Oh. Need any imfo on him at all. Louisa Rooks marriage and descending family incl one dau., Ida H. Boring b 10 June 1874 Clinton Co Oh. I have extracted birth record, from Clinton Co Oh. birth/ christening records, parents Louisa Rooks & Joel Borinng. Also family on 1880 Greene Twp. Clinton Co Oh census. Also I have a mar cert. from Clinton Co Oh for Louisa Rooks to Joseph Boring 22 Feb 1860. also in Clinton Co. Oh. Harrison and Louisa Rooks were granchildren of William and Millie Mildred Murrell SMITHSON of Greene TWP Clinton Co Ohio until death of Wm in 1869. Their mother was dau of Wm and Millie, Mahala b abt 1814 in Clinton Co Oh and mar to Wiliam Rooks 18 Sep 1837 in Randolph Co Ind and moved to Grundy Co Mo abt 1839/40. where Mahala died abt 1855/6. Will appreciate any help on these problem area's. Have a bad delima . Some one it seems to have the two Louisa's mixed up or something. From a grt niece of Louisa Rooks. grt grandau of her sister Millie Maxine Rooks. Harrison is a brother of Louisa and Millie Maxine Rooks. Thanks for any and all hekp here. Maxine Wilton in Roy, Wa. [email protected]

Looking for relatives of Rev. David D. Johnson, a Baptist minister who lived in or around Jamestown, Ohio from the 1850s' until his death in 1916. He pastored several churchs in the Greene, Madison, Fayette counties. He is credited with marrying over 800 people and burying 1000 during his ministry. Davids daughters married into the McKillip and Ford families of the area. Thanks David Johnson Lima, Ohio

Could I join this discussion about names and listing them for the census takers? I found Harvey Downey and his mother in 1860 by looking for his sister Rebecca Downey. The mother was remarried and all were living on the same farm as with first husband but listed under the new name McIntosh. Harvey was listed Downey, but not Harvey - the H was blurry and unreadable. I never would have found it if I hadn't gone after Rebecca. Harvey disappear again so in 1870 Census, I looked at McIntosh and thank God they changed the Census so we can look at the actual names, because there was Harvey, his new wife and baby all listed as McIntosh under the stepfather's name. So, it is a challenge!!! And I love the hunt. Linda Swaney Sabin

This type of problem was discussed on another email group. It appears that some people may have given the names of *all* their children rather than listing just the children who were living in the household. Some census takers may not have asked children clearly or the person giving the information misunderstood the question. So, it is not terribly uncommon that grown children living elsewhere were listed as living in the household of their parents. ~Suz In a message dated 7/5/2001 9:09:00 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << That is what I have too. My dad gave me that info from stuff his cousin researched to get into the DAR, but if that is our ancestor, and then list of siblings I got with her are correct, then how could she and all those same siblings be listed in 1850 in her father's household. Noone has a married name, no grandchildren listed, and Anthony Miller and Suzanne Eckman were supposed to have children by then. Do you see my problem? Either that info is correct and then people on the census are not mine even though every name matches that given to me for Suzanne, or the info that she used to get into the DAR is not correct. >>

Good evening Deborah, I would be glad to help you as much as possible but I know next to nothing on the Steens. My GrGrGrandfather Was William Good as I mentioned before; Abigail as she was called at that period of time was his wife & they had several children. They left Xenia & moved to Allen County Ohio & from there to Paulding, County Ohio.. I have always been told she was originally from Indiana ( God knows where ). Several Census's indicated she was also. William Good dumped her for another woman in the early 1860's & moved to Illinois where he produced another family of several children which I am a bi- product of. The other woman was his & Sarah's Daughter-In-Law & she is my GrGrGrandmother. None of the other Good's apparently was able to find out this or prove it, which I can. From what I have been able to find William & Abigail remained married clear up to each of their deaths.. Williams Civil War pension records tells this quite heavily... Will wait for your reply! Terry > Hi Terry, I don't know, but I would be glad to work together with you. As I > had in my previous message, I keep finding the Carders, Steens, & Dobbins > families in Greene Co. intertwining with each other. Another interesting > thing I found is that the military unit my gggrandfather, John M. Carder was > in also have Moses Steen & one of the Dobbins on the same unit roster (71st > OVI) & they all enlisted about the same time. If I remember right, Moses > Steene enlisted on the same day as John Carder. What was Sarah's husband's > name? Deb > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry & Frances Good <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:09 AM > Subject: [OHGREENE-L] Carder > > > > Hi Deborah, My name is Terry R. Good I was > > reading your inquiry & Seen about the STEENS. > > My GrGR-Grandfather married a Sarah Abigail > > Steen in Xenia, Oh {Greene County} according > > to everything I've been able to put together > > so far. They were married April 29, 1841. They > > lived in Silver Creek for a spell I presume. William > > lived in Silver Creek in 1840. William was ------- > > William Good or Goode. Reading your query I > > wonder if she was something to the Steens you > > were talking about?? > > > > Terry R. Good > > > > > > From: "Deborah Carder" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 02:51 PM > > Subject: [OHGREENE-L] Carder > > > > > > > Still seeking information on family of John Malin Carder(Carter). John > was > > born in Clarksburg, Harrison Co., Va., now W. Va. in Oct. 1822 Have been > > unable to find out who is father was & this drives me crazy. On the 1850 > > Greene Co. census, his mother is listed as Elisabeth., age 47, born Va. > Our > > oral family history says that she ws a full-blooded Cherokee from North > > Carolina so I am not sure which is true, Va. or N.C. On the 1850 census is > > also listed 3 of John's siblings: Joseph, born about 1829 in Va., Stephen, > > born about 1838 in Ohio, Nancy A., born about 1842 in Ohio. This puts the > > family as moving to Ohio between the late 1820's & late 1830's. On this > > census is also John's second wife, Caroline Morris born about 1830 in Va. > & > > Amanda Morris, born about 1832 in Va. Amanda ws probably her sister. They > > lived in Xenia Township. John married 3 times in Xenia. First to > Elizabeth > > Steen in 1847, then to Caroline Morris in 1849. They both died young. He > > married Eliza Jane Dob! > > > bins in 1855 & they were married 56 years when he died. I have also > found > > in Xenia during the same time frame, an Adeline Carder who married Thomas > > Steen in 1847, a Susan Carder who married Moses Steen in 1848. Possibly > > Elizabeth Steen's brothers? I also have a Mary Ann Dobbins who lived in > > Xenia & was only 2 years younger than Eliza Jane. The Carder, Steen & > > Dobbins families seem to intertwine. I would like to find whatever I can > on > > them. John M. & Eliza (Dobbins) Carder moved to Hardin, then Logan Co. > Their > > children lived in these 2 counties as adults. My big questions are who > were > > John m. Carder & Eliza J. Dobbins' parents & siblings. I would appreciate > > anything anyone finds on Carder/Carter, Steen (Steene, Stein ), & Dobbins. > > Thanks. Deb Carder

That is what I have too. My dad gave me that info from stuff his cousin researched to get into the DAR, but if that is our ancestor, and then list of siblings I got with her are correct, then how could she and all those same siblings be listed in 1850 in her father's household. Noone has a married name, no grandchildren listed, and Anthony Miller and Suzanne Eckman were supposed to have children by then. Do you see my problem? Either that info is correct and then people on the census are not mine even though every name matches that given to me for Suzanne, or the info that she used to get into the DAR is not correct. Maybe the Suzanne who m. Anthony Miller is not Jacob III's daughter at all! I even have copies of photos that have been handed down through the family that are supposed to be Suzanne and Anthony Miller. The more I learn the more questions I have. I guess that is the name of the genealogy game. Thanks for your response. cbj

The Ohio Geo. Society has some sort of cemetery book, but someone else had better address that one. I am within the county of my burials and just need footpower and the index for those cemeteries to get there.

NO, they list her as white, but what I have studied on native Americans, is that many who married whites denied being Indian because the discrimination against them back them was sometimes very serious. They couldn't get jobs. Often, they would be killed just because they were Indian. Also, census takers made errors. I have nothing else on her to compare.Tell me about your Downeys. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [OHGREENE-L] Carder > Concerning Elisabeth Carder, Cherokee, NC or VA in 1850 Census. What did they > list as her color? Did the Census taker pick up on the Native American? I am > wondering because of other notations I have noticed in the Xenia records over > the years. We have a Downey family of African Americans in that period in > Xenia City with similar family names of ours. > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Well,I don't know these names - but that sure is a lot for coincidence: My Frank Pickering would grow up to marry a Snyder (Bertha H.); her father, William, was born in 1861 or '62 - close enough to be a sibling of your Frank. What's more, Bertha's maternal grandmother was born a Beal/Beale/Beall. Hmm. I may need to cogitate on this. KHP From: Robert Collins <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OHGREENE-L] Orphanages Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 12:38:32 -0400 I know of a Frank Snyder B abt 1870 M Rittie ?, they lived in Ross Co. and moved to differents town around that. They had several children Clay, Foster, Warren B 1906 , David ,Marion , Frank Jr. and two daughters Marie and Ruth. Also William G. Beal married Mary Admanda Bargdoll in 1860, they had these children Clara Jane, Joseph F. Mary A. & William H. Beal. Let me know if this helps and maybe we could trade information Thank you Kurt Pickering wrote: >Question, Listers: > >If a widower had to put a child in an orphanage in the Greene County, OH, >area in the late 1870s, where would that orphange most likely be? > >My great-great grandfather Joseph F. Pickering was widowed in Missouri in >1877, when his children ranged in age from 10 months to 5 years. He moved >back to Ohio, where his late wife was from and where it seems they both had >family and friends. Joseph is in the 1880 census in Caesor Creek Township >as a single blacksmith; the two older children, Margaret and Charles, are >in >it in other households. > >But I can't find hide nor hair of my great grandfather, John Franklin >Pickering, then 3 or 4. He comes of age in the area, marrying a Warren >County girl on a Greene County lincense in 1898 and appearing in censuses >in >Greene County, OH, in 1900 and 1910 and in Montgomery County in 1920. > >I'm wondering if, since he was still an infant when his mother died, he >ended up in an orphanage. God forbid it was back in Missouri (no offense, >Show-Me State, just trying to search manageable parameters), but assuming >he >came east with his brother, sister and father where might he have been? >Dayton? > >Researching these 8 greats: >Pickering-Snyder-Roach-Teegardin-Hodges-Evans-Kantner-Shifflet >+ these contributing Pickering/Snyder lines: >Orndorff-Kinsey-Beall >And, of course, many more! > >Peruse our entire GEDCOM at > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kpickering&I11.x=34&I11.y=8 > >ONWARD AND BACKWARD! >Kurt Pickering, IBSSG >La Vergne, TN _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi Linda, You are probably correct. I think that this family lived at Beavercreek. I will check my records, and really appreciate that. The family that I am researching is the Thornhill family--Mallory Thornhill, and wife Tompsy, also several sons and wives, and perhaps even daughters. If there is anything on line, or even a Cemetery Book that I could buy that would be wonderful. Thanks for the reply. Mary Ross On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 06:51:12 EDT [email protected] writes: > Are you sure it is Mt. Zion at Jamestown? We have Mt. Zion in > Beavercreek and > there is a Mt. Zion in Clark Co.? I am looking for a relative > Granville > Badgley who is supposed to be in Mt. Zion, Beavercreek but is not > there > according to the records so I am looking for another Mt. Zion. The > obit in > the papers might have the wrong town. Linda > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

Hi Linda, You are probably correct. I think that this family lived at Beavercreek. I will check my records, and really appreciate that. The family that I am researching is the Thornhill family--Mallory Thornhill, and wife Tompsy, also several sons and wives, and perhaps even daughters. If there is anything on line, or even a Cemetery Book that I could buy that would be wonderful. Thanks for the reply. Mary Ross On Thu, 5 Jul 2001 06:51:12 EDT [email protected] writes: > Are you sure it is Mt. Zion at Jamestown? We have Mt. Zion in > Beavercreek and > there is a Mt. Zion in Clark Co.? I am looking for a relative > Granville > Badgley who is supposed to be in Mt. Zion, Beavercreek but is not > there > according to the records so I am looking for another Mt. Zion. The > obit in > the papers might have the wrong town. Linda > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

Are you sure it is Mt. Zion at Jamestown? We have Mt. Zion in Beavercreek and there is a Mt. Zion in Clark Co.? I am looking for a relative Granville Badgley who is supposed to be in Mt. Zion, Beavercreek but is not there according to the records so I am looking for another Mt. Zion. The obit in the papers might have the wrong town. Linda

Concerning Elisabeth Carder, Cherokee, NC or VA in 1850 Census. What did they list as her color? Did the Census taker pick up on the Native American? I am wondering because of other notations I have noticed in the Xenia records over the years. We have a Downey family of African Americans in that period in Xenia City with similar family names of ours.

Hi Terry, I don't know, but I would be glad to work together with you. As I had in my previous message, I keep finding the Carders, Steens, & Dobbins families in Greene Co. intertwining with each other. Another interesting thing I found is that the military unit my gggrandfather, John M. Carder was in also have Moses Steen & one of the Dobbins on the same unit roster (71st OVI) & they all enlisted about the same time. If I remember right, Moses Steene enlisted on the same day as John Carder. What was Sarah's husband's name? Deb ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry & Frances Good <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 12:09 AM Subject: [OHGREENE-L] Carder > Hi Deborah, My name is Terry R. Good I was reading your inquiry & Seen > about the STEENS. My GrGR- > Grandfather married a Sarah Abigail Steen in Xenia > Oh, {Greene County} according to everything I've been able to put together > so far. They were married April 29, 1841. They lived in Silver Creek for a > spell I presume. William lived in Silver Creek in 1840. William was William > Good or Goode. Reading your query I wonder if she was something to the > Steens you were talking about?? > > Terry R. Good > > > From: "Deborah Carder" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 02:51 PM > Subject: [OHGREENE-L] Carder > > > > Still seeking information on family of John Malin Carder(Carter). John was > born in Clarksburg, Harrison Co., Va., now W. Va. in Oct. 1822 Have been > unable to find out who is father was & this drives me crazy. On the 1850 > Greene Co. census, his mother is listed as Elisabeth., age 47, born Va. Our > oral family history says that she ws a full-blooded Cherokee from North > Carolina so I am not sure which is true, Va. or N.C. On the 1850 census is > also listed 3 of John's siblings: Joseph, born about 1829 in Va., Stephen, > born about 1838 in Ohio, Nancy A., born about 1842 in Ohio. This puts the > family as moving to Ohio between the late 1820's & late 1830's. On this > census is also John's second wife, Caroline Morris born about 1830 in Va. & > Amanda Morris, born about 1832 in Va. Amanda ws probably her sister. They > lived in Xenia Township. John married 3 times in Xenia. First to Elizabeth > Steen in 1847, then to Caroline Morris in 1849. They both died young. He > married Eliza Jane Dob! > > bins in 1855 & they were married 56 years when he died. I have also found > in Xenia during the same time frame, an Adeline Carder who married Thomas > Steen in 1847, a Susan Carder who married Moses Steen in 1848. Possibly > Elizabeth Steen's brothers? I also have a Mary Ann Dobbins who lived in > Xenia & was only 2 years younger than Eliza Jane. The Carder, Steen & > Dobbins families seem to intertwine. I would like to find whatever I can on > them. John M. & Eliza (Dobbins) Carder moved to Hardin, then Logan Co. Their > children lived in these 2 counties as adults. My big questions are who were > John m. Carder & Eliza J. Dobbins' parents & siblings. I would appreciate > anything anyone finds on Carder/Carter, Steen (Steene, Stein ), & Dobbins. > Thanks. Deb Carder > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Hi Deborah, My name is Terry R. Good I was reading your inquiry & Seen about the STEENS. My GrGR- Grandfather married a Sarah Abigail Steen in Xenia Oh, {Greene County} according to everything I've been able to put together so far. They were married April 29, 1841. They lived in Silver Creek for a spell I presume. William lived in Silver Creek in 1840. William was William Good or Goode. Reading your query I wonder if she was something to the Steens you were talking about?? Terry R. Good From: "Deborah Carder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 02:51 PM Subject: [OHGREENE-L] Carder > Still seeking information on family of John Malin Carder(Carter). John was born in Clarksburg, Harrison Co., Va., now W. Va. in Oct. 1822 Have been unable to find out who is father was & this drives me crazy. On the 1850 Greene Co. census, his mother is listed as Elisabeth., age 47, born Va. Our oral family history says that she ws a full-blooded Cherokee from North Carolina so I am not sure which is true, Va. or N.C. On the 1850 census is also listed 3 of John's siblings: Joseph, born about 1829 in Va., Stephen, born about 1838 in Ohio, Nancy A., born about 1842 in Ohio. This puts the family as moving to Ohio between the late 1820's & late 1830's. On this census is also John's second wife, Caroline Morris born about 1830 in Va. & Amanda Morris, born about 1832 in Va. Amanda ws probably her sister. They lived in Xenia Township. John married 3 times in Xenia. First to Elizabeth Steen in 1847, then to Caroline Morris in 1849. They both died young. He married Eliza Jane Dob! > bins in 1855 & they were married 56 years when he died. I have also found in Xenia during the same time frame, an Adeline Carder who married Thomas Steen in 1847, a Susan Carder who married Moses Steen in 1848. Possibly Elizabeth Steen's brothers? I also have a Mary Ann Dobbins who lived in Xenia & was only 2 years younger than Eliza Jane. The Carder, Steen & Dobbins families seem to intertwine. I would like to find whatever I can on them. John M. & Eliza (Dobbins) Carder moved to Hardin, then Logan Co. Their children lived in these 2 counties as adults. My big questions are who were John m. Carder & Eliza J. Dobbins' parents & siblings. I would appreciate anything anyone finds on Carder/Carter, Steen (Steene, Stein ), & Dobbins. Thanks. Deb Carder > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >