This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RobertJerin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.ohio.counties.franklin/15388.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joso is not John... Joso would be a diminutive of Josip English Josef. Here is John ZUBOVIC Name: Giovanni Zubovic Arrival Date: 24 Jun 1913 Birth Year: abt 1884 Birth Location Other: Barbat Former Residence Barbat, next of kin his wife Luce Age: 29 Gender: Male Race­: Dalmation Port of Departure: Trieste Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Carpathia Destination to his newphew Sime (sounds like shemay Simon in English) ZUBOVIC at He was travleing with Vicko (veechkoh, Vincent) and Marko ZUBOVIC all were from Barbat 2015 Parsons Ave Cols. OH The root (no pun intended) of ZUBOVIC is the word zub, which means... tooth... OVIC ending means son of. Looking at Lucia's (lootseeah) manifest she was born at Pag and the children at Barbat. Lucia (Lucy in English) must have been from Pag town, while her husband and children were from across the bay at Barbat, but still on the Island of Pag I believe that Barbat has been renamed and is now called Zubovici.... Otok Pag (Island Pag) is known for a delicous ewe's milk cheese, evaporative salt collection (which was fought over in ancient times) and Paski Cipka (Pag Lace) which is believed to be descended from Venetian Lace http://pag-tourism.hr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66&Itemid=93&lang=en Oh and mentioning Venice... Pag and much of the coast was ruled by Venice for a few centuries... thus the Italian influence in the given name ... Giovani... Marco POLO is thought (at least by Croatians) to have come from the Island of Korcula... where the current phone listings show many Di Polo families. When we had our Heritage Group in Venice we visited the old Dalmatian (sailors) building where we saw many Italianized Croatian surnames and given names. The manifests indicate they filed for US Citizenship in the 1930s (it is the cryptic writing over the occupation column) http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/occ/ I have taken my Heritage Tour groups to several Islands including Pag in 1999 Robert Jerin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.