This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/2777.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have such a list of students and faculty members from the Worthington Reformed Medical College. That is how I was able to determine who his preceptor was. As for my allegations of Beach being vile,corrupt and evil I will attempt to substantiate my claims. As you correctly stated the Worthington Medical College was shut down due the arrest of the Franklin County Sheriff catching the body snatchers red handed. The school as you know simply moved to Cincinnati where is became the Cincinnati Eclectic Medical College. For the most part the same faculty and professors. The worst riot in Ohio history happened as a direct result of this college and the stealing of bodies. To me Homeopathic and Eclectic are just two words for alternative medicine. You are well aware that medicine in the early and mid 19th century was a fairly easy degree to obtain. By your own admission "That he may have obtained bodies for medical study would not be surprising (many medical students did so)" I think it is safe to say that anyone engaging in body snatching would be considered HIGHLY DISAGREEABLE and that is but one of the meanings of the word vile. And I contend that body snatching to the general public was indeed HIGHLY DISAGREEABLE. Because there was an Ohio State law ie 1841 "66.Sect. XIX. That if any person shall wantonly dig or take up any corpse or dead human body, buried or entombed in any cemetery or burying ground, either public or private, or shall attempt, so to do; or shall carry away from such cemetery or burying ground, any such corpse or dead body; or shall aid, assist, or be any way concerned, either in the attempt, or in digging or taking up, or in carrying away such corpse or dead body, as aforesaid; every person offending, in either of the aforesaid instances, shall, upon conviction thereof, be finded in any sum not exceeding one thousand dollars, or be imprisoned in the cell or dungeon of the county jail, and fed on bread and water only, not exceeding thirty days, or both, at the discretion of the court." Beach knowing violated this Ohio Law and in doing so fits the defination of corrupt. As for the word evil according to the dictionary it is "morally bad or wrong" If digging up someones loved one without permission and using it for dissection let alone being sold, is NOT morally bad or wrong I don't know what to tell you? Beach was indeed vile, corrupt and evil in every sense of the words. To say that "well it was just the way medicine was in the 19th century" would be to say that "well that is just the way Nazi Germany was in the 20th century ie killing of Jews. I find both of them equally replusive sir. I cannot understand you trying to justify Beach's vile,evil and corrupt ways. I would also remind you that NOT all medical schools used human cadavers in the 19th century however I will grant you that it was a common crime sadly to say. Almost all of the body snatchers would go on to become respected citizens however if their deeds were reported I wonder how highly thought of they would become? Under normal circumstances I would be more than happy to help you find your families genealogy. I would be willing to share what I have. However, your ancestor in my opinion helped destroy families and caused many heart aches to fellow citizens of the community. Perhaps the Good Lord has already dealt with this issue and Beach. However, if you are willing to donate all of your books entire proceeds to Ohio cemeteries that your ancestor helped to destroy in the name of medicine than I will be happy to release my information to you and I think you will be amazed of Beach's records and I happen to also have a diary that mentions his name in connection with the medical college. If this is agreeable to you than have an attorney draw up the paper work. If you will help right a wrong that has been committed in the name of science and history we will have a deal. But I don't think you will be agreeable to this as the same blood that went through Beach's veins, also flows through yours. I feel as though you are a TAKER and NOT a GIVER just as your ancestor was.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Beach Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/2777.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Mr. Brooke: I had almost forgotten about this old inquiry of mine, until I just saw your response this morning. I must say I was quite taken aback. As Dr. Beach's biographer (book due out in the first quarter of next year), I would ask you "in the name of science" please to present evidence of your allegations. "Vile and corrupt evil man" is an awfully strong judgment--With what evidence do you make such a judgment? This judgment does not fit with any of the known facts of the man (and testimonies from those who knew him). I am genuinely curious and you will find that I have an open mind on the matter. It is known to history that the Worthington Medical College (Eclectic medicine, NOT Homeopathy) was finally attacked by a "mob" who did not like the school's procurement of cadavers for anatomical study (the state of Ohio expected physicians to work with the anatomy of live people, but provided no way for study with cadavers--as is done today in all major medical schools)--and they ! ultimately persuaded the state to revoke the school's charter. Dr. Beach evidently studied with some of the professors post-charter--I have circumstantial evidence of this along with Dr. Beach's published testimony. That he may have obtained bodies for medical study would not be surprising (many medical students did so). Of course this was (is?) a touchy matter . . . and the phenomenon of "body snatching" ran the full spectrum, from outright desecration to the legitimate needs of medical and surgical practice. Do you have evidence that Dr. Beach was personally involved in the procurement of cadavers?--and you mention that you have knowledge of his preceptor--if so I ask you please to cite your information and its source. Mr. Brooke, is it your personal judgment on these past occurrences that you express? If so, I respect your right to express your views and judgments of history, but if more than your personal judgments on your reading of history, please share your sta! ted knowledge of Dr. Beach with me (I will also send this message to y our personal e-mail, so that you can respond in private if you prefer). As his biographer, I do wish to learn what special knowledge you may possess, while respecting your currently expressed feelings on this matter that occurred so long ago.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sanders, Gecovus, Miller, Evans Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/15187 Message Board Post: DAVID BENJAMIN SANDERS was born May 6, 1874 in Gnadenhutten, Tusc. Co., OH, and died aft. 1930. He married SARAH E. GECOVUS MILLER abt. 1906, daughter of WILLIAM GECOVUS and NANCY J. She was born abt. 1887, and died aft. 1930 in Truro/Columbus, Franklin Co., OH. Children: 1. (STEPSON) WILLIAM L. MILLER, b. abt. 1906, Columbus, OH. 2. EDWARD BENJAMIN SANDERS, b. June 9, 1907, Columbus, Franklin Co., OH; d. October 29, 1993, Nursing Home, Columbus, OH; m. NONE. 3. BERTHA LILLIAN SANDERS, b. abt. 1909, Columbus, Franklin Co., OH.. 4. ELIZABETH JUNE SANDERS, b. February 24, 1914, Columbus, OH; d. February 17, 1996, Hospital, Columbus, OH; m. EVANS; d. bef. February 17, 1996, Columbus, OH. 5. CLARA MAY SANDERS, b. abt. 1915. 6. JOHN H. SANDERS, b. abt. 1918 (possibility: Jan. 13, 1918-Oct 1974, Columbus, OH). 7. HAZEL M. SANDERS, b. abt. 1922, Columbus/Truro. 8. DORIS E. SANDERS, b. abt. 1925, Columbus/Truro. 9. JAMES A. SANDERS, b. abt. 1928, Columbus/Truro (possibility: Nov. 25, 1927-March 17, 2003, Columbus, OH. I would love to hear from descendants of this family. Melissa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/14112.3.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Leona. I will check out your web site and look at the pictures. My ancestor survived the prison and died many years later so I won't need the pictures but I do appreciate your reply.

I'm trying to find wallace merle stephens (dob. 1920-21) mothers name Stella Peel, Boone.,co.Ky. thank you clara

Jim Who is the contact person for St Joe's Thanks Joe -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of jbrenna@columbus.rr.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 6:20 PM To: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHFranklin] Re: Kattie Held Wilson This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15186.2 Message Board Post: Kathy I think the records for Mt. Calvary Cemetery are also at St. Joseph's cemetery. You can e-mail them at: ccocrfinn@aol.com They have been very helpful to me. Jim ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== Franklin County, Ohio OHGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/

As far as the Held's in Delaware, they are buried in St Marys Cemetery next to Oak Grove http://www.delawareohio.us/Cemetery/og/oak_grove_cem.html All of my Held's that were Catholic were buried in Mt Calvary then later St Josephs. Joe -----Original Message----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com [mailto:gc-gateway@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of kaffe03@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 5:06 PM To: OHFRANKL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHFranklin] Kattie Held Wilson This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Held, Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15186 Message Board Post: My great grandmother, Kattie Held Wilson, died Oct 19, 1884 and was buried Nov 3, 1884 in the Catholic Cemetery in Columbus Ohio, per the family bible. My gr-grandfather and his 2nd wife are buried in Delaware, Ohio along with my grandmother (nee Wilson) and paternal grandfather. What Catholic cemetery would I be looking for to find my gr grandmother? I'm assuming it would have been in the northern part of Franklin County. ==== OHFRANKL Mailing List ==== Franklin County, Ohio OHGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfrankl/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15186.2 Message Board Post: Kathy I think the records for Mt. Calvary Cemetery are also at St. Joseph's cemetery. You can e-mail them at: ccocrfinn@aol.com They have been very helpful to me. Jim

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15186.1 Message Board Post: The most likely Catholic cemetery for your g-grandmother to have been buried in is Mt. Calvary (established 1865). The records have been filmed by the Franklin County Genealogical & Historical Society and can be viewed at their library (see http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohfcghs/). Also, the records should be available at: Catholic Cemeteries of Columbus 9571 North High Street Columbus, OH 43085 Phone: (614) 888-1805 They should be able to give you the section and lot number of her grave. Happy hunting! Leona L. Gustafson GenealogyBug@gustafson.net ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Ohio American Local History Network (ALHN) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/ohio_alhn/ohio.htm Franklin County, Ohio ALHN http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/franklin_county/franklin.htm Franklin County, Ohio Gravestone Photos &Etc. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/Franklin_Cemeteries/index.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Held, Wilson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15186 Message Board Post: My great grandmother, Kattie Held Wilson, died Oct 19, 1884 and was buried Nov 3, 1884 in the Catholic Cemetery in Columbus Ohio, per the family bible. My gr-grandfather and his 2nd wife are buried in Delaware, Ohio along with my grandmother (nee Wilson) and paternal grandfather. What Catholic cemetery would I be looking for to find my gr grandmother? I'm assuming it would have been in the northern part of Franklin County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/14112.3 Message Board Post: All that is left of Camp Chase today is the cemetery. My husband, grandson, and I photographed the cemetery and all the gravestones. They are online at: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~rocky/Franklin_Cemeteries/chase/chase.html Please, contact me privately at GenealogyBug@gustafson.net if you would like to use any of the photographs in your memory album.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/14112.2 Message Board Post: Karen, I don't know if you have seen this website or not. But it has a link on it for some photos of camp chase as well as other info. Good luck. I hope this helps. http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/5109/ Tina

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roe, Dewett, DeWitt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/yYB.2ACI/15185 Message Board Post: Am seeking information on Wealthy DEWETT living in Columbus City Franklin Co., OH in 1920. Per the census she was living in Precinct A with a family named STOLL. She is shown as the aunt. Wealthy is my ggrandmother. Am seeking information on her and her relationship to the STOLL's. She was 68 in 1920, born in KY and had been married to a Harry DEWETT. She may be related to Cornelia Fillinger who is shown as the mother-in-law to Arlie STOLL. Her daughter was Grace Mae DeWITT ROE. Do you have any information you can share?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ellis/jones/griffiths Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/15184 Message Board Post: my father Glynne Ellis was from N Wales UK -he's deceased now. One of his father Caradoc's brothers went to the USA and became High Sherriff of Columbus Ohio -could be Mathew Henry, Thomas, Edward Ellis. Can anyone tell me which of these brothers was the Sherriff'? Thanks a lot. Pam Ellis

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/2777.1 Message Board Post: Yes, your Dr. David Beach was a body snatcher and attended the Worthington Medical College. Dr. Morrow as you probably well know was arrested for stealing bodies from the Franklin County grave-yards. I know a great deal more about Dr. Beach ie who his precetor was but because of his involvement with Homeopathy and the stealing of loved ones bodies from graves in the name of science I will NOT discuss NOR give out any information on this vile and corrupt evil man. And as you well know he is generally thought of as a highly respected citizen.

I've been getting things regularly on Franklin, but some of the items have taken 3 days or more to show up on other lists. So, it appears they still have some problems. Though a few days ago, I believe I saw a post that all had been correct. Sandy

I have not been getting the list - Are there still problems at Rootsweb? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

Hello, If you are speaking of the site www.NewspaperArchive.com, I spent 80 bucks for a year. With all the newspapers on there, I think its worth it. jamie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/yYB.2ACI/14112.1 Message Board Post: I have never seen one

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