I think free is relative. While they may have moved west to land that didn't have a cost in dollars....... the act of leaving extended family and settled communities and moving into the unknown.... is a cost in and of itself. They weren't moving to an area that was ready to farm or had living accommodations...... there was a lot of WORK involved in establishing a home and a working farm that would support them. While the land may have been free...... the other costs were huge. Yes, they were looking for a better life, but aren't we still doing that today.... just in different ways. SueEd --- On Mon, 6/23/08, Charlie Hazlett <charlie@hazlett.net> wrote: > Well, I think if we just stopped and > looked at > history in the face, the pioneer wasn't a thing in the > world but a guy > that wanted something for nothing." >

Monroe County in what is now West Virginia was located right on what is known as the Kanawha Trace where it enters West Virginia near Peterstown. This was the overland trail that settlers followed to get from southwest Virginia to Ohio. It follows along the banks of the New River to where it joins to form the Great Kanawha and then follows it to where it empties into the Ohio just opposite Gallipolis. Gallia County would have been the first Ohio stop. Neil E. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Well I hit send before I finished the message. I must be more tired than I thought so will quit for the day. :) dhodge8099@aol.com wrote: > Beth, > ??? Also people migrated to get a fresh start and various conservative religious groups may have motivated people to leave. > Debbie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Haney <bhaney@speakeasy.net> > To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 9:32 pm > Subject: [OHGALLIA] Apologies! > > > > My overly protective ISP's spam trap snagged several of the responses > people had posted to my question about migrations. I think the "answer" > to my question is that there is no particular reason, other than > possibly a desire for fresh land and joining family members that had > already moved into southeastern Ohio. At least now I know I didn't miss > anything of earth shattering importance. Thank you everybody! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Yeh, but these groups don't seem to fit that profile, either. I guess they just had a dhodge8099@aol.com wrote: > Beth, > ??? Also people migrated to get a fresh start and various conservative religious groups may have motivated people to leave. > Debbie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Haney <bhaney@speakeasy.net> > To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 9:32 pm > Subject: [OHGALLIA] Apologies! > > > > My overly protective ISP's spam trap snagged several of the responses > people had posted to my question about migrations. I think the "answer" > to my question is that there is no particular reason, other than > possibly a desire for fresh land and joining family members that had > already moved into southeastern Ohio. At least now I know I didn't miss > anything of earth shattering importance. Thank you everybody! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

My overly protective ISP's spam trap snagged several of the responses people had posted to my question about migrations. I think the "answer" to my question is that there is no particular reason, other than possibly a desire for fresh land and joining family members that had already moved into southeastern Ohio. At least now I know I didn't miss anything of earth shattering importance. Thank you everybody!

Diana, The Williams in my system are shown below. Jerry Individual List - 23 Jun 2008 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLIAMS, Allison-1534 (F) WILLIAMS, Alonzo-945 (M) Birth 1866 Death 1943 (age 77) Marriage WILLIAMS, Barbara-1373 (F) Birth 1940 Marriage WILLIAMS, Beverly Jane-1380 (F) Birth 1932 Marriage WILLIAMS, Cara L.-1471 (F) Marriage WILLIAMS, Carrie Ann-1537 (F) WILLIAMS, Charles-1185 (M) Birth 27 Dec 1871 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA WILLIAMS, Charles M.-943 (M) Birth 1860 WILLIAMS, Chauncy-1187 (M) Birth 28 Apr 1878 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA WILLIAMS, Clella Pearl-1240 (F) Marriage WILLIAMS, Clifford Edgar-1371 (M) Birth 1935 Marriage Marriage WILLIAMS, Comfort-2542 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, Cornie-1948 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, Dale-1271 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, Daniel-1535 (M) WILLIAMS, David-1184 (M) Birth 17 May 1870 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA WILLIAMS, Dean A.-1473 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, Deborah L.-2455 (F) Marriage WILLIAMS, Edna C.-1267 (F) Birth May 1892 in , , IL, USA WILLIAMS, Ella Rea-1273 (F) Marriage WILLIAMS, Elmer C.-1266 (M) Birth 26 Feb 1881 in , , IL, USA WILLIAMS, Elmer Elsworth-944 (M) Birth bet 1863 and 65 WILLIAMS, Emery-1238 (M) WILLIAMS, Flora E.-996 (F) Birth 31 Oct 1856 in Wapello, Louisa, IA, USA Death 1904 in Rio Grande, Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 48) Burial 1904 in Rio Grande, Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 48) Marriage 11 Jun 1878 in Rio Grande, Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 21) WILLIAMS, Frank C.-1243 (M) Birth 1902 Marriage WILLIAMS, George Washington-937 (M) Birth Nov 1856 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA Misc George Willima dog severely bites James McCormick; Apr 1906 (age 49) Marriage 19 Dec 1876 in , Clay, IL, USA (age 20) Marriage 26 Oct 1890 in , Clay, IL, USA (age 33) WILLIAMS, Harry Valbert-1244 (M) Birth 1908 Death 1964 (age 56) Marriage WILLIAMS, Henry Lafayette-932 (M) Birth 1847 Death 1922 (age 75) Marriage Marriage WILLIAMS, Ira H.-934 (M) Birth 1851 Marriage WILLIAMS, Jamie Lee-1538 (F) WILLIAMS, John-805 (M) Marriage Residence (fam) , Greenbrier, WV, USA WILLIAMS, John-1188 (M) Birth 31 Oct 1880 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA WILLIAMS, John E.-1183 (M) Marriage 10 Aug 1869 in Huntington, Gallia, OH, USA WILLIAMS, John M.-946 (M) Birth 1869 WILLIAMS, Kathleen-1476 (F) Birth 1954 Marriage WILLIAMS, Keren Lee-1374 (F) Birth 1942 WILLIAMS, Kyle-1533 (M) WILLIAMS, Larry Gene-1381 (M) WILLIAMS, Lydia Margaret-938 (F) Birth 1857 Marriage WILLIAMS, Margaret Elllen (Maggie)-3278 (F) Birth 1898 in Wellston, Jackson, OH, USA Death 8 Feb 1968 in , Vinton, OH, USA (age 70) Marriage WILLIAMS, Mary Ellen-936 (F) Birth 1855 Marriage WILLIAMS, Mary M.-1239 (F) Marriage WILLIAMS, Marylou Jean-1372 (F) Birth 1936 Marriage WILLIAMS, Maurice Clark-1270 (M) Birth 1902 Marriage WILLIAMS, Nathan H.-931 (M) Birth 20 Jun 1820 in Frankford, Greenbrier, VA, USA Death 5 Aug 1908 in Sailor Springs, Clay, IL, USA (age 88) Burial Pixley, Clay, IL, USA Marriage 1 Jan 1847 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 26) WILLIAMS, Nellie Cletus-1268 (F) Birth 12 Aug 1899 in , , IL, USA WILLIAMS, Norman-1369 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, Oscar-1265 (M) Birth 5 Nov 1879 in , , IL, USA WILLIAMS, Randy Wayne-1477 (M) Birth 1958 WILLIAMS, Reece A.-940 (M) Birth 1860 Marriage Marriage WILLIAMS, Rose Eunice-1186 (F) Birth 17 Feb 1875 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA WILLIAMS, Steve-1470 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, Susanna-804 (F) Birth 20 Jul 1788 in , Greenbrier, WV, USA Religion Joined M. E. Church; 1803 (age 15) Immigration 1813 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 25) Death cancer of the stomach and liver; 23 Jul 1864 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 76) Burial Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA Marriage 20 Aug 1812 in , Greenbrier, WV, USA (age 24) WILLIAMS, Verde D.-1241 (M) Birth 1895 Marriage WILLIAMS, Virginia Geraldine-1638 (F) Birth 31 Dec 1926 Death Cancer; 18 Jul 1996 in Point Pleasant, Mason, WV, USA (age 69) Marriage 7 Sep 1947 in Russell, Greenup, KY (age 20) WILLIAMS, William-999 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, William H.-1950 (M) Marriage WILLIAMS, William H.-933 (M) Birth 1850 Death 1867 (age 17) Prepared by: Gera;d A. Deckard gdeckard@cox.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana M Cronhardt" <dmcronhardt@juno.com> To: <JudiSpencr@aol.com>; <WVGREENB-L@rootsweb.com>; <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA] Williams Family > Judi, > Some of your note sounded familiar. I haven't found a conection with > Hugh Williams. The following are my notes on a Hugh Williams. > Hugh Williams born 1767, Virginia, died after 1850, Nicholas County, West > Virginia. > *** > Source:Marriage record, Greenbrier, (West) Virginia > 1791 Jan 18 Hugh Williams married Jane Bell by Jno. Alderson > *** > Note from Laura Williams Cannon bob-laura@home.com 5 May 1998, I have > been > researching Hugh Williams and Jane Bell married 18 January 1791. Hugh is > my > 3rd great grandfather. Other information I have on him is that he and > Jane > both died after 1850 and are buried at Buckle Cemetery in Nicholas > County, > WV. I have been searching for information on his parents and /or > siblings. > Please help if you can. Regards, Laura Williams Cannon > Note from Brenda Collins Dillion, RUCollins2@aol.com, Looking for the > children > Hugh and Jane Bell Williams, I have William, Melinda, Alexander, and > Andrew. > *** > 11 June 1787 Hugh Williams 100 acres Culbertson Creek > *** > 1810 Tax List Greenbrier Co, West Virginia, Hugh Williams, 1-0-0 (first > number > in column taxpayer between 16-60), Nicholas was not yet a county. > 1820 Tax List Nicholas Co, West Virginia, Hugh Williams, > 3 males under 10, 1 age 45+ > 2 females age 10-16, 1 age 16-25, 1 age 26-45 > 1840 Tax List Nicholas Co, West Virginia, Hugh Williams > 1 male 60-70; 1 female 60-70 > GREENBRIER WEST VIRGINIA COURT ORDERS 1780=1850 by Helen S. Stinson,1988 > page > 91,114,128,138,140,141,144,160,173,182,186,187,191,197,201,207,209,210,21 > 1, > 212,214,220,227,228,247,259. > 27 Aug 1789 > Research: CHRONICALS OF SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENTS IN AUGUSTA COUNTY, > VIRGINIA > by Lyman Chalkley > Descendants of Hugh Williams > Generation No. 1 > 1. HUGH2 WILLIAMS (JEREMIAH1) was born 1767 in Va., and died Aft. 1850 in > Nicholas Co. WVa.. He married JANE BELL 1781 in Rockingham,Va.. She was > born 1769 in Greenbrier Co. Va., and died Aft. 1850 in Nicholas Co. WVa.. > Children of HUGH WILLIAMS and JANE BELL are: i. ELIJAH3 WILLIAMS. ii. > HUGH WILLIAMS. iii. JOHN WILLIAMS. iv. MARGARET WILLIAMS. v. MARY > WILLIAMS. vi. SARAH WILLIAMS. 2. vii. WILLIAM WILLIAMS, b. 1794, > Greenbrier Co. Va..; d. 1869, Nicholas Co. WV. viii. CALEB WILLIAMS, b. > 1796. ix. FRANCES WILLIAMS, b. 1798. x. JANE ANN WILLIAMS, b. 1804. 3. > xi. MELINDA WILLIAMS, b. 1809, Greenbrier Co. Va.; d. 1880, Nicholas Co. > WV. xii. ANDREW WILLIAMS, b. 1813. xiii. ALEXANDER WILLIAMS, b. 1817. > Generation No. 2 > 2. WILLIAM3 WILLIAMS (HUGH2, JEREMIAH1) was born 1794 in Greenbrier Co. > Va.., and died 1869 in Nicholas Co. WV. He married (1) REBECCA HEATERS. > He married (2) ELIZABETH JONES 1818 in Kanawha Co. WV, daughter of THOMAS > JONES and LAVINAH THOMAS. She was born 1796 in Greenbrier Co. WV, and > died 1882 in Nicholas Co. WV. > Children of WILLIAM WILLIAMS and ELIZABETH JONES are: i. ROBERT4 > WILLIAMS, b. 1818, Nicholas Co. WV; m. MIRIAM NEAL, 1839; b. 1820. ii. > SENNETT WILLIAMS, b. 1820, Nicholas Co. WV; m. NELLIE NUTTER, 1841; b. > 1823, Nicholas Co. WVa.; d. 1869. iii. HARRIETT WILLIAMS, b. 1822, > Nicholas Co. WV; m. GEORGE N. GRAY; b. 1821, Nicholas Co. WVa.. iv. > REBECCA WILLIAMS, b. 1825, Nicholas Co. WV; d. 1857, Nicholas Co. WVa.; > m. DAVID S. NUTTER; b. 1825. 4. v. JOHN JONES WILLIAMS, b. 1826, Nicholas > Co. WVa.; d. Bef. 1880, Nicholas Co. WVa.. vi. ALEXANDER WILLIAMS, b. > 1829, Nicholas Co. WV; d. 1891, Nicholas Co. WVa.; m. ALMERINDA O'DELL; > b. 1833, Nicholas Co. WV. vii. WILLIAM T. WILLIAMS, b. 1832, Nicholas Co. > WV; m. MARY SIZEMORE; b. 1838. viii. SAMUEL F. WILLIAMS, b. 1833, > Nicholas Co. WV; m. ELIZABETH MARY BAILES, 1856; b. 1839. ix. SHELTON > PARKER WILLIAMS, b. 1834, Nicholas Co. WV; m. (1) MARY JEFFERS; m. (2) > SUSAN DUNBAR; m. (3) MARY O'DELL; m. (4) CATHERINE BARRETT. > 3. MELINDA3 WILLIAMS (HUGH2, JEREMIAH1) was born 1809 in Greenbrier Co. > Va., and died 1880 in Nicholas Co. WV. She married STEPHEN TAYLOR 1826 in > Nicholas Co. WV, son of ELI TAYLOR and MARGARET WOODS. He was born Abt. > 1801 in Greenbrier Co. Va., and died 1880 in Nicholas Co. WV. > Children of MELINDA WILLIAMS and STEPHEN TAYLOR are: i. MARTHA4 TAYLOR, > b. 1827, Nicholas Co. WV; m. NATHAN GROVES, February 17, 1858, Nicholas > Co. WV by Thomas J Reynolds. ii. SARAH JANE TAYLOR, b. 1829. iii. HUGH W. > TAYLOR, b. 1830, Nicholas Co. WV; m. NANCY C. SPENCER, August 29, 1856, N > icholas Co. WV by William Downtrain. iv. MARGARET TAYLOR, b. 1833, N > icholas Co. WV by William Downtrain; m. WELLINGTON SPARKS, December 11, > 1852, N icholas Co. WV. 5. v. CATHERINE TAYLOR, b. July 13, 1834, n > icholas Co. WV; d. 1910, Nicholas Co. WVa.. 6. vi. RUTH TAYLOR, b. 1840, > n icholas Co. WV. vii. ELIZABETH TAYLOR, b. 1842, n icholas Co. WV. viii. > MARY TAYLOR, b. 1844, n icholas Co. WV. > This sound like your family, am I correct? I will have to do more > looking. > > Thanks, > Diana > > > On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:00:40 EDT JudiSpencr@aol.com writes: > I am descended from William Williams born abt 1720 Wales and his wife Ann > Jones. they had a son Jeremiah born abt 1750 Wales died 1824 Giles Co Va > who married Mary Garst. Jeremiah had a son Hugh born 1767 Montgomery now > Giles Co Va died Nicholas Co 1853 married Jane Ann Bell. Hugh had a son > William 1794 - 1869 who married Eliz. Jones. > > Any of this sound familiar to you. > > I have a cousin who has extensive material on the Williams Family. I will > forward your note to her and see if she has anything. > > Judi > > > > > > > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used > cars. > ____________________________________________________________ > Smart Girls Secret Weapon > Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3xPFecPlLyzMCVJtJFBxT9bCT69QFLV8pws4WHGR7m33u/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Beth. It's not often I take the opportunity to post something on the list, but your question fits with my interests in Gallia more than most. The Ohio River was the end of the United States in 1790 or so, which meant that there wasn't military protection against the original owners, and it was generally regarded as held by the French. The first organized excursion into the area was the Jackson Salt Lick, which drew brave people from south of the river to manufacture salt. This was also the first attempt to apply the new technique of surveying land in straight lines. The salt processing brought many people to the operation in Jackson. My particular people were horsemen and cattle folk, supplying goods and services to the operation and it's residents. First settlers were from Kentucky, Virginia, and Pennsylvania mainly. The population quickly went outside the original surveyed square and found land in nearby areas for grazing and feed-raising. I've been unable to locate any records of this settlement. Gallia County was formed some years after this operation was built. I suspect my view of the history of Gallia differs somewhat from most people: I say the original settlement was in Jackson, and the vendors to the salt operation drifted south to what is now Gallia County. Then the folk moved across the river to the current county as it was surveyed. That's my story.... Beth Haney wrote: > I've read a number of pieces about the movement into Ohio and points > westward, but does anyone have a clue why so many people from the Monroe > County, Virginia, area moved specifically into Gallia and Lawrence > counties? I know there were early settlers in both places shortly after > Ohio became a state, but either the traffic picked up a whole lot during > the 1830s and 1840s, or my perception has been tainted by the number of > -- Marty Cassidy On the Road, USA

Beth, I may have a little bit of an answer for you. I went to a lecture this summer in Denver regarding genealogy in the Ohio River Valley. The speaker was a genius in the matter and explained migration a bit. Although these answers might not be as specific as you are looking for. These answers are not my own, just a little something that I picked up. Also, I'm not from Ohio or the area so forgive my lack of geographic knowledge. 1. The state of Ohio has more Revolutionary War veterans buried there than any other state. 2. Land north of the Ohio River was sold and given to Revolutionary War Veterans as a thank you for their service. The reason this land was selected was because the land had not been settled much yet and northern Ohio was full of Mohawk Indians who were apparently VERY violent and ruthless... or at least the colonists thought so. So, the government figured they could put veterans in this area, who were typically pretty rough and not easily scared, as a sort of barrier between the Mohawks and colonists (or is Americans the right word). However this was typically from after the revolution until 1795 with the Indian Treaties. 3. If an area wanted to become a state, it required a certain minimum population in order to qualify. Often times, states had to lure people to their area with incentives. Prior to statehood (1803, correct?) Ohio promised each new settler tax exemption for 5 years in order to lure people to the area. What that means for the genealogist is that if you find someone on a tax roll for the first time in 1804, they had been in the state since 1799. I'm not sure when this incentive began or ended. I would assume from the end of the war to statehood or shortly thereafter. I know these answers are before your timeline but I think it plays a role and I'm sure your explanation of family joining family is the rest of the argument. My family migrated from Montgomery County, Virginia to Gallia in the early 1800s. Another thing he brought up which may relate indirectly is what was called the "national road" which is vaguely Interstate 70 today. Because of the mountainous territory there (I'm assuming the Appalachian Mountains) there were very few easy paths west. Many new settlers, especially Germans, would land in Baltimore. The road let them to Pittsburgh and on into Columbus. That seemed to be the easiest path west. Hope that answers some questions and that it doesn't bring up more. Mary Clark -----Original Message----- From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beth Haney Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 4:57 PM To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHGALLIA] A question about migration I've read a number of pieces about the movement into Ohio and points westward, but does anyone have a clue why so many people from the Monroe County, Virginia, area moved specifically into Gallia and Lawrence counties? I know there were early settlers in both places shortly after Ohio became a state, but either the traffic picked up a whole lot during the 1830s and 1840s, or my perception has been tainted by the number of people from the lines I research who showed up around then. I'm just wondering if there was something of particular significance I missed or whether it was simply a matter of some of those in Monroe County deciding to join family members who made the move before them. ???? I've considered all kinds of things, but I'd be interested in hearing what others might have come up with in the way of an explanation. Or am I the only one who's curious enough to go to this much trouble?! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Marty. That's very interesting! I have another "contingent" that came down into Gallia from Jackson County, too, and at about the same time as the ones from Monroe, and then there was another group that came down out of Muskingum. Maybe I'm just simply trying to attach meaning to something that was pure coincidence, but it strikes me as odd that people were moving into essentially the same area during the same period of time and from different directions. As you know, there are all kinds of mysteries in genealogy, but this one seemed like one I might have been able to solve, but maybe not. Oh, well. Marty Cassidy wrote: > Hi Beth. It's not often I take the opportunity to post something on the > list, but your question fits with my interests in Gallia more than most. > > The Ohio River was the end of the United States in 1790 or so, which > meant that there wasn't military protection against the original owners, > and it was generally regarded as held by the French. The first organized > excursion into the area was the Jackson Salt Lick, which drew brave > people from south of the river to manufacture salt. This was also the > first attempt to apply the new technique of surveying land in straight > lines. > > The salt processing brought many people to the operation in Jackson. My > particular people were horsemen and cattle folk, supplying goods and > services to the operation and it's residents. First settlers were from > Kentucky, Virginia, and Pennsylvania mainly. > > The population quickly went outside the original surveyed square and > found land in nearby areas for grazing and feed-raising. > > I've been unable to locate any records of this settlement. Gallia County > was formed some years after this operation was built. > > I suspect my view of the history of Gallia differs somewhat from most > people: I say the original settlement was in Jackson, and the vendors to > the salt operation drifted south to what is now Gallia County. Then the > folk moved across the river to the current county as it was surveyed. > > That's my story.... > > > > Beth Haney wrote: > >> I've read a number of pieces about the movement into Ohio and points >> westward, but does anyone have a clue why so many people from the Monroe >> County, Virginia, area moved specifically into Gallia and Lawrence >> counties? I know there were early settlers in both places shortly after >> Ohio became a state, but either the traffic picked up a whole lot during >> the 1830s and 1840s, or my perception has been tainted by the number of >> >> > > >

Well, yeh, I got that part. I've spent so much time researching this that I even know Colonel Andrew Lewis made the first trip across that trail back in 1774 when it was still known as the Shawnee Indian War Path. What I can't figure out why so many of them who went to Gallia and Lawrence counties decided to make the trip in the first place. I got curious as I was reviewing my notes about one family that came sometime between 1830 and 1840. The father had inherited a decent size piece of property in Monroe County from his father. So, basically, he had what he needed to raise his family there. Instead he packed up his younger kids and moved to Gallia County. I don't have a clue what the value of the Monroe County property might have been back then, and I considered that he might have been able to sell it off and buy even more land in Gallia County. Two of his daughters and their husbands had already moved to Gallia County, but they seem to have followed a couple of their aunts. Was the desire to stay close to both immediate and extended family that strong? I can understand why the young ones might have wanted to make the move and establish themselves somewhere else, but the fact the parents trailed along behind, leaving their home, is what is driving my curiosity. Is the desire to stay with family it? Or is there something else that I haven't yet figured out? Or does nobody else know either?! :) NEILEL@aol.com wrote: > Monroe County in what is now West Virginia was located right on what is > known as the Kanawha Trace where it enters West Virginia near Peterstown. This > was the overland trail that settlers followed to get from southwest Virginia to > Ohio. It follows along the banks of the New River to where it joins to form > the Great Kanawha and then follows it to where it empties into the Ohio just > opposite Gallipolis. Gallia County would have been the first Ohio stop. > > Neil E. > > > > > > > > **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for > fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I'm going to assume you're just kidding? I had in mind something more like why did they leave Monroe County in the first place? :) JFBJR wrote: > Maybe where they could cross the river > > R/S > Jim Benson > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Beth Haney > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:57 PM > To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHGALLIA] A question about migration > > I've read a number of pieces about the movement into Ohio and points > westward, but does anyone have a clue why so many people from the Monroe > County, Virginia, area moved specifically into Gallia and Lawrence > counties? I know there were early settlers in both places shortly after > Ohio became a state, but either the traffic picked up a whole lot during > the 1830s and 1840s, or my perception has been tainted by the number of > people from the lines I research who showed up around then. I'm just > wondering if there was something of particular significance I missed or > whether it was simply a matter of some of those in Monroe County > deciding to join family members who made the move before them. ???? > > I've considered all kinds of things, but I'd be interested in hearing > what others might have come up with in the way of an explanation. Or am > I the only one who's curious enough to go to this much trouble?! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > __________ NOD32 3210 (20080623) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Maybe where they could cross the river R/S Jim Benson -----Original Message----- From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beth Haney Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:57 PM To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHGALLIA] A question about migration I've read a number of pieces about the movement into Ohio and points westward, but does anyone have a clue why so many people from the Monroe County, Virginia, area moved specifically into Gallia and Lawrence counties? I know there were early settlers in both places shortly after Ohio became a state, but either the traffic picked up a whole lot during the 1830s and 1840s, or my perception has been tainted by the number of people from the lines I research who showed up around then. I'm just wondering if there was something of particular significance I missed or whether it was simply a matter of some of those in Monroe County deciding to join family members who made the move before them. ???? I've considered all kinds of things, but I'd be interested in hearing what others might have come up with in the way of an explanation. Or am I the only one who's curious enough to go to this much trouble?! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 3210 (20080623) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

I've read a number of pieces about the movement into Ohio and points westward, but does anyone have a clue why so many people from the Monroe County, Virginia, area moved specifically into Gallia and Lawrence counties? I know there were early settlers in both places shortly after Ohio became a state, but either the traffic picked up a whole lot during the 1830s and 1840s, or my perception has been tainted by the number of people from the lines I research who showed up around then. I'm just wondering if there was something of particular significance I missed or whether it was simply a matter of some of those in Monroe County deciding to join family members who made the move before them. ???? I've considered all kinds of things, but I'd be interested in hearing what others might have come up with in the way of an explanation. Or am I the only one who's curious enough to go to this much trouble?!

Thank you I'll look into this possibility. -------------- Original message -------------- From: mcnab2000@comcast.net > This may be of some help to you: > > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display > =titledetails&titleno=665863&disp=Albright%2C+Allbright+family > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: tesmith40@comcast.net > > > Hi everyone! > > > > I'm researching the Effie (Erwin) & Jacob Allbright family line. I've been > told > > that a Willard Albright published an ALLBRIGHT family history back in 1993 & > > that the book is no longer available for purchase. Is this true? > > > > First, has anyone seen one of these books for sale anywhere? I'd love to have > a > > copy. > > > > Second, I'm wondering if the book is available for research purpose in the > > library of either societies? > > > > I've been told it doesn't have much on my line ELIZA JANE ALLBRIGHT b. March > > 1836 and wife of Joseph Alfred Selix....but it will be a wealth of information > > for her siblings. > > > > Thank you so much , > > Theresa E. Smith > > Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Judi, Some of your note sounded familiar. I haven't found a conection with Hugh Williams. The following are my notes on a Hugh Williams. Hugh Williams born 1767, Virginia, died after 1850, Nicholas County, West Virginia. *** Source:Marriage record, Greenbrier, (West) Virginia 1791 Jan 18 Hugh Williams married Jane Bell by Jno. Alderson *** Note from Laura Williams Cannon bob-laura@home.com 5 May 1998, I have been researching Hugh Williams and Jane Bell married 18 January 1791. Hugh is my 3rd great grandfather. Other information I have on him is that he and Jane both died after 1850 and are buried at Buckle Cemetery in Nicholas County, WV. I have been searching for information on his parents and /or siblings. Please help if you can. Regards, Laura Williams Cannon Note from Brenda Collins Dillion, RUCollins2@aol.com, Looking for the children Hugh and Jane Bell Williams, I have William, Melinda, Alexander, and Andrew. *** 11 June 1787 Hugh Williams 100 acres Culbertson Creek *** 1810 Tax List Greenbrier Co, West Virginia, Hugh Williams, 1-0-0 (first number in column taxpayer between 16-60), Nicholas was not yet a county. 1820 Tax List Nicholas Co, West Virginia, Hugh Williams, 3 males under 10, 1 age 45+ 2 females age 10-16, 1 age 16-25, 1 age 26-45 1840 Tax List Nicholas Co, West Virginia, Hugh Williams 1 male 60-70; 1 female 60-70 GREENBRIER WEST VIRGINIA COURT ORDERS 1780=1850 by Helen S. Stinson,1988 page 91,114,128,138,140,141,144,160,173,182,186,187,191,197,201,207,209,210,21 1, 212,214,220,227,228,247,259. 27 Aug 1789 Research: CHRONICALS OF SCOTCH-IRISH SETTLEMENTS IN AUGUSTA COUNTY, VIRGINIA by Lyman Chalkley Descendants of Hugh Williams Generation No. 1 1. HUGH2 WILLIAMS (JEREMIAH1) was born 1767 in Va., and died Aft. 1850 in Nicholas Co. WVa.. He married JANE BELL 1781 in Rockingham,Va.. She was born 1769 in Greenbrier Co. Va., and died Aft. 1850 in Nicholas Co. WVa.. Children of HUGH WILLIAMS and JANE BELL are: i. ELIJAH3 WILLIAMS. ii. HUGH WILLIAMS. iii. JOHN WILLIAMS. iv. MARGARET WILLIAMS. v. MARY WILLIAMS. vi. SARAH WILLIAMS. 2. vii. WILLIAM WILLIAMS, b. 1794, Greenbrier Co. Va..; d. 1869, Nicholas Co. WV. viii. CALEB WILLIAMS, b. 1796. ix. FRANCES WILLIAMS, b. 1798. x. JANE ANN WILLIAMS, b. 1804. 3. xi. MELINDA WILLIAMS, b. 1809, Greenbrier Co. Va.; d. 1880, Nicholas Co. WV. xii. ANDREW WILLIAMS, b. 1813. xiii. ALEXANDER WILLIAMS, b. 1817. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM3 WILLIAMS (HUGH2, JEREMIAH1) was born 1794 in Greenbrier Co. Va.., and died 1869 in Nicholas Co. WV. He married (1) REBECCA HEATERS. He married (2) ELIZABETH JONES 1818 in Kanawha Co. WV, daughter of THOMAS JONES and LAVINAH THOMAS. She was born 1796 in Greenbrier Co. WV, and died 1882 in Nicholas Co. WV. Children of WILLIAM WILLIAMS and ELIZABETH JONES are: i. ROBERT4 WILLIAMS, b. 1818, Nicholas Co. WV; m. MIRIAM NEAL, 1839; b. 1820. ii. SENNETT WILLIAMS, b. 1820, Nicholas Co. WV; m. NELLIE NUTTER, 1841; b. 1823, Nicholas Co. WVa.; d. 1869. iii. HARRIETT WILLIAMS, b. 1822, Nicholas Co. WV; m. GEORGE N. GRAY; b. 1821, Nicholas Co. WVa.. iv. REBECCA WILLIAMS, b. 1825, Nicholas Co. WV; d. 1857, Nicholas Co. WVa.; m. DAVID S. NUTTER; b. 1825. 4. v. JOHN JONES WILLIAMS, b. 1826, Nicholas Co. WVa.; d. Bef. 1880, Nicholas Co. WVa.. vi. ALEXANDER WILLIAMS, b. 1829, Nicholas Co. WV; d. 1891, Nicholas Co. WVa.; m. ALMERINDA O'DELL; b. 1833, Nicholas Co. WV. vii. WILLIAM T. WILLIAMS, b. 1832, Nicholas Co. WV; m. MARY SIZEMORE; b. 1838. viii. SAMUEL F. WILLIAMS, b. 1833, Nicholas Co. WV; m. ELIZABETH MARY BAILES, 1856; b. 1839. ix. SHELTON PARKER WILLIAMS, b. 1834, Nicholas Co. WV; m. (1) MARY JEFFERS; m. (2) SUSAN DUNBAR; m. (3) MARY O'DELL; m. (4) CATHERINE BARRETT. 3. MELINDA3 WILLIAMS (HUGH2, JEREMIAH1) was born 1809 in Greenbrier Co. Va., and died 1880 in Nicholas Co. WV. She married STEPHEN TAYLOR 1826 in Nicholas Co. WV, son of ELI TAYLOR and MARGARET WOODS. He was born Abt. 1801 in Greenbrier Co. Va., and died 1880 in Nicholas Co. WV. Children of MELINDA WILLIAMS and STEPHEN TAYLOR are: i. MARTHA4 TAYLOR, b. 1827, Nicholas Co. WV; m. NATHAN GROVES, February 17, 1858, Nicholas Co. WV by Thomas J Reynolds. ii. SARAH JANE TAYLOR, b. 1829. iii. HUGH W. TAYLOR, b. 1830, Nicholas Co. WV; m. NANCY C. SPENCER, August 29, 1856, N icholas Co. WV by William Downtrain. iv. MARGARET TAYLOR, b. 1833, N icholas Co. WV by William Downtrain; m. WELLINGTON SPARKS, December 11, 1852, N icholas Co. WV. 5. v. CATHERINE TAYLOR, b. July 13, 1834, n icholas Co. WV; d. 1910, Nicholas Co. WVa.. 6. vi. RUTH TAYLOR, b. 1840, n icholas Co. WV. vii. ELIZABETH TAYLOR, b. 1842, n icholas Co. WV. viii. MARY TAYLOR, b. 1844, n icholas Co. WV. This sound like your family, am I correct? I will have to do more looking. Thanks, Diana On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:00:40 EDT JudiSpencr@aol.com writes: I am descended from William Williams born abt 1720 Wales and his wife Ann Jones. they had a son Jeremiah born abt 1750 Wales died 1824 Giles Co Va who married Mary Garst. Jeremiah had a son Hugh born 1767 Montgomery now Giles Co Va died Nicholas Co 1853 married Jane Ann Bell. Hugh had a son William 1794 - 1869 who married Eliz. Jones. Any of this sound familiar to you. I have a cousin who has extensive material on the Williams Family. I will forward your note to her and see if she has anything. Judi Gas prices getting you down? 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Hi Morris, I have checked all my Williams files and found nothing that will help you. This is all I found that was close. HARDESTY'S HISTORICAL AND GEOGRAPHICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA,by Henry H Hardesty, New York, 1884 Transcribed and submitted br Ed Johnson,EDEAJ@aol.com Waitman T. W. Williams born 7 Sept 1866 , Pocahontas, (West) Virginia. Sorry. I will keep my eyes open. Diana On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:27:48 -0700 "Morris A. Johnson" <johnson1550@wbhsi.net> writes: > Diana, Eliza E. Williams (b. 2 Oct 1842, Washington Co., OH, d. 22 > Jul 1903, > Wakita, OK) was my great grandmother. I believe she was the daughter > of > Watkin Williams (b. 1793) but I'm not sure. Watkin was from Wales, > and > Ancestry.com has several hits, but nothing I can hang on to. > > If there is any relationship, William Williams and Mary Watts would > have > been from the previous generation. > > What do you think? > > Morris Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Diana M Cronhardt > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:43 AM > To: wvgreenb-l@rootsweb.com; OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [!! SPAM] [OHGALLIA] William Williams and Mary Watts > > I was wondering if any one was related to the Williams family. > William > Williams, born 1757 and Mary Watts, born 1776 were married in > Greenbrier, 21 May 1795. I have a lot of information on Mary Watts > family but very little on Williams family before he arrived in > Greenbrier. > WILLIAM WILLIAMS-William Williams entered the service from > Botetourt > County, Virginia in the spring of 1780. He was under Col. Campbell > and > they joined the troops at Hillsborough, North Carlolina on the day > that > Col.Green took command. He served eighteen months before he was > discharged. He was in the battles of Camden & Guilford and at the > Seige > of Nine-Six. He served wholly in North Carolina and South Carolinas. > He > sold his discharge to Samuel Price and William McClung for four or > five > gallons of whiskey. William made application for his pension 13 Aug > 1832 > while a resident of Walnut Township,Gallia County. His claim was > allowed. > > William was born in Fairfax County, Virginia 17 Sep 1757. He > enlisted in > Botetourt County and lived in Greenbrier County, Virginia until 1817 > when > he moved to Gallia County, Ohio. William married Mary Watts 21 May > 1795 > in Greenbrier County, Virginia. She was born 20 Nov 1779 in > Greenbrier > County, Virginia and died 25 Dec 1860 in Gallia County, Ohio. She > made > application for a pension 13 June 1850 and it was executed. William > died > 23 Aug 1832 in Walnut Township and is buried at Bethesda Cemetery, > Walnut > Township, Gallia County. > > > > > > > I have been trying to > find > his parents and his siblings for years. William Williams and Mary > Watts > are my great3 grandparents. > Diana Cronhardt > Borrego Springs, CA > 760-767-4248 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Summer Spa Sweepstakes > Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UbfChSm1MgDxSzevMaafj Hq2 > 8fM9lDv2hSB1TsI61GBVE4/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Smart Girls Secret Weapon Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3xQufaGrhRw2mwrv8U3YP73vKPNXLEdWlS6BdJDz5C5CL/

Diana, Eliza E. Williams (b. 2 Oct 1842, Washington Co., OH, d. 22 Jul 1903, Wakita, OK) was my great grandmother. I believe she was the daughter of Watkin Williams (b. 1793) but I'm not sure. Watkin was from Wales, and Ancestry.com has several hits, but nothing I can hang on to. If there is any relationship, William Williams and Mary Watts would have been from the previous generation. What do you think? Morris Johnson -----Original Message----- From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana M Cronhardt Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:43 AM To: wvgreenb-l@rootsweb.com; OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [!! SPAM] [OHGALLIA] William Williams and Mary Watts I was wondering if any one was related to the Williams family. William Williams, born 1757 and Mary Watts, born 1776 were married in Greenbrier, 21 May 1795. I have a lot of information on Mary Watts family but very little on Williams family before he arrived in Greenbrier. WILLIAM WILLIAMS-William Williams entered the service from Botetourt County, Virginia in the spring of 1780. He was under Col. Campbell and they joined the troops at Hillsborough, North Carlolina on the day that Col.Green took command. He served eighteen months before he was discharged. He was in the battles of Camden & Guilford and at the Seige of Nine-Six. He served wholly in North Carolina and South Carolinas. He sold his discharge to Samuel Price and William McClung for four or five gallons of whiskey. William made application for his pension 13 Aug 1832 while a resident of Walnut Township,Gallia County. His claim was allowed. William was born in Fairfax County, Virginia 17 Sep 1757. He enlisted in Botetourt County and lived in Greenbrier County, Virginia until 1817 when he moved to Gallia County, Ohio. William married Mary Watts 21 May 1795 in Greenbrier County, Virginia. She was born 20 Nov 1779 in Greenbrier County, Virginia and died 25 Dec 1860 in Gallia County, Ohio. She made application for a pension 13 June 1850 and it was executed. William died 23 Aug 1832 in Walnut Township and is buried at Bethesda Cemetery, Walnut Township, Gallia County. I have been trying to find his parents and his siblings for years. William Williams and Mary Watts are my great3 grandparents. Diana Cronhardt Borrego Springs, CA 760-767-4248 ____________________________________________________________ Summer Spa Sweepstakes Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UbfChSm1MgDxSzevMaafjHq2 8fM9lDv2hSB1TsI61GBVE4/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was wondering if any one was related to the Williams family. William Williams, born 1757 and Mary Watts, born 1776 were married in Greenbrier, 21 May 1795. I have a lot of information on Mary Watts family but very little on Williams family before he arrived in Greenbrier. WILLIAM WILLIAMS-William Williams entered the service from Botetourt County, Virginia in the spring of 1780. He was under Col. Campbell and they joined the troops at Hillsborough, North Carlolina on the day that Col.Green took command. He served eighteen months before he was discharged. He was in the battles of Camden & Guilford and at the Seige of Nine-Six. He served wholly in North Carolina and South Carolinas. He sold his discharge to Samuel Price and William McClung for four or five gallons of whiskey. William made application for his pension 13 Aug 1832 while a resident of Walnut Township,Gallia County. His claim was allowed. William was born in Fairfax County, Virginia 17 Sep 1757. He enlisted in Botetourt County and lived in Greenbrier County, Virginia until 1817 when he moved to Gallia County, Ohio. William married Mary Watts 21 May 1795 in Greenbrier County, Virginia. She was born 20 Nov 1779 in Greenbrier County, Virginia and died 25 Dec 1860 in Gallia County, Ohio. She made application for a pension 13 June 1850 and it was executed. William died 23 Aug 1832 in Walnut Township and is buried at Bethesda Cemetery, Walnut Township, Gallia County. I have been trying to find his parents and his siblings for years. William Williams and Mary Watts are my great3 grandparents. Diana Cronhardt Borrego Springs, CA 760-767-4248 ____________________________________________________________ Summer Spa Sweepstakes Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UbfChSm1MgDxSzevMaafjHq28fM9lDv2hSB1TsI61GBVE4/

This may be of some help to you: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=665863&disp=Albright%2C+Allbright+family -------------- Original message -------------- From: tesmith40@comcast.net > Hi everyone! > > I'm researching the Effie (Erwin) & Jacob Allbright family line. I've been told > that a Willard Albright published an ALLBRIGHT family history back in 1993 & > that the book is no longer available for purchase. Is this true? > > First, has anyone seen one of these books for sale anywhere? I'd love to have a > copy. > > Second, I'm wondering if the book is available for research purpose in the > library of either societies? > > I've been told it doesn't have much on my line ELIZA JANE ALLBRIGHT b. March > 1836 and wife of Joseph Alfred Selix....but it will be a wealth of information > for her siblings. > > Thank you so much , > Theresa E. Smith > Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone! I'm researching the Effie (Erwin) & Jacob Allbright family line. I've been told that a Willard Albright published an ALLBRIGHT family history back in 1993 & that the book is no longer available for purchase. Is this true? First, has anyone seen one of these books for sale anywhere? I'd love to have a copy. Second, I'm wondering if the book is available for research purpose in the library of either societies? I've been told it doesn't have much on my line ELIZA JANE ALLBRIGHT b. March 1836 and wife of Joseph Alfred Selix....but it will be a wealth of information for her siblings. Thank you so much , Theresa E. Smith Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania, USA