If you have microsoft word, instead of just hitting the save button and naming the file as a .doc file, go to file at the top left corner, then save as, and at the bottom of the save screen will be a menu where you can choose to save in several different formats, RTF being one of them. I assume the other major word processors give a similar option. On the genealogy programs, when you generate a descendant or ancestor report, it will ask if you want to print or save, and usually give format options. Don Clark In a message dated 4/2/2005 10:43:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, trayne1837inc@yahoo.com writes: Ok, I know how to do TIF, but how do you save in RTF