Joyce, no, I don't think so. Send it privately. Did you also want copies? Henny > >
You are very right. Let's hope that we inherited their grit and determination. Now I know what my grandmother meant when she said that I came from hardy stock! She was very proud of her heritage and never forgot that she came from Gallia County. Joanne
I agree completely, it was not easy, even free didn't make it easy, just more appealing. I did not mean to demean our ancestors or the achivements they made, for without those achivements what a fine mess we could be in today..... On 3/16/2005, "Jokagal@aol.com" <Jokagal@aol.com> wrote: >Very true, but that is easy to say in 2005 with crop rotation and modern >farm equipment, fertilizers and County Extension Agents! In those days, they >had to hack it out of the wilderness sometimes dealing with hostile Native >Americans at the same time. I still take my hat off to them all--life was hard >then. I think of that everytime it takes me two hours to cook a meal on an >open fire at camp. (I am a Girl Scout volunteer) > > > >Joanne Galvin > >Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, >Berrridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert > > >==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== >Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. >
Very true, but that is easy to say in 2005 with crop rotation and modern farm equipment, fertilizers and County Extension Agents! In those days, they had to hack it out of the wilderness sometimes dealing with hostile Native Americans at the same time. I still take my hat off to them all--life was hard then. I think of that everytime it takes me two hours to cook a meal on an open fire at camp. (I am a Girl Scout volunteer) Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berrridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert
Hooray! Thank you so much! This will help answer so many questions. Diane
Yes, Henny I would love to have a copy. My address is Joyce Hagerty 2455 Knox Road 700 East Oneida, Illinois 61467 I will, of course, reimburse you for your time, postage and copying. We corresponded some time ago about the Harrington line. I have been able to track down a lot of the descendants of the Gallia County lines...some of them even settled here in Illinois. Thanks again. Joyce -----Original Message----- From: Henny Evans [mailto:hcevans@eurekanet.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:02 PM To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper Joyce, no, I don't think so. Send it privately. Did you also want copies? Henny > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Please keep your topic related to genealogical research in Gallia County, Ohio.
Henny Thanks from me, too. Do you have my address? Joyce -----Original Message----- From: mcnab2000@aol.com [mailto:mcnab2000@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:16 AM To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper Thank you Henny, your a peach! -----Original Message----- From: Henny Evans <hcevans@eurekanet.com> To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:04:03 -0500 Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper To all of the Cooper researchers, especially Debra, Diane and Joyce. Death records show that Leather Cooper died 12 Apr 1885. Vol. 1, p. 188. I took a chance that this was Aleatha/Leatha and looked for the obits as I had promised to do for one of you. Anyway, there are two death notices, one in the Journal and one in the Bulletin. The Bulletin shows that she died at her son-in-law's William Betz. She was 65 and buried near Yellowtown. The Journal added that she was also the mother-in-law of Jacob White. I checked marriages and found that Rebecca married Jacob White and that Lotta (Charlotte) married William Betz. Plus in Civil Journal A, I noticed that Jacob was the administrator of John. It may well be that his final estate was not filed until after the death of his widow for any of various reasons. Henny Evans PS Copies in the mail today. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message.
In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: The marriage is recorded in Gallia Co. It's at the court house if you need me to get it for you or you can write directly to Probate Ct. It should have parents' info and ages, even if wrong, on them, but probably no details. Henny Evans Thank you, Henny, that is a wonderful offer! Yes, I would like to have it IN COLOR, if possible (I got some from Greenbrier County Historical Society that way and they are super). I will be interested in how old they claimed to be! It will help on my First Families application, as well. If you can find the one for Moses Gates and Harriet Baltzel (Baltzed, I believe it may have been misspelled) about a hundred years before, I would like that one, as well. I will pay you handsomely for them! Thanks again! Sharon Lee Gates 1476 Glenmore Drive Apopka, FL 32712-2046 Telephone: 407-814-9644 Telefax: 407-814-9645 Mobile phone: 407-375-9644
Thank you Henny, your a peach! -----Original Message----- From: Henny Evans <hcevans@eurekanet.com> To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:04:03 -0500 Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper To all of the Cooper researchers, especially Debra, Diane and Joyce. Death records show that Leather Cooper died 12 Apr 1885. Vol. 1, p. 188. I took a chance that this was Aleatha/Leatha and looked for the obits as I had promised to do for one of you. Anyway, there are two death notices, one in the Journal and one in the Bulletin. The Bulletin shows that she died at her son-in-law's William Betz. She was 65 and buried near Yellowtown. The Journal added that she was also the mother-in-law of Jacob White. I checked marriages and found that Rebecca married Jacob White and that Lotta (Charlotte) married William Betz. Plus in Civil Journal A, I noticed that Jacob was the administrator of John. It may well be that his final estate was not filed until after the death of his widow for any of various reasons. Henny Evans PS Copies in the mail today. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message.
Thanks, the hard copy of the Peter Cornell will goes in the mail today as requested. Was happy to do this for you. Henny Evans
To all of the Cooper researchers, especially Debra, Diane and Joyce. Death records show that Leather Cooper died 12 Apr 1885. Vol. 1, p. 188. I took a chance that this was Aleatha/Leatha and looked for the obits as I had promised to do for one of you. Anyway, there are two death notices, one in the Journal and one in the Bulletin. The Bulletin shows that she died at her son-in-law's William Betz. She was 65 and buried near Yellowtown. The Journal added that she was also the mother-in-law of Jacob White. I checked marriages and found that Rebecca married Jacob White and that Lotta (Charlotte) married William Betz. Plus in Civil Journal A, I noticed that Jacob was the administrator of John. It may well be that his final estate was not filed until after the death of his widow for any of various reasons. Henny Evans PS Copies in the mail today.
Yes, Barbara, I believe that the marriage is found as Lotta Betz but due to the fact that William Betz is named as a son-in-law in Letha's death notice I would say that is absolutely correct. Henny Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: "BarbaraA" <baha@nexet.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Estate of John Cooper > >>On John Cooper, did his daughter marry a Betz << > > > I have a Charlotte Cooper born 1860 who married William Betz in 1884. > > Is Charlotte a daughter of John Cooper? > > Barbara > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. > > >
Interesting! I was just looking at it from a monetary point of view. A dollar barely gets us a pack of gum these days, but for those in 1839...I wasn't sure. But that seems like a very good explanation of why just a $1.00. -----Original Message----- From: juanita <juanita2@cox.net> To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:07:28 -0600 Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] $1.00 in 1839 vs. today Mentioning someone in a Will and giving them $1.00 is/was a legal maneuver, I believe, to indicate to a court that the person mentioned was not forgotten at the time the Will was being drawn up. I read a discussion about this that said heirs to an estate could not claim in Court, or protest a Will, that their benefactor had forgotten them. $1.00 made the transaction legal. Maybe the ancestor who was given $1.00 and the "money your husband owes me" was considered enough of his share of any inheritance. No doubt someone else can explain this better, but this is what I understand. juanita > In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > X-Message: #26 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:31:55 EST > From: McNab2000@aol.com > To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ff.f502649.2f68f49b@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: Peter's Cornell's Will > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Just out of curiosity, how much would a $1.00 have taken a person in > 1839? > > I looked it up at _www.westegg.com_ (http://www.westegg.com) and it > is very interesting. What cost $1.00 in 1839 would cost $16.49 in > 2003. (there are no figures for 2004 yet) Obviously, they either got > their inheritance early or they were intentionally cut out of their > father's will. I have an early German ancestor, Gaspar Link, in the > Shenandoah Valley who left his daughter, my foremother, as well as > his other daughter, her sister, who married no-account Harless > brothers, "$1.00 and the money your husband owes me!" Her husband, > my forefather, disappeared, was thought to have been killed by > Indians, but turned up two counties away with a wife and several more > children! Ha ha! Later,the other brother was caught passing > counterfeit gold coins in Pearisburg!! So, no wonder the old man was > angry! > > > > > > Sharon Lee Gates > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Please keep your topic related to genealogical research in Gallia County, Ohio.
Mentioning someone in a Will and giving them $1.00 is/was a legal maneuver, I believe, to indicate to a court that the person mentioned was not forgotten at the time the Will was being drawn up. I read a discussion about this that said heirs to an estate could not claim in Court, or protest a Will, that their benefactor had forgotten them. $1.00 made the transaction legal. Maybe the ancestor who was given $1.00 and the "money your husband owes me" was considered enough of his share of any inheritance. No doubt someone else can explain this better, but this is what I understand. juanita > In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > X-Message: #26 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:31:55 EST > From: McNab2000@aol.com > To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ff.f502649.2f68f49b@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: Peter's Cornell's Will > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Just out of curiosity, how much would a $1.00 have taken a person in > 1839? > > I looked it up at _www.westegg.com_ (http://www.westegg.com) and it > is very interesting. What cost $1.00 in 1839 would cost $16.49 in > 2003. (there are no figures for 2004 yet) Obviously, they either got > their inheritance early or they were intentionally cut out of their > father's will. I have an early German ancestor, Gaspar Link, in the > Shenandoah Valley who left his daughter, my foremother, as well as > his other daughter, her sister, who married no-account Harless > brothers, "$1.00 and the money your husband owes me!" Her husband, > my forefather, disappeared, was thought to have been killed by > Indians, but turned up two counties away with a wife and several more > children! Ha ha! Later,the other brother was caught passing > counterfeit gold coins in Pearisburg!! So, no wonder the old man was > angry! > > > > > > Sharon Lee Gates > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. >
The family lived in Addison Twp. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte R. Mitchell" <rosebud@horizonview.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: puzzle, William JOHNSTON > Denise and other listers, would you have any idea whether or not this > William JOHNSTON is related to (possibly the father of) my Margaret JOHNSTON > who was born in Gallia County on December 23, 1825 and married John ROSE in > Gallia County on May 14, 1844? I have no ancestors listed at all for > Margaret and would really like to know more about her since she was my > great, great grandmother. She died December 4, 1908 and was buried in > Gallia Baptist Cemetery, formerly known as Dry Ridge. Thank you. > > From: "Denise Ashleman" <saultz@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Fw: puzzle > > JOHNSTON - WILLIAM JOHNSTON married RACHEL CARTER, Gallia 1824, > information on RACHEL CARTER JOHNSTON, date andplace of birth, siblings, > parents, etc. > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > If you want to unsubscribe to the list, send an email to OHGALLIA-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the text of the email. >
Yes, it is her mother and father. the 1840 census shows that both Rachel and William were born in Pennsylvania. William is 50 and Rachel, looks like 49. Denise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte R. Mitchell" <rosebud@horizonview.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:18 PM Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: puzzle, William JOHNSTON > Denise and other listers, would you have any idea whether or not this > William JOHNSTON is related to (possibly the father of) my Margaret JOHNSTON > who was born in Gallia County on December 23, 1825 and married John ROSE in > Gallia County on May 14, 1844? I have no ancestors listed at all for > Margaret and would really like to know more about her since she was my > great, great grandmother. She died December 4, 1908 and was buried in > Gallia Baptist Cemetery, formerly known as Dry Ridge. Thank you. > > From: "Denise Ashleman" <saultz@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Fw: puzzle > > JOHNSTON - WILLIAM JOHNSTON married RACHEL CARTER, Gallia 1824, > information on RACHEL CARTER JOHNSTON, date andplace of birth, siblings, > parents, etc. > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > If you want to unsubscribe to the list, send an email to OHGALLIA-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the text of the email. >
Denise and other listers, would you have any idea whether or not this William JOHNSTON is related to (possibly the father of) my Margaret JOHNSTON who was born in Gallia County on December 23, 1825 and married John ROSE in Gallia County on May 14, 1844? I have no ancestors listed at all for Margaret and would really like to know more about her since she was my great, great grandmother. She died December 4, 1908 and was buried in Gallia Baptist Cemetery, formerly known as Dry Ridge. Thank you. From: "Denise Ashleman" <saultz@bellsouth.net> Subject: Fw: puzzle > JOHNSTON - WILLIAM JOHNSTON married RACHEL CARTER, Gallia 1824, information on RACHEL CARTER JOHNSTON, date andplace of birth, siblings, parents, etc.
> > Does anyone have any information on John L. Armstrong or Robert Armstrong and Mary Armstrong? I found documentation of transfer of property to John Carter for Dower rights > in 1835. Issac Carter married Alice Armstrong 10 years before that and I Issac, nor Alice are mentioned. > Thanks, Denise > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > The Gallia County Historical and Genealogical Society > offers memberships and publications at: > 412 Second Avenue > Gallipolis, OH 45631 > 740-446-7200 > histsoc@zoomnet.net >
In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: X-Message: #26 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:31:55 EST From: McNab2000@aol.com To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ff.f502649.2f68f49b@aol.com> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: Peter's Cornell's Will Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Just out of curiosity, how much would a $1.00 have taken a person in 1839? I looked it up at _www.westegg.com_ (http://www.westegg.com) and it is very interesting. What cost $1.00 in 1839 would cost $16.49 in 2003. (there are no figures for 2004 yet) Obviously, they either got their inheritance early or they were intentionally cut out of their father's will. I have an early German ancestor, Gaspar Link, in the Shenandoah Valley who left his daughter, my foremother, as well as his other daughter, her sister, who married no-account Harless brothers, "$1.00 and the money your husband owes me!" Her husband, my forefather, disappeared, was thought to have been killed by Indians, but turned up two counties away with a wife and several more children! Ha ha! Later,the other brother was caught passing counterfeit gold coins in Pearisburg!! So, no wonder the old man was angry! Sharon Lee Gates
Ok, thanks for that bit of info, didn't seem right. I've known people who have done that same, in my husband's family. Even set up with a trust they'd want more. Lawyers ended up getting it all! In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:35:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time, trayne1837inc@yahoo.com writes: Debra John C.Cooper was listed in the ones that would get money once the land was sold. It could be that he didn't want to be a part of the suit. I know that lots of times people would much rather not get involved when a will is contested.. I had an aunt that died and left certain people money. Two of my cousins contested the will, they ended up with nothing but egg on their face. Could be that John C. didn't want any part of it. Cheryl