Denise, I've copied below a message from June 2004 from Edna Stobart to the Gallia Co. list re: Robert Armstrong. It was sent from this address: FitzFlashback@webtv.net Herma > Does anyone have any information on John L. Armstrong or Robert Armstrong and Mary Armstrong? I found documentation of transfer of property to John Carter for Dower rights > in 1835. Issac Carter married Alice Armstrong 10 years before that and I Issac, nor Alice are mentioned. > Thanks, Denise >Dee, ARMSTRONG 1811 Robert Armstrong is listed among the first settlers of Patriot. He was appointed Clerk in 1816. An Alice Armstrong married Isaac Carter. (no date given) The Methodist parsonage stands where the early property of Robert Armstrong once stood. Mahala B. Armstrong married David M. Gates. Their home was a long, low white house nestled under trees, almost against a hillside. Their children were, Jerusha A., Mary E., James R., Minerva C., Joseph P., Stephen, Albert V., John M., Howard M., Irene C., Alice L., Franklin S., and Anna B. Altho across in Walnut Township, this home was definitely part of Patriot where parents and children intermingled in church, business and social activities. The daughters of Mahala Armstrong and David Gates inherited an artistic thrift, and Miss Irene painted quite well. Anna Simmerman adds: Unfortunate it is that she did not leave us more pictures, both work and canvas. The Robert Armstrong home was eventually purchased by the Simmermans and they operated it as a hotel. Robert Armstrong was the probable builder of the John A. Davis home. He also possibly built the Union House (Hotel) and was the early hotel keeper.(before 1865) The Armstrongs were Baptist church members. Before 1827 Robert Armstrong taught a school of about fifteen pupils in a small cabin located on the original John Carter farm near the Koontz Bridge. Hope this is helpful.

A couple of things I like to consider when there is no will are land records and chancery suits. The chancery suit is often a friendly lawsuit filed by one heir against another to get the ball rolling or to get the land divided among the heirs. Usually you will find all the heirs and their locale in such a suit. Henny Evans

I looked these up the other day hunting for Cooper connections and some of you may want the information. Rebecca J. Cooper m. Jacob White...13 Oct 1859. Ceremony by Jesse Ingels. Vol. 2, p. 398 Lotta (believe this is Charlotte) Cooper m William W. Betz 29 Jul 1884 Ceremony by W.H. Lewis Vol. 6, p. 18

Joyce and Diane Did you get the obit that I scanned and sent to you. Cheryl Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Many times when someone receives just a $1 or a token, it will say right in the will that that person has already been taken care of by property or a note will be forgiven. Henny

This is great information to have. When I get back down to Gallia I am most certainly going to be checking court materials. Debra

I also have a few Grahams in my family (on two different lines) and listed in my father-in-laws family. Not alot but will look and see what I do have and share. None of these Graham's are a direct line so they are not entered into my Family Tree Maker but I believe I know where they are located. I am thinking one of these lines have a Joseph and maybe David in them. I looked at my father-in-laws tree and the only Graham's are Phillip Graham-no information except married to Eleanor and daughter Mary Ann Graham born 7 Nov 1803, Shenandoah Co., Va and died 3 August 1887 in Perry Twp., Gallia County, Ohio. Mary Ann Graham was married to Noah Wood, 20 Sept 1824. It also list their 12 children, I don't have the sources entered into my computer but I have volumes on information in files, just need to find the correct book. Marjorie L. Wood President, Gallia County Genealogical Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Hitchings" <conniehitchings@worldnet.att.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: OHGALLIA-D Digest V05 #79 > I also am looking for that connection of the other GRAHAMs and Joseph GRAHAM > in Meigs County. I was told that brothers came to Ohio, one settled in > Gallia and one in Meigs. I can't find the information now to give you a > source for that. But I was also told there is connection to the name Grimes. > I know this isn't giving you any help, but maybe a clue. On the 1820 census > David GRAHAM had a son under 5 years old. Who was that son? Either I have > missed something or that son could have been Joseph, they both lived in > Columbia twp. Meigs County. I know the rest of my GRAHAM family lived close > and was friendly with the other GRAHAMs in the area. Joseph owned land, > listed as JJ GRAHAM. What does the other J stand for? I keep thinking that > maybe other records for him is under another name and not under Joseph. I > can't get to Pomeroy Court house, but hope to someday. I would like to > follow the property deeds to see who got Josephs land after his death. > Maybe his children, but just maybe not, then there would be another clue. I > know others have traced the GRAHAM family, has anyone already done this? > Has anyone looked at the wills? Does he show up anywhere besides the > census? What about church records? You can see that I really need to be > talking to someone that has already done some of this research. If anyone > is interested in talking this through with me, I sure would like to hear > from you. Connie > conniehitchings@hotmail.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Cassidy" <cassidym@earthlink.net> > To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:45 PM > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: OHGALLIA-D Digest V05 #79 > > > > LethaH@aol.com wrote: > >> Hi all Only one question-are Graham and Grayum the same family? My > >> earliest notes on them spell it Grayum. Ginny > >> > >> > > > > Hi, Ginny > > > > I work on the Grahams to be found around the Jackson City area, northern > > Raccoon Creek. Just north of the border of Gallia. I've tried, and > > failed to find a relationship with those Grahams and the Joseph Graham in > > Gallia/Meigs. And I've not found a relationship to Grayums which appear > > in both places, as well as other nearby locations. > > > > If I were you, I'd treat them as separate families, but if you discover a > > connection, please yell and holler. I haven't seen any connections, but I > > miss things sometimes. <g> > > > > > > -- > > Marty Cassidy > > Seattle, WA USA > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

I also am looking for that connection of the other GRAHAMs and Joseph GRAHAM in Meigs County. I was told that brothers came to Ohio, one settled in Gallia and one in Meigs. I can't find the information now to give you a source for that. But I was also told there is connection to the name Grimes. I know this isn't giving you any help, but maybe a clue. On the 1820 census David GRAHAM had a son under 5 years old. Who was that son? Either I have missed something or that son could have been Joseph, they both lived in Columbia twp. Meigs County. I know the rest of my GRAHAM family lived close and was friendly with the other GRAHAMs in the area. Joseph owned land, listed as JJ GRAHAM. What does the other J stand for? I keep thinking that maybe other records for him is under another name and not under Joseph. I can't get to Pomeroy Court house, but hope to someday. I would like to follow the property deeds to see who got Josephs land after his death. Maybe his children, but just maybe not, then there would be another clue. I know others have traced the GRAHAM family, has anyone already done this? Has anyone looked at the wills? Does he show up anywhere besides the census? What about church records? You can see that I really need to be talking to someone that has already done some of this research. If anyone is interested in talking this through with me, I sure would like to hear from you. Connie conniehitchings@hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Cassidy" <cassidym@earthlink.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: OHGALLIA-D Digest V05 #79 > LethaH@aol.com wrote: >> Hi all Only one question-are Graham and Grayum the same family? My >> earliest notes on them spell it Grayum. Ginny >> >> > > Hi, Ginny > > I work on the Grahams to be found around the Jackson City area, northern > Raccoon Creek. Just north of the border of Gallia. I've tried, and > failed to find a relationship with those Grahams and the Joseph Graham in > Gallia/Meigs. And I've not found a relationship to Grayums which appear > in both places, as well as other nearby locations. > > If I were you, I'd treat them as separate families, but if you discover a > connection, please yell and holler. I haven't seen any connections, but I > miss things sometimes. <g> > > > -- > Marty Cassidy > Seattle, WA USA >

I have a lot of information on one of the Grayum families, descending from Joseph Grayum. His son John married Esther Shepard, and the marriage record spells his name Grimes. There were four sons and a daughter. The daughter, Elizabeth Patsy, married Alexander Oliver and that family moved to Hancock Co., IL. My ancestor Joseph married Polly Entsminger and lived in Gallia Co. The next son Daniel married Elizabeth Entsminger and moved to Hancock Co., IL. He spelled his name Graham. Charles Grayum moved to Meigs Co. but his daughters moved back to Gallia Co. after his death. The youngest son William moved to Schuyler Co., IL and spelled his name Graham. The Philip Graham that Connie mentioned is a different family as nearly as I can tell. My Grayums came from Connecticut originally, and Philip came from Virginia.

Yes, Ginny, they definitely can be. Henny ----- Original Message ----- From: <LethaH@aol.com> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:52 PM Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: OHGALLIA-D Digest V05 #79 > Hi all Only one question-are Graham and Grayum the same family? My > earliest > notes on them spell it Grayum. Ginny > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. > > >

Hi all Only one question-are Graham and Grayum the same family? My earliest notes on them spell it Grayum. Ginny

LethaH@aol.com wrote: > Hi all Only one question-are Graham and Grayum the same family? My earliest > notes on them spell it Grayum. Ginny > > Hi, Ginny I work on the Grahams to be found around the Jackson City area, northern Raccoon Creek. Just north of the border of Gallia. I've tried, and failed to find a relationship with those Grahams and the Joseph Graham in Gallia/Meigs. And I've not found a relationship to Grayums which appear in both places, as well as other nearby locations. If I were you, I'd treat them as separate families, but if you discover a connection, please yell and holler. I haven't seen any connections, but I miss things sometimes. <g> -- Marty Cassidy Seattle, WA USA

In a message dated 3/16/2005 3:35:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, juanita2@cox.net writes: Kathie, It'd be hard to figure out why a person was written out of a Will unless you found out everything that was going on in their life @ the time. My husband's gr grandfather married in one town in NC back in the early 1800's...but no divorce record was found although there could have been. A few towns away we found him living with another woman with several children, all with his surname. When the father of the new "wife" drew up his Will he purposely excluded his daughter as well as all her children. No reason why, but we suspected it may not have been a legal marriage or that our gr grandfather and his "father-in-law" had an unnamed disagreement over something. The woman was named as the deceased's daughter and given $1.00 with the statement he'd excluded her children. You might check into everything you can find about your gr gr grandfather & his mother to see if there might have been a disagreement - perhaps over land or even his marriage. Have you looked at Civil Court records to see if there may have been suits filed for some reason between the two of them? Civil Court records can be revealing. I'd never have found my grandmother's adoption unless her adoptive parents had filed for divorce. I saw their names in the court records in IA and requested a copy of all papers in the case file and in them was testimony that their daughter (naming my grandmother) had been adopted. juanita My great-great grandfather fathered 19 children (by four different wives). In his will he left property or money to only seven. In researching land records, however, I found that he had purchased, or helped to purchase, land during his lifetime for each of those not mentioned in the will. In other words he only took care of the children in his will who had not received property from him during his lifetime. Neil

Another consideration: if the will gives other family members $50 or $100 or large amounts of personal property, it certainly indicates that the $1 was a legal maneuver to prevent the one person "written out of the will" from contesting the will or, as you say, to indicate that the person wasn't forgotten at the time of the writing of the will. My g-g-grandfather appears to have been written out of his mother's will. I'd love to know why. Kathie ----- Original Message ----- From: "juanita" <juanita2@cox.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] $1.00 in 1839 vs. today > Mentioning someone in a Will and giving them $1.00 is/was a legal > maneuver, I believe, to indicate to a court that the person mentioned > was not forgotten at the time the Will was being drawn up. I read a > discussion about this that said heirs to an estate could not claim in > Court, or protest a Will, that their benefactor had forgotten them. > $1.00 made the transaction legal. > > Maybe the ancestor who was given $1.00 and the "money your husband > owes me" was considered enough of his share of any inheritance. > > No doubt someone else can explain this better, but this is what I > understand. > > juanita > > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > > > X-Message: #26 > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:31:55 EST > > From: McNab2000@aol.com > > To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <ff.f502649.2f68f49b@aol.com> > > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: Peter's Cornell's Will > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Just out of curiosity, how much would a $1.00 have taken a person in > > 1839? > > > > I looked it up at _www.westegg.com_ (http://www.westegg.com) and it > > is very interesting. What cost $1.00 in 1839 would cost $16.49 in > > 2003. (there are no figures for 2004 yet) Obviously, they either got > > their inheritance early or they were intentionally cut out of their > > father's will. I have an early German ancestor, Gaspar Link, in the > > Shenandoah Valley who left his daughter, my foremother, as well as > > his other daughter, her sister, who married no-account Harless > > brothers, "$1.00 and the money your husband owes me!" Her husband, > > my forefather, disappeared, was thought to have been killed by > > Indians, but turned up two counties away with a wife and several more > > children! Ha ha! Later,the other brother was caught passing > > counterfeit gold coins in Pearisburg!! So, no wonder the old man was > > angry! > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharon Lee Gates > > > > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. > > > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. > >

Hi all, I'm delighted with the amount of list activity lately, and the number of connections being made. Keep up the good work! Please try to remember, though, to check the address you are responding to. If it's the list and you think your reply belongs in the public forum, that's great. But consider if maybe your reply to an individual might not be all that interesting to everyone; if so, then change the reply-to address as appropriate. Especially take a moment to check if you are sending personal information that you might not wish to broadcast all over the internet and be archived forever. I know from personal experience it's hard to take one second to think about this before hitting the send button. I also know the feeling of "oops" when I forget to do it. Thanks for your time. Back to genealogy.... -- Marty Cassidy Seattle, WA USA

Kathie, It'd be hard to figure out why a person was written out of a Will unless you found out everything that was going on in their life @ the time. My husband's gr grandfather married in one town in NC back in the early 1800's...but no divorce record was found although there could have been. A few towns away we found him living with another woman with several children, all with his surname. When the father of the new "wife" drew up his Will he purposely excluded his daughter as well as all her children. No reason why, but we suspected it may not have been a legal marriage or that our gr grandfather and his "father-in-law" had an unnamed disagreement over something. The woman was named as the deceased's daughter and given $1.00 with the statement he'd excluded her children. You might check into everything you can find about your gr gr grandfather & his mother to see if there might have been a disagreement - perhaps over land or even his marriage. Have you looked at Civil Court records to see if there may have been suits filed for some reason between the two of them? Civil Court records can be revealing. I'd never have found my grandmother's adoption unless her adoptive parents had filed for divorce. I saw their names in the court records in IA and requested a copy of all papers in the case file and in them was testimony that their daughter (naming my grandmother) had been adopted. juanita > Another consideration: if the will gives other family members $50 or > $100 or large amounts of personal property, it certainly indicates > that the $1 was a legal maneuver to prevent the one person "written > out of the will" from contesting the will or, as you say, to indicate > that the person wasn't forgotten at the time of the writing of the > will. My g-g-grandfather appears to have been written out of his > mother's will. I'd love to know why. Kathie ----- Original Message > ----- From: "juanita" <juanita2@cox.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] > $1.00 in 1839 vs. today > > > > Mentioning someone in a Will and giving them $1.00 is/was a legal > > maneuver, I believe, to indicate to a court that the person > > mentioned was not forgotten at the time the Will was being drawn up. > > I read a discussion about this that said heirs to an estate could > > not claim in Court, or protest a Will, that their benefactor had > > forgotten them. $1.00 made the transaction legal. > > > > Maybe the ancestor who was given $1.00 and the "money your husband > > owes me" was considered enough of his share of any inheritance. > > > > No doubt someone else can explain this better, but this is what I > > understand. > > > > juanita > > > > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > > > > > > > X-Message: #26 > > > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:31:55 EST > > > From: McNab2000@aol.com > > > To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: <ff.f502649.2f68f49b@aol.com> > > > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Re: Peter's Cornell's Will > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, how much would a $1.00 have taken a person > > > in 1839? > > > > > > I looked it up at _www.westegg.com_ (http://www.westegg.com) and > > > it is very interesting. What cost $1.00 in 1839 would cost > > > $16.49 in 2003. (there are no figures for 2004 yet) Obviously, > > > they either got their inheritance early or they were > > > intentionally cut out of their father's will. I have an early > > > German ancestor, Gaspar Link, in the Shenandoah Valley who left > > > his daughter, my foremother, as well as his other daughter, her > > > sister, who married no-account Harless brothers, "$1.00 and the > > > money your husband owes me!" Her husband, my forefather, > > > disappeared, was thought to have been killed by Indians, but > > > turned up two counties away with a wife and several more children! > > > Ha ha! Later,the other brother was caught passing counterfeit > > > gold coins in Pearisburg!! So, no wonder the old man was angry! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharon Lee Gates > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > > > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > > in Gallia County, Ohio. > > > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > If you want to unsubscribe to the list, send an email to > OHGALLIA-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the text > of the email. >

An obit, at last! Have I told you what a peach you are Henny? You guys are all the best. Debra -----Original Message----- From: Henny Evans <hcevans@eurekanet.com> To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:04:03 -0500 Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper To all of the Cooper researchers, especially Debra, Diane and Joyce. Death records show that Leather Cooper died 12 Apr 1885. Vol. 1, p. 188. I took a chance that this was Aleatha/Leatha and looked for the obits as I had promised to do for one of you. Anyway, there are two death notices, one in the Journal and one in the Bulletin. The Bulletin shows that she died at her son-in-law's William Betz. She was 65 and buried near Yellowtown. The Journal added that she was also the mother-in-law of Jacob White. I checked marriages and found that Rebecca married Jacob White and that Lotta (Charlotte) married William Betz. Plus in Civil Journal A, I noticed that Jacob was the administrator of John. It may well be that his final estate was not filed until after the death of his widow for any of various reasons. Henny Evans PS Copies in the mail today. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message.

That was an amusing quote from Will Rogers! Thanks for posting that. Remember, all these pioneers' parents were also pioneers! The American Spirit seems to have been for people who wanted out of the stifling European atmosphere (and many of mine were fighting the Catholic Church or the Church of England-French Huguenots, Puritans, German Lutherans, Scottish Jacobites, so they were self-selected for the trait of being rebellious. Then, after they won the right for independence from England and defeated the natives in Ohio, west of the Appalachians really opened up to those with adventurous spirits. Some kept moving west, but all of mine stayed in West Virginia after they got there. The Gateses and Rands came from New England to Waterford, Hocking Valley and Gallipolis areas, then to what was Kanawha Court House, VA and now is Charleston, WV. My other Scotch-Irish, German and English ancestors, came through another migratory route of the New River from Newport, Giles County, VA. They settled down and helped the Kanawha Valley to be very prosperous. It wasn't until I left in 1968 that there was a migration for my direct lineage. There is a great migration to the Sunbelt since then, of course. Still, I feel a little guilty. (frown!) Sharon Lee Gates In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Indeed they were hardy....but it reminds me of what Will Rogers had to say about pioneers: " I think if we just stopped and looked history in the face, a pioneer wasn't a thing in the world, but a guy that wanted something for nothing." LOL, hardy, yes, but looking for free land after he had exhausted the old land.......

Ok. Henny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim&Joyce Hagerty" <hag@winco.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper > Yes, Henny > > I would love to have a copy. My address is > Joyce Hagerty > 2455 Knox Road 700 East > Oneida, Illinois 61467 > > I will, of course, reimburse you for your time, postage and copying. > We corresponded some time ago about the Harrington line. I have been able > to track down a lot of the descendants of the Gallia County lines...some > of > them even settled here in Illinois. > > Thanks again. > > Joyce > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henny Evans [mailto:hcevans@eurekanet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:02 PM > To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Obits for Leatha Cooper > > Joyce, no, I don't think so. Send it privately. Did you also want copies? > Henny >> >> > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. > > >

Consider it done. Sorry, but no color. Henny ----- Original Message ----- From: <SGates1949@aol.com> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 9:23 AM Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] LeRoy Madison Gates and Madleine Virginia Hume May 1921 marriage license > > In a message dated 3/15/2005 9:36:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > > The marriage is recorded in Gallia Co. It's at the court house if you > need > me to get it for you or you can write directly to Probate Ct. It should > have parents' info and ages, even if wrong, on them, but probably no > details. Henny Evans > > Thank you, Henny, that is a wonderful offer! Yes, I would like to have > it > IN COLOR, if possible (I got some from Greenbrier County Historical > Society > that way and they are super). I will be interested in how old they > claimed to > be! It will help on my First Families application, as well. If you can > find > the one for Moses Gates and Harriet Baltzel (Baltzed, I believe it may > have > been misspelled) about a hundred years before, I would like that one, as > well. I will pay you handsomely for them! Thanks again! > > > Sharon Lee Gates > 1476 Glenmore Drive > Apopka, FL 32712-2046 > Telephone: 407-814-9644 > Telefax: 407-814-9645 > Mobile phone: 407-375-9644 > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. > > >