A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be > built on. Henny I too am interested in those garden lots. My great-grandmother, Malinda Wise, bought one of them after her husband died. She lived on a farm with her nine children in Clay Township about 5-6 miles south of Gallipolis. I wondered if they were used commercially to grow and sell produce. She eventually had the property seized in a lawsuit to a Maria Long. Neil E. Folsom, CA

Sometime in the past I read an account of a river boat clash during the Civil War in which some Gallia County men who were not in the army or navy were recruited on an emergency basis for a skirmish on the Kanawha River in West Virginia. I believe it was in about April of 1863. Does anyone know of any written accounts? I no longer recall where I originally read it, but I wonder if there were newspapers reports from that time, and if they would contain the names or those who participated. Neil E. Folsom, CA

Linda , I read with great interest the stories on the ORS site, and sure enough I found g grandpa Stapleton "Stape" WRIGHT as the pilot of the Victor. Later Stape was awarded a riffle by the city of Gallipolis for his efforts to defend Gallipolis from the confederates. Stapes brother William Penn WRIGHT , also manned boats on the Kanawha and Ohio , he once according to Capt Ellis Mace , swam the river and stole the confederate flag from the rebel camp. thanks for the site , Ernie WRIGHT The Victor was the first boat to pass through the fire. Capt. Ford, though his boat was crowded with passengers, evinced the coolest daring, firmness, and courage possible for any man under like circumstances. The pilots, Harry Bays and Stape Wright, never flinched for an instant, but without any protection, regardless of the crashing of the Minnie balls through every portion of the boat, and especially the pilot house, brought off the boat in safety, with the loss of one man killed, Frank Stote, teamster, and one mortally wounded.�How scores escaped being killed or wounded on this boat, is a mystery.� Linda Trent <lindatrent@zoomnet.net> wrote: Hi Neil, I believe you're referring to Jenkins raid on Point Pleasant. I put on the Struggle for Statehood event held in Cabell County last year, and we used newspaper accounts to document our activities. The following site has several accounts of the Battle of Point Pleasant from the Gallipolis Journal. http://struggleforstatehood.homestead.com/ORS.html Linda Trent lindatrent@zoomnet.net > Sometime in the past I read an account of a river boat clash during the > Civil War in which some Gallia County men who were not in the army or navy > were > recruited on an emergency basis for a skirmish on the Kanawha River in > West > Virginia. I believe it was in about April of 1863. Does anyone know of > any > written accounts? I no longer recall where I originally read it, but I > wonder > if there were newspapers reports from that time, and if they would > contain > the names or those who participated. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

I might relate an incident that I know about. While researching court house files for the middle 1800's, we found the Will of an ancestor who died in 1863. We made a copy of the paper and returned it to the case file. A few years later I wanted to again inspect the paper as the handwriting was blurred on the copy we'd made earlier. But I could not find the original document! I know it was there as we'd personally read it, copied it and returned it to the file jacket. (#1 file jacket for the County containing the earliest records). After our court house visit we had to return to our home a few states away. I received an inquiry from someone who said they were also researching the same family name and she sent a 3 x 5" card with documentation about the family, asking that I return it to her after we read it. She named all the children of the deceased even to the misspelling of the names which appeared on the Will. I recognized the card as one very similar to the ones filed in the genealogy society in the town where our ancestor died. I made a copy of the original card and returned it to the sender, but on our next trip to the genealogy library I asked the librarian about the card and showed her the copy of one we'd made. She told me it had been in their files.....that theirs turned up missing. I cannot prove my assumptions but I feel certain the same person not only took possession of the original Will from the court house but also the genealogy society's card file. It angered me to think people would do such a thing but I've heard it became a common practice and many court houses and libraries have had to restrict access to a lot of their records. One lady in the county clerk's office in Kentucky showed me a large old book of early marriages she had to keep in her desk drawer just because several people had tried to smuggle it out of the court house! No doubt many of the old records have disappeared taken by selfish people which has deprived us of valuable information. Even pages from books have been cut out. juanita > As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those who > have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. > > Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look > something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who are > not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a > genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't think > that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was fair > game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily newspaper on > Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, in Perry > Township. > > Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help > people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted > something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the > Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since > last summer. > > Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have > been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard > Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have > used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were > very informational are gone. > > I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but > they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would > someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They were > old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected from > reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there when > it happened. > > I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would please > uncountless people. > > Just had to get that off my chest. > > Cheryl

Sharon, looks to me like Margaret died before Daniel sold to Harriet as she is not named on the deed and should have been if she were living. She was named on Thomas' two years before. Death records were not kept in Gallia Co. until 1867. I think she is right about the garden lots...they are on the river side and were not to be built upon...just for gardening. You could build on the other side of the street and may have owned both sides...one for the house and one for the garden. Although there are several First Ave. sites where they built on both sides. Maybe she'll jump in here and help to clarify. Henny ----- Original Message ----- From: <SGates1949@aol.com> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 9:21 AM Subject: [OHGALLIA-L] BALTZELL GATES WARE > > > I don't know where your friend got that information about they were not to > be built on, Henny. Please advise. All this information has been very > helpful and of great interest to me. Thanks so much to Denise, Henny and > Cheryl. > Thanks to Denise, I now know that Margaret Baltzell's maiden name is > WARE, > born in Morgantown, VA, now WV, so I am ecstatic that I have another > surname to > add to my genealogy! I have also learned that Daniel Baltzell was born > in > Frederick, MD. I did a Mapquest so I could see a route between > Frederick, MD > and Morgantown, WV and can see they trekked a long way in those days, > then I > am trying to see how they went from Morgantown to Gallipolis. Of course, > I > know the Ohio River flat boats took them the last leg. If Daniel and > Margaret > died in Dix, IL, I can also see the route down the Ohio to the > Mississippi > and then up it. Does anyone have a death record for Daniel and Margaret > Baltzell in Gallipolis? They are my gggg grandparents. If there is no > death > record in Gallipolis, then I must assume there was another reason why > Daniel > alone made a life estate conveyance to his daughter, Harriet Baltzell > Gates and > her husband, Moses Haskell Gates. Maybe he did it, "just in case" he > came > back from yet another move, to Dix, IL! All speculation at this point! > Sharon > > In a message dated 3/29/2005 1:00:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be > built on. Henny > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. > > >

Most likely, from Morgantown they got on a boat and floated down to Gallipolis. Monongahela River to Pittsburgh, then the Ohio River the rest of the way...and easy, very easy route. Of course they might have climbed over those mountains which I have sworn I will never drive over again ! ;-) On 3/29/2005, "SGates1949@aol.com" <SGates1949@aol.com> wrote: > > >I don't know where your friend got that information about they were not to >be built on, Henny. Please advise. All this information has been very >helpful and of great interest to me. Thanks so much to Denise, Henny and Cheryl. >Thanks to Denise, I now know that Margaret Baltzell's maiden name is WARE, >born in Morgantown, VA, now WV, so I am ecstatic that I have another surname to >add to my genealogy! I have also learned that Daniel Baltzell was born in >Frederick, MD. I did a Mapquest so I could see a route between Frederick, MD >and Morgantown, WV and can see they trekked a long way in those days, then I >am trying to see how they went from Morgantown to Gallipolis. Of course, I >know the Ohio River flat boats took them the last leg. If Daniel and Margaret >died in Dix, IL, I can also see the route down the Ohio to the Mississippi >and then up it. Does anyone have a death record for Daniel and Margaret >Baltzell in Gallipolis? They are my gggg grandparents. If there is no death >record in Gallipolis, then I must assume there was another reason why Daniel >alone made a life estate conveyance to his daughter, Harriet Baltzell Gates and >her husband, Moses Haskell Gates. Maybe he did it, "just in case" he came >back from yet another move, to Dix, IL! All speculation at this point! >Sharon > >In a message dated 3/29/2005 1:00:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > >A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be >built on. Henny > > > > > > > > > >==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== >Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. >

I don't know where your friend got that information about they were not to be built on, Henny. Please advise. All this information has been very helpful and of great interest to me. Thanks so much to Denise, Henny and Cheryl. Thanks to Denise, I now know that Margaret Baltzell's maiden name is WARE, born in Morgantown, VA, now WV, so I am ecstatic that I have another surname to add to my genealogy! I have also learned that Daniel Baltzell was born in Frederick, MD. I did a Mapquest so I could see a route between Frederick, MD and Morgantown, WV and can see they trekked a long way in those days, then I am trying to see how they went from Morgantown to Gallipolis. Of course, I know the Ohio River flat boats took them the last leg. If Daniel and Margaret died in Dix, IL, I can also see the route down the Ohio to the Mississippi and then up it. Does anyone have a death record for Daniel and Margaret Baltzell in Gallipolis? They are my gggg grandparents. If there is no death record in Gallipolis, then I must assume there was another reason why Daniel alone made a life estate conveyance to his daughter, Harriet Baltzell Gates and her husband, Moses Haskell Gates. Maybe he did it, "just in case" he came back from yet another move, to Dix, IL! All speculation at this point! Sharon In a message dated 3/29/2005 1:00:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be built on. Henny

As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those who have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who are not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't think that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was fair game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily newspaper on Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, in Perry Township. Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since last summer. Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were very informational are gone. I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They were old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected from reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there when it happened. I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would please uncountless people. Just had to get that off my chest. Cheryl Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Sharon, I am not sure about the Garden lots not to be built on but I do know that the Public Square and the land to the river were not to be built on. The garden lots are right on the river and would flood and do flood everytime the water comes up. I will do some checking at the society and see what I come up with. Most likely your Baltzel came down to the Kanawha River and into the Ohio to get to Gallipolis. This was a stopping off place for many. The came this far then stayed for a while before hopping on a boat and going west. Some also stayed and never moved on, you know how beautiful this area of West Virginia and Ohio is they found what they wanted and stayed. CHeryl SGates1949@aol.com wrote: I don't know where your friend got that information about they were not to be built on, Henny. Please advise. All this information has been very helpful and of great interest to me. Thanks so much to Denise, Henny and Cheryl. Thanks to Denise, I now know that Margaret Baltzell's maiden name is WARE, born in Morgantown, VA, now WV, so I am ecstatic that I have another surname to add to my genealogy! I have also learned that Daniel Baltzell was born in Frederick, MD. I did a Mapquest so I could see a route between Frederick, MD and Morgantown, WV and can see they trekked a long way in those days, then I am trying to see how they went from Morgantown to Gallipolis. Of course, I know the Ohio River flat boats took them the last leg. If Daniel and Margaret died in Dix, IL, I can also see the route down the Ohio to the Mississippi and then up it. Does anyone have a death record for Daniel and Margaret Baltzell in Gallipolis? They are my gggg grandparents. If there is no death record in Gallipolis, then I must assume there was another reason why Daniel alone made a life estate conveyance to his daughter, Harriet Baltzell Gates and her husband, Moses Haskell Gates. Maybe he did it, "just in case" he came back from yet another move, to Dix, IL! All speculation at this point! Sharon In a message dated 3/29/2005 1:00:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, OHGALLIA-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be built on. Henny ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

This site also has sailors you can search. You can search by soldier, sailor or regiment or even the battle. Marjorie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Hazlett" <charlie@hazlett.net> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Civil War Regiments in Gallipolis > > Let us not forget that all of Gallia County's Civil War vets were not > soldiers, my great, great, grandfather, Matthew Riley Dickey served in > the U.S. Navy aboard a riverboat named "General Pillow". > > So if you know you had a vet and can't find him, the navy was not only > in the oceans, but were much closer, Matthew served in the Kentucky > River and in the Tennessee River, among others........... > > > > On 3/29/2005, "Marjorie L. Gilliam Wood" <woodchuck@eurekanet.com> > wrote: > > >These are two regiments that were located in Gallipolis. You can search the list of Soldiers at the following a Government website: http://www.civilwar.nps.gov . This is a great site for finding Civil War Soldiers. You can enter either a name or a regiment or state. > > > >It's not to early to start looking for ancestors for the Society of Civil War Families of Gallia County. > > > >Marjorie L. Wood > >President, Gallia County Genealogical Society > >Lineage Society Chairman > > > >140th Regiment, Ohio Infantry (National Guard) > > > > > >Organized at Gallipolis, Ohio, and mustered in May 10, 1864. Left State for Charleston, W. Va., May 10. Assigned to duty as garrison at Charleston and on guard duty along Kanawha and Gauley Rivers till September. Mustered out September 3, 1864. > > > >Lost 2 by disease. > > > >141st Regiment, Ohio Infantry (National Guard) > > > > > > > >Organized at Gallipolis, Ohio, and mustered in May 14, 1864. Left State for Charleston, W. Va., May 21. Garrison duty at Charleston. Attached to Reserve Division, Dept. of West Virginia, till August 25. Mustered out September 3, 1864. > > > >Lost during service 4 Enlisted men by disease. Total 4. > > > > > > > > > >==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > >If you want to unsubscribe to the list, send an email to OHGALLIA-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the text of the email. > > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm >

could you post guilde line for proving civila war vet and where to send for records. thank you shelby

Just what Fraziers/Frashers are you looking for? I have a little bit on both spellings. Doris.

A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be built on. Henny

I AM LOOKING FOR STELLA JACKSON. I CAN FIND HER IN 1910 CENSUS, GALLIA COUNTY, HUNTINGTON TWP.. SHE IS LIVING WITH GEORGE JACKSON, HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD ANDMARY E. JACKSON, SYLVESTER JACKSON, AND EMILINE JACKSON.SHE IS 13 YEARS OLD. AND IT SAYS SHE IS THE NIECE OF GEORGE. UNDER HER NAME IT SAYS, MOTHER BORN VIRGINIA. I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY HELP, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A LONG WHILE AND CAN'T FIND HER BEFORE OR AFTER THAT DATE. THANKS TO ALL. DEBBIE

Let us not forget that all of Gallia County's Civil War vets were not soldiers, my great, great, grandfather, Matthew Riley Dickey served in the U.S. Navy aboard a riverboat named "General Pillow". So if you know you had a vet and can't find him, the navy was not only in the oceans, but were much closer, Matthew served in the Kentucky River and in the Tennessee River, among others........... On 3/29/2005, "Marjorie L. Gilliam Wood" <woodchuck@eurekanet.com> wrote: >These are two regiments that were located in Gallipolis. You can search the list of Soldiers at the following a Government website: http://www.civilwar.nps.gov . This is a great site for finding Civil War Soldiers. You can enter either a name or a regiment or state. > >It's not to early to start looking for ancestors for the Society of Civil War Families of Gallia County. > >Marjorie L. Wood >President, Gallia County Genealogical Society >Lineage Society Chairman > >140th Regiment, Ohio Infantry (National Guard) > > >Organized at Gallipolis, Ohio, and mustered in May 10, 1864. Left State for Charleston, W. Va., May 10. Assigned to duty as garrison at Charleston and on guard duty along Kanawha and Gauley Rivers till September. Mustered out September 3, 1864. > >Lost 2 by disease. > >141st Regiment, Ohio Infantry (National Guard) > > > >Organized at Gallipolis, Ohio, and mustered in May 14, 1864. Left State for Charleston, W. Va., May 21. Garrison duty at Charleston. Attached to Reserve Division, Dept. of West Virginia, till August 25. Mustered out September 3, 1864. > >Lost during service 4 Enlisted men by disease. Total 4. > > > > >==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== >If you want to unsubscribe to the list, send an email to OHGALLIA-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com with the word unsubscribe in the text of the email. >

These are two regiments that were located in Gallipolis. You can search the list of Soldiers at the following a Government website: http://www.civilwar.nps.gov . This is a great site for finding Civil War Soldiers. You can enter either a name or a regiment or state. It's not to early to start looking for ancestors for the Society of Civil War Families of Gallia County. Marjorie L. Wood President, Gallia County Genealogical Society Lineage Society Chairman 140th Regiment, Ohio Infantry (National Guard) Organized at Gallipolis, Ohio, and mustered in May 10, 1864. Left State for Charleston, W. Va., May 10. Assigned to duty as garrison at Charleston and on guard duty along Kanawha and Gauley Rivers till September. Mustered out September 3, 1864. Lost 2 by disease. 141st Regiment, Ohio Infantry (National Guard) Organized at Gallipolis, Ohio, and mustered in May 14, 1864. Left State for Charleston, W. Va., May 21. Garrison duty at Charleston. Attached to Reserve Division, Dept. of West Virginia, till August 25. Mustered out September 3, 1864. Lost during service 4 Enlisted men by disease. Total 4.

As you drive down river from the park front, those lots over the hill and near the river bank your , also the lotsgoing upriver along the riverside of First Avenue, behind the houses are garden lots. According to the 1819: Garden Lots were those lots lying between city lots and the river. There were 29 garden lots listed on the record. Garden lot # 9 , was Moses and Chapdu.... Garden Lot #17 was Baltzell and Holder. For those of you that know Gallipolis, Lot# 9 would be (aprox,) across from Bill Jenkins home, below the park. Lot #17 would be up on First , just behind Needham Flats, or Kathryn Wiseman's home. That is according to the map that I was able to find. If anyone would like me to post the list of the other garden lots.. I wil. Cheryl VP of GCGS, OGS Henny Evans <hcevans@eurekanet.com> wrote: A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be built on. Henny ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Gallipolis Bulletin March 4, 1912 Prominent Gallia County Farmer Dead. Josiah McCall of Harrison Township and well known throughout that section of the county , was found dead early Monday morning . March 4, by his son Claude. Mr. McCall had gone to the barn to feed the stock and was seized by an attack of heart failure which caused his death. He was about 75 years of age and was one of the most prominrnt farmers in Clay Lick Valley, owning about 400 acres of that fertile land. He was a good citizen and erved his township as Trustee for a number of years and was greatly interested in the cattle and sheep industry and did much to improve the grade of stock and his vicinity. He was one of the most progressive farmers in the county and his death is a distinct loss. He is survived by his wife, Mrs. Ann Eliza Northup McCall and by three sons and one daughter, J.C. of Patriot, Claude H. at home, O.E. of Clay Lick , and Mrs. Cora Thorton of Lincoln. He is also survived by one brother , Alexander McCall of Proctorville, Lawrence County. The funeral services were held at the family residence Wednesday at 10:30 o'clock and were conducted by Rev. Edgar Ewing. Burial at the McCall Cemetery by Wetherholt. Cheryl Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Not only does my McCall info agree with those already posted, except I have only 6 children listed for Josiah and Anne Elizabeth, but the Thornton family is also my line. Thornton's list Cora McCall's husband as Nelson Thornton, b. 5August1872, d. 27Nov 1944.It would appear that several errors may have been made by whomever submitted info to the newspaper. Marge White Gigante

Yes, Sharon, there was a definite agreement to take care of Daniel. Garden Lots were in town, lots mostly along the river. There are some old plats which I believe show the numbered lots. I did not follow Thomas' land through to see if he and a wife sold it. I will try to look at it for you. I know there is a map of the garden lots at the court house but I think I know where to find it without going back there. The town was laid out by 1795 when they drew to see who would get what. River lots were more expensive. Henny >