Marty, You are really lucky, this is what I tried to get a guy to do with the last set I saw. The Fulton set was a real find and the right full owners did get them. The other set of photo's from Gallipolis is still in the owner, from Columbus, posession . I have his email address and he will hold on to them to see if he can find the family. I have run into both the kind and the greedy Martin Cassidy <cassidym@earthlink.net> wrote:There are people out there that are nice in these situations. Here's what happened to me: An "antiquer" (one who spends as much time crawling through antique shops as we spend doing genealogy) found some old photographs in a store and bought them because there were names on them. She then hit the internet looking for relatives, found my website, and then sent them to me gratis. They were beautiful photos of my great grandfather's family, originally in boxes stored in a barn and sold off to a dealer in an estate matter. My guess is that if she hadn't found any claimants, she'd try on ebay to recoup some costs. Her motives weren't greed, they were honorable, and I am forever indebted to her for her efforts. -- Marty Cassidy Seattle, WA USA ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

cheryl enyart wrote: > They could have made copies from the ones at the library and not stolen them... > I > have a problem also with that sort of thing being sold. I talked to a guy who bought things at an estate sale. He knew that a part of the family was bidding against him but he kept going. He tried to sell them on ebay and got no response.. > I often see that sort of thing and write the seller, I ask him if he has tried to contact the family or search out the family in the area they are from... most of the time they don't care. > Other times you get a good response and ask for help (if it is from Gallipolis), > There are people out there that are nice in these situations. Here's what happened to me: An "antiquer" (one who spends as much time crawling through antique shops as we spend doing genealogy) found some old photographs in a store and bought them because there were names on them. She then hit the internet looking for relatives, found my website, and then sent them to me gratis. They were beautiful photos of my great grandfather's family, originally in boxes stored in a barn and sold off to a dealer in an estate matter. My guess is that if she hadn't found any claimants, she'd try on ebay to recoup some costs. Her motives weren't greed, they were honorable, and I am forever indebted to her for her efforts. -- Marty Cassidy Seattle, WA USA

I thought I had a copy of the Cemetery Book for Addison Township - I have Cheshire, Gallipolis, Morgan, but Addison isn't in my bookcase. I am looking for the graves of the Petty brothers and their wives. One brother was living in Addison Township in 1840, the other in Gallipolis. I checked the books I have and didn't find them. Hugh Petty died abt 1843, his wife Lucy (nee McAboy) died between 1870-1880. His brother was Lemuel Petty and ?. Apparently they both died in Feb 1860 - leaving at least 3 young children that went to live with their Aunt Lucy Petty. Thanks, SueEd NY __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

Would someone please check this to see if it is my great-great grandfather's marriage? My great-great grandmother is Virginia Rand that he married in Charleston during the Civil War, so if his Wigner or maybe it ought to be Wagner, may have been a first wife I have never heard of. Maybe we could also find either a death or a divorce there. Maybe it isn't James Madison Gates, but it surely seems as though it may be! GATES, J. M WIGNER, MARGARET 24 Apr 1853 Gallia OH Sharon Lee Gates

They could have made copies from the ones at the library and not stolen them... I have a problem also with that sort of thing being sold. I talked to a guy who bought things at an estate sale. He knew that a part of the family was bidding against him but he kept going. He tried to sell them on ebay and got no response.. I often see that sort of thing and write the seller, I ask him if he has tried to contact the family or search out the family in the area they are from... most of the time they don't care. Other times you get a good response and ask for help (if it is from Gallipolis), There was a set of pictures from Cheshire involving Fultons, I called a few people and they were able to get the family pictures they knew nothing about... So, Making copies is ok, but leave the originals in their environment for others to use. Cheryl Charlie Hazlett <charlie@hazlett.net> wrote: Well, in that instance, making copies of something and then offering to sell, I have no problem with it at all. No harm is done and some researcher might have some information he would not have otherwise............ On 3/29/2005, "carle" wrote: >We had a similar situation last year at the LDS family History Library. A >fellow would order films and copy them as they came in. Now nobody has >ancestors with that much information on a film. He would take them to his >place of business and proceed to copy the pages he made and offer them for >sale on E-Bay, his business was Printer. He was confronted after they found >out he was selling on E-Bay and banned from the library. The library also >put a limit on how much you can print at one time. > >Carl > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Griesan" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:37 PM >Subject: RE: [OHGALLIA-L] Files Missing > > >>I wonder if the seller could be prosecuted... Just a thought. >> - Jean >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Connie Hitchings [mailto:conniehitchings@worldnet.att.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:14 PM >> To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Files Missing >> >> >> I was told that some people have started to steal these kind of items to >> sell on E Bay! This is happening all over the country. Everything had >> better be copied as soon as you get it in your hands. There is no >> guarantee >> >> that it will still be there the next trip back. Connie >> >> >> >> >> >>>I might relate an incident that I know about. While researching court >>>house files for the middle 1800's, we found the Will of an ancestor >>>who died in 1863. We made a copy of the paper and returned it to the >>>case file. A few years later I wanted to again inspect the paper as >>>the handwriting was blurred on the copy we'd made earlier. But I could >>>not find the original document! I know it was there as we'd >>>personally read it, copied it and returned it to the file jacket. (#1 >>>file jacket for the County containing the earliest records). >>> >>> After our court house visit we had to return to our home a few states >>> away. I received an inquiry from someone who said they were also >>> researching the same family name and she sent a 3 x 5" card with >>> documentation about the family, asking that I return it to her after >>> we read it. She named all the children of the deceased even to the >>> misspelling of the names which appeared on the Will. I recognized the >>> card as one very similar to the ones filed in the genealogy society in >>> the town where our ancestor died. I made a copy of the original card >>> and returned it to the sender, but on our next trip to the genealogy >>> library I asked the librarian about the card and showed her the copy >>> of one we'd made. She told me it had been in their files.....that >>> theirs turned up missing. >>> >>> I cannot prove my assumptions but I feel certain the same person not >>> only took possession of the original Will from the court house but >>> also the genealogy society's card file. It angered me to think people >>> would do such a thing but I've heard it became a common practice and >>> many court houses and libraries have had to restrict access to a lot >>> of their records. One lady in the county clerk's office in Kentucky >>> showed me a large old book of early marriages she had to keep in her >>> desk drawer just because several people had tried to smuggle it out of >>> the court house! >>> >>> No doubt many of the old records have disappeared taken by selfish >>> people which has deprived us of valuable information. Even pages from >>> books have been cut out. >>> >>> juanita >>> >>> >>>> As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those >>>> who have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. >>>> >>>> Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look >>>> something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who >>>> are not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a >>>> genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't >>>> think that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was >>>> fair game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily >>>> newspaper on Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, >>>> in Perry Township. >>>> >>>> Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help >>>> people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted >>>> something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the >>>> Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since >>>> last summer. >>>> >>>> Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have >>>> been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard >>>> Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have >>>> used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were >>>> very informational are gone. >>>> >>>> I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but >>>> they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would >>>> someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They >>>> were old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected >>>> from reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there >>>> when it happened. >>>> >>>> I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would >>>> please uncountless people. >>>> >>>> Just had to get that off my chest. >>>> >>>> Cheryl >>> >>> ______________________________ >> >> >> ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== >> For those of you on Digest mode, please don't quote the entire digest when >> replying. Also, check your subject line; making it meaningful will >> increase >> your chances of being read. >> >> >> >> ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== >> Please keep your topic related to genealogical research >> in Gallia County, Ohio. >> > > >==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== >For those of you on Digest mode, please don't quote the entire digest when replying. Also, check your subject line; making it meaningful will increase your chances of being read. > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.

We had a similar situation last year at the LDS family History Library. A fellow would order films and copy them as they came in. Now nobody has ancestors with that much information on a film. He would take them to his place of business and proceed to copy the pages he made and offer them for sale on E-Bay, his business was Printer. He was confronted after they found out he was selling on E-Bay and banned from the library. The library also put a limit on how much you can print at one time. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Griesan" <griesantomjean@msn.com> To: <OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: RE: [OHGALLIA-L] Files Missing >I wonder if the seller could be prosecuted... Just a thought. > - Jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: Connie Hitchings [mailto:conniehitchings@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:14 PM > To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Files Missing > > > I was told that some people have started to steal these kind of items to > sell on E Bay! This is happening all over the country. Everything had > better be copied as soon as you get it in your hands. There is no > guarantee > > that it will still be there the next trip back. Connie > > > > > >>I might relate an incident that I know about. While researching court >>house files for the middle 1800's, we found the Will of an ancestor >>who died in 1863. We made a copy of the paper and returned it to the >>case file. A few years later I wanted to again inspect the paper as >>the handwriting was blurred on the copy we'd made earlier. But I could >>not find the original document! I know it was there as we'd >>personally read it, copied it and returned it to the file jacket. (#1 >>file jacket for the County containing the earliest records). >> >> After our court house visit we had to return to our home a few states >> away. I received an inquiry from someone who said they were also >> researching the same family name and she sent a 3 x 5" card with >> documentation about the family, asking that I return it to her after >> we read it. She named all the children of the deceased even to the >> misspelling of the names which appeared on the Will. I recognized the >> card as one very similar to the ones filed in the genealogy society in >> the town where our ancestor died. I made a copy of the original card >> and returned it to the sender, but on our next trip to the genealogy >> library I asked the librarian about the card and showed her the copy >> of one we'd made. She told me it had been in their files.....that >> theirs turned up missing. >> >> I cannot prove my assumptions but I feel certain the same person not >> only took possession of the original Will from the court house but >> also the genealogy society's card file. It angered me to think people >> would do such a thing but I've heard it became a common practice and >> many court houses and libraries have had to restrict access to a lot >> of their records. One lady in the county clerk's office in Kentucky >> showed me a large old book of early marriages she had to keep in her >> desk drawer just because several people had tried to smuggle it out of >> the court house! >> >> No doubt many of the old records have disappeared taken by selfish >> people which has deprived us of valuable information. Even pages from >> books have been cut out. >> >> juanita >> >> >>> As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those >>> who have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. >>> >>> Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look >>> something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who >>> are not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a >>> genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't >>> think that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was >>> fair game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily >>> newspaper on Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, >>> in Perry Township. >>> >>> Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help >>> people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted >>> something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the >>> Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since >>> last summer. >>> >>> Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have >>> been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard >>> Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have >>> used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were >>> very informational are gone. >>> >>> I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but >>> they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would >>> someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They >>> were old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected >>> from reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there >>> when it happened. >>> >>> I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would >>> please uncountless people. >>> >>> Just had to get that off my chest. >>> >>> Cheryl >> >> ______________________________ > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > For those of you on Digest mode, please don't quote the entire digest when > replying. Also, check your subject line; making it meaningful will > increase > your chances of being read. > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please keep your topic related to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. >

Oh, Charlie: I forgot my geography! I knew that two rivers formed the Ohio at Pittsburgh, but I forgot that the Monongahela went through Morgantown. Shame on me for a real BONER! I used to know that, but not going to WVU (go Mountaineers) that part of my Golden Horseshoe was temporarily unavailable from storage. The good part is, that, as soon as I read this, I remembered, too, which means the data was still in the data base. (smile!) Now, how did Daniel BALTZELL's family get from Frederick Maryland to Morgantown? Would that be the Potomac River? Some other geography whiz can chime in here! Thanks, Charlie! Sharon Lee Gates

In a message dated 3/29/2005 1:28:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, trayne1837inc@yahoo.com writes: I have the plot map for the garden lots, It isn't very plain but if blown up on a copier it does come out a little big and plainer. I can email the scan if you want. Cheryl NEILEL@aol.com wrote:A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be > built on. Henny I too am interested in those garden lots. My great-grandmother, Malinda Wise, bought one of them after her husband died. She lived on a farm with her nine children in Clay Township about 5-6 miles south of Gallipolis. I wondered if they were used commercially to grow and sell produce. She eventually had the property seized in a lawsuit to a Maria Long. Neil E. Folsom, CA Thanks for the offer Cheryl, but I have been there and seen the lots. (My great-grandmother's lot is now a gravel parking lot for a tire store) I am interested in whether these were mostly just family vegetable gardens, or if some of them were used for commercial purposes. My great-grandmother's family didn't own any buildings in town, and they lived about 5 miles away in the country. Neil

I don't think the Fort Wayne (Allen County) Library of Indiana even allows folks to take their note books in anymore, (or didn't for awhile, I've not been there for over a year) or they have them searched because of just such things. You can take your lap top, but they give you the stink eye if you have a bunch of loose papers and notebooks. Dirty deal that people can't share with others and then try to make a buck off of Ebay. Makes my stomach queasy too, to see those wonderful pictures on Ebay and some family is missing out. How did it come to the mentality that they are "scooping" someone else for the "news" like they were reporting for Date Line? I'm preaching to the choir I know, but it just makes me shake my head and wonder what folks are thinking. -----Original Message----- From: Connie Hitchings <conniehitchings@worldnet.att.net> To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:13:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Files Missing I was told that some people have started to steal these kind of items to sell on E Bay! This is happening all over the country. Everything had better be copied as soon as you get it in your hands. There is no guarantee that it will still be there the next trip back. Connie >I might relate an incident that I know about. While researching > court house files for the middle 1800's, we found the Will of an > ancestor who died in 1863. We made a copy of the paper and returned > it to the case file. A few years later I wanted to again inspect the > paper as the handwriting was blurred on the copy we'd made earlier. > But I could not find the original document! I know it was there as > we'd personally read it, copied it and returned it to the file > jacket. (#1 file jacket for the County containing the earliest > records). > > After our court house visit we had to return to our home a few states > away. I received an inquiry from someone who said they were also > researching the same family name and she sent a 3 x 5" card with > documentation about the family, asking that I return it to her after > we read it. She named all the children of the deceased even to the > misspelling of the names which appeared on the Will. I recognized > the card as one very similar to the ones filed in the genealogy > society in the town where our ancestor died. I made a copy of the > original card and returned it to the sender, but on our next trip to > the genealogy library I asked the librarian about the card and showed > her the copy of one we'd made. She told me it had been in their > files.....that theirs turned up missing. > > I cannot prove my assumptions but I feel certain the same person not > only took possession of the original Will from the court house but > also the genealogy society's card file. It angered me to think > people would do such a thing but I've heard it became a common > practice and many court houses and libraries have had to restrict > access to a lot of their records. One lady in the county clerk's > office in Kentucky showed me a large old book of early marriages she > had to keep in her desk drawer just because several people had tried > to smuggle it out of the court house! > > No doubt many of the old records have disappeared taken by selfish > people which has deprived us of valuable information. Even pages > from books have been cut out. > > juanita > > >> As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those who >> have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. >> >> Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look >> something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who are >> not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a >> genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't think >> that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was fair >> game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily newspaper on >> Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, in Perry >> Township. >> >> Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help >> people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted >> something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the >> Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since >> last summer. >> >> Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have >> been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard >> Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have >> used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were >> very informational are gone. >> >> I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but >> they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would >> someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They were >> old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected from >> reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there when >> it happened. >> >> I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would please >> uncountless people. >> >> Just had to get that off my chest. >> >> Cheryl > > ______________________________ ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== For those of you on Digest mode, please don't quote the entire digest when replying. Also, check your subject line; making it meaningful will increase your chances of being read.

I was told that some people have started to steal these kind of items to sell on E Bay! This is happening all over the country. Everything had better be copied as soon as you get it in your hands. There is no guarantee that it will still be there the next trip back. Connie >I might relate an incident that I know about. While researching > court house files for the middle 1800's, we found the Will of an > ancestor who died in 1863. We made a copy of the paper and returned > it to the case file. A few years later I wanted to again inspect the > paper as the handwriting was blurred on the copy we'd made earlier. > But I could not find the original document! I know it was there as > we'd personally read it, copied it and returned it to the file > jacket. (#1 file jacket for the County containing the earliest > records). > > After our court house visit we had to return to our home a few states > away. I received an inquiry from someone who said they were also > researching the same family name and she sent a 3 x 5" card with > documentation about the family, asking that I return it to her after > we read it. She named all the children of the deceased even to the > misspelling of the names which appeared on the Will. I recognized > the card as one very similar to the ones filed in the genealogy > society in the town where our ancestor died. I made a copy of the > original card and returned it to the sender, but on our next trip to > the genealogy library I asked the librarian about the card and showed > her the copy of one we'd made. She told me it had been in their > files.....that theirs turned up missing. > > I cannot prove my assumptions but I feel certain the same person not > only took possession of the original Will from the court house but > also the genealogy society's card file. It angered me to think > people would do such a thing but I've heard it became a common > practice and many court houses and libraries have had to restrict > access to a lot of their records. One lady in the county clerk's > office in Kentucky showed me a large old book of early marriages she > had to keep in her desk drawer just because several people had tried > to smuggle it out of the court house! > > No doubt many of the old records have disappeared taken by selfish > people which has deprived us of valuable information. Even pages > from books have been cut out. > > juanita > > >> As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those who >> have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. >> >> Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look >> something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who are >> not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a >> genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't think >> that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was fair >> game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily newspaper on >> Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, in Perry >> Township. >> >> Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help >> people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted >> something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the >> Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since >> last summer. >> >> Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have >> been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard >> Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have >> used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were >> very informational are gone. >> >> I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but >> they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would >> someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They were >> old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected from >> reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there when >> it happened. >> >> I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would please >> uncountless people. >> >> Just had to get that off my chest. >> >> Cheryl > > ______________________________

What a wonderful story! Thanks for sharing. Pat On Mar 29, 2005, at 10:52 AM, Jokagal@aol.com wrote: > THis lady was not a famous Gallia County resident, but she certainly > was > reknowned in our family. Her name was Vausie Northup born Feb. 17, > 1875 in > Gallia County to Ansel Northup and Lavina McCall, their youngest > child. Always > strong willed and determined, she was not about to spend her days on a > farm > getting up at the crack of dawn to care for a family. She wanted > adventure and > a very different life. At a young age, probably after completing > school, > she left Ohio for Los Angeles where she worked as a secretary. She > married > Frank Smith who was involved somehow in the movie industry. They > lived rather > well in a large home in L.A.. He died sometime in the 1950's and she > died in > Jan. 1971 at the age of 95. She still lived a luxurious life and was > sharp > mentally until the end. She and my mother, her grand neice, > corresponded > until her death. I gather that Vausie was known as the black sheep > of the family > as Los Angeles was not a place for a young girl from rural Ohio. My > mother > (still alive) adored her and her strongmindedness and often told > stories of > "Aunt Vausie". > > Joanne Galvin > > Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, > Berrridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert > > > > ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== > Please remember that your topic must relate to genealogical research > in Gallia County, Ohio. >

Ok, I know where you are talking about. That is where the old ice plant used to be. My son lives 2 doors up from the gravel parking lot. I was told today by someone very knowledgable that the lots were suppose to be for gardening only but later people built on them. Some of them had to be petitioned to the city government before they could be released and built on. Now the house my son lives on has a steep bank, I have never been down to the water's edge, of course now would be a whole lot of difference than then when the river and its edge was farther out. I will keep my ear's open and eye's looking for information on the garden lots, but I can remember my father saying that some people owned from their house on the other side of first ave to river which would include the garden lot. Cheryl Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

THis lady was not a famous Gallia County resident, but she certainly was reknowned in our family. Her name was Vausie Northup born Feb. 17, 1875 in Gallia County to Ansel Northup and Lavina McCall, their youngest child. Always strong willed and determined, she was not about to spend her days on a farm getting up at the crack of dawn to care for a family. She wanted adventure and a very different life. At a young age, probably after completing school, she left Ohio for Los Angeles where she worked as a secretary. She married Frank Smith who was involved somehow in the movie industry. They lived rather well in a large home in L.A.. He died sometime in the 1950's and she died in Jan. 1971 at the age of 95. She still lived a luxurious life and was sharp mentally until the end. She and my mother, her grand neice, corresponded until her death. I gather that Vausie was known as the black sheep of the family as Los Angeles was not a place for a young girl from rural Ohio. My mother (still alive) adored her and her strongmindedness and often told stories of "Aunt Vausie". Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berrridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert

According to my records, Ann Elizabeth Northup (known as Elizabeth) was the daughter of Henry Clay Northup and Charlotte Gilbert Northup. She married Joe (Josiah) McCall. Her siblings were Gilbert, Cirenna, Theodore (who made and sold brooms in Gallipolis), Margaret, and George. Henry Clay Northup was the son of Thomas Northup (Son of Daniel Northup and Anna Hampton Collins Northup) and Anna Margaret Syler. There was a lot of intermarriage between the McCalls and Northups. Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berrridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert

I wonder if the seller could be prosecuted... Just a thought. - Jean -----Original Message----- From: Connie Hitchings [mailto:conniehitchings@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 1:14 PM To: OHGALLIA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHGALLIA-L] Files Missing I was told that some people have started to steal these kind of items to sell on E Bay! This is happening all over the country. Everything had better be copied as soon as you get it in your hands. There is no guarantee that it will still be there the next trip back. Connie >I might relate an incident that I know about. While researching court >house files for the middle 1800's, we found the Will of an ancestor >who died in 1863. We made a copy of the paper and returned it to the >case file. A few years later I wanted to again inspect the paper as >the handwriting was blurred on the copy we'd made earlier. But I could >not find the original document! I know it was there as we'd >personally read it, copied it and returned it to the file jacket. (#1 >file jacket for the County containing the earliest records). > > After our court house visit we had to return to our home a few states > away. I received an inquiry from someone who said they were also > researching the same family name and she sent a 3 x 5" card with > documentation about the family, asking that I return it to her after > we read it. She named all the children of the deceased even to the > misspelling of the names which appeared on the Will. I recognized the > card as one very similar to the ones filed in the genealogy society in > the town where our ancestor died. I made a copy of the original card > and returned it to the sender, but on our next trip to the genealogy > library I asked the librarian about the card and showed her the copy > of one we'd made. She told me it had been in their files.....that > theirs turned up missing. > > I cannot prove my assumptions but I feel certain the same person not > only took possession of the original Will from the court house but > also the genealogy society's card file. It angered me to think people > would do such a thing but I've heard it became a common practice and > many court houses and libraries have had to restrict access to a lot > of their records. One lady in the county clerk's office in Kentucky > showed me a large old book of early marriages she had to keep in her > desk drawer just because several people had tried to smuggle it out of > the court house! > > No doubt many of the old records have disappeared taken by selfish > people which has deprived us of valuable information. Even pages from > books have been cut out. > > juanita > > >> As you all know, I do alot of lookups for people, especially those >> who have become really good email buddies, and you know who you are. >> >> Last night I was at the library doing my thing. I wanted to look >> something up in the Anne Simmerman files. Now for those of you who >> are not familiar with this I will explain. Anne Simmerman was a >> genealogist and did an awful lot of it for other people. I don't >> think that the dear lady every threw anything away, and any paper was >> fair game for writing on. She also wrote a column in the daily >> newspaper on Patriot, an area of great importance to alot of people, >> in Perry Township. >> >> Back to my story, I have been for a very long time trying to help >> people researching the Carters,Ripleys, Allisons and Prose. I wanted >> something out of the Allison file. Well they are gone along with the >> Ripleys, Prose and Carters that have been missing , one by one, since >> last summer. >> >> Now, like I said these files are on all sorts of families, and have >> been added to along the years after they were given to the Bossard >> Library.This collection is housed in a four drawer cabinet. I have >> used them, lots of people have used them. Now these files that were >> very informational are gone. >> >> I can't believe that someone would take these files on purpose but >> they are gone , one whole set of a intermingled family ... Why would >> someone take files when there is a copier in the next room? They >> were old and fragile but yet useable. Valuable information collected >> from reliable sources, people who remembered because they were there >> when it happened. >> >> I just wish who ever took them would bring them back. It would >> please uncountless people. >> >> Just had to get that off my chest. >> >> Cheryl > > ______________________________ ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== For those of you on Digest mode, please don't quote the entire digest when replying. Also, check your subject line; making it meaningful will increase your chances of being read.

What a great Tribute to Aunt Vausie, Thank you for sharing that. We were in hopes that other people would share their strong , pioneer spirited women, and you just did. Cheryl Jokagal@aol.com wrote: THis lady was not a famous Gallia County resident, but she certainly was reknowned in our family. Her name was Vausie Northup born Feb. 17, 1875 in Gallia County to Ansel Northup and Lavina McCall, their youngest child. Always strong willed and determined, she was not about to spend her days on a farm getting up at the crack of dawn to care for a family. She wanted adventure and a very different life. At a young age, probably after completing school, she left Ohio for Los Angeles where she worked as a secretary. She married Frank Smith who was involved somehow in the movie industry. They lived rather well in a large home in L.A.. He died sometime in the 1950's and she died in Jan. 1971 at the age of 95. She still lived a luxurious life and was sharp mentally until the end. She and my mother, her grand neice, corresponded until her death. I gather that Vausie was known as the black sheep of the family as Los Angeles was not a place for a young girl from rural Ohio. My mother (still alive) adored her and her strongmindedness and often told stories of "Aunt Vausie". Joanne Galvin Researching Northup, Hampton, McCall, Phelps, Blake, Daggett, Syler, Berrridge,Plymale, Kinder, Cottrell, Gilbert ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Please remember that your topic must relate to genealogical research in Gallia County, Ohio. Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

I have the plot map for the garden lots, It isn't very plain but if blown up on a copier it does come out a little big and plainer. I can email the scan if you want. Cheryl NEILEL@aol.com wrote:A friend tells me that garden lots were close to the river and not to be > built on. Henny I too am interested in those garden lots. My great-grandmother, Malinda Wise, bought one of them after her husband died. She lived on a farm with her nine children in Clay Township about 5-6 miles south of Gallipolis. I wondered if they were used commercially to grow and sell produce. She eventually had the property seized in a lawsuit to a Maria Long. Neil E. Folsom, CA ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. Be Well, Do Good Work , Keep In Touch --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

In a message dated 3/29/2005 9:51:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, lindatrent@zoomnet.net writes: Hi Neil, I believe you're referring to Jenkins raid on Point Pleasant. I put on the Struggle for Statehood event held in Cabell County last year, and we used newspaper accounts to document our activities. The following site has several accounts of the Battle of Point Pleasant from the Gallipolis Journal. http://struggleforstatehood.homestead.com/ORS.html Linda Trent lindatrent@zoomnet.net > Sometime in the past I read an account of a river boat clash during the > Civil War in which some Gallia County men who were not in the army or navy > were > recruited on an emergency basis for a skirmish on the Kanawha River in > West > Virginia. I believe it was in about April of 1863. Does anyone know of > any > written accounts? I no longer recall where I originally read it, but I > wonder > if there were newspapers reports from that time, and if they would > contain > the names or those who participated. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. Linda, Thanks so much for the prompt reply. The web site is exactly what I was looking for. Neil

Doris , I'm not sure who you are directing the query to , but I have info on mostly FRAZIERS in Mason County WV , Fraziers Bottom . one of the sons chose FRAZER , Ernie WRIGHT DSpeck1926@aol.com wrote: Just what Fraziers/Frashers are you looking for? I have a little bit on both spellings. Doris. ==== OHGALLIA Mailing List ==== Check the address you are replying to before sending your message. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

Hi Neil, I believe you're referring to Jenkins raid on Point Pleasant. I put on the Struggle for Statehood event held in Cabell County last year, and we used newspaper accounts to document our activities. The following site has several accounts of the Battle of Point Pleasant from the Gallipolis Journal. http://struggleforstatehood.homestead.com/ORS.html Linda Trent lindatrent@zoomnet.net > Sometime in the past I read an account of a river boat clash during the > Civil War in which some Gallia County men who were not in the army or navy > were > recruited on an emergency basis for a skirmish on the Kanawha River in > West > Virginia. I believe it was in about April of 1863. Does anyone know of > any > written accounts? I no longer recall where I originally read it, but I > wonder > if there were newspapers reports from that time, and if they would > contain > the names or those who participated.