Hello Marty, I live in Kansas City and have the Roadrunner email. It is part of Time Warner. To my knowledge nothing has been recently purchased to change the Roadrunner (rr) email addresses, at least not that I have noticed. To contact them it is wwww.rr.com Norene -----Original Message----- From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ohgallia-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:26 PM To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Subject: OHGALLIA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 232 Today's Topics: 1. Re: [!! SPAM] Re: William Williams and Mary Watts (Morris A. Johnson) 2. Re: migration (Linda Trent) 3. Re: migration (Linda Trent) 4. Re: Fwd Gene Fest 2008 and OCWGJ (Linda Trent) 5. Thanks, Beth, for the migration discussion (Jokagal@aol.com) 6. Re: migration (Marty Cassidy) 7. Admin Hat On Now (Marty Cassidy) 8. Scott Marriages in Gallia County--1888-1890 Thanks Beth Haney! (Jokagal@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:47:29 -0700 From: "Morris A. Johnson" <johnson1550@wbhsi.net> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA] [!! SPAM] Re: William Williams and Mary Watts To: <ohgallia@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <42CEDE4166434FAFB38487BE6D566D95@MorrisPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks much, Diana! Morris -----Original Message----- From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana M Cronhardt Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:23 AM To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [OHGALLIA] William Williams and Mary Watts Hi Morris, I have checked all my Williams files and found nothing that will help you. This is all I found that was close. HARDESTY'S HISTORICAL AND GEOGRAPHICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA,by Henry H Hardesty, New York, 1884 Transcribed and submitted br Ed Johnson,EDEAJ@aol.com Waitman T. W. Williams born 7 Sept 1866 , Pocahontas, (West) Virginia. Sorry. I will keep my eyes open. Diana On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:27:48 -0700 "Morris A. Johnson" <johnson1550@wbhsi.net> writes: > Diana, Eliza E. Williams (b. 2 Oct 1842, Washington Co., OH, d. 22 > Jul 1903, > Wakita, OK) was my great grandmother. I believe she was the daughter > of > Watkin Williams (b. 1793) but I'm not sure. Watkin was from Wales, > and > Ancestry.com has several hits, but nothing I can hang on to. > > If there is any relationship, William Williams and Mary Watts would > have > been from the previous generation. > > What do you think? > > Morris Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Diana M Cronhardt > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:43 AM > To: wvgreenb-l@rootsweb.com; OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [!! SPAM] [OHGALLIA] William Williams and Mary Watts > > I was wondering if any one was related to the Williams family. > William > Williams, born 1757 and Mary Watts, born 1776 were married in > Greenbrier, 21 May 1795. I have a lot of information on Mary Watts > family but very little on Williams family before he arrived in > Greenbrier. > WILLIAM WILLIAMS-William Williams entered the service from > Botetourt > County, Virginia in the spring of 1780. He was under Col. Campbell > and > they joined the troops at Hillsborough, North Carlolina on the day > that > Col.Green took command. He served eighteen months before he was > discharged. He was in the battles of Camden & Guilford and at the > Seige > of Nine-Six. He served wholly in North Carolina and South Carolinas. > He > sold his discharge to Samuel Price and William McClung for four or > five > gallons of whiskey. William made application for his pension 13 Aug > 1832 > while a resident of Walnut Township,Gallia County. His claim was > allowed. > > William was born in Fairfax County, Virginia 17 Sep 1757. He > enlisted in > Botetourt County and lived in Greenbrier County, Virginia until 1817 > when > he moved to Gallia County, Ohio. William married Mary Watts 21 May > 1795 > in Greenbrier County, Virginia. She was born 20 Nov 1779 in > Greenbrier > County, Virginia and died 25 Dec 1860 in Gallia County, Ohio. She > made > application for a pension 13 June 1850 and it was executed. William > died > 23 Aug 1832 in Walnut Township and is buried at Bethesda Cemetery, > Walnut > Township, Gallia County. > > > > > > > I have been trying to > find > his parents and his siblings for years. William Williams and Mary > Watts > are my great3 grandparents. > Diana Cronhardt > Borrego Springs, CA > 760-767-4248 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Summer Spa Sweepstakes > Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UbfChSm1MgDxSzevMaafj Hq2 > 8fM9lDv2hSB1TsI61GBVE4/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Smart Girls Secret Weapon Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3xQufaGrhRw2mwrv8U3YP73 vKPNXLEdWlS6BdJDz5C5CL/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:04:08 -0400 From: "Linda Trent" <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA] migration To: <ohgallia@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001d01c8d603$36315db0$7d7cfd04@LINDA1PHC8WPIP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think a lot of what opened up the entire Ohio territory was the end of the Battle of Fallen Timbers and the Treaty of Greenville. With the evacuation of the Indians from all but the extreme sections of NW Ohio, the northern, eastern and southern sections of the state were opened up to white settlement. In the earliest days there weren't many roads, mostly just old Indian trails and such, and many of those ran through Virginia and into southern Ohio. I wonder if many of our ancestors just settled in the first place they came to once they crossed into the Ohio territory. And not only that, but they were probably aware of the fact that the Ohio was to be the center of their commerce world for decades to come. The railroad did not actually enter Gallipolis until post Civil War, and the canal came down to Portsmouth. In some instances we may never know what really brought our ancestors here, but even if they didn't come with other family, perhaps they came with friends, or not so near relatives that we just haven't found the connection to, yet. The other thing is that once people arrived in a specific location they tended to write home, many wrote home telling about the wonderful soil, and about large tracts of farmland for sale, or the fact that it wasn't as frontier as many thought because river traffic supplied all the wants and necessities of the civilized world. New York, Pittsburg, New Orleans, etc. These letters were generally shared with family and friends of the recipient and thus again people chose to move to better their position in whatever area they were interested in (better farmland, social connections, commerce, etc). Personally, I don't think age really made that much of a difference, especially if the newcomer was moving into the town rather than the country. Being a river town, Gallipolis winters far better than the mountains of western Virginia (think Snowshoe ski resort in Pocahontas County), as well as the mountainous terrain of Greenbriar and Monroe County. Unless one likes to ski, Gallia County is much nicer in the winter. :-) If one looks at the Virginia Formation maps for various years one'll see that Monroe, Greenbriar, Bath, and Botetourt, and Augusta Counties were all formed (though still changing boundaries), and those are all the counties that most of us can connect back to through our Gallia ancestors. Allegheny County didn't come into existance until 1822. http://www.familyhistory101.com/maps/va_cf.html Most of those counties connected up with the various trails that lead into the once forbidden lands, prior to the great American war for Independence. There are so many reasons why our ancestors might have moved, and I pretty much gave up speculating on that once we set sail for America. Linda ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:22:38 -0400 From: "Linda Trent" <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA] migration To: <ohgallia@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002501c8d605$c2df6520$7d7cfd04@LINDA1PHC8WPIP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > river traffic supplied all the wants and necessities of the civilized > world. New York, Pittsburg, New Orleans, etc. Leave it to my husband to always have another answer. :-) Yep, not only did the Ohio bring things to Gallia County, but it also took things from Gallia County. All those farmers with crops and livestock had a means of getting their things to market, and the river was much easier than overland through the mountains. The National Road (US Rte. 40) was one of the first improved roads in the US, and it wasn't started until 1811, and didn't reach Wheeling until 1818. So we're talking pretty primative to anything we're used to by today's standard. Linda. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:48:45 -0400 From: "Linda Trent" <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA] Fwd Gene Fest 2008 and OCWGJ To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003001c8d609$6869e800$7d7cfd04@LINDA1PHC8WPIP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Fife > display and information tables; ... > covering such topics as Publishing with Lulu, Unfortunately, I am unable to do the "Publishing with Lulu" table this year. Instead, I sent Mary Lee a Word document that contains everything I know about it and have given them permission to copy it and put it on a table for attendees to pick up. I also suggested that they can lay my book out on the table for anyone to look at. The last I heard, the article is also going to be published in the Glade in the upcoming future. So, all you who won't be able to attend the gene fest who want to know about publishing with Lulu, pay up your dues so you don't miss the article. :-) Anyway, again, I apologize, but this year I've taken a few hits with my health, and therefore did not commit myself to the gene fest this year. Between surgery for basel cell carcinoma on the nose, a possible torn meniscus in the knee (waiting to see if I need an MRI), and a sensitive tooth where I just had a crown put on two weeks ago, and a husband who will have our car at Gettysburg, PA this weekend... I just wanna stay home with the dog and cat, and nurse myself for a while. :-) But if anyone has any questions that aren't answered in the handout/article please feel free to contact me. Everything I know is in the article, but I'll try and see if I can help. BTW, I was told by the staff of the Ohio Civil War Genealogy Journal that my Letters from the Homefront, Geo. W. Tope of Patriot to his son Wm. G. Tope serving in the Union army will be published in one of the upcoming issues. I'm really excited about that! Thanks again, Linda. lindatrent@zoomnet.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:23 EDT From: Jokagal@aol.com Subject: [OHGALLIA] Thanks, Beth, for the migration discussion To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c0a.3ad00dd2.359269c7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks to all for the interesting and informative discussion on migration to Gallia County. I have always wondered why my 68 year old ancestor, Daniel Northup, would keep moving until he finally landed in Gallia County in 1806. Daniel was born in North Kingstown, Rhode Island. He served in the State Troops as a Sgt. during the Revolution, which from my research thus far indicates that he didn't leave RI during the Revolution but fought in the battles in RI. Somehow ca 1778 he married a widow from Caroline County, VA and moved to Botetourt County, VA as I find him 1782-1787 on the tax list there with 7 children and a slave. In 1791, his son, Hampton was captured by the Indians during a raid near the fort at Point Pleasant. Eventually the boy was returned to the family when they learned where he was from a travelling preacher. Next I know they are living in Marietta and he appears on the tax roll in 1800 which means that he came in 1795. Daniel was one of at least 8 children that I know of--and the last male born---he did not inherit anything from his father's estate and had no choice but to "tough it out" as a pioneer. Joanne Galvin Bloomfield, Michigan Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert, Baker, Rood **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:22:30 -0600 From: Marty Cassidy <marty@martincassidy.com> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA] migration To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <486181B6.600@martincassidy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Henny Evans wrote: > Marty, I'm curious now. When was that settlement in Jackson? My Cherringtons came here in 1805....plus I think everyone else related to them from Greenbrier and/or Monroe County. There were many of them. The father had grown sons already and he was around 60, so yes, why? > > Figure that the salt operation started about 1798 or 99. Folk that were there ended up in any of 4 counties when the lines were drawn and redrawn. I've not found any records of this place, but by "quaddrangling" early records, looking at The History of Hanging Rock, and some cemeteries one can deduce which families likely as not settled there first and were later identified with one of the counties. The family I work on, as you know, is the Rickabaughs. They came out of Pennsylvania and some moved to Virginia and were horsemen. Scant records put three brothers in the area of Jackson in 1803. Later, in 1810 and 1812 you see Adam and John in Gallia County, along with their sons. Another possible brother, Reuben, is found in Jackson records, and possibly another, Peter, is seen in Ross. This is all very circumstantial and speculative. But I find similar patterns with other families (Martin, Buffington, Graham, Dixon, others). The folks weren't looking to settle Gallia County, they were looking to make a living selling beef and horses to the salt industry; they just happened to find themselves in one county or the other when the lines were drawn later. Hope this helps a bit. -- Marty Cassidy On the Road, USA ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:29:13 -0600 From: Marty Cassidy <marty@martincassidy.com> Subject: [OHGALLIA] Admin Hat On Now To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <48618349.7020403@martincassidy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I see a massive number of subscribers being unsubscribed for refusing email from the list. They are all Roadroaner addresses (rr.com). For those of you in the midwest and maybe familiar with RR, I have a question: Didn't RR get bought out fairly recently, and users would have had to get new email addresses? If I'm right about that, I'll ignore the rejects and assume the subscribers have new email addresses and are getting what they want. Thanks. Thanks for the help. -- Marty Cassidy On the Road, USA ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:25:42 EDT From: Jokagal@aol.com Subject: [OHGALLIA] Scott Marriages in Gallia County--1888-1890 Thanks Beth Haney! To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c5a.3424507d.3592f896@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >From Gallia Co posting 1-20-02 SOURCE: www.ancestry.com Search Results Database: Ohio Marriages, 1803-1900 ALL are from Gallia County, Ohio Name Spouse Marriage Date SCOTT, CHARLES LEWIS, RACHEL 08 Oct 1888 SNOOK, HIRAM SCOTT, DEMA 05 Apr 1889 SCOTT, ALFRED R. McCARLEY, TUDIE 12 May 1889 LEWIS, JOHN SCOTT, BARBARA 24 Dec 1889 SCOTT, NIDAY A. DARST, MAYIE 03 Jul 1890 SCOTT, WINFIELD FLINT, MARY E. 19 Jul 1890 MOODY, ALEXANDER SCOTT, ANNIE 04 Dec 1890 **************Gas prices getting you down? 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SCOTT, ANDREW WEESE, MARY 19 Sep 1804 SCOTT, CHARLES DARST, MARY 10 Aug 1807 ALESHIRE, DAVID SCOTT, PEGGY 30 Mar 1809 DARST, MARTIN SCOTT, ISABELL 26 Apr 1810 DURST, BENJAMIN SCOTT, NANCY 24 Dec 1812 RUTHERFORD, JOHN SCOTT, SALLY 15 Jul 1813 SCOTT, THOMAS WEAVER, CHARLOTTE 17 Nov 1814 RUTHERFORD, EVANS SCOTT, ELIZABETH 06 Dec 1816 SCOTT, OLIVER HANNA, ROSSANNA 13 Oct 1822 DURST, ISOAL SCOTT, POLLY 27 Feb 1823 SCOTT, JOHN MOSSBARGER, PHEBE 30 Oct 1828 SCOTT, JOHN COLLINS, NELLIE 02 Dec 1830 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

>From Gallia Co posting 1-20-02 SOURCE: www.ancestry.com Search Results Database: Ohio Marriages, 1803-1900 ALL are from Gallia County, Ohio SCOTT, EUGENE L. SMITH, BESSIE M. 14 Mar 1900 WILLIAMS, ELMER A. SCOTT, MARY M. 17 Sep 1900 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

>From Gallia Co posting 1-20-02 SOURCE: www.ancestry.com Search Results Database: Ohio Marriages, 1803-1900 ALL are from Gallia County, Ohio SCOTT, MIDA H. . SWISHER, JENNIE A. 01 Jun 1895 SCOTT, WINFIELD PHILLIPS, SARAH E. 15 Aug 1895 SCOTT, GEORGE U. YOUNG, MARTHA J. 04 Sep 1895 SCOTT, LAFAYETTE VINEY, CORA BELLE 22 Sep 1895 SCOTT, JAMES H LEE, HATTIE 03 Jan 1896 SCOTT, EDWARD S. CAMPBELL, ADA 16 Jun 1896 SAUNDERS, JACOB SCOTT, MARSHA A. 12 Aug 1896 HIX, ELI N SCOTT, ANNA B. 12 Dec 1896 SCOTT, CLYDE B. TAYLOR, MABLE 20 Mar 1897 COLEMAN, ANDREW SCOTT, MARY J. 06 Oct 1897 MAYO, ELIJAH SCOTT, ALICE 23 Oct 1898 WATTS, JOHN A. C . SCOTT, CYNTHIA J. 15 Dec 1898 MOORE, AMOS SCOTT, MARTHA 22 Dec 1898 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

>From Gallia Co posting 1-20-02 SOURCE: www.ancestry.com Search Results Database: Ohio Marriages, 1803-1900 ALL are from Gallia County, Ohio SCOTT, MICHAEL VINEY, FLORA B. 15 Oct 1891 RIDDELL, RUSSELL C. SCOTT, MINNIE F. 20 Aug 1892 SCOTT, CHARLIE SMEDLEY, MAGGIE 02 Feb 1893 ROUSH, HORTON H. SCOTT, LAURA R. 03 Jul 1893 WILSON, SCOTT G. EDLER, ELLA A. 22 Nov 1893 SCOTT, FRANK GORDON, AUGUSTA 23 Aug 1894 WILSON, SCOTT W. DRUMMOND, OSA 12 Sep 1894 SCOTT, J. E. McLEISH, MAGGIE M. 15 Nov 1894 EVES, WILLIAM SCOTT, ELIZA 08 Jan 1895 SMITH, WILLARD G . SCOTT, SAVANNAH 04 May 1895 SCOTT, BERT SCOTT, LAURA 08 May 1895 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

>From Gallia Co posting 1-20-02 SOURCE: www.ancestry.com Search Results Database: Ohio Marriages, 1803-1900 ALL are from Gallia County, Ohio Name Spouse Marriage Date SCOTT, CHARLES LEWIS, RACHEL 08 Oct 1888 SNOOK, HIRAM SCOTT, DEMA 05 Apr 1889 SCOTT, ALFRED R. McCARLEY, TUDIE 12 May 1889 LEWIS, JOHN SCOTT, BARBARA 24 Dec 1889 SCOTT, NIDAY A. DARST, MAYIE 03 Jul 1890 SCOTT, WINFIELD FLINT, MARY E. 19 Jul 1890 MOODY, ALEXANDER SCOTT, ANNIE 04 Dec 1890 **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Marty, roadrunner changed quite some time ago in Texas everyone I know with that now gets e-mail at comcast.net take care, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marty Cassidy" <marty@martincassidy.com> To: <ohgallia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: [OHGALLIA] Admin Hat On Now >I see a massive number of subscribers being unsubscribed for refusing > email from the list. They are all Roadroaner addresses (rr.com). For > those of you in the midwest and maybe familiar with RR, I have a question: > > Didn't RR get bought out fairly recently, and users would have had to > get new email addresses? If I'm right about that, I'll ignore the > rejects and assume the subscribers have new email addresses and are > getting what they want. > > Thanks. > > Thanks for the help. > > -- > Marty Cassidy > On the Road, USA > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, Marty it does. Most interesting. This past weekend the Childers Family Reunion was held here and they invited one of us to come to dinner and speak to them. Turns out that Rickabaugh is a major part of their group as well....the head of the reunion descends from John. Henny

I see a massive number of subscribers being unsubscribed for refusing email from the list. They are all Roadroaner addresses (rr.com). For those of you in the midwest and maybe familiar with RR, I have a question: Didn't RR get bought out fairly recently, and users would have had to get new email addresses? If I'm right about that, I'll ignore the rejects and assume the subscribers have new email addresses and are getting what they want. Thanks. Thanks for the help. -- Marty Cassidy On the Road, USA

Henny Evans wrote: > Marty, I'm curious now. When was that settlement in Jackson? My Cherringtons came here in 1805....plus I think everyone else related to them from Greenbrier and/or Monroe County. There were many of them. The father had grown sons already and he was around 60, so yes, why? > > Figure that the salt operation started about 1798 or 99. Folk that were there ended up in any of 4 counties when the lines were drawn and redrawn. I've not found any records of this place, but by "quaddrangling" early records, looking at The History of Hanging Rock, and some cemeteries one can deduce which families likely as not settled there first and were later identified with one of the counties. The family I work on, as you know, is the Rickabaughs. They came out of Pennsylvania and some moved to Virginia and were horsemen. Scant records put three brothers in the area of Jackson in 1803. Later, in 1810 and 1812 you see Adam and John in Gallia County, along with their sons. Another possible brother, Reuben, is found in Jackson records, and possibly another, Peter, is seen in Ross. This is all very circumstantial and speculative. But I find similar patterns with other families (Martin, Buffington, Graham, Dixon, others). The folks weren't looking to settle Gallia County, they were looking to make a living selling beef and horses to the salt industry; they just happened to find themselves in one county or the other when the lines were drawn later. Hope this helps a bit. -- Marty Cassidy On the Road, USA

Thanks to all for the interesting and informative discussion on migration to Gallia County. I have always wondered why my 68 year old ancestor, Daniel Northup, would keep moving until he finally landed in Gallia County in 1806. Daniel was born in North Kingstown, Rhode Island. He served in the State Troops as a Sgt. during the Revolution, which from my research thus far indicates that he didn't leave RI during the Revolution but fought in the battles in RI. Somehow ca 1778 he married a widow from Caroline County, VA and moved to Botetourt County, VA as I find him 1782-1787 on the tax list there with 7 children and a slave. In 1791, his son, Hampton was captured by the Indians during a raid near the fort at Point Pleasant. Eventually the boy was returned to the family when they learned where he was from a travelling preacher. Next I know they are living in Marietta and he appears on the tax roll in 1800 which means that he came in 1795. Daniel was one of at least 8 children that I know of--and the last male born---he did not inherit anything from his father's estate and had no choice but to "tough it out" as a pioneer. Joanne Galvin Bloomfield, Michigan Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert, Baker, Rood **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Fife > display and information tables; ... > covering such topics as Publishing with Lulu, Unfortunately, I am unable to do the "Publishing with Lulu" table this year. Instead, I sent Mary Lee a Word document that contains everything I know about it and have given them permission to copy it and put it on a table for attendees to pick up. I also suggested that they can lay my book out on the table for anyone to look at. The last I heard, the article is also going to be published in the Glade in the upcoming future. So, all you who won't be able to attend the gene fest who want to know about publishing with Lulu, pay up your dues so you don't miss the article. :-) Anyway, again, I apologize, but this year I've taken a few hits with my health, and therefore did not commit myself to the gene fest this year. Between surgery for basel cell carcinoma on the nose, a possible torn meniscus in the knee (waiting to see if I need an MRI), and a sensitive tooth where I just had a crown put on two weeks ago, and a husband who will have our car at Gettysburg, PA this weekend... I just wanna stay home with the dog and cat, and nurse myself for a while. :-) But if anyone has any questions that aren't answered in the handout/article please feel free to contact me. Everything I know is in the article, but I'll try and see if I can help. BTW, I was told by the staff of the Ohio Civil War Genealogy Journal that my Letters from the Homefront, Geo. W. Tope of Patriot to his son Wm. G. Tope serving in the Union army will be published in one of the upcoming issues. I'm really excited about that! Thanks again, Linda. lindatrent@zoomnet.net

> river traffic supplied all the wants and necessities of the civilized > world. New York, Pittsburg, New Orleans, etc. Leave it to my husband to always have another answer. :-) Yep, not only did the Ohio bring things to Gallia County, but it also took things from Gallia County. All those farmers with crops and livestock had a means of getting their things to market, and the river was much easier than overland through the mountains. The National Road (US Rte. 40) was one of the first improved roads in the US, and it wasn't started until 1811, and didn't reach Wheeling until 1818. So we're talking pretty primative to anything we're used to by today's standard. Linda.

I think a lot of what opened up the entire Ohio territory was the end of the Battle of Fallen Timbers and the Treaty of Greenville. With the evacuation of the Indians from all but the extreme sections of NW Ohio, the northern, eastern and southern sections of the state were opened up to white settlement. In the earliest days there weren't many roads, mostly just old Indian trails and such, and many of those ran through Virginia and into southern Ohio. I wonder if many of our ancestors just settled in the first place they came to once they crossed into the Ohio territory. And not only that, but they were probably aware of the fact that the Ohio was to be the center of their commerce world for decades to come. The railroad did not actually enter Gallipolis until post Civil War, and the canal came down to Portsmouth. In some instances we may never know what really brought our ancestors here, but even if they didn't come with other family, perhaps they came with friends, or not so near relatives that we just haven't found the connection to, yet. The other thing is that once people arrived in a specific location they tended to write home, many wrote home telling about the wonderful soil, and about large tracts of farmland for sale, or the fact that it wasn't as frontier as many thought because river traffic supplied all the wants and necessities of the civilized world. New York, Pittsburg, New Orleans, etc. These letters were generally shared with family and friends of the recipient and thus again people chose to move to better their position in whatever area they were interested in (better farmland, social connections, commerce, etc). Personally, I don't think age really made that much of a difference, especially if the newcomer was moving into the town rather than the country. Being a river town, Gallipolis winters far better than the mountains of western Virginia (think Snowshoe ski resort in Pocahontas County), as well as the mountainous terrain of Greenbriar and Monroe County. Unless one likes to ski, Gallia County is much nicer in the winter. :-) If one looks at the Virginia Formation maps for various years one'll see that Monroe, Greenbriar, Bath, and Botetourt, and Augusta Counties were all formed (though still changing boundaries), and those are all the counties that most of us can connect back to through our Gallia ancestors. Allegheny County didn't come into existance until 1822. http://www.familyhistory101.com/maps/va_cf.html Most of those counties connected up with the various trails that lead into the once forbidden lands, prior to the great American war for Independence. There are so many reasons why our ancestors might have moved, and I pretty much gave up speculating on that once we set sail for America. Linda

Thanks much, Diana! Morris -----Original Message----- From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diana M Cronhardt Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:23 AM To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [OHGALLIA] William Williams and Mary Watts Hi Morris, I have checked all my Williams files and found nothing that will help you. This is all I found that was close. HARDESTY'S HISTORICAL AND GEOGRAPHICAL ENCYCLOPEDIA,by Henry H Hardesty, New York, 1884 Transcribed and submitted br Ed Johnson,EDEAJ@aol.com Waitman T. W. Williams born 7 Sept 1866 , Pocahontas, (West) Virginia. Sorry. I will keep my eyes open. Diana On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:27:48 -0700 "Morris A. Johnson" <johnson1550@wbhsi.net> writes: > Diana, Eliza E. Williams (b. 2 Oct 1842, Washington Co., OH, d. 22 > Jul 1903, > Wakita, OK) was my great grandmother. I believe she was the daughter > of > Watkin Williams (b. 1793) but I'm not sure. Watkin was from Wales, > and > Ancestry.com has several hits, but nothing I can hang on to. > > If there is any relationship, William Williams and Mary Watts would > have > been from the previous generation. > > What do you think? > > Morris Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ohgallia-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Diana M Cronhardt > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 7:43 AM > To: wvgreenb-l@rootsweb.com; OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [!! SPAM] [OHGALLIA] William Williams and Mary Watts > > I was wondering if any one was related to the Williams family. > William > Williams, born 1757 and Mary Watts, born 1776 were married in > Greenbrier, 21 May 1795. I have a lot of information on Mary Watts > family but very little on Williams family before he arrived in > Greenbrier. > WILLIAM WILLIAMS-William Williams entered the service from > Botetourt > County, Virginia in the spring of 1780. He was under Col. Campbell > and > they joined the troops at Hillsborough, North Carlolina on the day > that > Col.Green took command. He served eighteen months before he was > discharged. He was in the battles of Camden & Guilford and at the > Seige > of Nine-Six. He served wholly in North Carolina and South Carolinas. > He > sold his discharge to Samuel Price and William McClung for four or > five > gallons of whiskey. William made application for his pension 13 Aug > 1832 > while a resident of Walnut Township,Gallia County. His claim was > allowed. > > William was born in Fairfax County, Virginia 17 Sep 1757. He > enlisted in > Botetourt County and lived in Greenbrier County, Virginia until 1817 > when > he moved to Gallia County, Ohio. William married Mary Watts 21 May > 1795 > in Greenbrier County, Virginia. She was born 20 Nov 1779 in > Greenbrier > County, Virginia and died 25 Dec 1860 in Gallia County, Ohio. She > made > application for a pension 13 June 1850 and it was executed. William > died > 23 Aug 1832 in Walnut Township and is buried at Bethesda Cemetery, > Walnut > Township, Gallia County. > > > > > > > I have been trying to > find > his parents and his siblings for years. William Williams and Mary > Watts > are my great3 grandparents. > Diana Cronhardt > Borrego Springs, CA > 760-767-4248 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Summer Spa Sweepstakes > Enter for your chance to WIN a Summer Spa Vacation! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UbfChSm1MgDxSzevMaafj Hq2 > 8fM9lDv2hSB1TsI61GBVE4/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ____________________________________________________________ Smart Girls Secret Weapon Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews, Get Helpful Tips, Tricks and Sam http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7U3xQufaGrhRw2mwrv8U3YP73 vKPNXLEdWlS6BdJDz5C5CL/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jerry Several of you Williams are in my family. Are you related to any of these in red? Diana On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:21:56 -0400 "Gerald Deckard" <gdeckard@cox.net> writes: > Diana, > > The Williams in my system are shown below. > > Jerry > > Individual List - 23 Jun 2008 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > WILLIAMS, Allison-1534 (F) > WILLIAMS, Alonzo-945 (M) Related > Birth 1866 > Death 1943 (age 77) > Marriage Maggie Jane Clark > WILLIAMS, Barbara-1373 (F) > Birth 1940 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Beverly Jane-1380 (F) > Birth 1932 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Cara L.-1471 (F) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Carrie Ann-1537 (F) > WILLIAMS, Charles-1185 (M) > Birth 27 Dec 1871 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA > WILLIAMS, Charles M.-943 (M) > Birth 1860 > WILLIAMS, Chauncy-1187 (M) > Birth 28 Apr 1878 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA > WILLIAMS, Clella Pearl-1240 (F) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Clifford Edgar-1371 (M) > Birth 1935 > Marriage > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Comfort-2542 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Cornie-1948 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Dale-1271 (M) I have an Aunt Dale daughter of Dr.Alfred Jamison Williams > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Daniel-1535 (M) > WILLIAMS, David-1184 (M) > Birth 17 May 1870 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA > WILLIAMS, Dean A.-1473 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Deborah L.-2455 (F) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Edna C.-1267 (F) > Birth May 1892 in , , IL, USA > WILLIAMS, Ella Rea-1273 (F) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Elmer C.-1266 (M) > Birth 26 Feb 1881 in , , IL, USA > WILLIAMS, Elmer Elsworth-944 (M) > Birth bet 1863 and 65 > WILLIAMS, Emery-1238 (M) > WILLIAMS, Flora E.-996 (F) Related Daughter of William J Williams and Rachel Morgan. Granddaughter of > Birth 31 Oct 1856 in Wapello, Louisa, IA, USA William Williams and Mary Watts > Death 1904 in Rio Grande, Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 48) > Burial 1904 in Rio Grande, Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 48) > Marriage 11 Jun 1878 in Rio Grande, Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age > 21) > WILLIAMS, Frank C.-1243 (M) > Birth 1902 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, George Washington-937 (M) > Birth Nov 1856 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA > Misc George Willima dog severely bites James McCormick; Apr 1906 > (age 49) > Marriage 19 Dec 1876 in , Clay, IL, USA (age 20) > Marriage 26 Oct 1890 in , Clay, IL, USA (age 33) > WILLIAMS, Harry Valbert-1244 (M) > Birth 1908 > Death 1964 (age 56) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Henry Lafayette-932 (M) Maybe the son of John D. Williams > Birth 1847 > Death 1922 (age 75) > Marriage > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Ira H.-934 (M) > Birth 1851 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Jamie Lee-1538 (F) > WILLIAMS, John-805 (M) > Marriage > Residence (fam) , Greenbrier, WV, USA > WILLIAMS, John-1188 (M) > Birth 31 Oct 1880 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA > WILLIAMS, John E.-1183 (M) > Marriage 10 Aug 1869 in Huntington, Gallia, OH, USA > WILLIAMS, John M.-946 (M) Related Son of James Waddell Williams and Mary Mc Cerroll, Grandson of James Williams > Birth 1869 and Catherine Waddell > WILLIAMS, Kathleen-1476 (F) > Birth 1954 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Keren Lee-1374 (F) > Birth 1942 > WILLIAMS, Kyle-1533 (M) > WILLIAMS, Larry Gene-1381 (M) > WILLIAMS, Lydia Margaret-938 (F) > Birth 1857 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Margaret Elllen (Maggie)-3278 (F) > Birth 1898 in Wellston, Jackson, OH, USA > Death 8 Feb 1968 in , Vinton, OH, USA (age 70) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Mary Ellen-936 (F) > Birth 1855 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Mary M.-1239 (F) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Marylou Jean-1372 (F) > Birth 1936 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Maurice Clark-1270 (M) > Birth 1902 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Nathan H.-931 (M) Sp. Melissa Eagle Related maybe. > Birth 20 Jun 1820 in Frankford, Greenbrier, VA, USA > Death 5 Aug 1908 in Sailor Springs, Clay, IL, USA (age 88) > Burial Pixley, Clay, IL, USA > Marriage 1 Jan 1847 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 26) > WILLIAMS, Nellie Cletus-1268 (F) > Birth 12 Aug 1899 in , , IL, USA > WILLIAMS, Norman-1369 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Oscar-1265 (M) > Birth 5 Nov 1879 in , , IL, USA > WILLIAMS, Randy Wayne-1477 (M) > Birth 1958 > WILLIAMS, Reece A.-940 (M) > Birth 1860 > Marriage > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Rose Eunice-1186 (F) > Birth 17 Feb 1875 in Morgan, Gallia, OH, USA > WILLIAMS, Steve-1470 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Susanna-804 (F) Related daughter of John Williams Jr and Mary Parkins of Greenbrier > Birth 20 Jul 1788 in , Greenbrier, WV, USA > Religion Joined M. E. Church; 1803 (age 15) > Immigration 1813 in Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA (age 25) > Death cancer of the stomach and liver; 23 Jul 1864 in Raccoon, > Gallia, OH, > USA (age 76) > Burial Raccoon, Gallia, OH, USA > Marriage 20 Aug 1812 in , Greenbrier, WV, USA (age 24) > WILLIAMS, Verde D.-1241 (M) > Birth 1895 > Marriage > WILLIAMS, Virginia Geraldine-1638 (F) > Birth 31 Dec 1926 > Death Cancer; 18 Jul 1996 in Point Pleasant, Mason, WV, USA (age > 69) > Marriage 7 Sep 1947 in Russell, Greenup, KY (age 20) > WILLIAMS, William-999 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, William H.-1950 (M) > Marriage > WILLIAMS, William H.-933 (M) > Birth 1850 > Death 1867 (age 17) > > > Prepared by: > Gera;d A. 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Beth, ??? Also people migrated to get a fresh start and various conservative religious groups may have motivated people to leave. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: Beth Haney <bhaney@speakeasy.net> To: ohgallia@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 9:32 pm Subject: [OHGALLIA] Apologies! My overly protective ISP's spam trap snagged several of the responses people had posted to my question about migrations. I think the "answer" to my question is that there is no particular reason, other than possibly a desire for fresh land and joining family members that had already moved into southeastern Ohio. At least now I know I didn't miss anything of earth shattering importance. Thank you everybody! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Why leave Monore county ? I am reminded of what Will Rogers once said about the pioneers: "You know, we're always talking about pioneers and what great folks the old pioneers were. Well, I think if we just stopped and looked at history in the face, the pioneer wasn't a thing in the world but a guy that wanted something for nothing." In other words, many left "home" because the soil was dead, used up, and there was acres and acres of "free" land elsewhere. Later pioneers would leave Ohio and move west for the same reasons.

Marty, I'm curious now. When was that settlement in Jackson? My Cherringtons came here in 1805....plus I think everyone else related to them from Greenbrier and/or Monroe County. There were many of them. The father had grown sons already and he was around 60, so yes, why? As everyone knows the French settled here in 1790. But it wasn't long before the Welsh, Germans, New Englanders, Virginias and Carolinians followed suit. As Gallia was owned by the Scioto Company or so it was thought, not too many soldiers ever received bounty land here. In fact, in over 30 years of searching I found only one deed that was bounty land and I don't think it was even for the Revolutionary War. I wish I knew where I put that!! The Ohio Company was organized in Boston to attract Revolutionary soldiers to the area. Many of them went to Marietta. Then the scheme with the Scioto Co. developed and all the while the Ohio Co. still owned the land. Henny

I know I said I was done for the evening, but I lie sometimes. As far as I can tell, these particular people didn't get free land. There are records of purchases of property in Gallia county from BLM. I think the going rate at that time was $1.25 per acre, but the records don't state a dollar amount, only a legal description and the acreage. S Edwards wrote: > I think free is relative. While they may have moved west to land that didn't have a cost in dollars....... the act of leaving extended family and settled communities and moving into the unknown.... is a cost in and of itself. They weren't moving to an area that was ready to farm or had living accommodations...... there was a lot of WORK involved in establishing a home and a working farm that would support them. > > While the land may have been free...... the other costs were huge. Yes, they were looking for a better life, but aren't we still doing that today.... just in different ways. > > SueEd > > > --- On Mon, 6/23/08, Charlie Hazlett <charlie@hazlett.net> wrote: > > >> Well, I think if we just stopped and >> looked at >> history in the face, the pioneer wasn't a thing in the >> world but a guy >> that wanted something for nothing." >> >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to OHGALLIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >